With the hectic Festive programme out the way, Carlo Ancelotti has finally had a full week with the players on the training pitch
Everton turn their focus back to the only remaining business of the 2019-20 season and that is making a concerted push for the top six over the remaining 17 games of the Premier League campaign.
The Blues made the meekest of exits from the FA Cup at the hands of their arch rivals from across the Park last Sunday and must begin the process of making amends with their long-suffering fans with the visit of Brighton this weekend.
The fallout from the cup derby defeat to a largely young and inexperienced Liverpool side has been predictably sobering but while the players were given a dressing down by Duncan Ferguson the immediate aftermath and Director of Football, Marcel Brands, held counsel with a small group of concerned fans outside the gates of Finch Farm, the most important work will have been done by Carlo Ancelotti on the pitches and in the video room of the club's Halewood complex.
Having taken over at the height of the Festive programme, this has been the new manager's first full week on the training ground with the players where he could not only manage the response to the latest Anfield debacle but also impart his ideas and methods to the players in earnest.
The manner of the defeat will present a stern test of Ancelotti's renowned man management talents but he will also learn a great deal more about the character of the team he has inherited over the coming weeks.
If Ancelotti was as shocked as reports suggested he was by Everton's performance at Anfield, his first move would, ordinarily, be to make a number of personnel changes to the starting XI this weekend. The continuing lack of options, however, particularly in central midfield mean that the Italian's scope for making wholesale changes is still limited.
Gylfi Sigurdsson and Morgan Schneiderlin were paired together against Liverpool and proved to be a spectacular failure as a partnership, with the Frenchman emerging with little credit from his return to action after three weeks out and Sigurdsson being substituted after about an hour for the second game running.
It would be hugely surprising to see the same players line up together again against the Seagulls and there is merit in deploying Mason Holgate in a midfield role once again and recalling Michael Keane to central defence, even if the England man's form has been decidedly iffy this campaign. Tom Davies will also be pushing for inclusion while Fabian Delph might argue that he was only on for the last half hour against the reds and could make the case that some experience is needed in the middle of the park.
Ancelotti also has decisions to make regarding both full-back positions. At left-back, Lucas Digne looks exhausted and completely unproductive at the moment, perhaps because he hasn't fully recovered from the groin problem he picked up five weeks ago. Bringing Leighton Baines back in would seem to be a “no-brainer”.
At right-back, Djibril Sidibé has had an awful start to the new year but was arguably Everton's best player over the preceding month while Seamus Coleman seemed to have a mini-revival form under Ancelotti but he, too, has been taken off in the last two games so much will depend on whether or not the manager opts for his three-man defence, with Sidibé in a wing-back role again.
Further forward, Richarlison has looked dead on his feet but will have benefited from the six-day break and is almost certain to start playing off Dominic Calvert-Lewin. Despite missing good chances, the two attacking players were, perhaps, deserving of what little sympathy there was to go round on Sunday given how poorly the team used the ball and got it forward on the day and there is definitely something to be said for now turning to those players who appear to genuinely care.
You could add Bernard to that list, another player who is deserving of a start having recovered from the knock he picked up on New Year's Day and with Theo Walcott having demonstrated how little he now brings to the team, there is definitely scope for starting Anthony Gordon on the opposite flank. He may be young but he can't possibly be worse than the former Arsenal man.
Everton will be coming up against a Brighton side that has won just once since their 2-1 win at Arsenal a month ago, with their head-turning early-season form under the equally impressive Graham Potter giving way to three draws and three defeats in all competitions in that time.
The south coasters are well organised, move the ball very well and are difficult to beat, though, and, as such, will not be easy opposition for a Blues side needing to show a significant response to the events of last weekend.
How Ancelotti's men respond will be key in what could be an uneasy atmosphere in the early going. It will be incumbent on them to ignite the home support through commitment and deed on the pitch as that will be quickest way to get Evertonians back onside and fully behind them for the rest of a season that is by no means over yet despite the gloom of the past few days.
Kick-off: 3pm, Saturday 11 January, 2020
Referee: David Coote
Last Time: Everton 3 - 1 Brighton
Predicted Line-up: Pickford, Coleman, Mina, Holgate, Baines, Delph, Davies, Bernard, Gordon, Richarlison, Calvert-Lewin
Quotes sourced from ToffeeWeb Match Report page
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1 Posted 10/01/2020 at 07:40:03
The irony is that this may prove to be the catalyst for a complete clear out of the overpaid non committed clowns that we currently have at the club.
Brands must also take responsibility for the signings,keen being a classic example, the kid is out of his depth and although he may have potential we should be buying the complete player to get this club where it should be.
on a positive note I don't think we will go down !! lol
2 Posted 10/01/2020 at 07:46:56
Big game - big response required.
3 Posted 10/01/2020 at 07:54:35
So I have little doubt they will turn up and win tomorrow.
The problem is the mentality of our players, theyll win tomorrow and think they have appeased the supporters but then they will have the next two weeks off and turn in shit shows.
As I say, thats the mentality of player we have harboured at Everton for too long.
4 Posted 10/01/2020 at 07:59:01
5 Posted 10/01/2020 at 08:01:52
Wont happen over night.
Tom Davies on main site sharing some of the expected training insight from his new boss.
Carlo has to get the most out of a dysfunctional group of players.
Expectations are at an all time low, who will stand up and stand out?
6 Posted 10/01/2020 at 08:15:13
I dont think its really that harsh on Walcott.
Hes deteriorated rapidly since his first six months at Everton when he actually started brightly.
His end product is woeful, nearly every ball misses its intended target and he no longer poses any goal threat (he hasnt scored all season) not helpful when you are crying out for goals from midfield.
I could not quite work out the team selection last Sunday, why it included Walcott, Sidibe AND Coleman, it has to be two from that three at the very most, and no more.
Our entire midfield has done nothing all season, nobody creates, nobody scores, we have wingers that dont run at fullbacks.
Even Gomes before he got injured was having quite a subdued season, I just dont know what it is with midfielders at this club anymore, they dont seem capable of getting involved in matches.
7 Posted 10/01/2020 at 08:16:08
8 Posted 10/01/2020 at 08:20:03
A tough job for Carlo and Duncan to firstly castigate the worst offenders at Anfield but somehow try to muster resources and rally the troops for a very important league game.
Obviously, there can't be wholesale changes due to injuries but I'm sure that very few people want to see Schides and Siggy on the same pitch when in the same team.
9 Posted 10/01/2020 at 08:21:04
The whole place would be positive with the threat of relegation gone. But now we face the reality that this is the year of the drop, from which we will take a hell of a long time to recover. Another false dawn, an Everton dawn.
10 Posted 10/01/2020 at 08:40:04
11 Posted 10/01/2020 at 08:57:06
12 Posted 10/01/2020 at 08:59:10
I would like to see Gordon joined by Adenerin (or Baningime if fit) on the bench. Completely drop Sigurdsson and Schneiderlin. I would say completely drop Delph as well, but other than Holgate there is no other viable central midfield option.
13 Posted 10/01/2020 at 09:07:39
I don't just mean the way he puts his hands on his knees to get his breath back, he's also got a massive arse for a 19 year old footballer!
14 Posted 10/01/2020 at 09:10:03
At this stage, we just need to pick up points to maintain direction of travel in the league. Given Delph's attitude, I'm not sure his presence will help pull the team together. With that in mind, I'd drop him alongside Sigurdsson, Schneiderlin and Walcott. On the other hand, nothing to lose in playing Gordon so - certainly - give the lad a chance
15 Posted 10/01/2020 at 09:15:31
16 Posted 10/01/2020 at 09:33:28
I agree with that because I touched on it myself a few weeks ago, young Moise looks a little top heavy and like hes carrying a tad bit of timber.
Lukaku was always a big chunky physical lad at 19 but he was extremely strong too, albeit inconsistent, he did really bully defenders when he was on his game, Ive yet to really see that in Kean.
17 Posted 10/01/2020 at 09:37:45
Thats the Everton way. Sell Rooney, Arteta, Barkley, Lescott, Lukaku, Gueye and replace them with Walcotts.
