Doubts cast over Barcelona offer for Richarlison

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A report that Barcelona have lodged an offer of €100m for Richarlison is being played down by sources close to both clubs.

Sky Sports have claimed that Everton rejected what would have been an opening bid by Barça (equating to roughly £85m) for the 22-year-old who is into double figures for goals for the second season running at Goodison Park.

However, MailSport say that the dismissal of the talk from Everton has been emphatic while Paddy Boyland of The Athletic has tweeted that contacts at both clubs have poured cold water on the report.

The Brazilian star has been mentioned as a potential target for the Spanish giants in recent months but while Barcelona apparently made tentative inquiries about his availability last summer, there had been no reports of imminent interest from the Nou Camp in acquiring his services until today.

Richarlison is also an established Brazil international and is viewed as a star for the future given his relatively young age. Barcelona are believed to be looking for striking reinforcements in the wake of Luis Suarez's injury and recently failed in an attempt to sign Rodrigo from Valencia.

Everton paid a fee that will end up being in the region of £40m to acquire him from Watford in 2018 and it is thought that the club value him in excess of £100m.  


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Soren Moyer
1 Posted 29/01/2020 at 17:52:06
Lol. Doubt it very much. However, If it turns out to be credible, I'd swap him with Griezman!
Brian Wilkinson
3 Posted 29/01/2020 at 17:54:24
Not suprised, nowhere near his valuation.

On another note and I am sure some posters with knowledge with ffp, could we not do a Barcelona, sell him for £50 Million, with a buy back clause for the same amount, bring Soares in for £30 Million, then when Niasse, Martina, Tosun and hopefully a few others off our wage bill, we could buy him back next year.

David Thomas
4 Posted 29/01/2020 at 17:54:53
He's our best player by a country mile. Don't sell at any cost.
John Pickles
5 Posted 29/01/2020 at 17:55:01
They can have all the others, job lot, for £85 though.
Mike Oates
6 Posted 29/01/2020 at 17:56:07
Unfortunately it was always on the cards that a TRUE biggie would come along with a big bid. Hope it doesn't turn his head, but its probably a path for Champions League and at least £200k+ a week.

Been rejected but a bit like Gueye, they will come back, in the summer if they fail now. Will cure our issue with Uefa's financial constraints system !!

Ian Edwards
7 Posted 29/01/2020 at 17:57:10
£85m??? Snatch their hands off. He's not worth half that. We could buy 2 or 3 quality players with that.
Richard Mason
8 Posted 29/01/2020 at 17:58:04
Everton have rejected bid, and reported that they are nowhere near breaking FFP.
I can see us bringing in one or two now, why else say it??
Alan Johnson
9 Posted 29/01/2020 at 17:59:49
This is a bolt from the BLUE. Take it. It'll solve all this ffp nonsense. Then we can start again with sensible recruitment.

Ray Roche
10 Posted 29/01/2020 at 18:00:37
If Barça want you it's difficult to say no. Even the shite had to allow Rat Boy to leave. If they want him I'm afraid we are going to have to screw the most money we can out of them, unless they can cobble up a player plus cash deal.
Graham Hammond
11 Posted 29/01/2020 at 18:03:03
£120M possibly but not a penny less. He is our best player by a country mile as David Thomas rightly says. Look what happened when we sold Gana Gueye without an adequate replacement. Still never replaced Lukaku either. On balance, we need to finally show some balls and finally show some ambition, keep the lad, I do not hold much hope though.
Shane Corcoran
12 Posted 29/01/2020 at 18:07:27
Hold out for 95m stg in the summer.
Eddie Dunn
13 Posted 29/01/2020 at 18:11:19
If this is true, then the clubs involved knew about it for some time. We have had quite a few dealings with Barca in recent years so coms are probably relatively straightforward. It makes me wonder about the timing.
Very handy for our club to sell late in the window and have no chance to spend any money so late.
If this had happened earlier, we would have been under pressure to buy a replacement.
On the other hand, we may have a couple of deals on the back-burner and not wanted anyone getting wind of this, or our sellers will bump up the prices knowing what we are getting for Richi.
We lost Lukaku, Gueye and without European footy, we are bound to lose Richi.
Alan Johnson
14 Posted 29/01/2020 at 18:11:37
I said on a thread last week when Richarlison and Sigurdsson didn't play that this could've been contrived. Let's hope a bid comes in for Sigurdsson...
Steve Ferns
15 Posted 29/01/2020 at 18:11:50
I really like the kid. I hope he stays. But if he wants to go, you can't really stop him. We have to hold out for £100m though.

Also, cant Gomes, Digne and Mina tell him how dreams can become a nightmare and he's best staying put?

Mike Gaynes
16 Posted 29/01/2020 at 18:12:16
Wow. Not surprised at the interest but certainly surprised at the size of the opening bid -- Barca is clearly trying to turn his head. And as Ray says, it's hard for a player to say no to those blaugranastripes, not to mention the opportunity to slot away a few dozen goals from Messi passes.

