Delph: We need to look in the mirror

Just read Silvas message for the Sheff Wed game. I think it confirms the poor man needs treatment

Wouldn't it be great rather than talk all this shit they just went out onto the pitch and gave us 100% a performance and a result

We need an identity.

For me that sums up this season. I believe that Marco is a decent manager who works extremely hard and prepares his players well for the most part. But something is not clicking. Is it that the squad is still a bit unbalanced? Is it confidence and belief? Is stubborness on the manager's part to try new systems/approaches? Is it that the players have been over-coached and need more freedom? Is it just luck?

Something has not clicked all season and it is the job of Marco and his team to work out what that is and fix it.

One fan on here said he would have given Delph a smack in the mouth for telling his fellow players they were playing like shit. I'd have had a good look at myself and played even harder thanI had been doing, just in case it was me.

Delph was urging them on as well as telling them they could do better, he is telling them the same thing now, they shouldn't need telling, some of them need the kick up the arse not Delph, definitely not Delph.

It wasn't much of an honour, the way the team played on Saturday, but Delph was my MOTM against Sheffield Unt.

It doesn't look like he's looking for excuses, especially because there are none, and hopefully he's the only player who talks about Saturday, with the rest already concentrating on a very important cup-tie tomorrow night.

I think the most important thing is playing to the strengths of the squad, but if Silva, doesn't trust Holgate, to partner Mina or Keane, then it's patently obvious he's got to play the three of them, because we just don't look good enough defensively.

Two holding midfielders, means we are not getting enough players into advanced positions, and although we will all have our own opinions, I'm sure we will all agree with Lyndon, when he wrote about the system, because it's just killing both the players and the team?

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Sidibe Holgate Mina Digne
Davies Iwobi Delph
Richarlison DCL Bernard

This lot are our best bet for a bit of passion and energy and has far more pace to it than saturdays team. They couldn't do much worse -could they??

Tim Cahill was on MOTD on Sat pointing out glaringly obvious inadequacies in our attacking approach where SU kept showing Everton out wide and our 3 forward players kept aligning themselves across the same 10 yards of the SU box, making it easy for SU to deal with the crosses. None of our players created any movement or looked to run into space, to stretch the SU defense. This is Attack 101!

I like Silva, but how could he not see that.

They need to spend big in Jan to by a proven goal scorer; until then play Richarlison down the middle, who is the only one with a goal in him.

Considering Seamus is Captain, he has been very quiet in commenting/apologising for what the fans have been subjected to, which in all fairness he has done in the past.

I think he has made a few comments on Twitter which I don't subscribe to, but have picked up on from other news sources. Mind you some of those sources have pointed the finger at Seamus for lacking leadership on the pitch, and being complicit in the debacle.

I used to manage a Sunday league team, and after Walcott came on for Coleman, I shouted to a lad I knew that I couldn't have made those subs, even if I was still managing on a Sunday morning.

Too clever for his own good, because it wasn't a fucking coaching session, it was a EPL game, and if you don't know your own players, you are finished at trying to be a successful manager, at any level?

He's not saying that, he's saying that they played shite and need to get a grip of their own performances.

There's a clip of Roy Keane talking on Sky which sums it all up for me, he said that he didn't need the manager to tell him he was playing shite and to pull his socks up, he would know and try harder.

The players get away with this too easily, the manager has a finite number of players he trust to play and if they are playing shite, what's he to do?

Take them off and use an inferior player? That would weaken the side, the player himself should get a fucking grip and play the way he's should be able to.

Managers fault for the team selection and tactics, players fault for being a shithouse in the tackle, not passing the ball to their own men and scuffing shots into row z.

50/50 between manager and players, but Silva is the scapegoat here when the multi-millionaires on the pitch playing like fucking toddlers are smiling and laughing when coming off the pitch and getting into their Bentleys to go home to the model missus.

I was made up when I saw Delph shouting, "You're all fucking shite", someone needs to tell them.

