Silva not thinking about losing his job

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Marco Silva says that concerns over losing his job aren't on his mind as he prepares for the visit of West Ham this afternoon, a match he himself labelled as ”must-win”.

On a run of five defeats in six games, Silva's Everton could lose in the Premier League for a fifth consecutive game for the first time in 14 years if they succumb to the Hammers at Goodison Park and there is plenty of talk over whether that might move Farhad Moshiri and Marcel Brands to call time on the Portuguese's tenure as the Blues' boss.

While admitting that football is a results business, Silva insists that he isn't thinking in those terms and believes he retains the faith and support of the club's hierarchy.

“[Getting sacked] is not something that is ever in my mind because when I'm winning five or six games, I'm not thinking if I win I will renew the contract and get three years more," Silva said in The Telegraph.

"It is something that doesn't stay in my mind. A manager doesn't have to lose one second to even think in this situation. We have to go with, ‘we worked well during the week, we have planned everything well, tomorrow our players they will perform well playing in our stadium and we have to show togetherness to win a football match'. The other things I don't lose one second thinking about that.

"If you ask me my feeling from what comes from our owner or our football structure, I never had doubts about that.

"Of course we are talking about results and if you have a good project in football but don't win matches you don't forget it [the project]. It doesn't happen. Not just with Everton but any club in the world. We don't just look at that.

"They (the board) know what has happened in the last two months. We don't just look at the results, even if they are the main thing and you have to win games to support all of the project, the young players, all these things. We have to get the results. But about confidence, I never had doubts."

 

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Karl Masters
1 Posted 19/10/2019 at 06:36:30
It’s been a bad run since we beat Wolves, but there’s still 30 league games left. This team isn’t that bad, we just need to get going again.

West Ham are a potentially dangerous opponent, but so are we and we beat them easily in March on their own ground so there’s no reason why we can’t win today.

Neil Jones
2 Posted 19/10/2019 at 07:37:58
We have to win if we lose then its 5 on the trot we have not won and we will be stuck in the bottom 3 again Lets hope he puts a team out that does include 2 up front and Tom Davies in midfield with Gomes, Like Sliva said its a must win game COYB
Phil Sammon
3 Posted 19/10/2019 at 07:42:04
I know English is not his first language, but he’s talking in riddles here. This is comparable to Martinez in his final weeks. Talking without saying anything.
Andrew Laird
4 Posted 19/10/2019 at 07:52:28
The English language is not Marco’s friend.
Steve Croston
5 Posted 19/10/2019 at 08:02:16
What the fuck is he on about? Absolute tripe from one of the least inspiring managers in our entire history. Please just get rid of him and put ANYBODY ELSE in charge, it doesn't matter who because it will be an upgrade on this buffoon. It's not his fault, but for Christ's sake, his English is absolutely shocking and as a previous poster rightly said, reminds us all of a certain brown shoed manager who spoke in riddles. GET HIM OUT!!!!
John Keating
6 Posted 19/10/2019 at 08:02:54
He is delusional
He says they've worked well during the week, and planned everything. He says that every week. So why hasn't it worked for a season and a bit for the actual game?
As regards young players, well that's a joke. Why aren't we seeing the odd youngster on the bench in place of some of the deadwood. Just involving them would give them a massive boost.
Silva has put himself in the firing line. Getting a win today is imperative though it won't be an end to the doubts that remain.
Hopefully we get the points, God knows we need them, but it will be interesting to see what happens it we don't
Dave Ganley
7 Posted 19/10/2019 at 08:34:49
Anybody manager of Everton football club who loses 4 games on the trot, especially in the manner we have lost them should be worried. That's the problem with our club, no standards. Its not ok to lose games weekly like we have. It's not ok to have bad runs like this every season. No wonder we are not a top club. Can you imagine this being tolerated at top clubs? No me either. Ambition comes from the top and we have none. Yes silva turned it around d last season but it took the best part of 3 months and the season was dead. Is it going to take 3 months again?
How low can we go when we accept this kind of effortless mediocrity? The hierarchy need to make it perfectly clear that these types of runs are just not acceptable.
Brian Porter
8 Posted 19/10/2019 at 08:46:05
He bloody should be. Latest prediction based on the season statistics and published in the Express has us ending the season in 18th position!
Relegated if correct, and this joker isn't worried?
He's already been given too much time to do it right. Should have been sacked immediately after the Burnley defeat, or should I say debacle?
He's been a failure in both of his previous Premier League positions, yet Farhad head hunted him, chased him for 9 months, ended up having to pay compensation to Watford and all for this!
Instead of taking advantage of the easiest set of opening fixtures in living memory, Marco bleeding Silva has us in the relegation zone with the real tough fixtures about to hit us.