18 Posted 10/01/2020 at 09:41:22
19 Posted 10/01/2020 at 09:41:44
20 Posted 10/01/2020 at 09:46:42
Hes a complete bellend for getting involved.
21 Posted 10/01/2020 at 09:57:07
Matty Foulds is a left back. He was signed for an undisclosed fee a few years back. He is just shy of his 22nd birthday. He was meant to develop into a centre-back and his playing style fits in more with a cultured centre-back than a flying fullback.
Foulds is more like a cross between a left footed Mason Holgate and a left footed Tony Hibbert than Lucas Digne, Leighton Baines, or Seamus Coleman. His career has not progressed to plan due to him not quite getting the inches needed to play centre-back. I am unsure how tall he is but would guess around 6'0". He's certainly smaller than Feeney and Gibson and noticeably so. He is not a good crosser and would not get forward with confidence. He might suit playing on the left of a back 3.
The other usual suspects were there: Gordon and Adeniran. No sign of Gibson (injured) or Baningime (injured). Gordon was not in the u23s squad on Monday, whereas Adeniran was. Feeney has returned for the u23s and this meant the team had a better look about it. Astley was back at right back, john was back to right wing, Adeniran therefore came back inside to DM with Markelo alongside him. Evans in the 10 role and Mampala on the left wing.
Gordon is sure to be featured. Whether or not he starts is the question.
22 Posted 10/01/2020 at 09:57:24
Delph can do one. I'd rather have Holgate and Davies in the middle.
We have to rest Richarlison at some point so I'd start with DCL and Kean.
23 Posted 10/01/2020 at 10:02:04
But Ray is quite right, Delph should have just ignored it. More Everton players use their settings so fans cannot comment on their pictures, only their "friends" and their DMs are available only to friends. Delph should have switched to this as well. As an Everton player, you would have to expect abuse from the fans of rival clubs, and some people would give the likes of Messi grief never mind our crappy players.
24 Posted 10/01/2020 at 10:07:20
I doubt that Ancelotti had done much "due diligence" before he took the job. He was unemployed, the PL is the best paying and most successful league in the world, and Everton's owner is a billionaire. Judging by the look on his face during the second half at Anfield, he's probably wishing he had looked into the set-up a bit more carefully, cos it's a fucking nightmare scenario for a manager like him.
I'm not expecting much for the rest of the season, just more mediocrity and a few wins to gets us a top half finish. If there isn't a massive clear out in the summer, then it'll be more of the same next season. Ancelotti can't get a silk purse out of sow's ear, no matter how many glittering titles he's won.
25 Posted 10/01/2020 at 10:08:20
Davies and Delph to a degree at least show for the ball.
I'll go with Lyndons team as the thought of Trossard and Maupay running at Keane gives me kittens.
We mustn't expect too much of Gordon. He's only a kid who's struggled at times to make an impact in the U23s but at least playing him would give the crowd the lift and I really think the players will need to feel supported tomorrow (not that they deserve it).
A win tomorrow and we'd be W4 D2 L1 in the league over seven matches which is pretty good. We could still make a run on the top 7 and if we could get into Europe for next year then that may help convince better players to come here in the summer. We must try to move on from the humiliating affair in mid-week and hope Ancelotti can begin to get a sweeter tune out of these players.
26 Posted 10/01/2020 at 10:09:55
Moise Kean has a weird gait about him. He does not have an elegant walk. Another who has an unusual walk is Jonjo Kenny who walks like a lot of the young lads you see in the city centre, kind of a scouse strut. It does not hinder Kenny in the slightest as he bombs up and down the wing for Schalke. I do wonder though if Jack Wilshere has issues related to his unusual walk affecting his knees and back, if this would effect Kenny in anyway. I'm sure the medical experts would be all over it if that was the case.
Anyway, Kean looks, walks, and runs the same way he did for Juve. And his big arse is part of his strengths as he uses it to shield older and stronger players from the ball.
27 Posted 10/01/2020 at 10:41:41
28 Posted 10/01/2020 at 10:42:31
Certain players do have strange gaits to running, Aaron Lennon had a spider like run about him but in his first year or so with us he wasnt absolutely brilliant for us.
Kean, like Mina a bit has a weird running gait yes, they dont run in a straight line lol.
Im waiting to see what Moise can do and personally Id just start him up front now every week until the end of the season with DCL and see if hes going to cut much here.
29 Posted 10/01/2020 at 10:49:29
While I never like us to go out of any Cup, and especially in the manner that we did this time, AND against a much ' weakened ' opposition, it may however be a blessing in disguise.
There are obviously a lot of problems behind the scenes, apart from overpaid, overpriced underperforming and ageing playing staff, that needs to be sorted out. I was happy when Marcel Brands came onboard, and thought at long last we a Footballing man on the Board and who would also be involved in buying players.
He has however blotted his copybook in my eyes with a few very expensive incomings, who have yet to prove their worth, ie, Iwobi, Kean and to a lesser degree Delph. The others he couldn't have envisaged serious injury in Gomes, Gbamin, and the downturn in performance of Digne.
So let's hope the players have been left in no uncertain terms at Finch Farm this week, after serious words from Duncan, Carlo and possibly M Brands too, as to where they stand and what is expected as a minimum in EVERY game.
For the match tomorrow, Brighton have surprised me recently since Graham Potter has been in charge, with a couple of good acquisitions in Trossard (ironically we were linked with him) Jahanbakhsh and Neil Maupay, who individually and collectively are capable of inflicting damage IF given the space and opportunity to do so.
It won't be easy by any means, but not impossible either, I find it hard without knowing who will be playing to even hazard a guess at the scoreline, but equally worrying where the goals are going to come from?
30 Posted 10/01/2020 at 10:56:36
31 Posted 10/01/2020 at 10:58:28
32 Posted 10/01/2020 at 10:58:33
Anthony Gordon is a very fast player with incredible speed with the ball at his feet. It's one thing being fast, it's another to run fast with the ball. He has great close control. He can shift direction without losing speed. He has all the tricks and flair you could hope for. His position is a number 10. So I would say he has similarities to James Maddison. The part of his game he needs to improve the most is his passing as for a number 10 he needs to be more insightful, although he does appear to have the vision. This ability on the ball, the pace he has, and the ability to beat a man has seen him often shunted out wide.
He has actually played most often as a left winger, as the more technical right footed wingers find. He has scored a lot of goals by ghosting inside from the left and smashing it home with his right. Those who have not seen the Mansfield goal need to do so again. Remember, this is the Football League Trophy, it is a professional match against professional opposition in a lower league competition and is not a youth match. Link
In the u18s Gordon tended to play in his preferred number 10 position. He could run the game and he was prolific, scoring 15 goals in 22 games. Last season he struggled as Sam says scoring just once in 14 games (out of 22) and dropping back to the u18s for a short spell. He was back with the u23s midseason and figured off the bench. He finished the season mostly on the bench starting only 2 of the last 5.
This season he has been the main man. He scored 5 in his first 5 games, as the u23s were at the right end of the table. His form slowed of late, but he has not played many games due to first team commitments. We also need to remember that Anthony Gordon has not trained with the u23s at all this season. He trained the whole season with the first team. This means he cannot work on things with his teammates and most of their success has been just give Gordon the ball and watch him go.
I think the fans will be very patient with Gordon. They always were with Rooney, with Barkley and with Davies. It's when the youngster moves from emerging youngster to first team regular that people question sections of the crowd. I think Gordon in from the start will give the crowd the lift it needs after Sunday and can allow Gordon time to grow into the game and more opportunities to get the ball in full flow and to run at the Brighton defence.
If you look closely at Brighton, then they have a giant left back, Dan Burn. But sadly he got injured against Chelsea and went off injured. I would love to see Gordon running at the guy, he's 6'7" and wouldn't be able to handle Gordon's speed and trickery. That said, he has done well this season against other fast players, but Gordon would surely relish the match up. In his place is likely to be Bernardo. Dunno too much about him, he's Brazilian and was first choice left back last season so I have seen him play, but I think he was left wing.
33 Posted 10/01/2020 at 11:04:46
The lad, without being injured to the best of my knowledge, has rarely even appeared as a bench-warmer of late, with Stekelenburg being preferred.