I'd like to see us keep him one more season, because his value will only skyrocket, but under the current circumstances a stronger bid in the summer might be too much for Brands to resist.

Mike Gaynes
18 Posted 29/01/2020 at 18:19:17
Steve #15, the thing is, he might not be best off staying put. There's a Ratboy-sized hole in the Barca front line. Neymar ain't coming back, Dembele hasn't worked out very well, Fati is only 17, and they just gave up on Perez this week and shipped him to Roma. So Rich would have had a chance to step right in this weekend, if Everton had accepted the bid.

Rich isn't Deulofeu. He'd make it there.

David Pearl
19 Posted 29/01/2020 at 18:19:31
We had Digne, Mina and Gomes for what... £60M ish?
Would we swap him plus £25m for them 3, yes we would.

He won't be sold now I'm almost certain. Next summer... if he finishes the year off with a few goals and good attitude then probably, l can see him going. He'd double his wages, be playing CL. Of course he'd miss the rain and the pies but he will go if they are still in for him.

If you want to progress you keep your best players. I don't know if he is our best by a country mile... he could be, and that would be shame if we don't have him in his prime.

The redshite have proven that you can sell your best players and come back even stronger. However, we are Everton and that needs no further comment...

Paul Jones
20 Posted 29/01/2020 at 18:20:02
Every player has a price so if met then likely to go. In the past we would bank an asset when time was out to find a replacement. Like a lot of South American footballers probably has no say in the matter if agent is agitating for move. What happens will be a good indication of the future intentions of the clubs owners.
Paul Dewhurst
21 Posted 29/01/2020 at 18:22:46
They paid £140m for countiho they would have to double the bid, Richi is more important to us that he was for Liverpool at the time.

£85m would buy us three quality players Bollocks! Average players are £40m

Les Moorcroft
22 Posted 29/01/2020 at 18:30:24
Ask our manager if we give the sale price to you what could he bring in with it.

If he could attract better let him go for 𧴜 million.
John Davies
23 Posted 29/01/2020 at 18:31:25
We CANNOT let him go. He's our best forward by a country mile & a vital player in anything that Ancelotti wants to do in the future. Who on earth would we replace him with?
Barcelona may come back with an improved offer and one day we might have to let him go (he and his agent might force it and you couldn't blame them if they did) but that cannot possibly be this season. Hope it's never.
Duncan McDine
24 Posted 29/01/2020 at 18:32:28
As much as we all love Everton, we can't expect a talented young lad from Brazil to have a massive amount of loyalty towards us when the likes of Barca come knocking. My biggest problem would be trusting Brands to use the money wisely. I also wonder if Watford had any kind of sell on clause (Would've been silly not to) - that could well equate to a big chunk of the fee received if we do sell.
Steve Ferns
25 Posted 29/01/2020 at 18:32:52
Mike, the Barça fans on Twitter say Barca can not afford £85m, is this true?

If so, it's probably £85m worth of players from the Barça bargain bin, ie the likes of Rakitic.

If it is players, I'd insist on Dembele in part exchange (he wants out).

The thing is, for Barça, where would this leave Ansu Fati? He looks sensational. Surely Barcelona need a number 9, not a left forward?

John Hammond
26 Posted 29/01/2020 at 18:38:08
Barca just buttering him up for a proper attempt at getting him in the summer
John Mckay
27 Posted 29/01/2020 at 18:40:00
We've got absolutely no chance of signing a player of his calibre at the moment so I would say keep him, he got 5years remaining on his contract he just signed, his value will only go up.

If we was struggling for cash and had some decent players lined up then I would say £85m is a good price for someone we paid half that for 2years ago.

Like I said pointless cashing in on him unless someone or similar quality is coming in. I'd take £100m if we can get zaha in for around £60m but Zaha hasn't been the same player this year I don't think and maybe that ship has sailed.

Can we not stick Niasse in a Richarlison shirt and send him over instead?

Rudi Coote
28 Posted 29/01/2020 at 18:40:30
Take it. He's been turned and won't be the same player. Cash in.
Tony Abrahams
29 Posted 29/01/2020 at 18:42:01
It seems to me that Barca like or even need a Brazilian in their squad for commercial reasons so £120 million might just do it because of the fine relationship that exists between us!
Mike Gaynes
30 Posted 29/01/2020 at 18:44:29
Steve #25, yep, Barca are skint at the moment (thus the silly rumors about players like Vela, Giroud and Tadic), but they always seem to find a way, don't they? Who knows, maybe a package involving Rakitic and Dembele could get the job done.

Yes, Fati is brilliant, but he's 17 and skinnier than a bird feeder. No way he can stand up to the pounding of a full-time schedule. And he, Greizmann and Messi are currently Barca's only healthy forwards. They're desperate.

