Zaha was the subject of a £52m offer from the Blues that was lodged on 28th July and swiftly rejected by Crystal Palace who had initially slapped a £100m price tag on the winger's head and had already knocked back a £40m bid from Arsenal.
While Everton didn't end up submitting another formal bid, despite media reports that they had offered £70m plus Cenk Tosun and James McCarthy as make-weights, MailSport suggest they had indicated informally to the Selhurst Park hierarchy that they were prepared to go as high as £60m.
Palace refused to deal with the Blues further and, the Mail contend based on insider information, they started avoiding calls from Everton in a bid to see out the transfer deadline.
That left Zaha fuming that the Eagles had reneged on an agreement to let him go this year if a suitable offer came in for him.
Meanwhile, Rojo was the subject of an approach from Everton to sign him on a season-long loan, an arrangement that, according to The Mirror Manchester United were happy to agree to on Wednesday evening but by deadline day had changed their minds, insisting then on a cash deal.
Everton had no interest in buying the Argentine outright and pulled out of talks, leaving Rojo angry with his club for moving the goalposts and denying him a chance at first-team football this season, the chances of which were made significantly less like at Old Trafford following the signing of Harry Maguire from Leicester.
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1 Posted 09/08/2019 at 01:48:39
2 Posted 09/08/2019 at 04:27:34
Rojo may have been a useful loan, as cover, but I think the club was correct in jibbing at a full transfer
Gibson looked useful, in some of the pre season games, and would benefit in being introduced as a sub if a game is safe.
3 Posted 09/08/2019 at 05:31:23
It will be great to travel to Palace at the weekend and work it up them!
4 Posted 09/08/2019 at 06:01:00
His stats mirror Zaha's at the same age, he's quick, skillfull and needs game time and responsibility to enhance his confidence. He also has a level head. His arrival might be a blessing in disguise for him and us.
Rojo can jump up and down with his hair on fire for all I care. Hell No! I don't like this type of player.
Mina needs to show why we paid so much for him whilst Lewis Gibson and Holgate need to break through.
Mina will either be a hit or 'back one out' and stink up the joint. Either way the fans will let him know.
5 Posted 09/08/2019 at 06:43:30
I'm glad the Rojo deal didn't come off as he's a carthorse and Zaha was vastly overvalued by Palace considering as their talisman he only managed to score 10 in 34 games last season and has not scored over 10 for Palace in any Premier League season which is not a good record for a supposedly £80m+ player whichever way you look at it.
6 Posted 09/08/2019 at 06:47:45
7 Posted 09/08/2019 at 08:11:07
8 Posted 09/08/2019 at 08:17:02
Brands: What are you thinking re: Rojo?
Man U: We're thinking you give us 25-million and he's yours.
Brands: And I'm thinking I'm hanging up the phone now.
9 Posted 09/08/2019 at 08:27:21
Or the fee if they sell him for if it less than 25m.
If they do loan him out before the euro window shuts, basically it amounts to they fear us this season as a direct competitor and wanted to weaken us by not wanting our defence to have cover.
10 Posted 09/08/2019 at 08:35:07
Whenever I saw him play for Arsenal he always looked exciting, maybe he didnt get the starts he should have done because his name isnt Ozil.
Just hope we dont have a crisis at CB - though Gbamin can play there and with Delph, Gomes, Schneiderlin (I know), Davies n co available in the middle that isnt too bad.
Personally I think Gbamin looks an absolute beast and very excited about him.
11 Posted 09/08/2019 at 08:35:09
As for loans none of the top 6 have loan players in their team so why should we, look at the Zouma debacle, a loan to buy (Sidibe) is the way to go.
12 Posted 09/08/2019 at 08:41:25
I agree Mina has to fulfil the reason why he was bought. He has had more than adequate time to recover and get up to speed. Holgate, Gibson and Gbamin are adequate cover. Keane is up to it, Mina has now to be the same.
13 Posted 09/08/2019 at 08:57:48
That said many successful teams have had an "enforcer" Styles in 66, Barasi in the great AC Milan team of the 80's and you would prefer to play with them and against !
Rojo's problem is injuries and staying on the pitch not his defending abilities.
In Iwobi we may yet have potentially a better player than Saha, younger and also puts in a shift, at half the price too.
14 Posted 09/08/2019 at 09:07:31
15 Posted 09/08/2019 at 09:16:09
16 Posted 09/08/2019 at 10:13:20
Oh and in the League Cup matches to rest Keane and Mina
17 Posted 09/08/2019 at 10:26:39
@ Paul Smith: Man City just took a goalkeeper on loan from Derby. Last season, Bayern had James on loan from Real Madrid... top sides do loans too.