If Silva's left in charge I can seriously see us propping the league up by the end of December. What a New Year to look forward to eh?

Tony Everan
9 Posted 19/10/2019 at 08:46:29
Of course it is on his mind. He is just deflecting the question. Today's game is do or die for Marco, he knows it.

No premier league manager of any team, let alone one with a top 6-8 level squad will be retained with 5 straight losses. With four of them against teams that finished bellow us last season, including two championship teams.

Moshiri will arrest the slide into oblivion and Silva wil be sacked with 24 hrs.

It's all on the line today, win and he buys himself time to prove himself lose and it's over. The worse possible outcome for Evertonians would be the draw, which may lead to dithering and not switching off the life support machine on a completely hopeless case.

Paul Tran
10 Posted 19/10/2019 at 08:49:33
Interesting piece by Paul Joyce in today's Times. States that some players 'say training can be overly long, stretching to two hours, and, at times, is not done at high intensity.'

He also states these views are not shared by everyone and, rightly, that they reflect badly on the players.

Sounds to me like a continuation of the past few years rather than the fresh start I was hoping for.

I'm getting tired of managers talking about pace, pressing and intensity, then producing the opposite. I hope a corner is turned by manager and players today. If not, I hope a corner is turned by Moshiri and Brands today.

Dave Lynch
11 Posted 19/10/2019 at 08:50:51
He might not be but nearly every Evertonian I know is thinking it.

Surely a poor performance today and it's the Spanish archer for him.

Jerome Shields
12 Posted 19/10/2019 at 08:57:48
I remember Howard Kendall when he took over a young, with great potential Man City, say that it was alright having potential, but it was more important to perform to a sufficient level to win games.

Silva may be about to learn this. Do not like the underlying trend of this press conference.

Hugh Jenkins
13 Posted 19/10/2019 at 09:05:44
Paul (10) - It's a shame we don't know which players are complaining as I suspect it will be the same names that most of us would automatically think of.
Is Silva's potential demise yet another demonstration of "player power" in Everton's first team dressing room?
We know how toxic this has been in the past and only Unsy had the "balls" to try and establish his authority by sending Mirallas and Schneiderlin home.

If, as I suspect, Schneiderlin is one of the moaning ring leaders, this might be one of the reasons he is picked every week (to everyones astonishment), as Silva can't leave him out because of the trouble he causes in the changing room?

Speculation on my part, but it would explain a lot.

Trevor Peers
14 Posted 19/10/2019 at 09:06:37
It sounds like Silva is still not under any real threat of being sacked. The way he's talking the casual acceptance of defeats as part of the project is indicative of the slipshod, careless way the club is being run.
The fact that there has been no public pronouncements is another sign that the alarm bells aren't ringing at the highest level.
When will they learn with this guy, his hallmark is the ' 10 match losing streak ' which his teams always go on each season, even if we win today the losing run is likely to reappear it's in his DNA.
Gary Fenton
15 Posted 19/10/2019 at 09:09:19
He says the follow "‘we worked well during the week, we have planned everything well" with what players most have been away on International duty. Did he not notice they were missing. Even a win today should not save him.
Martin Nicholls
16 Posted 19/10/2019 at 09:14:35
Anyone who was at Burnley will know he has lost the fans - the way the players perform suggests he's lost them too. Should have gone two weeks ago.
Gary Carter
17 Posted 19/10/2019 at 09:15:37
Schneiderlin is getting picked because Silva has to because of the trouble he causes in the dressing room ?!?!?!
Does someone actually really believe that ?!
And more to the point, if that is true Silva should be sacked immediately for not being strong enough to manage ! It’s not like schneiderlin is Messi and essential to us !!
Charles Brewer
18 Posted 19/10/2019 at 09:17:51
Who cares? This man is a hopeless manager and it’s not worth following this team until he goes. As Gobber Carragher says in today’s Telegraph the difference between ManUtd and the RS is Klopp.

With a good manager Everton would have been 3rd or 4th with their opennng series of matches. Instead they are 18th.