Steve Shave
31 Posted 29/01/2020 at 18:44:44
Inevitable- I want to keep him, so talented and with great players around him he will soar in my view. We need more than this though for our best player, given our relationship with them it's not out of the question to ask for this plus Tolido (sp?) the bright young CB on their books plus a 6 month Rakitic loan or Vidal? They are desperate for a striker. Probably wont happen till the summer but if we could do the above business and bring in Everton Soares it could solve alot of problems for both teams who seem to have a good relationship, it wouldn't surprise me if we have given them first refusal on him tied into the Gomes deal, 21M always seemed cheap in today's market.
Steve Ferns
32 Posted 29/01/2020 at 18:45:09
Aren't Barca looking everywhere due to injury to Suarez? Isn't it feared that he might not come back the same player.

If they don't land Richi, they are likely to move on and sign someone else, and so not come back in the summer.

Jonathan Tasker
33 Posted 29/01/2020 at 18:45:56
News deliberately leaked by Kenwright

Make no mistake the plan is to sell him

Follows on from

Rooney
Arteta
Barkley
Lescott
Stones
Gueye
Lukaku

Joe McMahon
34 Posted 29/01/2020 at 18:46:30
85 million can nearly get 3 diamond such as Sigurdsson, Michael Keane; Tosun. Add Klasson and theres well over 100 million for you. I haven't even mentioned Bollasie. I'd rather we keep him.
Gavin Johnson
35 Posted 29/01/2020 at 18:50:39
We don't need to sell and I don't see us selling him unless he asks to leave and Barca pay in excess of 𧴜m. If we did sell It'd be good business if we then bought Richarlison's compatriot, Everton for 㿅m
Mike Benjamin
36 Posted 29/01/2020 at 18:51:08
Eventually he will go, that's football but in 18 months time where we will be fending off bids of £150m. If the Barca bid is true (enough said as it's reported by Sky) then that is just bottom of what will come.
Richard Mason
37 Posted 29/01/2020 at 18:52:12
We will probably sell, bring in the Brazilian Everton, a centre mid and a centre back. Then play DCL up top with Kean
Mike Gaynes
38 Posted 29/01/2020 at 18:53:04
Steve #32, yes, they're trying to get ahead of the curve on Suarez. He's been playing brilliantly, but at 33 and with over 700 games in the bank, he's showing the mileage. And that knee is pretty bad.
Fran Mitchell
39 Posted 29/01/2020 at 18:53:19
Interesting at how many are willing to sell at the sound of dollar.

So sad. Would Liverpool fans be made up if Mane or Salah were targeted? Or Utd fans with Rashford? Or Spurs with Kane? No.

No way should be sell. He's our best player, still young and only going to get better. After the World Cup in Qatar this guy Will be one of the top forward players in the world, playing for one of the favourites. And some of our fans are quite happy to sell. Unbelievable.

Phil Greenough
40 Posted 29/01/2020 at 18:57:42
For all the negative opinion about selling, Richi, Everton probably won't have a choice in the matter. He wants to play for the best in the world and that ain't us.

We've got to trust Ancelloti to get the very best price for him and spend the money wisely. The saving grace in all this is, we've got the upper hand.

Richard Mason
41 Posted 29/01/2020 at 18:58:32
Fran, I don't think everyone wants to sell, I think what they are saying is, if he wants to go Everton will sell.
Alex Carew
42 Posted 29/01/2020 at 18:58:50
I wonder if Merson would think this spoilt the window or is in full approval?
Jim Burns
43 Posted 29/01/2020 at 19:02:55
Why do some feel the need to constantly reference the RS in almost any comparative context - in this case transfer strategy. Can we please stop it - they are of zero relevance on here unless we happen to be playing them this week.
Paul Birmingham
44 Posted 29/01/2020 at 19:04:47
Why sell our best player, and the perpetual rebuilding site which is EFC, starts again.

Great for the lad if it's true, but the grass ain't always greener, look at Coutinho..maybe it will drive him to play even better. Let's hope so starting this Saturday, and his first hat Rick for EFC.

If EFC, does have genuine intentions, to develop a top team, then keep Charlie, try and get Allan.

I doubt we'll get any one now whose a proven talent, but in Carlo we trust.

Hopefully we may be able to offload some of the deadwood, with a bit of luck.

The learning from pot shotting transfer buys under the Clogg, has a negative long term impact to EFC.

Lessons learnt surely, by the EFC, board?