I agree with post #12 Dave's selection for tomorrow, except maybe for dropping Pickford (Based on Saturday's form it may well go to penalties if we are lucky). I'd also have a couple of our youngsters on the bench along with Kean and Sigurdsson. Schneiderlin and Walcott can stay at home and watch it on the telly.

On the other current thread there's a quote from Silva telling the players "to be Everton". That reminds me of an episode when Martinez was "found out" by the players and went public saying they, not him, had decided to revert to "the old Everton way" and duly went on a winning streak.

I just wonder whether Silva might adjust his tactics rather than spawn a mutiny among the "precious" non-achievers happy to populate our squad?

At the other end of the spectrum you have the reaction of “so and so will never play for me again”. But surely the middle ground is identifying the worst problem areas, change a few faces and tweak the tactics?

One of the things I noticed is that when Coleman went off, it was difficult for him to get the armband to Gylfi. I think everyone but Gylfi knew Coleman was going to give him the armband. Gylfi had his back to Coleman. He should have come to him to take it, he should have wanted it, and he should have been acting like the captain before he got the armband. He is one of the leaders of this side. Another quiet individual who prefers to let his feet do the talking. They weren't talking on Saturday, and we needed more vocal leadership.

We really only have Siggy and Richy who could realistically get to double figure for the season and they have both started poorly.

Our possession and passing is good but our finishing and defending is woeful.

Last seasons success came from solid defending and hitting teams on the break but it looks like this season Silva got too confident and thought we could become City before we could walk.

Confidence has now been sapped and yet again we find Silva leaves us wanting in his ability to motivate the players.

That could be read in an awful lot of ways.

Broadly agree with your team except in defence. Yes, there is a case to be made for dropping the guys you left out. But, I think part of the issue we have is the understanding between the two CBs and the goalie. My worry is if we change too many people it leaves us with a group of players who aren't familiar with one another and may exacerbate things. I'd keep Pickford, and either add Holgate as a third CB or replace one of the regulars with him. Sidibe at RB shouldn't disrupt things as much coming in for Coleman so I agree on him. Further up field, totally agree except I may play Rich out left as it's his best role. That creates a problem for me on the right as it would compel me to play Walcott, but hopefully Rich out left, and Iwobi in the center can make up for his lack of involvement.

However, I suspect that this coach has now lost the confidence of his charges.

Players soon suss out a manager that confounds the majority of onlookers with his stubborn tactics and substitutions. They all know what is wrong.

I am not keen on Walcott but I would really like to see Richarlison out left and I am not sure who would be better on the right.

The worst thing about the Sheff Utd game was our lack of intensity. We only showed it for about three minutes after their first goal, and then three more minutes after the double substitution in the second half. We'll win nothing playing like that.

If Silva can't get the team to play, week-in & week-out, like we did in the derby last season at Goodison, then he should be relieved of his duties. If the players are incapable of playing like that, then they should be sold.

I thought the atmosphere was decent on Saturday, but it will go rapidly downhill if something doesn't change soon. I can't see Silva surviving into November if we carry on like this.

Deeds mate, deeds, not talkshite... I can get that on any Sky/media outlet.

By comparison, we have some very technically blessed players in the current squad but so many mentally weak-minded guys who melt under pressure.

Is it a generational thing?? Delph seems a man among boys at present. These quilts need to wake the fuck up and start fighting for the shirt the magnificent supporters and earn their ludicrous wages.

I'm not holding my breath...

Why is Kenwright the mouthpiece of EFC not losing his rag after yet another shite performance WHY is he not threatening the lot with being cleared out because he BLOODY WELL SHOULD BE.

A Fucken Men brother!!

Bravo bravo Fabian, a Captain in the making I can feel it. Please continue with your stocky walk and constructive feedback.

Empty vessels make the most noise so perhaps let your feet do the talking from now on - blag hard-man.

Evertonians have seen enough kidders over the years to spot one a mile off.