Bury made headlines earlier this year when a takeover bid aimed at paying off the club's debts collapsed at the last minute and they were thrown out of the EFL.
It has now emerged ahead of a BBC Northwest Inside Out documentary airing tomorrow night that both Kenwright and Everton FC themselves were prepared to give Bury financial aid but were blocked by rules preventing such assistance from a club director to another club.
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1 Posted 27/10/2019 at 10:05:01
Saying that, he has got plenty of spare cash given the vast amount he sold his Everton shares for.
2 Posted 27/10/2019 at 10:08:32
3 Posted 27/10/2019 at 10:21:46
4 Posted 27/10/2019 at 10:27:35
5 Posted 27/10/2019 at 10:29:29
6 Posted 27/10/2019 at 10:30:29
The premier League clubs are dripping in money and have a responsibility to the game in general from grass roots upwards.
Both Manchester clubs including the Neville's who's father has a stand names after him should be ashamed that they have let their local club go under.
Everton and Kenwright deserve some respect for this gesture.
7 Posted 27/10/2019 at 10:32:44
8 Posted 27/10/2019 at 10:41:42
Our chairman offering money that he wouldn't spend here, our manager getting given the dreaded vote of confidence and is still here!!!!!
9 Posted 27/10/2019 at 10:53:09
However being one of the blindly optimistic at Brighton yesterday myself - and still not dried out - I can understand the reaction of some on here whilst emotions are still raw.
It's a bit like a husband being caught up to no good by his wife and him choosing to remind her at that point that he'd washed the dishes without being asked.
Timing is everything in the tortured world of supporters - especially Evertonians.
10 Posted 27/10/2019 at 11:09:29
I managed to stay relatively dry during the match!
However, I got absolutely soaked to the skin waiting for the train!!
Even the paper money in my jeans pocket was wet.
I've dried out since, but it wasn't a pleasant/comfortable journey home.
11 Posted 27/10/2019 at 12:30:34
12 Posted 27/10/2019 at 13:25:25
What happened to Bury could happen to any club and if BK and/or EFC tried to help then good on them.
13 Posted 27/10/2019 at 13:35:28
Anyone finding fault with that well.
14 Posted 27/10/2019 at 13:40:32
15 Posted 27/10/2019 at 13:47:33
I'm far from his greatest fan, believe me, but reading stuff like this reminds me why I need to avoid this site in the main. It's just depressing.
16 Posted 27/10/2019 at 14:06:39
17 Posted 27/10/2019 at 14:11:18
What are you thoughts on the fact that Kenwright, in all of the years of his involvement with EFC, has never put a penny, never mind a million, into our club
18 Posted 27/10/2019 at 14:16:53
Karl#15. First paragraph, spot on mate.
19 Posted 27/10/2019 at 14:26:30
20 Posted 27/10/2019 at 15:06:45
Surely one of Kenwright's shows could have sponsored the shakers, but maybe their problems run deeper than just £1,000.000, and I expect a few more clubs to go the same way as Bury, with EPL players, now becoming richer than most lower tier football clubs.
21 Posted 27/10/2019 at 15:14:54
It's a good offer from BK and a very nice thing to do but I think we are all too frazzled by the usual shit show at Everton to really care sadly.
22 Posted 27/10/2019 at 15:36:40
23 Posted 27/10/2019 at 15:57:36
24 Posted 27/10/2019 at 15:58:42
25 Posted 27/10/2019 at 17:53:19
26 Posted 27/10/2019 at 19:06:25
27 Posted 27/10/2019 at 19:30:10
The man is a proven liar and likely had no intention of hanging over the cash.
I wouldn't put it past him wanting EFC to get relegated just so he can cry on live TV.
28 Posted 27/10/2019 at 19:39:13
This is only coming out now because of the BBC NW documentary that is airing tomorrow night where they made a point of asking the big clubs in the region if they had tried to do anything to save Bury.
Both Everton and Kenwright declined to comment on the articles that came out today revealing his desire to give Bury money.
29 Posted 27/10/2019 at 19:46:06
Maybe EITC could use that million for their mental health building, that is going to be a wonderful help to people in Liverpool and not just the Everton area, just a thought.