Graham Hammond
45 Posted 29/01/2020 at 19:05:55
I would not trust Brands to spend the money wisely. Richarlison was a Silva player so credit due to him on that one. Had we bought players in the past with more strength, pace, footballing intelligence, desire, athleticism and better resale potential then we would not have to be the selling club that we are or at least not to the same degree.
Robert Tressell
46 Posted 29/01/2020 at 19:06:04
Richarlison could be a v good, v mobile number 9 at Barca. An ideal replacement for the fading Suarez. Not convinced they can afford £100m right now and there should be other bidders too - athletico, bayern etc. We should hang on add a few similarly hungry young players to the mix and if we do sell, have a replacement already in squad, groomed and ready
Colin Glassar
47 Posted 29/01/2020 at 19:07:04
Cheeky sods. I hope Marcel and Carlo told them to bugger off!

I'd take 60m plus Messi.

Chris Leyland
48 Posted 29/01/2020 at 19:11:40
He will be gone in next 12 months. We are a selling club and have been for getting on 50 years. From Alan Ball to Arsenal, Lineker to Barca, Gary Stevens and Trevor Steven go Rangers, Ferguson to Newcastle, Arteta to Arsenal, Rooney to Utd, Stones to City, Lukaku to Utd, we will sell them.
Neal Kernohan
49 Posted 29/01/2020 at 19:12:12
I wish someone would come in with an offer of £18 quid for me, I am skint after the Christmas holidays! Might pay the electric for 2 weeks
Tommy Carter
50 Posted 29/01/2020 at 19:12:31
Someone on here, I forget who was trying to tell me that Ashley Barnes was a better player than Richarlison and would score more goals this season.

Perhaps Barcelona will go for Barnes

Brian Williams
51 Posted 29/01/2020 at 19:13:11
For those questioning his value, Man Utd paid £80m for Harry Maguire ffs!
Duncan McDine
52 Posted 29/01/2020 at 19:13:29
Good shout Colin. I've heard he's a decent prospect
Neal Kernohan
53 Posted 29/01/2020 at 19:20:09
If you guys think this is a problem...I am a high school teacher who has been warned by my Principal that I am not allowed to shout anymore lol
Colin Glassar
54 Posted 29/01/2020 at 19:25:46
Just think of all the lawnmowers and plassie chairs BK could buy for the new stadium with this kind of money?
Martin Berry
56 Posted 29/01/2020 at 19:32:26
There is no doubt that if Richarlison continues to improve, then the big fish will offer big money so we had better get used to this every transfer window.
It shows the importance of good scouting and buying young talent with sell on value to soften the blow-should it happen.
Anthony A Hughes
57 Posted 29/01/2020 at 19:35:42
Mmm.. 100 milion down payment on the stadium..
Gordon Crawford
58 Posted 29/01/2020 at 19:45:00
This could really unsettle him. That's not what we needed right now.
Tony Everan
59 Posted 29/01/2020 at 19:55:38
There's goals in Richie, from head and feet, he's 22, he is a natural athlete, it's a great thing Barca want him. It means he is successful for us and improving.

He is a perfect compliment for DCL too, they have both improved for it. If we want top 4 this partnership needs to fully blossom at ages 23-26. We can get Champions League football and trophies if these two continue to flourish at Everton along with Moise Kean , Mason Holgate , JJK , and Tom ( if he literally ‘pulls his socks up ‘) . I think Tony Gordon will step up too as a permanent me of the above club.

It's a perfect storm for us of potential being realised right before our eyes. I want to see the blossoms on the trees and not a fallow field.

At board room level these partnerships should be locked in policy wise. They are key to the immediate and medium term future of the club.

Robert Tressell
60 Posted 29/01/2020 at 19:57:25
Totally right Martin. That's why the next signings must be the right age and profile. It's the only way we can grow
Christy Ring
61 Posted 29/01/2020 at 19:57:41
Since Barca sold us Digne, Mina and Gomes, a bit of decorum wouldn't go astray, and give them Niasse to replace Suarez, they'd be unbeatable with a front line of Messi, Niasse, Griezmann.
Liam Reilly
62 Posted 29/01/2020 at 20:00:47
Both clubs have distanced themselves from this nonsense.

He's just signed a new contract and the Club ave no need or desire to sell.

Good because he's quality and by far our best player.

Tony McNulty
63 Posted 29/01/2020 at 20:05:34
So many of these stories are planted by the press and agents.

It would be an interesting topic for a thesis for someone to track these stories and see what percentage actually occur.

I am sure some patterns could be found linking certain agents, clubs, journalists, newspapers etc.

We already know some of the factors in play: players going on international duty used to provide the Fergusons of this world with an opportunity to get some of his players to tell other players how much he admired them, and then report back on any reaction.

I recall how many of us had mixed feelings the moment Wayne Rooney went off to join England and their players. We were all absolutely sure no-one ever discussed his future away from Everton during these jaunts

chris williams
64 Posted 29/01/2020 at 20:08:09
Not to mention Skybet Tony
Roger Helm
65 Posted 29/01/2020 at 20:10:09
These days it all seems to be what the player wants and who wouldn't want to live in Barcelona and play with Messi? Liverpool, Spurs and other top clubs often lose their best players in this way, the difference is they sign good replacements and we don't.