Ray Roche
19 Posted 19/10/2019 at 09:22:29
“We don’t just look at the results “.
Well what do they look at? Because the football we’re playing is dreadful and, along with the results which WE look at, this ain’t going to end well for Marco.
How long before he’s talking about “seagulls following trawlers”?
Ciarán McGlone
20 Posted 19/10/2019 at 09:24:10
This manager has brought me to a point where I hope we lose today.

Treasonous? Of course - and I'll take the brickbats for it.

But after 35 years of supporting this club.. that's where I am. Incompetent management facilitated by incompetent stewardship. A plague on all of their houses.

Derek Knox
21 Posted 19/10/2019 at 09:26:40
I have never been inspired by anything that Silva has said, and today is no different, maybe he isn't worried if he gets the boot, he will have no worries with all the compensations he has accumulated over the years.

I can never understand with his track record, why they even considered a three year contract, it defies belief really, especially after the previous situations with Martinez, Koeman and Allardyce.

Derek Thomas
22 Posted 19/10/2019 at 09:43:05
Lets face he should've gone after Millwall capitulation. Then he got 'lucky' with his 17 day Kevin Brock moment, allowing him and his staff to work on stuff...which, despite cock ups at Newcastle and Fulham, seemed to (maybe) show he'd turn the corner.

Does the first 8 games show he still has what it takes, or he doesn't.

Doesn't is my pick...can't be havin with a manager who goes on losing streaks, nobody wins every game - but in this season where the top 6 is actually just a top 2, its just not good enough.

Sean Kelly
23 Posted 19/10/2019 at 09:46:07
He should be worried but he doesn’t give a Portuguese flying f..k as he knows he going to be richly compensated for failure.
Win against whu is a must for the club not him. GET RID after the game.
Pat Kelly
24 Posted 19/10/2019 at 09:53:31
What exactly is the "project" he's talking about ? The only project now is to stabilise and avoid relegation. He's demolishing this Club, not building it for the future.
Mike Kehoe
25 Posted 19/10/2019 at 09:57:40
I used to get upset watching Everton, get angry at stupid dumb arsed managers talking about phenomenal moments despite observing ignorance in action; or the pedestrian, couldn't possibly be arsed football with the likes of Schneiderlin strolling about without a care in the world, an apparently contagious apathy obvious to everybody with eyes to see but hidden magically from a succession of [mis]managers. I would get really annoyed when my comical red colleagues would make a beeline for me on a Monday, despite not going to a game since the days of King Kenny, asking what is happening at ‘your’ club, as if I am personally responsible for strategy (?!?) and picking the team, before giving me chapter and verse on another impressive RS victory and the genius of the toothsome one.
It is really very hard to take at present and I don’t see things changing any time soon: today will be more of the same, 4-2-3-1 with like for like substitutions when it doesn’t work, Schneiderlin starting with all the verve and energy of spent teabag, DCL being criticised for having the audacity of being starved of any service and his lazy reluctance of still not being Diego Costa and then Marco looking all crestfallen and betrayed as his defenders fail to follow his detailed instructions (delivered in Latin, of course) at corners. Yarmelenko will score, maybe unmarked from a corner, because he isn’t really a goal threat, Noble will convert a penalty and RS will twat Man U tomorrow and Monday will be an absolute delight.
I used to get upset with all the above but now I am heavily into heroin and I just don’t give a fuck anymore: I wonder if Marco has the same approach, sounds like it.
Anthony Murphy
26 Posted 19/10/2019 at 10:00:23
We need to appoint a manager that everyone connected with the club will sit up and take notice of. We need a driving force to drag the club and everyone connected up to their own high standard.

I might be alone here, but I do have concerns about the influence of Brands on a future appointment. I think he’ll want another young, up and coming manager who he can mould/control and right now I think we need a big personality with a track record of winning. I’m just not convinced this is the type of manager Brands will go for.

Len Hawkins
27 Posted 19/10/2019 at 10:02:00
I am shocked TWO hours training? no wonder these pampered clowns can't cut the mustard. Clough, Shankly, Catterick where are your modern day counterparts? let them finish training when they are fit and able to carry out the requirements to make the team successful.
Dave Lynch
28 Posted 19/10/2019 at 10:21:04
Derek@22.
"That Fulham game".
That sums him up perfectly, that's the level we are now at.
Ian Lloyd
29 Posted 19/10/2019 at 10:22:56
Ciaran - 20

Exactly how I feel – fellow supporter for 36 years and Blue until I die but this buffoon is draining the life out of me.