30 Posted 27/10/2019 at 19:50:54
Bill could always route the donation through my bank account. ðŸ˜
31 Posted 27/10/2019 at 19:53:02
I've heard too many of his lies and seen too many of his crocodile tears.
32 Posted 27/10/2019 at 19:54:20
33 Posted 27/10/2019 at 20:44:32
34 Posted 27/10/2019 at 20:45:35
I think we all know that Kenwright had zero intention of giving even 10p to Bury
35 Posted 27/10/2019 at 20:48:01
36 Posted 27/10/2019 at 20:56:24
It's a pity that the small minded can see no good in this gesture.
Jonathan, your constant whinging and criticisms of Kenwright are pathetic, childish and crass. Give it a break. You could bore for England.
Just for the record, I'll be glad when Kenwright is out of the positions of power at EFC but I can recognise a decent gesture.
37 Posted 27/10/2019 at 21:21:02
I know nothing of Bill Kenwright's involvements in the running of the club; therefore, I cannot accuse him of any wrongdoing, but he has my admiration for donating 𧶀,000 to the Bradley Lowery appeal fund on our behalf, and for arranging a football match which raised money for the 'Bradley Foundation Fund' and 'Everton in the Community.'
I believe that his gesture to Bury FC was genuine, and that the cynics are wrong in suggesting otherwise. I'm proud to support Everton, and applaud them for all the work they do off the pitch, these actions prove to me that we are more than just a Football Club.
38 Posted 27/10/2019 at 21:22:26
39 Posted 27/10/2019 at 21:32:39
Well said John.
41 Posted 27/10/2019 at 21:45:15
He's the worst thing to hit the club since 1878. The next manager is irrelevant because the club stands zero chance of succeeding.
Compare and contrast with a team like Leicester. Incredible that so many of you are taken in by him. This Bury story proves my point.
42 Posted 27/10/2019 at 21:57:47
The responsibility should lie with the EFL for a failure to properly vet the prospective owners of its member clubs.
43 Posted 27/10/2019 at 22:03:08
You need some sort of therapy.
44 Posted 27/10/2019 at 22:08:05
They are noted and much appreciated
45 Posted 27/10/2019 at 22:19:27
46 Posted 27/10/2019 at 22:22:44
I'm sure you'll continue to post this view during debates on here, but why do you feel the need to do it during a match?
Strange behaviour at best. I tend to agree with Ray's opinion that you need some sort of psychiatric help.
47 Posted 27/10/2019 at 22:27:26
The clamour for so called “psychiatric help “ would carry some weight if either you or Ray were medical professionals. As I'm guessing that neither of you are, I'll carry on as I am.
But thanks anyway.
Ps most of my calls yesterday were for “silva outâ€ and it looks like I'll get my way very soon.
48 Posted 27/10/2019 at 22:31:19
Having had people very close suffer with mental health, it's no joking matter.
49 Posted 27/10/2019 at 22:34:11
50 Posted 27/10/2019 at 22:38:48
He's cheap, available and will be seen as the man to avoid relegation. With this squad, I'm not convinced. Moyes is a damn site better than Silva though.
Simon thanks for your point and obviously, I agree !
51 Posted 27/10/2019 at 22:44:45
52 Posted 27/10/2019 at 22:53:48
Silva needs to be give more than just over a season. Koeman had lost the players and we had a totally unbalanced squad 2 years ago. We are in a better position than then when desperate measures were taken. We are still incredibly only 3 points off 7th, which is where we would have been now, but for that farcical VAR business yesterday.
Just pressing the Panic button and bringing back a busted flush like Moyes would be a silly move in my opinion.
53 Posted 28/10/2019 at 01:21:41
I don't think bill is that inept, is he?
54 Posted 28/10/2019 at 07:39:38
Good on the man if he was genuine, but if he was a real genuine Evertonian, he would have stepped down the minute Moshiri came into the club, and I still can't understand why he's still here, splitting the fan base for fun.
