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PSG return with another bid for Gueye

| Thursday, 11 July 2019 52comments  |  Jump to last
Paris Saint-Germain are back in the hunt for Idrissa Gueye with L'Equipe reporting that they have lodged a €30m offer for the Senegal international.

The French champions tried to sign Gueye in January but fell short of Everton's valuation and the move never came off.

It is thought that the Blues were holding out for around £35m at the time but the midfielder's stellar form for club and country in the interim has increased the feeling that he is indispensable and that may force the asking price up this summer.

Gueye regarded the opportunity to join PSG and to play Champions League football as a dream move.

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Si Pulford
1 Posted 11/07/2019 at 22:02:42
No point selling at that price. Who would we buy. He’s a vital cog for us. We can’t sell our best players every year because history proves we don’t replace them well. Look at Lukaku.
Tony Abrahams
2 Posted 11/07/2019 at 22:04:21
If they want him, then they are going to have to pay top dollar for him...

Watch this space.

Derek Knox
3 Posted 11/07/2019 at 22:14:45
Totally agree with Si and Tony, he is a vital cog in the improving Everton Machine. He's the sort of player who we all value anyway, but should he move, it would be really noticeable no matter who deputised, how vital he is/was.
David Pearl
4 Posted 11/07/2019 at 22:33:09
I’d expect him to go pretty soon unfortunately, if PSG really want him. He himself wants the move. If we can keep him and add a couple scorers ahead... then league watch out.
Andrew Ellams
5 Posted 11/07/2019 at 22:38:57
If he goes we must go all out to bring in Franck Kessie and not Fabian Delph.
Gerard Carey
6 Posted 11/07/2019 at 22:39:25
How long has he left on his contract with us?
Bill Gienapp
7 Posted 11/07/2019 at 23:00:37
If there's one thing I miss about Martinez, it was his admirably delusional stance that none of our players were for sale (or wanted to go). Remember when he basically claimed that John Stones tripped and accidentally dropped a transfer request in the basket?
Si Pulford
8 Posted 11/07/2019 at 23:09:31
Ah Roberto. His first season was one hell of a ride.

Then he went nuts.

Paul Bernard
9 Posted 11/07/2019 at 23:18:31
Echo the sentiments of one of the posters above, Frank Kessie is the ready made replacement.
Michael Lynch
10 Posted 11/07/2019 at 23:27:56
Frank Kessie? Didn't he have a guitar shop on Stanley Street?
James Gardner
11 Posted 11/07/2019 at 23:28:38
This one stinks of lazy journalism to me!

I don’t see this being the same “dream move” he had imagined back in January. With PSG signing Herrera a few weeks ago, there would now be a lot of competition in front of him with Herrera, Veratti and Paredes. There’s no way they can accommodate them all which would limit his first team minutes. Unless of course PSG are planning to sell one of them.

Worse case scenario and Gueye pushes a transfer through, we would be crazy to agree anything before the Neymar saga is decided.

I really think the price they’re quoting is insulting, considering how important he is for us and how he doesn’t even seemed to have yet peaked. He should be someone we fight our hardest to keep!

If we have any aspirations of future success, we have to get some continuity in our 1st 11 and stop having to replace key players ever few years!

Ian Pilkington
12 Posted 12/07/2019 at 00:24:50
Gueye will be absolutely vital to us next season and must not be sold.
PSG are not likely to break the bank for him after another derisory offer and hopefully they will go away.
Chris Bentham
13 Posted 12/07/2019 at 00:39:03
Look at Lukaku, who Man Utd can't wait to get rid of. Gueye? 2 years ago, I'd have sold him at a shot. He's improved a lot over the last 12 months in his all-round game.

He owes us nothing so give him the dream move to PSG. So long and thanks for your 100% commitment every game. He deserves the big stage at this stage of his career, he's earned it.

Derek Knox
14 Posted 12/07/2019 at 00:51:17
Michael @ 10, not sure about that but did hear he is highly strung. :-)
Michael Kenrick
15 Posted 12/07/2019 at 00:52:06
Gerard (#6), he's got 3 years still to run on his contract and is probably worth anywhere from £50M to £80M in replacement cost at today's crazy prices.

However, if he really wants his dream move, you know that Everton's bountiful generosity will reveal it's feeble smile in today's cutthroat environment and off he will go with our blessing.

Too nice by far. Nowhere near ruthless enough. (Although Silva did threaten to quit over him leaving last time... according to reports.)

