Gbamin undergoes further surgery

Friday, 7 February, 2020 42comments  |  Jump to last

Everton are still hopeful that Jean-Philippe Gbamin will play again before the end of the season after he had another operation on his troublesome thigh.

The Ivorian has been sidelined since August after he badly tore a quadriceps muscle in training just weeks after arriving from Mainz 05 in a £23m deal.

Given a preliminary target of this month for his return, Gbamin suffered an unfortunate setback in his recovery and had to undergo further surgery this week.

That procedure has been described as successful by the club's medical staff and Carlo Ancelotti told the media today during his press conference ahead of tomorrow's clash with Crystal Palace that he anticipates having the midfielder back in a couple of months.

"The plan is eight weeks after surgery," the manager said. "The surgery went well and he's doing individual treatment, but with him we have to do it slowly because the injury was big.

"It's step by step. We hope to recover him before the end of the season."  


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Tony Everan
1 Posted 07/02/2020 at 18:49:18
The main thing is he comes back strong and fully fit. Whether that’s April, May or August. Probably will need a full pre -seasons work to get in the required strength and fitness. It will feel like a new signing having him back and eager to show us what he can bring to the table.

The excellent medical team deserves a mention for fixing him up successfully. Good luck to JP and I hope his rehabilitation goes well.

Mark Guglielmo
2 Posted 07/02/2020 at 19:01:16
Tony @2 - what are your thoughts around our medical team actually contributing to this prolonged injury in the first place?

If memory serves, he was originally diagnosed and told he could rehab it without surgery. Then, by October, they were like "Whoopsie... you need the surgery after all."

I can't help but wonder if he'd be back and fit had he just had that surgery in August. Guess we'll never know...

Colin Glassar
3 Posted 07/02/2020 at 19:01:45
I wouldn’t risk him until August. It’s not worth it.
Steve Ferns
4 Posted 07/02/2020 at 19:02:11
I just hope André Gomes can give him some of that miracle recovery juice! Best of luck to JP as this was his big move and it’s turned into a nightmare. Sure we all hope we can see what he’s all about and we’re patient enough to just want him to make a full recovery.
Len Hawkins
5 Posted 07/02/2020 at 19:59:31
Note de maladie...
Paul Birmingham
6 Posted 07/02/2020 at 20:00:02
Hopefully physically and mentally JP with the full support of the club and supporters will get back to full fitness and confidence, and is given all the time and encouragement to do so, naturally.

No point in taking risks, so save JP, until he’s ready, and based on what’s been written on TW, about other sportsman, who’ve had this injury, it can take a lot of time.

Hopefully he will be back as the player that who arrived at Goodison Park.

Graeme Beresford
7 Posted 07/02/2020 at 20:39:38
Don't get me wrong, any player can get an injury. I just wonder whether this is down to us not performing a medical correctly or something going on in training that shouldn't be putting our own players at risk. £30 million for a player who hasn't played is madness.
Minik Hansen
8 Posted 07/02/2020 at 21:35:17
Whether the medical thought they knew what they were doing at the time JP got injured or not, I believe they did their best.

When we sell one of our midfielders in the summer, JP will take his chance, we'll see if he can cut it. I predict he'll be something like McCarthy in his best form with us, with less injuries. I know, less injuries. I believe. COYB.

By the way, we are very very few toffees in Greenland, and one long time Greenlandic Everton fan is unfortunately about to pass away due to his illness, Hendrik, 69, very possibly this evening. He is really the only guy I text with, when Everton are playing. So sad, though it seems he wants friends and family to make us laugh until his last breath. What a lad. Gave him the shirt the other day, he wanted to order around Christmas, a black Everton shirt with his name on it and his birthyear 50 on it.

Jerome Shields
9 Posted 07/02/2020 at 21:58:23
Jean-Philippe Gbamin's injury history:

19-20: Hamstring Injury Aug 22, 2019 Jan 19, 2020 150 days 26 Everton FC

18-19: Pulled hamstring at the adductors Aug 27, 2018 Sep 17, 2018 21 days 21. FSV Mainz 05

17-18: Cut Feb 5, 2018 Feb 8, 2018 3 days 11. FSV Mainz 05

17-18: Thigh Muscle Strain Dec 14, 2017 Jan 1, 2018 18 days 21. FSV Mainz 05

17-18: Thigh Problems Jul 17, 2017 Sep 4, 2017 49 days 31. FSV Mainz 05

16-17: Muscular problems Apr 20, 2017 May 4, 2017 14 days 21. FSV Mainz 05

16-17: Thigh Problems Sep 19, 2016 Sep 26, 2016 7 days 21. FSV Mainz 05

16-17: Ankle Injury Aug 4, 2016 Aug 15, 2016 11 days -

15-16: Knock Jul 20, 2015 Oct 26, 2015 98 days 13 RC Lens

Good luck with your operation and recovery , Jean Philippe.