Even if we scrape a win today, I still want him gone. As a previous poster said, anyone and I mean anyone would be an improvement on this joke.

Ian Lloyd
30 Posted 19/10/2019 at 10:34:48
Please... just go!
Clive Rogers
31 Posted 19/10/2019 at 10:39:42
He seems to attach great importance to how players perform in training, but ultimately it is on the pitch that matters. Several of our players are not performing there and they and the formation need to be changed.
Kim Vivian
32 Posted 19/10/2019 at 10:49:26
Haven't read the comments yet so probably been said - but he bloody well should be.

It's not so much the poor results to date but who they have been against. The next few weeks are potentially going to be painful for us lot under Silva.

Alan J Thompson
33 Posted 19/10/2019 at 10:51:04
Heaven forbid we should have a manager who thinks the future or results matter while trying to work out which numbers come where when the team is picked. Do we expect something out of the box to turn it all around? I know where my money would go.
Andrew Keatley
34 Posted 19/10/2019 at 10:51:22
The headline to the article might as well read “Silva Not Thinking...” and just left it at that.

I, meanwhile, am thinking about him losing his job. If we do not show serious improvements today - and if Silva sets us up as he usually does then I cannot see a comfortable afternoon for anyone other than West Ham - then I hope he is gone by the time Goodison has emptied. He’s had significant time, and money, and opportunity, and despite that he’s not moved us forward. Time for us to bring in someone with some positive energy.

Derek Taylor
35 Posted 19/10/2019 at 10:51:34
I know I am a lone voice but I don't feel the much vaunted Director of Football has covered himself in glory since his appointment. If Silva is found lacking - as he surely must be - then Brands is at least 50% responsible by not providing him with the necessary tools.

How could we ever hope to be (even) as good as recent seasons without decent replacements in defence, midfield and attack whatever age they might be ?

Kevin Prytherch
36 Posted 19/10/2019 at 11:02:56
Derek - you’re not a lone voice. I think Brands, like Walsh before him, is like a kid in a sweet shop. Both of them made their name through unearthing gems and making them profitable. We then appoint them, give them millions to squander and they don’t consider anyone who costs less than £20million. Surely both Walsh and Brands had a shortlist of players that were within Leicester’s and PSV’s budgets. Where did they go?

I could go and watch Barcelona’s reserves and pick a few players who don’t play for the first team. I couldn’t unearth a gem from the french second division and turn him into a £20million player. Thats where they should show their true worth. The best two buys (in terms of improvement in value) over the last few seasons have been DCL (Unsworth) and Richarlison (Silvas).

Raymond Fox
37 Posted 19/10/2019 at 11:18:58
Of course he's worried, he's bound to be.

What concerns me is what happens when the next manager goes on a bad run, knives out again no doubt.
What we keep doing is employing so so managers and buying players the top clubs don't want and then expecting top six results.
What we want for starters is a manager thats got a cv that reads won things and has bags of experience.
Benitez was my pick before Silva was appointed, we need someone of that ilk because its becoming embarrasing all this chopping and changing.

As for today although we are well capaple of winning, player confidence must be rock botton, I know mine is.

Paul Tran
38 Posted 19/10/2019 at 11:25:28
Digne, Mina, Richarlison, Iwobi, Kean, Delph, Bernard, Gomes are all good players. If Gbamin gets fit again, he'll prove a good signing.

The only fault is that we keep buying players who don't score goals and then wonder why we don't score enough.

I'm not convinced Brands is the issue. The difference between us and say, Leicester is that they have a better coach. That's it. Someone who puts out a team that plays like it knows what it's doing, someone who can instill belief & confidence.

That's been referred to as 'cheerleading' on here. I call it management.

You don't win matches on a computer screen, you win it with players' skills, hearts and minds - then with the nerdy wizardry.

Derek Knox
39 Posted 19/10/2019 at 11:26:33
Raymond @ 37, I basically agree with your comments but it is not us (the fans) that are picking these so-so managers, I wish I knew who was.

Whoever it is, and I don't believe it is solely Farhad Moshiri, who has clearly demonstrated his football knowledge could be written on the back of a postage stamp with room left to spare.