Whether there is any substance to it, but we are allegedly looking to bring another keeper in? When Record Losses are about to be announced this Financial Lunacy should be forensically examined and serious questions asked!
34 Posted 10/01/2020 at 11:08:44
35 Posted 10/01/2020 at 11:14:18
His move obviously didnt go well.
36 Posted 10/01/2020 at 11:22:00
37 Posted 10/01/2020 at 11:23:12
38 Posted 10/01/2020 at 11:27:01
It is not the first time that this has been raised either, and it was in evidence on Sunday in all departments!
39 Posted 10/01/2020 at 11:44:50
Nagelsmann wanted to buy Lookman time. He did just this by saying he was not fit. The reality is he was a signing made by the Leipzig Director of Football who clearly rates him. Naglesmann does not play wingers. So Lookman has played up top and he struggled. 3 games, 131 minutes in total, in the league and another in the Champions League. He is available for a cut-price fee otherwise Mike Ashley will not be in for him. That tells you everything you need to know. I would question Mr Lookman now. He is 22 and still yet to make the breakthrough.
40 Posted 10/01/2020 at 11:53:34
Hoping for a positive reaction from all players picked after Sundays debacle. Additionally, 3 points here will put fears of relegation to bed so we can start looking up not down the table (we'd only need about 9 points from 16 games to stay up).
Really hope Ancelotti can get a tune out of Kean. Just hasn't worked for him so far and I think a goal wold do wonders for the kids confidence. He has pace and just think he needs that little bit of luck. Otherwise we may need to cut our losses whilst his stock is still relatively high back in Italy.
41 Posted 10/01/2020 at 11:58:19
42 Posted 10/01/2020 at 12:33:52
If you dismiss the FA cup game we have been doing ok in the League, more of the same should see us beat Brighton.
We are 9/10 favs which looks generous to me, as I think the players will surely be up for this game.
43 Posted 10/01/2020 at 12:52:35
To me Walcott is something of an enigma. I agree with John (4) as I thought he played better than most in the first half of the Liverpool game. Kean needs to start and finish a game to prove or diprove his ability and fitness. Hopefully Ancelotti has now had time to assess his options and should be able to get the most out of all his players. I think we MUST trust his judgement and let him pick the players to play against Brighton, even those that we feel should be banished to the sidelines for the rest of their careers.
44 Posted 10/01/2020 at 12:59:59
My reason being supported by perception alone, as some players seem to be ' blowing for tugs ' and that's only just after the warm up!
In addition I watch many matches (whole) or highlights of most in the Premiership and European and South American Leagues, and to the untrained eye, players from other Clubs, irrespective of Country, seem to be a lot fitter and more mentally aware than we have been of late.
45 Posted 10/01/2020 at 13:00:50
Put Antony on the bench by all means and if we have a compfortable lead, give the last twenty minutes or so.
46 Posted 10/01/2020 at 13:06:14
Gordon does have a tendency to go missing, and if you take the first five games of the u23s season from him, then his stats take a real battering. Even in the u18s he scored most of those goals in a very short period where he was well past 1 per game at one stage.
I would start him though. It's time and Brighton is one of the sides you would pick for a young footballer like Gordon to make his first start against. Them or Norwich. You know he's not going to get kicked up and down the pitch.
47 Posted 10/01/2020 at 13:10:05
Seamus Keane Mina Baines
Sidibie Holgate Davies Bernard
48 Posted 10/01/2020 at 13:19:04
We have the big fixtures on a run again after these four games, so for me, if we are going to Gordon a run, then we need to do it now while the fixture list is a bit kinder to Everton.
49 Posted 10/01/2020 at 13:26:52
Carlo Ancelotti said we had good fitness levels. Duncan has them running more, but that was to unsustainable levels. No player can sprint all match long. As for the teams ahead of us. I would ask serious questions about the fitness of the fittest team in the league, we all know who, and I wonder if they have signed a certain doctor from team sky.
50 Posted 10/01/2020 at 13:28:58
Whoever is on the field tomorrow, let's get behind them. It seems your team selection was picked in anger.
51 Posted 10/01/2020 at 13:35:48
1. Michael Johnson - 4 Olympic golds, 8 World Championship golds - had the worst technical running style ever seen [head back, arms high and stationary]. As he said sarcastically at the end of his career: 'If only I'd had proper technique, I might have won something'!
2. Freddie Trueman - the late England fast bowler, in response to a remark about his unusually large behind, said: 'Aye, lass …. but you need a bloody big hammer, to hit a bloody big nail...'!
3. I've said this before, but the fittest people I've ever come across, have been elite oarsmen. Have Everton ever thought of asking for advice on fitness, from Sir Steve Redgrave, or Sir Matthew Pinsent? If you win multiple Olympic golds, at rowing, you are, by definition, amongst the fittest people on the planet!
52 Posted 10/01/2020 at 13:37:16
This one is so, so easy for me:
Seamus Keane Mina Baines
Bernard Holgate Davies Rich
Bench - Digne, Delph, Tosun, Gordon, Lossl, Gordon, some other kid
All the other pretenders shouldn't even make the bench.
53 Posted 10/01/2020 at 13:41:58
54 Posted 10/01/2020 at 13:42:42
56 Posted 10/01/2020 at 13:49:06
OK, put a third Id on the bench!
57 Posted 10/01/2020 at 13:49:16
58 Posted 10/01/2020 at 13:49:47
I do wonder if the chaos in the middle of the park has maybe meant that our defence and forwards have come in for more flak than they deserve? We have had poor screening of the defence and a dearth of creativity all season have we not?
We sold Gana for say £28 M and replaced him with Gbarmin and Delph for a combined figure of around £35M, only to lose both to injury for the majority of the season so far. That is bad luck, but the under- performance of those drafted in is not. It's plain worrying.
We need to see a lot more of Bernard, and he, in turn, needs to come to terms with the fact that he is now our main source of creativity and play with courage. I feel he has dropped off since the bright start, maybe give him a go off Richalison in a number 10, we could do worse?
59 Posted 10/01/2020 at 13:52:20
60 Posted 10/01/2020 at 13:52:26
61 Posted 10/01/2020 at 14:04:16
62 Posted 10/01/2020 at 14:08:16
63 Posted 10/01/2020 at 14:09:56
Fast forward to around the four minute mark to bypass the prelude of previous match highlights.
He deals with all the issues of the week head on.
Denies there was a dressing room bust-up post-match. That the players listened to what was highlighted about their failings. That he and the club spoke to Delph about his online exchange, saying that things are said in the heat of emotion and is understandable. That he heard about Brands meeting with fans at Finch Farm, saying it was very normal in Italy and that he himself would have no problem in speaking with them in such cases.
On preparation and training, the team continues to train well (separate video below of this week's training session):
That he will adapt the team's play to the players he has. That he is very flexible and not stuck to one system only.
On being asked about Alisher Usmanov he replied in his recruitment he only spoke with Moshiri, Kenwright and Brands and has only met Usmanov once in a non-football capacity.
On Tosun leaving on loan to Palace, the player asked to go to a team where he can get games and he wishes him well.
On transfers, he repeated what he previously said, that they finally sat down to discuss the transfer market only this week after the cup game.
He spoke of 'a name' he is particularly interested in, but naturally did not reveal it. He said it is a name that NONE of the media has associated with Everton.
When pressed on what position he deflected it wasn't a goalkeeper because we have one of the best in England's national goalkeeper. When pressed further and asked 'central midfield', he smiled and said 'could be'.
He also spoke of the importance of the fans and the atmosphere they created in his first Goodison game against Burnley and that the side need that again tomorrow, but he understood their disappointment and frustration.
A good honest interview.
64 Posted 10/01/2020 at 14:11:56
I didn't know it was so intense, the training they do at altitude as well, they are driven to almost inhuman levels of tolerance, where they are literally writhing on the floor in agony, as they are gasping for breath, and their muscles begin to spasm.
They have to eat 8 times the normal calorie intake just to fuel themselves for the gruelling challenges beset them. So you are right in saying they are probably the fittest athletes, next to Triathletes and Marathon runners.