55 Posted 28/10/2019 at 07:41:26
56 Posted 28/10/2019 at 07:53:54
57 Posted 28/10/2019 at 07:58:00
The more you think about the greed of THE EPL, the more it makes you sick, so if Kenwright was genuine, good on the man, but something has got to radically change in England, otherwise what has happened to Bury, will happen to a few more, and surely this should be the bigger part of the story, and something can be put in place to stop this very sad demise happening to others?
58 Posted 28/10/2019 at 09:08:15
During the last twenty five - thirty years Everton fans have proved, those who stayed anyway, that they are the most patient and tolerant fans in the country, we haven't complained enough, put up with the way has been run far too easily.
I'm still hopeful we are very slowly starting to get back to where a club of Everton's size could be, it's not a divine right, but with better management we deserve, the fans, to be in a much better position than were we are now.
Let's be honest here if Kenwright had run his theatre business like he has managed Everton he would be bankrupt, the way Everton very nearly were under his chairmanship of the club.
59 Posted 28/10/2019 at 09:19:43
60 Posted 28/10/2019 at 09:26:18
61 Posted 28/10/2019 at 09:30:51
62 Posted 28/10/2019 at 09:48:05
63 Posted 28/10/2019 at 09:49:14
65 Posted 28/10/2019 at 12:20:34
Yes, he made money... so what? He also spent money. I'm no Kenwright lover but respect for trying to save Bury.
66 Posted 28/10/2019 at 13:44:51
67 Posted 28/10/2019 at 13:47:43
68 Posted 28/10/2019 at 13:56:09
69 Posted 28/10/2019 at 13:58:02
70 Posted 28/10/2019 at 14:04:01
The point is, the only reason we know who Bill Kenwright is, and the only reason he and the club have money, is because fans pay to see Everton.
All this charitable stuff is nice but, let's be honest, if that was our primary concern, there are organizations like the Red Cross and Save the Children that are far better equipped to use our cash to support the needy.
71 Posted 28/10/2019 at 14:36:26
I understand the FA not allowing Everton FC to donate to other clubs but not an individual from his own finances. This was a good gesture from Kenwright to try to help a struggling club, who have been a member of the FA since before the people commenting on here were born, with just a small but (like Everton) enthusiastic fan base.
I am not a Kenwright fan and wanted him out after the Kings Dock fiasco. He did get what we as supporters wanted though, and that is a new owner with the finances to back it up.
We complain about the FA' s lack of help for grassroots football and this demonstrates some of their outdated rules.
72 Posted 28/10/2019 at 14:43:01
I don't want to turn this into another Kenwright debate but people who think Bill put a single penny into the club are seriously deluded and need to be put straight.
Need I mention Kings Dock, Destination Kirby or Fortress Sports Fund when the lies and deceit that were pedalled out every day?
And we wonder why we have become Pathetic Everton???
73 Posted 28/10/2019 at 14:47:23
Despite the nice words, if any Everton fans â€“ or anyone else for that matter â€“ was really concerned with Bury FC they could have gone to their games, bought Bury FC shirts, invested directly in the club. Nobody gave Moshiri or Kenwright permission to use fans' money for any purpose other than making Everton FC good.
74 Posted 28/10/2019 at 14:59:45
I have no axe to grind in defence of Bill Kenwright, nor do I have cause to attack his role at Everton. I view his offer of assistance to Bury FC as a gift, and I respect his right to dispose of his money as he sees fit.
75 Posted 28/10/2019 at 15:10:53
76 Posted 28/10/2019 at 15:17:50
It wouldn't have been donation from Everton FC, it would have been a gift from Bill Kenwright. Unless of course, you're referring to the money donated to the Bradley Lowery Fund. As I have stated in my previous post, I know nothing of the financial side of football, but I feel quite sure that, once I buy my season ticket, the money belongs to Everton.
77 Posted 28/10/2019 at 15:29:28
There again, he may have known the financial rules regarding cash gifts to other clubs and knew it would get knocked back. It's all irrelevant really.
78 Posted 28/10/2019 at 15:51:52
I was referring to reports stating that, aside from Kenwright offering a personal million, Everton FC also offered ٟ million to Bury FC. I don't know if that was the case but I read that in three papers yesterday.
79 Posted 28/10/2019 at 18:21:57
80 Posted 28/10/2019 at 18:49:40
Not sure why he's still involved tbh.