However, at his age and with the length of his contract we can play hardball for another season or even two. Keep him as long as possible!

Nathan Ford
66 Posted 29/01/2020 at 20:11:03
If they up offer to 100m + I don't think we can refuse as a club financially it's to high to turn down and the boys head will be turned. We need to make sure we get the best deal possible I'd hold out for 100m and rakatic invest 30m on someone like piatek from ac Milan before he goes to Hertha berlin.
Tony McNulty
67 Posted 29/01/2020 at 20:11:26
Indeed Chris (64),

The spark and sounds of axes being ground married to parochial self-interest.

Laurie Hartley
68 Posted 29/01/2020 at 20:22:32
RIcharlison is a fantastic player at 22, imagine what he will be like at 25. I dream of the day when Ancelloti lines us up with a front three of RIcharlison, DCL, and Kean.

If we are serious about getting back into the big time we must find a way to keep him.

Ray Roche
69 Posted 29/01/2020 at 20:36:26
Jonathan, yes, Everton sold all the players on your list. And everyone of them asked to go.
Steven Astley
70 Posted 29/01/2020 at 20:44:40
Makes Paul Merson look an even bigger wanker!
James Stewart
71 Posted 29/01/2020 at 21:00:31
@33 I wouldn't be surprised.

If we sell Richarlison though we may as well just all pack up and go home.

It's bad enough we haven't added to an embarrassingly poor squad in this window, but to sell our best player into the bargain as well would be the final straw for me.

Karl Meighan
72 Posted 29/01/2020 at 21:10:35
He is one of not many that I would like to keep, it would all depend on how the money was spent.

There aint many stand out players that are available to us.

A playee like Richarlison costing 100m shows how difficult it is to bring in the right players as he is nowhere near a complete player.

Brian Harrison
73 Posted 29/01/2020 at 21:17:33
I think it was widely publicized that before Ancelotti signed he said he wanted to make sure that neither Richarlison or Digne was sold. I am sure having just signed a new contract we hold all the aces and if Ancelotti says he stays then he stays. I think a couple of outlets are saying this is not happening, so nothing to worry about.

Now if there is genuine interest from Barca and Richarlison wanted to go, and we all know the pull Barcelona have for Brazilians. Provided Ancelotti was happy to let him go in the summer then seeing as Barcelona paid £145 million for Courtinho then for a young gifted striker like Richarlison we have to be talking in excess of that figure.

Christy Ring
74 Posted 29/01/2020 at 21:38:58
Richarlison is our top player and always gives 100%, as others have said if we want to get to the next level, we can't sell our best players. What I don't understand, why didn't we do the same with Gueye? He still had over 2 years on his contract
Simon Harrison
75 Posted 29/01/2020 at 21:48:46
I just posted this on another thread;

If we do allow Richi to for £85m, it may not be this window as many other have pointed out. Probably preemptive for the summer window. HOwever, I'd humbly suggest we hold out for £100m plus!

Also, this may give legs to the Everton Soares (LS attacker) story. Sell Richi for £85m,working on the lower figure, buy Soares for £25m, and keep £60m in the bank to offset the £30m credit we are going to lose in the P&S count for Y3 where we had a £30m credit, rather than debits and losses.

Still leaves us with £30m to spend, and when the players who leave in the summer go, their wages gives us enough wriggle room, to bring in one or two more quality players. Plus, hopefully, we'll have Gomes and Gbamin back to, oh and Beni.

Slowly build the foundations now, for the future.

I wouldn't mind swapping Richi for Soares, and bank some cash for the future.

Oliver Molloy
76 Posted 29/01/2020 at 21:55:14
It is very simple is it not ?
If Richarlison wants to leave then we all know he will get his wish, however this practise of selling our best player has been going on for as long as we all can remember and if our owner is serious about ever challenging for CL then this has to stop.

How do you convince your best players to stay at a club like us would be very difficult to say the least.
I believe Real Madrid, PSG or Man City will be ahead of Barcelona when the time comes, hopefully not for a season or two.