Our lot like completely cosseted namby pambys in comparison, come to think of it
65 Posted 10/01/2020 at 14:20:02
Wasn't our very own John Conteh crowned UK's Superstar champion once?
66 Posted 10/01/2020 at 14:23:39
Andre Gomes will be back in training next week, but no mention as to how soon it will be before he can play.
67 Posted 10/01/2020 at 14:36:45
Feel sorry for Kean. A nineteen year old kid, who can't speak a word of English, moving abroad to a club that (as far as I know) doesn't have anybody at the club speak his language. I really believe he only needs one goal to get his confidence up and running. Anyone remember his run and shot against Lincoln, where he turned the defender inside out only to thump his shot against the post. Had that gone in, then who knows what he could have gone on to do. And I know it was only Lincoln before any smart arse says "yeah, but it was only Lincoln"
Now that he has plenty of fellow Italians at the club, hopefully he can settle down, notch that first goal, tomorrow will do, and show us what he can really do.
68 Posted 10/01/2020 at 14:43:14
69 Posted 10/01/2020 at 14:43:16
70 Posted 10/01/2020 at 14:46:40
Jay @ 63, thanks again for the links, very encouraging, but the video of the equivalent fixture last year, showed some great and quick build-up play which was wasted by diabolical finishing.
I just hope and pray that Schneiderlin is nowhere near the first team or the bench for that matter, and is sent to Blackpool to spend the afternoon with the other donkeys. He may learn a trick or two from them that will help him at his next Club.
I know I will be accused of Schneiderlin bashing, so what? I feel I am not alone and stating what I believe to be the case, but most of our good play in the past has come when he has NOT been in the side. Coincidence or Conspiracy Theory?
71 Posted 10/01/2020 at 15:00:05
72 Posted 10/01/2020 at 15:00:41
Surely the most damning is that Sigurdsson passed back to Pickford more than he did all of the forwards combined. There was something similar for Schniederlin. Your man for this kind of stuff is David Hughes of the Liverpool Echo who posted a passing map highlighting this on twitter and in the Echo.
"it was very normal in Italy and that he himself would have no problem in speaking with them in such cases"
The Italian Ultras are far worse to their own sides than we could ever threaten to be. Ancelotti probably finds our fanbase very passionate, but tame. I'm sure he would have no problem whatsoever addressing angry fans, who would probably be very star struck and very respectful. I heard they were nothing but respectful towards Brands anyway.
Rob, regardless of whether we see him this season or not, the fact that he is ready to begin even the lightest of training is great news. This is the crucial part. If he is able to twist and turn without issue in the coming weeks, and has full range of movement, then he should make a full recovery, although there will be a period of worry when he begins full training and encounters contact with opponents. Fingers crossed for Andre.
Still no news of Jean Pierre Gbamin?
On the subject of using fitness knowledge from the Olympics, you must have short memories. We already got some American in to do just that, and he failed badly and was sent packing, all during the Walsh / Koeman era.
Team USA Olympic fitness guru
73 Posted 10/01/2020 at 15:05:10
Having said that hes been poor this season, although I think Sigurdsson has been worse, diabolical in fact.
74 Posted 10/01/2020 at 15:06:01
I agree with you on Gomes, Rob.
Better to get him right rather than rush him back too soon.
On Moise Kean not speaking English, I thought the same, so was pleasantly surprised to see and hear his post-match interview after the City game. This is a solid attempt at English.
Credit to the lad. A lot - especially his age - would insist on an interpreter and speaking his own language.
Derek @ 70. Like you, it appears, I also checked out the highlights on the club site from last season's 3-1 win over Brighton.
It features three memorable goals. The first, a wonderful breakaway after defending a Brighton corner, with Sigurdsson leading the charge out, interchanging well with Bernard before slipping in a delightful ball for Richarlison to hammer high into the net.
The second a low drilled scorcher from Seamus who, after scoring, made a point of cupping his ears to the crowd as he had been the recipient of some negative comments that he was no longer the player he was since his return from injury.
Then Richarlison picking up Dunk's wayward pass just inside the Brighton half, skinning Duffy and rounding the keeper to score a classy third.
More of the same on Saturday would be nice.
75 Posted 10/01/2020 at 15:11:19
I know such clips will be clipped to avoid giving too much away in the public domain, but it is interesting that mostly what we saw from Silva's sessions was tight control and passing in small spaces, whereas since Ancelotti arrived we now see more replications of actual game situations, such as the two strikers running in on goal at the start of the video, either opting to shoot or pass.
76 Posted 10/01/2020 at 15:13:46
Speaking of running, to heck with Kean -- the most hilarious running style on this club is Mina. He crouches over and gallops like a hyena, on his haunches. Has plenty of pace and always seems to get where he needs to go, but lordy, he looks funny getting there.
77 Posted 10/01/2020 at 15:14:07
The thing to remember with Kean is that he his mother is a French speaking African. This is evidenced by Brands handing her the shirt with the French term "Mami" on the back rather than Italian. I've do doubt that he speaks French to her. This would also mean that he can converse without too many issues with our French speakers. Communication should not be a problem for Kean.
78 Posted 10/01/2020 at 15:16:01
As for what they show, I've no doubt at all that it will be heavily guarded to give nothing away. I know that Silva liked to run automatons drills. These are rehearsals for set movements in game. Usually beginning with a midfielder having the ball deep and wingers and forwards being taught to perform set runs. Much like watching an American football team "run a play". This is designed to make the spontaneous actually be planned. I doubt that any coach other than Bielsa would be happy with this being disclosed. He's the one who pioneered this kind of training and there's endless examples of this on YouTube. I will watch carefully to see if Ancelotti is doing this or perhaps trying to fix some problems that have arisen in the last few games.
79 Posted 10/01/2020 at 15:17:56
80 Posted 10/01/2020 at 15:18:12
Let's hope that starts tomorrow, that is if he is on from the start. I think bearing all the situations you have already mentioned in mind, he needs to start, alongside DCL and Richarlison.
Coming on as sub with anything between 30 and 10 minutes to go, dependent on what the score is, is asking too much at this stage. Especially if we need a goal to win or draw. Heaven Forbid!
81 Posted 10/01/2020 at 15:19:22
82 Posted 10/01/2020 at 15:20:26
I do remember the 2 boards at either end of the rowing gym. One said: 'Remember, in the middle of the Boat Race, you can't get out and f***ing walk'! The other said: 'Every minute you're not training, there's some Russian bastard who is'! Perhaps we could have them [or something similar] put up at FF!
In Carlo, we trust!
83 Posted 10/01/2020 at 15:20:44
By the way, he's Jean-Philippe, not Jean Pierre.
84 Posted 10/01/2020 at 15:23:38
85 Posted 10/01/2020 at 15:26:47
86 Posted 10/01/2020 at 15:29:38
With regards to the ' brace ' I wasn't aware he was receiving orthodon'tal correction as well, would have thought he was a bit old for that! 🤩🤐
87 Posted 10/01/2020 at 15:34:32
We could do with a 'Jean-Pierre' as well , for spare parts.
88 Posted 10/01/2020 at 15:48:25
89 Posted 10/01/2020 at 15:58:24
The actual training - and you can read absolutely nothing from the snatched clips - does show Tom Davies at one point turning Siggy every which way before laying off a nice round-the-corner ball.
90 Posted 10/01/2020 at 16:09:59
“Gbamin is working alone in this moment during individual sessions. Same as Iwobi,” Ancelotti continued.
He's already back in some light training by the sounds of things.
91 Posted 10/01/2020 at 16:32:19
I am not defending the players but we all know there is a lack of mental toughness in this team and with the pressure of poor results, a number of changes of manager, playing with knocks to help the side out, coping with an unprecedented injury list and frustrated supporters this must all take its toll.
They may be physically fit but they are mentally drained.
Ancelotti has his work cut out to restore some belief and confidence and I hope supporters will be patient and supportive with the team he selects.
I know some will say poor dears on 100k a week or whatever but motivation and confidence are key to us finishing the season well and giving a platform to build on over the summer.