Paul Birmingham
10 Posted 07/02/2020 at 22:04:05
Minik, my deepest sympathies and prayers to you and Hendrik and his family, at this very sad time for you all.

Here's to a big win tomorrow, I'll never forget the Chelsea game in 2015, when my dad passed the night before, and Everton brushed Chelsea away with Naismith's perfect hat-trick.

Niall McIlhone
11 Posted 07/02/2020 at 22:13:32
Minik: It will be so sad to lose Hendrik from the world wide Toffee club. I will think of him tomorrow, once a blue, always a blue. Thank you for keeping the blue flame burning in Greenland.
Derek Knox
12 Posted 07/02/2020 at 22:16:41
Mark @2, good to see you back, was sort of wondering what had happened to you, your absence was noticed by some.

Anyway hope they were good to you wherever you were!

Minik @ 8, full commiserations to your mate and yourself, sadly reflecting, we all are inevitably going to go sometime, but it is always more heartfelt when it is someone close to you.

Hope JP Gbamin, is seriously on the road to recovery this time, and comes back to shine with us!

Minik Hansen
13 Posted 07/02/2020 at 22:21:49
Paul, Niall, Derek, thank you very much. He's a true blue, that's for sure and will be with us whatever happens tomorrow.
Sean Kelly
14 Posted 07/02/2020 at 22:44:21
Minik know that the prayers and best wishes from the Everton ToffeeWeb family are with you and Hendrik and his family.
Brent Stephens
15 Posted 07/02/2020 at 22:44:27
Minik, thoughts are with you.
Mike Gaynes
16 Posted 07/02/2020 at 23:03:41
Minik, we're thinking of you. Wishing a peaceful passage to your friend.
John Raftery
17 Posted 07/02/2020 at 23:12:47
Jerome (9), I thought the problem this season was reported to be a quadriceps tear not a hamstring injury. Whatever it is, that is a depressing catalogue of issues. Even though he is only in his early twenties it looks like he will need to be nursed through his career. That is assuming he makes a successful recovery from his latest surgery.
Sean Callaghan
18 Posted 07/02/2020 at 23:15:13
So sorry to hear about your friend, Minik. I can only hope that Hendrik and his loved ones feel the love of the entire Blue Family at this awful time.
Mike Gaynes
19 Posted 07/02/2020 at 23:20:25
Jerome #9, the important thing about that injury history (and Transfermarkt is mistaken, this current problem isn't a hamstring), is how many games he missed, not the number of "days". For example, that "49-day" thigh injury was mostly over the summer.

Before this season, Gbamin had missed 12 games out of a possible 100 due to injury -- that's Bundesliga and Cup games combined -- since 2016. At that level, not bad at all.

Andy Crooks
20 Posted 08/02/2020 at 00:57:03
I think it's kind of odd that we are discussing something way beyond our comprehension. Back in the day, when I was injured, it was because I had "a sore leg", You never hear that nowadays. When were hamstrings invented? I know I never had one. A bunch of fucking softies is what they are. Hamstring? There's no such thing!!


Drew O'Neall
21 Posted 08/02/2020 at 02:00:12
Hoping Hendrik sees a win tomorrow.
Eric Myles
22 Posted 08/02/2020 at 03:07:16
Too right, Andy #20, back in the day it was a quick dab with the magic sponge and back on the pitch!
Minik Hansen
23 Posted 08/02/2020 at 03:39:07
Everybody thank you, I'll pass it to his wife and family. Didn't mean to bring all the attention here, I appreciate it.
Peter Mills
26 Posted 08/02/2020 at 09:03:56
Minik, you and Hendrik are part of the Everton family - there is no escape!
Since your initial post was at number 8, I suggest anyone wanting to offer a prayer, thought or good wish to Hendrik does so 8 minutes into the match today. I will, at Goodison.
Tony Everan
27 Posted 08/02/2020 at 09:38:36
Minik

Thoughts are with you, very sad to hear about Hendrick, I hope he can enjoy one final win today.

Who knows ? He maybe able to find a decent link to watch the game from the ''other side''.

Best regards to yourself, Hendrick and his family. And don't forget even though you wont be texting Hendrick during matches, you can still come onto the live forum on ToffeeWeb which will be a poor substitute, but is sometimes more fun than the match!