Andy Crooks
77 Posted 29/01/2020 at 21:56:16
Doubts Cast? What a non story.
Tom Bowers
78 Posted 29/01/2020 at 22:04:36
You cannot prevent players leaving if they want.
Obviously the clubs buying have to pay big time to get players out of their contracts.
When the bigger clubs come in players heads are turned and you have to let them go because they will never be the same.
We saw it with the likes of Rooney, Lukaku and now Richarlison is a target.
Since the sixties it's always been about big money through advertising and television and there is very little loyalty by the players and who can blame them. Their careers can be quite short in the big time especially when they get a serious injury.
No club has suffered more that Southampton who have had to lose so many players to bigger clubs in recent years.
Robert Tressell
79 Posted 29/01/2020 at 22:25:57
As an aside, does the sale of bruno fernandes leave Sporting in need of someone to come up with goals? Someone to take pot shots from the edge of the D? The stage is set to send Gylfi to Lisbon. Does anyone know if he's mates with Bolasie?
Mike Doyle
80 Posted 29/01/2020 at 22:29:32
If Richi continues to improve and score more (for us and Brazil) it's inevitable the bids will come - and he'll go.
We need to take the same approach Liverpool did with Coutinho - set the price and stick with it.
When Coutinho left he was Liverpool's best player and I (plus a few reds I know) thought they would struggle to replace him. Sadly History tells Us a different story.
Brian Williams
81 Posted 29/01/2020 at 22:31:54
A Sky generated story to liven up an otherwise boring as fuck transfer window!
Christy Ring
82 Posted 29/01/2020 at 22:38:37
Some comments on here, sell him for £100m, make a profit, but we replace him with an inferior player, who's club will add at least £20m, to his value, because of the money we received. No thanks.
Jerome Shields
83 Posted 29/01/2020 at 22:47:55
Another silly season transfer story.
James Newcombe
84 Posted 29/01/2020 at 23:14:07
It does make me laugh that we have a forward who plays for Brazil, scores goals, works his arse off, and at 22 has many good years ahead of him... and still some fans moan he's not good enough!
Mike Gaynes
85 Posted 29/01/2020 at 23:43:13
James #84, me too.

Christy #74, because he wanted to realize his CL dream and had been promised he could -- and he earned it with superior play. He kept up his end, and so did the club.

Sam Hoare
86 Posted 29/01/2020 at 23:50:23
Nonsense. Sky are the worst for made up rumours. And in general in fact.

Looking like a quiet window. Think there's been a few decent deals to be done; Palacios and Bergwijn are two players who could have helped us a fair bit but guess Brands is keeping his powder dry till the summer.

Bill Gienapp
87 Posted 29/01/2020 at 23:50:53
Ian (7) - not worth half that?? You honestly think Richarlison is worth less than 42-million in today's market? I'm glad you're not doing the negotiating.
Mike Gaynes
88 Posted 30/01/2020 at 00:09:44
Sam, Bergwijn seems a bit overpriced to me at £27 million. Not all that productive in a free-scoring league, albeit he's only 22.
Derek Thomas
89 Posted 30/01/2020 at 00:28:51
We have previous form for...not a penny under '£ whatever'...then selling for the first offer.

We are serial offenders for selling and no replacement.

Would you bet your house against it? - No, of course not.

United find a decent DoF and Coach, I could see DCL going too.

As to Club policy, I wonder what Ancelotti was told?...we all know how it goes, sing along, all together now...'Money can't buy you Stones'

Bob Parrington
90 Posted 30/01/2020 at 00:33:02
Recall the sudden new contract he signed with Everton a month or so ago? There had already been muted media talk about possible interest for Man U during the previous 3 months.

At the time of announcement of the new contract, like most Twebbers, I started to question the 'why' of this early renewal. Maybe, just maybe, this was all a part of setting up Everton's negotiation strength? Perhaps there had been some interest received from the likes of Barca?
(Conspiracy theory one!)

Steve Brown
91 Posted 30/01/2020 at 02:18:06
You don't hire a manager like Ancelotti then sell players he wants to retain. He will decide on this. Charley is a regular 10 goals 5 assists as season guy, so selling him would make us even more toothless than we already are!

Charley has also just signed a new 5 year deal which may have an agreed future transfer fee - it would definitely be more than £100 million given his age and the number of internationals he has already played.

If Barca are skint and shopping on the pound store, let's offer Schneiderlin. They can have him for a pint of lager and a packet of crisps.

Bob Parrington
92 Posted 30/01/2020 at 02:45:35
Not so sure we should include the crisps in the first offer, though, Steve.
Alan J Thompson
93 Posted 30/01/2020 at 03:19:33
Rumoured Barca have come back with a second offer, 80M and we can throw in Schneiderlin as well.
Jamie Crowley
94 Posted 30/01/2020 at 04:24:50
I'd be stunned if we let Rich go. We have a developing, young nucleus at Everton that is our future. And Rich is the best of them all.

I honestly believe there's a bright future with these kids. And I believe we're not a selling Club any longer.

If we sell him, we hit the reset button. The reset button was left behind when we hired Carlo, and with Moshri pairing with Usmanov. I truly believe this type of selling is a thing of the past, unless Brands thinks it makes strategic sense to actually improve the squad.

And that's how the DOF makes the big bucks! We'll see.