I always say players do not play badly deliberately but it was obvious some threw the towel in last Sunday and the management will know who they are and hopefully deal with it accordingly.
Brighton have a good first 11 and a good manager so wil not be easy in fact I wish we would have gone for Aaron Mooys on loan instead of the controversial Delph.
IMO Mooys is exactly what is lacking in our MF.
Lastly I would just like to say I like the look of Jamie Crowleys team.
Onwards and upwards (We hope) COYB.
92 Posted 10/01/2020 at 16:40:22
93 Posted 10/01/2020 at 16:44:29
I was beginning to think I was the only person on TW who thinks hell be a player and just needs patience.
Id also mention I think Iwobe has come in for dogs abuse, and I dont think hes near as bad as many make him out to be.
94 Posted 10/01/2020 at 16:45:09
95 Posted 10/01/2020 at 16:46:16
I had presumed they were now commonplace and that a PL club of Everton's standing would have one already in situ or available.
As Brian @ 92 says, I don't know if this has been addressed at Everton since Allardyce called attention to it.
I firmly believe a sports psychologist would be of huge benefit to the club, its players and the manager, whoever they and he may be.
96 Posted 10/01/2020 at 16:48:40
I think Kean's a star in the making. Just gotta be patient and keep the faith.
97 Posted 10/01/2020 at 17:04:05
Everton were tired at Anfield, especially mentally which comes on a lot quicker than physical tiredness, usually the minute something goes wrong!
The team is going to be very interesting tomorrow, I just hope Everton, start making the most out of what theyve got, instead of waiting for certain individuals to let us down once again.
98 Posted 10/01/2020 at 17:09:19
I'd like to see this form the basis of team selections for the rest of the season - no need for any tinkering with no cup games to worry about.
And Kean on the bench as our supersub. He's got to score soon and it's gonna be a worldie!
99 Posted 10/01/2020 at 17:15:25
i would be quite happy if CA went with the team set out above. Hopefully, tomorrow will be the start of the long road back!
100 Posted 10/01/2020 at 17:19:21
101 Posted 10/01/2020 at 17:35:01
Iwobi has not had much of a run in the middle (where I think he is best) but still has some our best creative stats from open play. He shows for the ball and is able to make things happen. In a team woefully short of creativity from open play he has been missed.
102 Posted 10/01/2020 at 17:38:31
103 Posted 10/01/2020 at 17:39:34
Defensively, and again, purely anecdotally, we were always strong on defending set plays under Moyes, but as the standards of personnel have declined since the likes of the imperious Lescott, Distin and Jags/Baines/ Coleman were at their peak, we have been very vulnerable to any form of set play, certainly since mid-term Martinez. Many goals against have been through very poor communication across the back four.
Tomorrow is going to be very tough: Brighton can vary their play a lot, Potter is beginning to develop a handy side there. It would be nice if we could see a similar "in your face" performance such as the Chelsea game, I am sure Carlo will have them motivated, but we will see if these players can cope with the pressure.
104 Posted 10/01/2020 at 17:39:50
Mike Gaynes - we literally agree, and have throughout TW history, on every single player that I can remember, sans one.
Now if I can just convince you of Tom Davies' worth to Everton, we'll be at 100% eye-to-eye ratio. 😉
105 Posted 10/01/2020 at 18:00:58
But I'm afraid we're not 100% otherwise, mate, because on the Tosun thread I strongly disagreed with you on the subject of Sidibe vs. Coleman/Kenny. I think Sidibe's the clear winner there.
106 Posted 10/01/2020 at 18:03:08
Just get to 40 points.
107 Posted 10/01/2020 at 18:03:56
I may be mixing things up with a popular ex-physiotherapist at the club who moved on in a purge under Roberto Martinez, but I have a memory (but no recall of the name) of him setting up on his own consultancy, including a website.
It was a very holistic, almost quasi-religious approach, as he wrote about spiritualism and personal well-being also.
I look forward to you providing the name to confirm or negate this Steve if this is the same guy I recall or not.
108 Posted 10/01/2020 at 18:04:08
109 Posted 10/01/2020 at 18:06:37
There have been a couple of attempted shots when the ball has been a little behind him and he has dragged both shots wide. One one occasion he didn't realise he had more time and on the other it was a poor pass to him and he was trying the impossible.
He is trying a little too hard, a bit like Tosun but there the comparison ends, as Kean has some pace and more physicality to his game.
He will also get a lot better if we are patient.
110 Posted 10/01/2020 at 18:06:37
I have posted on many (I was going to say numerous) threads that we should seek such a person out and have cited Steve Peters - British cycling, Chris Hoy, Victoria Pendleton and David Brailsford (cycling is my sport in case you wondered) among the beneficiaries of his expertise and testament to his methods - who was recruited by Liverpool about 7 or 8 years ago which (possibly coincidentally) aligns with the start of their current upsurge. A blind person could see the different mentalities between our two squads, not just this year but for some time now.
I am not sure if he still works with them but if we could find someone of that ilk to work on our player's mentality it would be a giant step in the right direction. I know nothing about our guy who you talk about - but knowing us he went off and did a night school course on sports psychology or something, and then headed back for the pay cheque?
Do you anything about the guy? You seem pretty well informed about most of our personnel but I would have thought we should be able to attract a pretty decent calibre person if we put a mind to it.
111 Posted 10/01/2020 at 18:18:55
113 Posted 10/01/2020 at 18:21:57
We All care about Everton, but there does seem to be certain well meaning posters who feel that they must prove they are the TOP Evertonians ever by ceaselessly providing readers with endless observations.This is TW...a really great place to give your opinion. I don't consider it to be an advice column. Like Jamie (93). Get to the point.
114 Posted 10/01/2020 at 18:22:31
Let's hope for a clean sheet and two or three goals to the good but I am going 1-1 this weekend.
115 Posted 10/01/2020 at 18:22:58
This is the official list of Everton staff: Link
The guy me and Jay were thinking of is: Link
John McKeown sounds like he should be our Sports Psychologist on that list but his linked in does not support such belief Link
Edit: fear not, it seems we do have one: Dr Martin Littlewood, this guy lists himself as such on Linked In where he says he has been working for Everton for 5.5 years which takes him back to the Summer of 2014, the summer after Martinez' good season. Link
116 Posted 10/01/2020 at 18:25:56
As you've been following Everton since 1947, you're "up vote" counts for 20 people. TY.
And your post is, I promise, the only time my posts have been described as succinct!
117 Posted 10/01/2020 at 18:33:59
Martin works for Leicester nowadays
118 Posted 10/01/2020 at 18:35:40
As for Iwobi Jamie, the more you watch him the quicker you will wise up to him, in my opinion.
119 Posted 10/01/2020 at 18:38:44
120 Posted 10/01/2020 at 18:40:00
121 Posted 10/01/2020 at 18:43:11
Dave #118, I just love his strength. Every ball he goes in for, he wins, and he enjoys knocking people around to do it.
122 Posted 10/01/2020 at 18:45:34
I like the look of Lyndon's line up but would give Richarlison a rest and put J-Lo up front with DCL
123 Posted 10/01/2020 at 18:50:09
When you say this Doctor has returned in a mental health capacity this is for the fans, yes?
After Sunday we need it more than they do.
124 Posted 10/01/2020 at 18:50:15
125 Posted 10/01/2020 at 18:51:20
You mean Jonas Lössl?
126 Posted 10/01/2020 at 18:56:34
127 Posted 10/01/2020 at 19:05:13
128 Posted 10/01/2020 at 19:06:21
Brian, someone mentions Kean has a big arse and next thing youre talking about JLo?
Kim, missed the bit about you being a cycling fan. Did you catch the documentary on the BBC about Steve Peters. There was commendation after commendation for his work. Vicky Pendleton came across as a very fragile girl, a bit of a nightmare and yet he helped her be a dominant force in female sprint cycling despite having a small stature, so yeah, he came across like a genius. Until we got to Sir Bradley, load of old crap he said. Its not Steve Cummings chimp, he said, its just Steve Cummings being a *expletive*. Typical Brad. Made me laugh.
Kim, if youre north west based and do road cycling and fancy a good ride and a natter about the blues en route, let me know. Im a keen cyclist myself.