Steve Ferns
28 Posted 08/02/2020 at 10:03:27
Good luck to Hendrik, it seems good blues are suffering today so let’s hope the Blues can bring some comfort.
Dave Williams
29 Posted 08/02/2020 at 11:30:03
Good luck with the live forum, Minik!!

Seriously if you ignore the more extreme posters it can be an enjoyable way of following the game and there is a togetherness which you can only get at the game itself.

My best wishes to you in what is clearly a sad time.

Minik Hansen
30 Posted 08/02/2020 at 12:08:07
His wife thanks you all. Hendrik is still here, he is so strong. Can only nod his head and make an effort to smile. He knows we're playing and against who. I'll be very glad to let him know and texting his wife how we're doing in the game! Good game everyone. Regardless of how it pans out. COYB.
Jerome Shields
31 Posted 08/02/2020 at 12:31:50
Minik. I hope Hendrik gets a win today and hope his family are bearing up.
Justin Doone
32 Posted 08/02/2020 at 12:46:24
Just leave the injured players alone and build up their fitness and strength for next season. Slowly, slowly, no need to rush other than for Carlo to see them in action for himself.

Pre-season will be very important for them but, until then, mend well and strong.

Mick Roberts
33 Posted 08/02/2020 at 17:22:28
He's always been injury-prone. Another of Brands's waste-of-money signings.
Mark Williams
34 Posted 08/02/2020 at 19:36:03
Just a few thoughts as a sports medic:

Mark @2,

Conservative treatment is almost always considered the best option as a first line of treatment. Of course, some injuries don't respond to conservative treatment and need more invasive intervention. It is always possible to criticise conservative treatment in hindsight but that is not the 'real' world.

Colin @3,

I couldn't agree more. Better to come back when fit rather than when we need him. This is always the conflict with professional athletes... appearing for the first team before they are truly ready.

Jerome's list of Gbamin's injuries relating to his thigh makes me wonder if these were related to his devastating quadriceps tendon rupture.

I am reminded of Michael Owen's debilitating knee injury when playing for England. When he returned after rehab, he had much the better quads and hamstrings after extensive hard work. I wonder if Gbamin will be better for all the gym work he must go through?

Just musing and hoping! Gym work certainly helped people like Tim Cahill and Cristiano Ronaldo have long careers and stay relatively 'injury-free'.

Jack Convery
35 Posted 08/02/2020 at 19:44:34
God bless Henrik - I hope he heard the score and he was able to smile about it.
Mark Guglielmo
36 Posted 08/02/2020 at 21:54:46
Mick 33 – Check out Mike G's post at 19 again as he succinctly summarizes Gbamin's career. Gbamin is hardly injury prone. He's missed 12 of 100 matches dating back to 2016 (in the same time frame, Messi missed 10 since 2016).

Someone a lot of Evertonians were clamoring for, James Rodriguez, by comparison, has missed 30+ games since the beginning of 2018. That's injury-prone.

Mark 34 – I wasn't criticizing, I was asking if anyone thought it may have played a role is all. I hope the treatment path does wonders for him and he comes back stronger than before. It's a difficult injury to fully recover from though, especially in a sport as physical as football.

Minik Hansen
37 Posted 08/02/2020 at 22:54:14
Jack #35 Thank you. He did! He smiled, I showed him pictures of Bernard, Calvert-Lewin and Richarlison celebrating their goals. Just happy I was able to show them.
Robert Tressell
38 Posted 08/02/2020 at 23:13:26
All the best to your friend too Minik. Very sad but glad a simple thing like football can still bring a little happiness.
Minik Hansen
39 Posted 09/02/2020 at 19:26:35
Thanks Robert and everybody, the family is very pleased to your support. I just found out he will be buried in blue Everton tracksuit. He is still hanging on.
Tony Hill
40 Posted 09/02/2020 at 19:43:20
Brilliant we got the win for him, Minik. Thinking of you all.
Minik Hansen
41 Posted 10/02/2020 at 12:49:20
Hendrik took his last breath this morning. His wife says thank you to all.
Sam Hoare
42 Posted 12/02/2020 at 09:35:12
Sad to hear, Minik. Thoughts with you and his family.
Dave Abrahams
43 Posted 12/02/2020 at 09:40:04
Minik (41), so sorry Minik for you and Hendrik’s family, so sad when a good friend passes away, sadder still when he was so young. May he rest in peace, goodnight God bless Hendrik.
Brian Wilkinson
44 Posted 12/02/2020 at 18:03:09
Eric @22, not many rolling about on the floor in those days, the sight of the bucket and sponge got many a player back on their feet in double quick time.

Here's one for the older ones, can anyone remember John Conolly being on a stretcher, then he got off it. And, if memory serves me right, he picked up a booking for it.

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