Graham Hammond
95 Posted 30/01/2020 at 05:02:12
Hi Jamie. I hope that you are right and I hope that I am wrong, I sincerely hope that we are no longer a selling club. I really have my doubts as to whether anything has actually changed. The problem we have and which from a playing perspective I appreciate is this, good players do not want to be in a team with shit players around them and as things stand, the majority of our other players are, for one reason or another, shit. As a club, we need to show ambition and keep bringing in quality, unfortunately, we only seem to buy players devoid of pace, strength, desire, footballing intelligence and athleticism. Until this changes and we recruit quality, decent players are nearly always going to want to leave. We have spent and wasted so much money on shite.
Fran Mitchell
96 Posted 30/01/2020 at 06:43:52
Bob, I don't think there is any conspiracy there. It is actually plainly obvious.

The offering of Richarlison a new contract was in no way 'and early contract renewal', but yes, maintaining the value of our best player.

With players like him, you don't wait until they have 2 years left on their contract to renew, you're just asking for trouble if you do.

Matt Ferris
97 Posted 30/01/2020 at 07:08:29
What is with all the comments about hoping we are not a “Selling Club”?!
Every club in the world is a selling club and every player has their price.
Reality is that Richarlison will go nowhere until the summer and if we get offered anything upwards of £100mil we should snap their hands off.
Yes he's quality but is he irreplaceable??
Jonathan Tasker
98 Posted 30/01/2020 at 07:14:49
Why would anyone be surprised at Efc Selling their best player ?

The whole history of the club for the last sixty years is about selling the best players

As for all of these players that were sold wanting to be sold anyway, well they would say that, wouldn't they !

Jack Convery
99 Posted 30/01/2020 at 07:20:17
A planted story, for a club we are negotiating with currently, to suddenly up the price on a player we want. 3rd party trouble maker at work - agent maybe. If you can afford to turn down £85m you can't be that hard up can you.

If its true, which I very much doubt a call to Neymar and Coutinho should be enough to put him off.

Sam Hoare
100 Posted 30/01/2020 at 07:25:58
Mike@88, yes Bergwijn wasn't cheap but I think he has a lot of the right attributes for the PL. Talented young player who could easily double in value and even if he flops would probably still be worth 15-20m in 2 years time with his potential.
Joe McMahon
101 Posted 30/01/2020 at 09:00:42
When he does go, let's just hope the Money is invested better than the Lukaku money was. Lukaku was so much better than the combined shit we recruited.
Ray Smith
102 Posted 30/01/2020 at 09:17:28
Steve F 15

Your second paragraph speaks volumes.

Many more have also failed and found themselves on the bench or out of favour.

Stay put lad, the grass isn't always greener on the other side of the fence.

Michael Lynch
103 Posted 30/01/2020 at 09:35:45
It would be truly depressing if Richarlison went to Barcelona, whatever the fee, but we all know that if the player wants it and Barca want it, it will happen. He's a great talent, though I'm not sure if he's ready to be the main man over there.

Desperately trying to find the positives, and I guess the only one is that Kean might prove to be an even better player in time.

Bill Fairfield
104 Posted 30/01/2020 at 09:36:04
Sky sources making it up they must be fed up waiting for something to happen.Jim White give it a rest
Sam Hoare
105 Posted 30/01/2020 at 09:49:42
Been an interesting window. I think Spurs have done well with Bergwijn and Fernandes. Also quite like Wolves's moves for Campana and Podence.

Sheffield United will be getting a very decent player in Sander Berge and other talented central midfielders who have moved include Palacios to Leverkusen and Guimaraes to Lyon; neither expensive.

I'd have thought we'd definitely be getting a central midfielder but perhaps the decent results and Gomes seemingly recovering quickly has put paid to that.

Francis van Lierop
106 Posted 30/01/2020 at 10:12:49
A nice bid, but not enough.
Carlo is busy building a new side, so selling our best player is not a option, yet,
If Richie keeps improving, and most signs are pointing in that direction, then there will come a time that Barca (or another team) might bid silly money, say 150m.
Then we can assess.

Agree Mike @88, I didn't expect that much money for Bergwijn, and seems too much.
PSV are a mess at the moment, as opposed to Marcel Brand's other team, AZ, who have found themselves after stumbling, and still only 3 points behind Ajax.

Justin Doone
107 Posted 30/01/2020 at 10:38:46
Hopefully nonsense and no matter what even if true and the player wants it, we need £100M plus then do the deal in the summer.

He's probably our only top class, almost world class player. Therfore our biggest asset and we need to maximise him for the good of the team or his price for the recruitment spree.

1 player doesn't make a team but an unhappy player can ruin it.

If it ever happens I can't blame players. Maximum money and chances of silver ware at one of the worlds biggest and best clubs.