129 Posted 10/01/2020 at 19:07:46
Messing aside - that sounds pretty half-cocked to me.
130 Posted 10/01/2020 at 19:44:40
Great to see Gomes on the way back, and Gbamin is doing individual training as well, both can't come back soon enough.
131 Posted 10/01/2020 at 20:10:51
I thought his dad was an ex-Scottish pro, but I had the name of Archie Knox running around my brain. A more diametrically opposed character than Walter Smith's former henchman and enforcer to the methods Danny Donachie espouses you couldn't imagine!
I wonder if Dr Martin Littlewood your edit listed is a kinda ad hoc basis, rather than full-time appointment, as his Linked-in page you linked to lists him as senior lecturer still at John Moores uni.
Interesting that he worked at Bolton Wanderers in the early 2000s when a certain Sam Allardyce was manager there.
Like Kim, I'm not convinced that Danny Donachie, as good as he well may be in his own field, is the kind of sports psychologist we could benefit most from.
132 Posted 10/01/2020 at 20:13:42
133 Posted 10/01/2020 at 20:16:54
134 Posted 10/01/2020 at 20:19:03
135 Posted 10/01/2020 at 20:23:33
If our Lecturer guy is doing one day a week, then that sounds like as much as Steve Peters could possibly offer Liverpool anyway.
It could also be, and Im speculating here, that the players might speak to the Doc over the phone. Maybe they go months without seeing him. Steve Peters spreads himself very thin so who knows.
As for the big Sam connection thats how I found him. Big Sam, as you said or someone else said, was bringing a guy in. Only his linked In shows he was working with us before then. 5.5 years takes him back to summer 2014 and Martinez.
As for Danny Donachie. Hes son of Willie, Royles right hand man.
136 Posted 10/01/2020 at 20:27:15
Regarding Iwobe, he doesn't hide.
I mentioned on another thread, my new barometer for, "should they play / start", is now, "do they hide?"
Iwobe, for some faults, will always show for the ball, and he turns and goes forward with it 9 times out of 10. Yes, he's prone to give it away. But he has played some sublime "through balls" I can recall, that people who vilify him are conveniently forgetting. He's also being played wide, and for me he's much more effective centrally.
Until our midfield is healthy, or we add quality via transfer to midfield, Iwobe will do for me. The alternatives just drive me nuts. And I only feel bad about disliking one midfielder - Gylfi Sigurdsson.
Gylfi's form has dropped off a cliff. But I've never seen him give anything but 100%. He hides now, but not intentionally. I just don't think he's quick enough to get himself into good positions. He's not slow, and he covers a lot of ground. But his quickness has abandoned him completely it seems this season.
There's a massive difference between speed and quickness (read dexterity / agility) for me. They're both equally important. Poor Gylfi just isn't the player he was last year. Not even close in fact. he was never lightning quick, and now he's slow as tar quick. I think this is the first attribute to go when you age.
My eyes, yours may vary.
137 Posted 10/01/2020 at 20:35:28
138 Posted 10/01/2020 at 21:05:30
I'm going to write and submit an article, about my perceived issues with the problems, issues, and positive points regards EFC hopefully when I have time next week.
I think focusing on the players, although logical, misses the point that the structure is wrong on the investment/recruitment side (A player is an asset, I.e. an investment) Secondly, Finch Farm complex, although a "facility boasting some of the finest training facilities in the world", we don't own it. Surely, to write off revenue costs a plan to purchase it back from LCC would be a good idea? Get the cost of the books,write if off in one year, and then from that point it is an asset.
I'm surprised as well at the lack of fitness, skills and data 'coaching' that is used by EFC... Anyway, that is for the article.
I've also kept my powder dry regards last Sunday. Although a disappointment, several positives have come from it, namely the players have shown that they bottle it in big games, all of them lack the top 2" under pressure, they lack basic skills in some areas, though maybe it was the pressure as they showed well against Burnley and NUFC.
The other thing, even though the Red Orcs played their U23 team in effect, man for man they were better. A very sad statement of truth. If we'd won that game, we'd have been plastering over HUGE cracks in our club. It also revealed, that even Carletto can be temporarily affected by 'analysis paralysis', which is why he took so long to change anything I believe.
He'll have had a shock that will hopefully gee him up too.
I think we need to be wary against BHA, as they'll be smarting from another 'upset', at the hands of the Owls. I also rate Potter, and indeed elsewhere (Beeb HYS and others) stated if we're going to recruit a domestic coach, Potter is our man.
For me the team should represent a 4-4-2 and balance to adapt.
J-Lo (or which ever keeper is rated as our #2 now?), Sidibe, Foulds, Digne, Richarlison, Adeniran, Walcott
This gives flexibility and pretty decent cover;
139 Posted 10/01/2020 at 21:11:01
Walcott is a headless chicken incapable of making good decisions but I bet he will be playing tomorrow.
Kean is 19 years old in a new country away from the familiar and trying to come to terms with this new situation. He will need a minimum of six and more likely 12 months before he starts to show us his best. However I would start to play him alongside DCL because they need to build what is likely to be a good partnership.
140 Posted 10/01/2020 at 21:15:24
141 Posted 10/01/2020 at 21:25:22
The (genuinely) inestimable Steve Ferns has at #115 included a link of Everton staff of director level and the like. If any one of us has trouble dropping off to sleep I recommend trying to read it through. We seem to employ enough of them to more than fill the Boys' Pen! Bizarre.
142 Posted 10/01/2020 at 21:26:28
Every year premier league teams push the boundaries and run further and further and further. Its not just total distance either. Players are sprinting more in games than ever before. Play is more and more condensed. Go watch an 80s game and youll see just how far apart the attack and defence is.
Last season Everton were third for distance covered and 5th for sprints. This season we were 5th in October. I cannot find up to date stats because Opta have them behind a pay wall.
The issue is lack of rotation. Our players are out of gas because of how much they have to run just to keep up with everyone else. If they did cross country runs with the great 80s side, do you really think the 80s side could keep up?
Honestly guys, fitness levels are going up and up and up.
143 Posted 10/01/2020 at 21:26:40
144 Posted 10/01/2020 at 21:27:15
145 Posted 10/01/2020 at 21:27:40
146 Posted 10/01/2020 at 21:35:02
Am I glad I'm not the only one to have noticed this.
We must have the most tackle shy players ever.
Iwobi, Schneiderlin and Walcott all of 'em back out of tackles. Sickens me!
147 Posted 10/01/2020 at 21:38:39
I'm going to start watching that closely with Iwobe. Appreciate your viewpoint.
I think a lot of what you describe could be seen live, and not on the television by me? (the bit about him pulling back when Digne bombs forward).
I'll keep an eye out for him pulling out of tackles (that's easy), and if he shits out when Digne goes forward - I think if I'm looking for that I'll be able to see it. Not all of it, but enough to know it's happening.
148 Posted 10/01/2020 at 21:38:39
149 Posted 10/01/2020 at 21:41:02
I think it was Brad Wiggins (might have been one of the others) said that one of the big changes that happened under the Dave Brailsford regime was a strong focus on ‘executing a plan that had been practiced at length - and not worrying about winning/losing. The effect was that riders did not arrive at the start line distracted/panicking about it being a big race/Olympic final etc - and underperforming.
Back to last Sunday. I think our players might benefit from being exposed to this sort of preparation (though a bit of fitness training wouldnt go amiss).
150 Posted 10/01/2020 at 21:46:42
Yeah, it makes sense that a sport psychologist wouldn't be sat around FF on a full-time contract, but only on a 'as-needed' basis.
I knew I was on the right lines with my thinking about young Donachie, thinking of an ex-Scottish pro and former assistant manager.
Just got me Willie mixed up with me Archie, so to speak.
I agree with you on the fitness issue also. It's not poor levels of physical fitness. It's the mental fitness which is flakier and needs addressing by bringing in some right narks who hate losing at anything.
We ain't got any.
151 Posted 10/01/2020 at 21:48:30
The players just, ahem, "soldier" on in their millionaire way.