Ray Roche
41 Posted 19/10/2019 at 11:37:59
Paul @38

I agree. The tools (players) are there to construct a good team, it's the bellend of a manager that's the problem.

Teams sometimes reflect the personality of the manager, hence the RS playing with some passion and energy, just like Gnasher shows on the touchline.

Silva always looks as if he's just been told his dog's dead.

Paul Tran
42 Posted 19/10/2019 at 11:46:34
The thing is, Ray, regarding Mr Ed, it's not what he does on the touchline, it's what he does day in, day out, by all accounts, very postive and very demanding. They look desperate to win every ball, desperate to get into the penalty box, desperate to score.

And I want to see that when I watch us.

Ray Roche
43 Posted 19/10/2019 at 12:19:02
Me too, Paul, it all stems from the manager.
Ken Kneale
44 Posted 19/10/2019 at 12:28:54
Ray and Paul yes yes to your posts. I don't see our guy ever getting me on the edge of my seat except in rage
Steve Ferns
45 Posted 20/10/2019 at 12:50:36
Paul @38 who were you referring to by nerdy wizardry?

Marco Silva is an old fashioned tracksuit manager. He might be up to date with the modern fads in coaching, but he’s not a “laptop manager”.

Nerdy wizardry might be a reference to “laptop managers”. So called because they bring computers to the training ground, using programmes such as prozone. Prozone is kind of forgotten about now, but more because everyone uses it, rather than it’s disappeared.

Do you know who the pioneers of prozone were? The likes of Sam Allardyce and David Moyes. They use computer software to crunch numbers and help their percentage games. But yet they aren’t associated with being nerdy wizards.

Moneyball was a big thing a few years ago after the success of Billy Bean’s approach in baseball. Taking players no one else wanted that could perform specific but undervalued tasks and when combined took an unlikely team to success. Could someone do a moneyball with football was the question. People seemed to skip that this was exactly what Sam Allardyce was all about. He didn’t look at the conventional game, which some call joined up football. Instead of trying to make football beautiful he looked to craft a team to win free kicks, corners, and even throw-ins and then to score from such situations. Moneyball in action to me. Computer wizardry even.

The next generation of the laptop manager is Julien Nagelsmann. The current manager of RB Leipzig. He literally brings computers to the training pitch. At hoffenheim he had a massive jumbotron sized TV screen installed at the side of the training pitch so he could paused training and show the players what they are doing wrong. Silva ain’t like this. He grabs the players with his hands and moves them about. His coaching uses no computer wizardry at all. He’s not interested in it.

Marco silva likes to watch a lot of tape. All Portuguese managers do. It’s the lesson they learnt off Mourinho. Let’s not forget silva was only in his early 20’s when Mourinho first won the champions league. Which Portuguese manager wouldn’t follow his example. Mourinho loves tape, though he now gets others to do it for him, such as André Villas Boas in the early days at chelsea, and give him the highlights. Benitez and Bielsa are the worst (or should that be best) for watching tape. No one watches more than them, but Marco doesn’t come close.

I don’t understand the computer wizardry jibe. That’s not silva at all.

Ray Smith
46 Posted 20/10/2019 at 13:52:58
Ray 41

Spot on.

Kevin Latham
47 Posted 20/10/2019 at 15:02:30
Ray (41) and Paul (42), I'm with you both.

Yesterday showed what a team can do when it has self-belief, pace, movement, commitment, determination, aggression and a will to win. Where has that attitude been all season? Liverpool show that every game and just swarm all over teams, they don't seem to believe they can be beaten. God, it's so hard to acknowledge that! It doesn't matter what side they put out, the overall attitude is the same every game.

I wonder what we'd have done yesterday if Marco had a fit squad to choose from instead of having to make changes? Would our attitude have been the same?

But surely now, the point is that he instils this into the players for every game, not just when he thinks he's on the out. I do believe that Marco can do that, provided that he accepts that he may have got some things wrong and is willing to change. It was there for all to see yesterday, and so many people on ToffeeWeb called it right weeks ago.

Paul Birmingham
48 Posted 20/10/2019 at 16:08:04
Let’s see what happens at Brighton, and it will prove if yesterday is another flash in the pan and the team returns to type, as play like a Sunday morning ale house team.

The form needs to be consistent in every game and as many have said Mr Ed’s team play for the shirt and is their lives depend on every tackle.

We need the same effort, desire and belief.

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