Si Cooper
16 Posted 12/07/2019 at 03:05:56
This is where the mismatched transfer windows may work against us. I don't think we necessarily can wait until the Neymar saga is sorted out.

It is a bit confusing with different sites having different information but I think we have to conclude our incomings by 5 pm on the 8th August. Italian clubs have until 18th August and Spanish, German and French have until 31 August. That means any deal for Neymar could easily happen after we have finished our recruitment unless he moves to an English club.

If Gana is dead set on his big swansong, then we could have a major problem if we try to use brinksmanship to up the PSG offer.

This all hinges on whether we have identified a suitable replacement or not. If we haven't, then I guess we would have to gamble on the player's character to keep on giving his all if we refuse to let him go.

If we have someone in mind, then we are going to have to be ultra smart in getting that sorted by the 8th without PSG realising. I don't think that is likely. I think the best we can hope for is the two deals happening simultaneously and we will probably get squeezed at both ends anyway.

Fran Mitchell
17 Posted 12/07/2019 at 04:13:08
Chris, you'd have gor shot of Gueye 2 years ago? Wtf?

The most consistent Everton player i've ever seen, who has only ever got better and better, minus one spell when he and Schneiderlin didn't fit under Koeman.

But Gueye's quality has been the only certainty we've had in years. Our only player who can be classed as world class.

Our stance must be : NOT FOR SALE!

Ajay Gopal
18 Posted 12/07/2019 at 04:16:22
If Pogba is worth £150 million or whatever the crazy price being bandied about is, then Gueye at 29 – at the peak of his ability, excellent fitness record, and his relentless ‘Duracell bunny' energy – should be worth at least half that amount.

Conversely, Everton would do worse than giving him a lucrative 4-year bumper contract – I would assume worth at least £100k/week.

John Keating
19 Posted 12/07/2019 at 07:31:44
I agree an improved contract seems to me to make perfect sense and am sure would save us a fortune
Iain Latchford
20 Posted 12/07/2019 at 07:51:56
He has three years left on his contract so we hold the cards here. Tell PSG he is not for sale. Offer him a new contract, then if he hasn't signed it by next summer sell him them.
Ralph Basnett
21 Posted 12/07/2019 at 08:01:52
Iain (20), with three years left on his contract we are in the driving seat!

We do not have to increase wages - he has a contract!

After three years we are successful - he stays!

We are not what he wants after three years- he goes on a free with our blessing and a slap on the back for his services!

PSG want him - ask us what we want and at 29 I would say 35-40 mill - pay up or shut up!

Justin Doone
22 Posted 12/07/2019 at 08:10:38
I hope he stays. He's an incredible player and very important to how we play.

PSG need to start at least double that bid for us to take them seriously.

Jim Bennings
23 Posted 12/07/2019 at 08:20:07
If PSG are paying that much for show pony Neymar who continually never lives up to the hype, then surely to God they can pay £70 million for Gana?

Clearly they think he’s a Champions League quality player so they can bloody well come back in with a Champions League fee for him, and I’d still tell them where to go!!!

We can’t afford to sell Gana with weeks now remaining of the window.

It’s bad enough that we are unlikely to
get Zouma back, losing Gana would be detrimental to a top half finish for me.

Jim Bennings
24 Posted 12/07/2019 at 08:26:28
If it is true that we are holding out for £35 million then we are piss weak!

We should be asking for £70 million if we are even daring to think about selling.

Gana has four good years left in him and what in this day and age can you get for £35 million?

That wouldn’t even get you Doucoure at Watford and honestly after watching him last season more, I don’t even rate him that much, he’s certainly not better than Gana.

Derek Knox
25 Posted 12/07/2019 at 08:41:27
Jim @ 23&24, good point regarding the likes of Neymar, who is to me at any rate, the epitome of all that is wrong with the game these days, a show pony.

And yes, we should stick a 'realistic' price tag on Gana, regardless of how much we got him for, other Clubs do it to their mvp's, as Michael Kenrick mentioned we are far too nice, when it comes down to being tough.

Iain Latchford
26 Posted 12/07/2019 at 08:45:46
Ralph (21). Yes, that would be another option. Problem with that is we would have player earning a fraction of what he knows he could be earning elsewhere (I know that's still a fortune to you and I). I don't think this would work, and we'd just end up with a p*ssed off player, probably demanding a move.

I think in the circumstances an improved contract is the best option. If it doesn't work out we can still sell next summer at handsome profit, considering what we paid for him.