81 Posted 28/10/2019 at 19:36:49
82 Posted 28/10/2019 at 21:15:53
Bury isn't just the footballers it's the many workers behind the scenes who have families and mortgages.
The pathetic vitriol that Bill gets at times would make Lucifer clutch his pearls and step back.
Well done Mr Kenwright. Nice gesture.
83 Posted 28/10/2019 at 21:47:53
84 Posted 28/10/2019 at 22:01:05
85 Posted 28/10/2019 at 22:20:03
Consider this. Kenwright is a better man than you. He did not allow anything to become public knowledge. Lost for words, l really am.
86 Posted 28/10/2019 at 22:34:21
If you didn't know better you'd think Kenwright is a charlatan, period.
87 Posted 28/10/2019 at 22:34:51
I wonder what the reaction would be on TW today if the club announced it had signed a former bin man from a lower league club?
88 Posted 29/10/2019 at 02:10:23
I understand the not putting a penny into the club and being stagmented, that's fine, but to have a pop over this gesture is baffling.
Forgetting Everton in the community and all the good that's been done through this, Everton also donated to Bradley Lowery, they tried to help Bury Football club, how many others have come in with offers to at least try and help others.
On a couple of occasions, Kenwright has paid for free coach travel for travelling Everton fans, one being Fulham away in the midweek cup game.
By all means kick Kenwright at every opportunity, but at times he comes in for stick no matter what he does.
Anything that goes wrong is down to Kenwright by some, like I say the guy maybe at fault for certain ongoings but next it will be Bills fault Brexit did not get delivered.
89 Posted 29/10/2019 at 04:06:57
Some of you are so easily duped. A) Did he really not know about the PL/EFL rules? "Under the rules of the FA Premier League and those of UEFA (the European Governing Body of football), it is prohibited for the owners or directors of a football club to have the power to influence the management of another club."
B) Did he really believe, in this age of instant communication and snooping journo's that this gesture would never become public knowledge?
and C) Why didn't he use a 3rd party to donate the cash anonymously? It's obvious to anyone with a couple of brain cells, that he is need of some good PR after all the shit going on with our club, so instead of ingratiating himself with Everton fans, where the donation would have been legal, he pulls this stunt, knowing full well, he won't have to part with a penny. The man trained as an actor, and he's a pretty good one
90 Posted 29/10/2019 at 05:29:39
Didn't our neighbours have some sort of arrangement with Wrexham some years ago?
91 Posted 29/10/2019 at 07:28:34
Alan J, I expect there will be changes to that rule in the future, otherwise loads of clubs will find themselves in a similar position to Bury.
Tranmere Rovers, In the third tier of English football would probably be pushing for promotion once again, if they could have a budget similar to Everton's academy, and in my head are the lyrics to “The Jam's-funeral pyreâ€ and loads of Evertonians singing “Please Release Us, Let Us Goâ€ to Kenwright!
92 Posted 29/10/2019 at 07:40:04
My understanding is that Kenwright offered money from his own personal fortune and the genuine offer was leaked by a Manchester journalist. What a crime!! He should be taken out
,put against a wall and shot!
Conspiracy theorists! Dear Lord above. Get a fuckin' life.
93 Posted 29/10/2019 at 08:19:48
He was spotted on camera congratulating Bernard on his game and goal. Brazilian tv were interviewing Bernard at the same time. People were on the forum calling it cringe worthy and pathetic. They way I saw it, Kenwright was building Bernard's confidence up. Also descent Brazilian footballers my see Everton as a good club to come to, with a director patting a player on the back.
Good PR I think its called. So lets be a little bit balance, when he does something good.
94 Posted 29/10/2019 at 10:38:39
in Everton and run Bury or give the spare million to Everton in the Community That would save any more arguments
95 Posted 29/10/2019 at 11:14:38
96 Posted 29/10/2019 at 11:41:45
97 Posted 29/10/2019 at 12:27:28
We're not bitter though.