152 Posted 10/01/2020 at 22:02:15
It resembles a hospital in a war zone. There's more medical professionals in there than coaching staff. All kind of shenanigans going on.
In the past, doping in football was just dismissed. People just said, well there's no drug to make you kick the ball better, pass it better, dribble better etc. But look at it now. The powers of recovery of "some" teams is astounding. To good to be true. Teams run faster, they run further, and they recover quicker. So, is there really no issues with doping in sport.
And those who have no idea of this kind of thing, this is what leading professionals do away from the club: Link
And if you did not relaise how prevalent this stuff is, this is what the "Love Island" generation do to get over a hangover: Link
153 Posted 10/01/2020 at 22:02:21
I'd rather see a Wisconsin jump around. Get Crowley flown over to initiate it. The guys easily crazy enough
154 Posted 10/01/2020 at 22:16:58
I remember in the 90s questions were asked about Juve seeming super human. There was eventually a mini scandal as it was found theyd been using creatin but if I recall correctly nothing happened because it wasnt technically banned and because UEFA and Serie A are in Agnellis pocket anyway
155 Posted 10/01/2020 at 22:22:32
156 Posted 10/01/2020 at 22:22:46
157 Posted 10/01/2020 at 22:26:15
I used to be into mountain biking a long time ago but found for some reason my right knee starting giving me gip so switched 100% to road (I think it must have been the geometry or something which caused the grief). Anyway I was a pretty keen club level time trialist down here for a while, 25s and 50s mainly, but have not done any racing for a few years now. Indeed it shows on my silhouette these days!
I did not see (I think) the documentary but followed closely the incredible success of Team GB, Sky, your aforementioned names et al under Brailsford (another hard bastard taskmaster - I wonder how he would get on in football) and Steve Peters. Wouldn't it be nice if we could have a metamorphosis like that
However - if I am up that way for a couple of days, the weather looks nice and your around and still up for it, I could chuck the bike in the car and take you up on the offer. Cheers for now, and here's to tomorrow and a decent win!
158 Posted 10/01/2020 at 22:30:32
Alan more than made up for his mistakes with a phenomimal workrate in game after game.
Currently we have few midfielders who consistently put that kind of effort into every game.
As mentioned we have Iwobi plus Davies and Holgate and Sidibe.
I am the first to admit that those players lack the ball skills of others for those places but each is young enough to develop further in that field.
On the other hand competitors for that role namely Siggy, Scneidy, the Oracle and Walcot can disapear for lengthy periods.
I do not think it wise to introduce youngsters into a side containing the above four dodgers.
I have visions of them exploding the lot of them simultaneously as with the Busby Babes.
Er' has the RS already stolen a march on us.
159 Posted 10/01/2020 at 22:31:28
160 Posted 10/01/2020 at 22:33:23
161 Posted 10/01/2020 at 22:34:41
162 Posted 10/01/2020 at 22:44:03
My racing was not particularly spectacular but it is a sport where age does not need to hold you back with handicapping systems and so on, and I was reasonably competitive at club level at the time. I had a an ex pro-racer Raleigh which I bought from a sponsored guy in Nottingham nicked last year (uninsured because it was in my carport where it was usually hidden behind an old TR6 but that was out for a run), when some toerag chancer had it away. About £1500 worth spunked off for about £50 down a pub somewhere probably so the shitehawk could get his daily snort or whatever. So back on my (now retro) Specialised. I'd love a Tarmac!
So we'll see what is occurring in the Summer. I'd like that.
163 Posted 10/01/2020 at 22:50:50
164 Posted 10/01/2020 at 23:00:06
165 Posted 10/01/2020 at 23:06:35
In data, just a visual perception, but also physical fatigue and mental fatigue, and lack of belief, like last Sunday are traits of Everton, the last 5 or 6 seasons, in my view.
Im likely miles off, but thats my visual perception.
The under 23s, last longer, but thats not as enduring at that level.
Carlo will change it hopefully.
166 Posted 10/01/2020 at 23:14:02
167 Posted 10/01/2020 at 23:14:35
And yep - Shoulders always take a hit, often from the bike itself. My old Spec'd is an Allez as well. MMC frame, campag group.
168 Posted 10/01/2020 at 23:21:52
169 Posted 10/01/2020 at 23:42:09
Anyway - enough of this. I thought this was a football forum.
170 Posted 10/01/2020 at 23:51:57
171 Posted 10/01/2020 at 00:00:57
172 Posted 11/01/2020 at 00:50:48
There might be an outside chance should the impossible happen and we can win every game starting tomorrow by at least 2 goals, but those days are long gone as is the 'pie in the sky' possibility of it happening is the stuff of a clearly demented mind, the sad fact is that the reality that we could be on the way out of the Premiership, and that might not be a bad thing.
173 Posted 11/01/2020 at 01:07:59
174 Posted 11/01/2020 at 01:17:39
As long as they play this version:
I think right after the siren it'd work a treat. I'd go apeshit. 😜
175 Posted 11/01/2020 at 01:35:25
My thoughts are - the whole squad's physical and mental fitness seems woeful.
Fixing the first is a little easier than fixing the second, but both require the will to change. Then once you've fixed the physical there will be mental benefits...not a compete 'cure' but an improvement.
Re. the' legs going'; sometimes it just happens, nowt to do, get rid.
Though you can at least try to compensate, by not giving up...a forlorn chase (Peter Reid's pursuit of Maradonna in Mexico for one) is better than no chase.
Nearer to home I remember Rooney passing Tom Davies...who could well see where the ball was going to end up - in the net) and running half the length of the field to at least try to stop the inevitable. OK, he was blowing for tugs at the end, but he tried.
It's the apparent lack of caring and effort that pisses people off, not being crap...just ask The Straq, one man who'll never have to buy his own beer in the Winslow.
176 Posted 11/01/2020 at 03:04:24
177 Posted 11/01/2020 at 06:40:34
178 Posted 11/01/2020 at 07:39:51
Morning, Derek. Haha The older I get, the faster I was.
179 Posted 11/01/2020 at 08:08:07
I'm worried about Coleman at RB. He's been so quiet of late. If Sidebe is fit I'd play him in his place with Seamus in mid-field as the breaker. I'd leave Schneiders and Sigs out of the squad and give Pickford a freekin' good talking too but play him. Accept Delph because, at least, he has some spunk about him.
At Goodison Bernard will give 100% and I have no doubt that Richie and DCL will do also. To me, Holgate looks more suited to the DM position than the CD role. He is not slow either, particularly compared to Michael Kean.
So my team selection would likely be
Sidebe Mina Baines
Coleman Holgate Bernard Davies
Richarlison DCL Moise
Bench: Walcott, Lossl, Niasse (to stir them up) and 3 youngsters
180 Posted 11/01/2020 at 08:26:06
Pickford, Sidibe, Mina, holgate, Digne, Davies, Gordon, Delph, Bernard, Keane, DCL
My worrying “more of the same” line up would be
Pickford, Coleman, Mina, holgate, baines, Sidibe, Delph, Davies, Sigurdsson, Walcott, Bernard, DCL
On another note, whats happened to Iwobi ?
182 Posted 11/01/2020 at 09:19:49
183 Posted 11/01/2020 at 09:38:09
Lucas Digne has created 46 chances in the Premier League this season. Among defenders, only Trent Alexander-Arnold has provided more.
Digne has contributed seven assists since the start of last season, more than any other Everton player.
I thought he had been having a fairly wretched time!
I would be interested on his defensive stats, if any are available.
184 Posted 11/01/2020 at 10:13:33
185 Posted 11/01/2020 at 10:42:20
186 Posted 11/01/2020 at 11:02:08
Isn't it a pity?
Now, isn't it a shame
How we break each other's hearts
And cause each other pain?
How we take each other's love
Without thinking anymore
Forgetting to give back
Isn't it a pity?