Tony Abrahams
27 Posted 12/07/2019 at 08:48:21
When you think about modern football, then I think it’s the only realistic option Ian.
Jim Bennings
28 Posted 12/07/2019 at 08:48:57

I don’t think I’ve ever watched Neymar in the last 7 years and thought “yes he’s the best player in the world right now”.

PSG paid an absolutely filthy ridiculous fee for him, I could just about understand if it was Messi or Ronaldo we were talking about but Neymar isn’t on the same planet as those two.

No way should we think of letting Gana go for anything under £70 million in today’s market.

Forget the age of players, it’s his value to us as a club and £35 million just won’t even begin to break the ice for me, if we sell him for that then next season we get what we deserve if it goes tits up as usual.

Martin Berry
29 Posted 12/07/2019 at 08:48:58
Having turn down bids in January I am guessing that the player would have liked the move. Everton will let him go for the right price once sourcing a younger replacement.
I feel he will definitely go and good luck to the player who always gave 100%
Jim Bennings
30 Posted 12/07/2019 at 08:59:37

Finding a so-called younger replacement and convincing him to join a middle ranked team with no European football won’t be easy though will it?

You really need a player in that area that is experienced at doing that job, that’s why players like Carsley and Barry were so good at it.

When we have had Tom Davies there for example we lose that discipline and shape goes out the window.

Brands might be good but he’d need to be a miracle worker with four weeks left of the transfer window now to replace Gana.

Michael Lynch
31 Posted 12/07/2019 at 09:14:13
As the club presumably knew this was going to happen, Brands will either have a couple of solid possibilities lined up to replace Gana, or he won't sanction a transfer. 30m doesn't come close in my opinion - Gana was one of the best in his position in the PL between January and May, if not the best - so I doubt if PSG are actually that arsed about it unless they're prepared to come up with double that.
Brian Williams
32 Posted 12/07/2019 at 09:38:28
In these days of player power and some of the gobshites (no not them lot) coming out with "I know where I'll be playing next season" or " I really want a new challenge" or fatboy Lukaku's "I love Italy and pizza and Cornetto's" Gana's stance is/was a breath of fresh air after he didn't get his move last window.
If he DOES still want to move though, as professional as he was/is he's maybe going to be more disappointed and possibly unable to retain the focus he's previously managed.
It's one of those do we don't we situations. Hard to call, without knowing the players strength of feeling.
If he's set on going I'd explain (to him) his importance to the club and also what the club would have to pay to replace him.
With that in mind I'd set the price, if he was intent on going, and explain that we can't/won't take less.
PSG are used to getting their own way. They're powerful, super rich, and arrogant.
They're offering an insulting amount because of this.
So if he wants to go badly, tell PSG "We don't want to sell, however, if our valuation is met we will consider an offer."
Then tell 'em straight what the valuation is.
I'm no expert, but with the prices around these days it has to be £40m minimum, maybe more.
Whatever price we set, stick to it and give 'em a deadline.
After that, vas te faire foutre!
Pat Kelly
33 Posted 12/07/2019 at 10:17:45
I expect Brands is resigned to selling him and will have a replacement lined up. Gana wants out and he has been committed while at Everton so give him his dream move if that's what he really wants. These signings we need look like going down to the wire.
Tony Everan
34 Posted 12/07/2019 at 10:22:31
PSG are taking the piss at 27m. He is an important part of our midfield and his form in 2019 has been the best in the league at what he does. 27m does not cut the mustard.

I don't want him to go, but if he is adamant I would put him in the Sigurdsson price bracket. The days are gone when we can be financially bullied.

Steve Carse
35 Posted 12/07/2019 at 10:29:57
Weren't Silva and Brands saying early in 2019 that they already had a good idea of their targets for next year. Clearly most of them have turned out to be a no go. On top of that we risk losing two of the three players (Gueye and Zouma) most responsible for the upturn in form after January (Sigurddson in my opinion being the other).
We face a worrying 4 weeks.
Steve Ferns
36 Posted 12/07/2019 at 10:55:19
Why are they a no go?

Let’s say we identify the best we think we can get, such as Malcolm and Zouma. Zouma clearly cannot be sold until Lampard agrees it. So there’s a delay. Malcolm will only commit to Everton if arsenal drop out the running. Arsenal will only drop out the running when the price is wrong. So we should offer more than they will. Well reports say we have. But they’re talking to the player and telling him to hold out for them.

So Steve, should we forgo players at the top level and go for players who the bigger clubs don’t want? Bearing in mind that some players won’t go to the biggest clubs but get strung along as a backup option, meantime they’re stringing us along as a backup option.