98 Posted 29/10/2019 at 13:09:49
My observations of Everton since the dawn of the Premier League are much in the same vein, in that, within the dawn of the start of this present era, I quickly concluded two things:
1. Kenwright had no money.
2. Ergo he set out to borrow money at extortionate rates.
3. Look I'm not in the mood to drone on about the ins and outs of Bill Kenwright, I've been on here like (some) others for years now... But there is a simple overview, and that is that all the (now) top clubs built their Romes while we scurried round the backstreets with Fagin and the Artfull Dodger at the helm (luckily) treading water, buying the odd one player a year etc.
Back to the Fanbase: Liverpool was our roll Model in that their fans hounded and chased (Gillette and Hicks) boycotted, protested, and even launched the old guard (unlike us), the likes of Dalgleish, Woy, Rodgers etc etc.
I know he's 'caught' a Billionaire. (A Monty Python version of an accountant btw!) But Moshiri does NOT strike me as a 'Tiger in the tank' kind of John Harvey Jones of Footy, which is what we really need.
Back to main point, I think we are a dormant volcano regarding fan protests (unless we do go down). Basically Moshiri is being helped by Brands and maybe a few of Usmanov's men? But that arl barnacle is still there whispering in his ears.
Liverpool fans would've dragged him out and wellied him into the Mersey 20 years ago. Hindsight maybe the greatest gift you'll never have... but, if Kenwright had not bought the club, do you not think with the ensuing wave of football interest, big money, Sky etc. (at that time), a real money man would'nt ?!
99 Posted 29/10/2019 at 13:25:04
100 Posted 29/10/2019 at 13:44:08
101 Posted 29/10/2019 at 14:19:05
You bet I'd call him a cunt if I came home, found that he had broken into my house, stolen my furniture and replaced it, and was cooking a meal.
102 Posted 29/10/2019 at 14:48:57
103 Posted 29/10/2019 at 15:07:01
If all of that is true, and he had no knowledge that it could not be accepted (and I have absolutely no evidence to the contrary), then for all I think the man has been a twat, that is one fine gesture.
The man is what the man HAS BEEN. The gesture is what the gesture IS.
104 Posted 29/10/2019 at 16:04:25
Tony mate, I agree that he should resign. He should have resigned years ago but I just believe that he 'aint as bad as he's made out to be.
I know you and me will probably never agree when it comes to him (though we just have over his resignation) but I just don't see the last twenty years of us being in the doldrums as being all his fault.
Loads of clubs have spent more time than that in the doldrums and NEVER had the success we had in the 80's and I just wonder whether it would have happened whether he came on board or not.
I just feel that sometimes some people need someone to blame and my experience has taught me that sometimes when very bad things happen it's nobody's fault.
Maybe my experience has softened me a bit?
105 Posted 29/10/2019 at 16:13:37
Fair point. BK gets way too much credit as hero and villain. In the big scheme of things he's an irrelevant incompetent owner whose reign was without note. We should probably stop portraying him as a saint or devil and just forget about him as history will
106 Posted 29/10/2019 at 17:47:29
Oh, you are a wag, aren't you? Do you write this stuff yourself or does Ben Elton give you a hand? ;-)
Brent,, good call. I got the information from two golfing buddies, both reds incidentally, who made the claim after reading it in the press. I have no reason to disbelieve them. Like you, I would prefer Kenwright to be put out to grass but I can recognise a generous gesture when I see one and, like others, I imagined that William Kenwright CBE, a member of the British public and not acting on behalf of any football club or similar organisation, would be in a position to offer a charitable type donation to any cause, club, charity etc., without the intervention of the corrupt (allegedly) governing body of the FA.
Maybe a little help at grass roots and lowers leagues from the said FA might improve football in this country.
107 Posted 29/10/2019 at 18:31:19
Very bad things sometimes happen and it's nobody's fault, but thank god we never went to Kirkby, and I can't believe any genuine self-respecting Evertonian, would have tried to push “our clubâ€ so far away from our spiritual home.
I'm being serious now though when I say that, if I was the Chairman of Liverpool FC, then Kirkby is definitely the move I would have tried and wanted the most.
108 Posted 30/10/2019 at 01:11:48
109 Posted 30/10/2019 at 07:51:31
110 Posted 30/10/2019 at 18:51:24
Go ed, Bill, get in there.
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