Raymond Fox
108 Posted 30/01/2020 at 12:28:13
I'm not suprised. This repeating senario is why we are stuck where we are., good but not good enough.
If it is true then he will probably want to go there, you wouldn't blame him for that.
Its not perhaps that straight forward of a decision on his part though, does he want to be king of the castle here or sat on the bench at Barca a lot of the time.
Pat Kelly
109 Posted 30/01/2020 at 12:49:02
Just imagine what he'll be worth when he learns how to stand up.
Mark Andersson
110 Posted 30/01/2020 at 13:02:08
Justin Doone... If it ever happens I can't blame players. Maximum money and chances of silver ware at one of the worlds biggest and best clubs.
Sure same team that bottled is at Anfield so maybe Richie should go to the European champions and soon to be English champions...
Steve Carse
111 Posted 30/01/2020 at 13:26:54
Dembele as part of a deal? No thank you. It was him who left the RS in with a chance in last seasons CL semi.
Barcelona had Messi on the ball in the 6 yard box with just Alysson to beat. Instead of just popping it into the net Messi must have had a bout of sympathy for Dembele who was stood slap in front of the net and 6 yards out. Dembele had been having an awful first season; he'd also had a dreadful last 10 minutes as a sub in this game. Cue Messi slipping the ball square to him to do what my mother could have done and put it into the net. Incredibly, with Alysson stood demoralised and rigid on his goalline Dembele then hits the ball straight into his arms with a feeble 'shot'. Messi showed his disgust, probably realising that he'd made a mistake in not scoring himself.
The rest is history.
Jamie Crowley
112 Posted 30/01/2020 at 13:54:13
Graham back at 95 -

If we do indeed sell, and I don't believe we will, but if it made strategic sense to?

I'd argue the "strike price" is 120 million, and let Brands find 3 young gems for 30 to 40 million to backfill.

Again, if it makes us a better team, we should do it. But I simply am not aware of any three players in world football that are available, in a winter window, at the positions we need presently, that would make us better. So even the strategic sell to improve model is flawed, for me.

We're not selling Richarlison. I've seen more than a few posts over the years from people claiming SSN will pump out absolute lies to increase betting on SkyBet. This smacks of that for me.

Stan Schofield
113 Posted 30/01/2020 at 14:37:54
No way should he be sold.

If we continue what we've done so often, selling our best players approaching or in their prime, then we'll stay where we've been for three decades, midtable. If we really want to progress and win trophies, that kind of thing must stop.

Jason Broome
114 Posted 30/01/2020 at 14:52:48
He's our best player so politely no thanks.

There aren't a lot of potential world class strikers who would come to us for less than 85 Million (if at all).

Getting a goalscorer is our biggest problem over the years. Richarlson is the closest thing we've had to Lukaku's replacement. We finally have a potential 20 goal a season striker whose 22 years, settled and coming into his own. If we have ambition, why the fuck would you sell?

If true then Barca know that he has the potential to become a big thing. He is a genuine goal threat. If we sign Everton then their link up play will be amazing.

Big Fat No. Sell the deadwood... Richarlson stays!

Dave Trickey
115 Posted 30/01/2020 at 15:52:24
A cynical thought comes to mind. Lets say, hypothetically that we MAY not have a pot to p*** in owing to FFP restrictions (this is a supposition as I don't know for certain).

Now, in that instance we can't make a statement signing as a real signal of intent for the footballing world. Perhaps (again, this is purely a figment of my imagination), we could invent a high value bid for our best player from one of the world's biggest clubs and leak it to our friends at Sky. Our statement of intent is then - 'look at us, we are aiming to be one of the big boys and won't be selling to any club for any money'.

This takes the focus away from the fact we can't buy until the summer, but continues the pretence that we are playing with the big boys.

I don't actually believe this, but do enjoy a little conspiracy theory once in a while;-)

Brian Williams
116 Posted 30/01/2020 at 16:17:52
There was no bid, no story, nothing to see here!
Mick Roberts
117 Posted 30/01/2020 at 16:39:51
knowing Everton they will sell him and replace him with giroud
Geoff Lambert
118 Posted 30/01/2020 at 16:59:56
I would take Edinson Cavani for a couple of years, can score goals anywhere and would be fantastic for the young lads to learn from.
Ian Pilkington
119 Posted 30/01/2020 at 17:24:48
Even the Spanish press are reportedly denying the authenticity of this so-called bid.
Sky are desperate to liven up a particularly flat transfer window which will be overshadowed by Brexit tomorrow night.
Darren Murphy
120 Posted 30/01/2020 at 20:04:10
Absolute bullshit, like we'd sell our best priced asset now when we can't even bolster the squad regardless of money ffs, April isn't till 2 months. That said, if he does eventually want a move, then as his status suggests, he should be going for 𧴜 million plus so that's Barca ruled out for starters.

We need 3 points on Saturday, lads. Shit idea not getting in Everton Soares and 2 midfielders and a striker... but there ya go, same old Everton.

Bob Parrington
121 Posted 31/01/2020 at 07:55:02
Problem with the Spurs Bergwijn deal is that the price sets a new level. Each time even the shit rises (not saying that Bergwijn is shit) in price.

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