If you want the best players, we have to play this game. Otherwise we end up paying £50m for Sigurdsson and £30m for Bolasie.

Let brands do his thing and after the window shuts, then worry if we haven’t bought well.

John Hammond
37 Posted 12/07/2019 at 11:56:41
Whatever happens I think we can all be sure that Brands has a few replacements on his list. If he does go it'll be for more than the £27m quoted...
Dave Williams
38 Posted 12/07/2019 at 12:25:38
Whilst £70m would be nice, Jim, he is 30 now, so I reckon £40-45m would be about right. If we reinvested that into a much younger aggressive defensive midfielder, I would see that as good business.
Who would that be? I haven't a clue... but Brands will know!
Brian Williams
39 Posted 12/07/2019 at 12:39:06
There's talk of Lemina (Lamina) from Soton as a possible replacement.
Don't know a thing about him. Steve Ferns, any info on him mate?
Jim Bennings
40 Posted 12/07/2019 at 13:03:11

I hear you but look at the price the likes of Tyrone Mings has gone for, look at the inflated fees clubs are paying?

This is PSG and they throw millions on everything that moves, so we should set the bar immensely high, they clearly want Gana, well let’s just see how desperate they are to sign him!

Alan McGuffog
41 Posted 12/07/2019 at 13:13:02
He has got years in front of him. I don't buy into this "Oh he's nearly 30" so we shouldn't expect top dollar. When Barca wanted Coutinho, the Reds stood their ground and got a massive fee. Let's take a leaf out of their book or Spurs for that matter. He is our player for another 3 years, he's got years in him, just tell him he can go, if he wants and PSG will have to offer well north of £50 million.
Francis van Lierop
42 Posted 12/07/2019 at 13:23:32
Tony @34, PSG are indeed taking the piss at £27M. He's playing better than ever, since their bid in the winter window. Hence his value has increased.

I heard they would bid £45m. That's more like what he's worth, or maybe even more.

David Pearl
43 Posted 12/07/2019 at 14:01:18
Francis, talking about values what do you think we should've paid for Gomes? Let's hope we continue to purchase so well. For just £3m more, we could've got Mings... Bizarre!
Phil Sammon
44 Posted 12/07/2019 at 14:29:26
One thing in our favour is that Gueye doesn’t seem the type to throw a wobbly if he doesn’t get his move.

If they offer £50M then we have a decision to make. Until then we should dig our heels in.

Francis van Lierop
45 Posted 12/07/2019 at 15:07:48
David, completely agree.
Marcel Brands is going about it the right way.
Getting Andre Gomes for that money was a big plus.
Moise Kean & Kurt Zouma on board would make this window a complete success.
We don't want to lose Gana, but only for the right money.
Michael Burke
46 Posted 12/07/2019 at 17:06:19
I thought Gueye was a bit of a headless chicken to begin with. A good one at that. I feel as though he genuinely improved last season under Silva. More composed on the ball, better, more incisive passing whilst still maintaining his all action style. He needs to stay!
Peter Warren
47 Posted 12/07/2019 at 17:28:13
He has a 3 year contract. Would rather keep him and let him run down his contract than sell him.
Steve Ferns
48 Posted 12/07/2019 at 18:32:44
Dave, he's not a player I know too much about. Seen him a few times with Southampton playing against us, but he never really stood out. Maybe Sam Hoare might know more about him.
Tony Everan
49 Posted 12/07/2019 at 20:08:25
I followed his progress a bit because we were rumoured to be looking at him last summer before he went to Southampton. From what I saw of him he didn't do enough to stand out as a potential top four or six player. Maybe he is a player that Silva thinks he can move his game up a level and his transition year is already over.
Rob Marsh
50 Posted 12/07/2019 at 20:59:09
I suspect when Gueye wanted to leave at Christmas, but was denied, most probably because of our perilous league position a deal was done with him.

If he stays until the end of the season without complaint or sulk and helps us stay up we'll let him go when PSG come up with a reasonable price.

I expect him to go this time.

Dave Williams
51 Posted 12/07/2019 at 21:16:41
Sky reporting that we are in advanced talks to sign Delph. Not sure about this one but Sky are usually accurate – where would he play?
Dale Rose
52 Posted 13/07/2019 at 11:05:55
Lot of time for this guy. Love watching him and he gives his all. PSG are a huge step up from us at the moment. Can't blame him and if he goes I hope he does well.

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