Some things take so long
But how do I explain
When not too many people
Can see we're all the same
And because of all their tears
Their eyes can't hope to see
The beauty that surrounds them
Isn't it a pity”
Forgiveness is one thing but accepting being let down continuously it another - - but with Ancelotti in place and Ferguson I firmly believe today is the catharsis - - time to draw a line and move on - - and thats not just up to us but also its up to Everton - - Management/Players and the whole gang of them - - have to - - cannot get stuck and wallow - - have to rub ourselves down - - get up and get ready - - I have a framed statement on my wall in my writing room written by a Great Evertonian
“Our greatest glory is not
In never falling but in
Rising every time we fall”
Confusius (Everton 62-63)
Just sitting getting some Beatles into my head:
“It's all too much, it's all too much
When I look into your eyes, your love is there for me
And the more I go inside, the more there is to see
It's all too much for me to take
The love that's shining all around you
Everywhere, it's what you make
For us to take, it's all too much
Floating down the stream of time, of life to life with me
Makes no difference where you are or where you'd like to be
It's all too much for me to take
The love that's shining all around here
All the world's a birthday cake
So take a piece but not too much
Set me on a silver sun, for I know that I'm free
Show me that I'm everywhere, and get me home for tea
It's all to much for me to see
A love that's shining all around here
The more I am, the less I know
And what I do is all too much
It's all too much for me to take
The love that's shining all around you
Everywhere, it's what you make
For us to take, it's all too much
It's too much, it's too much
Too much, too much, too much”
I am sitting at my desk surrounded by postcards and photos of all the people and things I love - - Gosia - - my family - - Yellow House - - Everton - - Klimt - - Michelangelo - - Vincent - - postcard of a rainbow over Glastonbury Tor - - Sunflowers - - Le Chat Noir - - Stonehenge Calendar - - King Arthur.
Have to go soon - - friends - - o when I get on the bus and go under the Might River I will wash away any anger from last week and come out onto Blessed Scotland Road washed - - refreshed and free from and pain - - ready for a new day - - a new start - - a new game.
How can my spirits lie dead and miserable when I have to walk along Scottie and Smith Street - - onto Wessie Road - - I am immediately lifted by my own thoughts and my soul and my spirt - - this time last year I missed games - - I was recovering from heart surgery and having radiotherapy treatment for cancer - - I was stopped from going to the game - - and how I missed it - - all of it - - when the things you love are taken from you - - then you know how much they are worth - - how much you love them - - just going to sit and close my eyes and listen to Van and then go - - Hydnford Street - -reminds me and recalls beautiful memories from Great Mersey Street in the 50s and 60s:
“Take me back, take me way, way, way back
On Hyndford Street
Where you could feel the silence at half past eleven
On long summer nights
As the wireless played Radio Luxembourg
And the voices whispered across Beechie River
In the quietness as we sank into restful slumber in the silence
And carried on dreaming, in God
And walks up Cherry Valley from North Road Bridge, railway line
On sunny summer afternoons
Picking apples from the side of the tracks
That spilled over from the gardens of the houses on Cyprus Avenue
Watching the moth catcher working the floodlights in the evenings
And meeting down by the pylons
Playing round Mrs. Kelly's lamp
Going out to Holywood on the bus
And walking from the end of the lines to the seaside
Stopping at Fusco's for ice cream
In the days before rock 'n' roll
Hyndford Street, Abetta Parade
Orangefield, St. Donard's Church
Sunday six-bells, and in between the silence there was conversation
And laughter, and music and singing, and shivers up the back of the neck
And tuning in to Luxembourg late at night
And jazz and blues records during the day
Also Debussy on the third program
Early mornings when contemplation was best
Going up the Castlereagh hills
And the cregagh glens in summer and coming back
To Hyndford Street, feeling wondrous and lit up inside
With a sense of everlasting life
And reading Mr. Jelly Roll and Big Bill Broonzy
And "Really The Blues" by "Mezz" Mezzrow
And "Dharma Bums" by Jack Kerouac
Over and over again
And voices echoing late at night over Beechie River
And it's always being now, and it's always being now
It's always now
Can you feel the silence?
On Hyndford Street where you could feel the silence
At half past eleven on long summer nights
As the wireless played Radio Luxembourg
And the voices whispered across Beechie River
And in the quietness we sank into restful slumber in silence
And carried on dreaming in God.”
I thought it was worth the full treatment - -all the lyrics - - close your eyes and think - - We Are Blues.
I send cosmic grooves and “posso” waves to all “The Bluetiful People”
Your friend - - George
187 Posted 11/01/2020 at 11:04:42
Coleman, Mina, Keane, Baines,
Sidibe, Davies, Holgate,
Richo, Kean, Bernard.
with a couple of kids plus DCL on the bench.
188 Posted 11/01/2020 at 11:08:23
189 Posted 11/01/2020 at 11:18:32
190 Posted 11/01/2020 at 11:19:17
Now I am sure there will be quite a few in Goodison today, who will not hold back with their views if things don't start well today. But as humiliated and frustrated as we all feel, I don't think taking that frustration to the game today will do us any good. Duncan Ferguson according to some reports let the players know what his feelings were after the game on Sunday, and Carlo Ancelotti took the unusual step of speaking to the players after the game, something he never does. That added to the fact that some of our supporters turned up at Finch Farm to let the players hear directly from the fans and Marcel Brands took them inside Finch Farm to speak to them.
So these players will be very aware of the feeling running through the fan base. So what is needed today is if you cant cheer them onto the pitch which is understandable then once the game starts for 90 minutes we have to forget about last Sundays game and back this team to pick up 3 points and start the healing process. Because I believe if we let the atmosphere be toxic it could mean we draw or lose today and will make Ancelotti,s job so much harder going forward in 2 respects. Firstly it will make his job of trying to motivate this group much harder and if we drop further down the league trying to attract the players Ancelotti will need will become much harder.
So I hope today our fans look at the bigger picture, in that we need this group to pick up enough points to make us safe, then come next season I suspect those players who have annoyed our fan base will have left the club, so a win win situation. Then let our world class manager get on with his job with the backing of our magnificent supporters.
191 Posted 11/01/2020 at 11:35:19
Schneiderlin, Siggi, Davies, Delph, Gomes to name a few are all very pedestrian.
192 Posted 11/01/2020 at 12:10:51
Thats got to be a good bet isn't it!
193 Posted 11/01/2020 at 12:34:41
194 Posted 11/01/2020 at 12:36:17
Brilliant George, I love your Everton spirit, and think we need to make a flag out of (Everton62-63) because that is what us Evertonians, are great at, taking it on the chin, and never giving in. Come on you fucking blue boys, I cant wait for the team now, and hope the team selection allows me to go inside old and beautiful dilapidated Goodison Pk.
195 Posted 11/01/2020 at 12:43:31
I'm not so naive as to think he 100% penned the words himself, but he talks up the positivity of the league results under both Duncan and himself and is very honest in his appraisal of the two defeats to City and Liverpool.
It reads as a rallying cry to get the faithful onside ahead of the game v Brighton today.
196 Posted 11/01/2020 at 12:47:54
197 Posted 11/01/2020 at 12:47:56
Everton 2 Hove and Brighton Albion 0
198 Posted 11/01/2020 at 12:54:58
Just as well Peter Reid was never asked to participate in such tests, or Roy Dwight or Beckenbaur wearing a sling.
199 Posted 11/01/2020 at 13:01:56
Some nice words - I hope the rallying cry is heard by the players too
200 Posted 11/01/2020 at 13:17:38
201 Posted 11/01/2020 at 13:17:55
Enjoy the game blues.
202 Posted 11/01/2020 at 13:18:48
So we start again at three oclock, onwards and upwards,so 4-0 it is today. GodBless George.
203 Posted 11/01/2020 at 13:20:10
204 Posted 11/01/2020 at 13:20:45
I do genuinely believe that with Carlo and Duncan at the helm, we will, not only improve (not hard) but eventually get back to where we believe we ought to be.
Team selection will tell us many things really, that they will not tolerate lack of effort, or putting up with overpaid players going through the motions with zero passion or concern for the badge or the fans.
Come on Blues play out of your skins and show us and the rest of the World we mean business! 💙
205 Posted 11/01/2020 at 13:54:17
George@186: Great post. I reckon King Arthur was an Evertonian.
206 Posted 11/01/2020 at 14:30:20
207 Posted 11/01/2020 at 14:53:32
208 Posted 11/01/2020 at 14:56:06
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