18 Posted 09/08/2019 at 10:42:00
19 Posted 09/08/2019 at 10:42:19
I can't really fathom the Rojo decision. Obviously, there must be more to this than meets the eye, otherwise why would they be so intent on holding on to a sixth choice centre half? Whilst I don't have much sympathy for footballers these days, it can't be nice sat on the bench each week when you'd rather be on the pitch playing. Maybe Man U see as their rivals for one of those CL spots, and are reluctant to let him go to a club they see as a potential threat.
20 Posted 09/08/2019 at 10:58:33
I bet it's the first time Rojo has ever been compared to one of the best defenders in world football like the great Franco Baresi.
Other than being a professional footballer I don't see any resemblance at all.
We dodged an accident waiting to happen with Rojo. Holdgate or one of the many centre mids we have can step in if we have injuries.
I was surprised we let Pennington go on loan. The lad might not be everyone's cup of tea but we do need Centre back cover.
Think we all have our fingers crossed that Mina stays fit and adapts to the prem.
21 Posted 09/08/2019 at 11:41:00
22 Posted 09/08/2019 at 11:52:39
My bigger disappointment is the lack of a centre back. As well as Keane played last year there is still that heart in mouth moment most games, especially when balls are sent over the top.
People both in and outside the Club speak highly of some of the U23 squad and Id love it if one or two of them made the step up this season and you never know might save us a few bob at the same time. Lewis Gibson seems to be the one being touted as the next one to graduate into the first team squad. Lets see if he can do it. If he's good enough he's old enough
23 Posted 09/08/2019 at 12:02:53
24 Posted 09/08/2019 at 12:05:05
25 Posted 09/08/2019 at 12:09:41
I personally don't feel we did but at the same time there were a lot of doubts for a player with a world class price tag.
1- his goals and assist ratio really don't reflect his price tag.
2-looking closely at the player at Palace they play counter attack football. When Zaha has room to play there is no better sight in football. At home when teams parked the bus he looked a different player and got frustrated and ragged. For us most teams in the league will sit deeper.
There is no evidence in his career to date that he has the toolset for that task and his home record isn't inspiring.
3-Risk financially as due to his age and the premium we would have needed to pay if he didn't work out it would be a big loss. Iwobi even if he's a failure won't be so.
4-I had doubts about his team ethic and if successful would he want to jump ship. If so we wouldn't make much profit and be back to square one within a year.
So while I accept the improvement Zaha has made to his game especially under Hodgson for the figures asked you would really need to be confident that he would totally transform you. If we are paying a world class fee I want to be sure we have either a top class player or a top class talent who can become world class. With Zaha I'm not.
26 Posted 09/08/2019 at 12:27:36
Well done Brands in this window. I can't believe the numbers we have shipped out one way or another - impressive. And the number / quality of what we have brought in.
Palace here I come, more excited than at the start of any recent season.
27 Posted 09/08/2019 at 14:04:09
28 Posted 09/08/2019 at 14:31:17
29 Posted 09/08/2019 at 15:00:43
That said, I do wonder if there has been a change of perception about Everton in football circles, both nationally and further afield.
Let's be honest, it's a good 2-3 decades that Everton was considered a desirable 'destination' for top level players.
We have neither had the cash to attract them, nor the status. We have picked up bargains from lower leagues or lesser European leagues and cast-offs in the winter of their careers from the top six.
Since Brands came on board, in his first (rushed and pressured) window last summer we recruited seven players not yet in their prime: 3 from Barcelona, Zouma on loan from Chelsea, Virginia from Arsenal, Bernard on a free and Richarlison on big money from Watford (he now looks a bargain).
We kept our powder dry in January, but this summer had a right good go at the market recruiting again seven players (six if you take out the permanent transfer of Gomes) from Barcelona, Arsenal, Man City, Juventus, Monaco, Mainz and...ehrm...Huddersfield! We haven't paid over £30 million for a single one of them, considerably less in some cases.
This is without taking into consideration the academy players and fringe squad players we have also moved on in this time.
There is a clear transfer strategy and plan in place and where we now shop is completely different to where we previously did our buying.
I am sure a London-based boy and (alledged) Gooner like Zaha would not have given Everton a thought at the start of this summer's transfer window. Arsenal not following up their own interest and our business in the interim evidently made him sit up and take notice of what was happening around L4, to the extent that he put in a transfer request in an attempt to force through a move to us.
I somehow fancy he won't be the last high profile footballer in future seasons who will be interested in what Everton offers should they ever come calling.
30 Posted 09/08/2019 at 15:42:56
31 Posted 09/08/2019 at 16:52:58
As Steve has said, reports that Palace turned off the phone not entirely believable but if true he's not going to be happy.
We have other players to move on. Come January a few other fringe players could also move, allowing us to really go for it for the final push. Thats if we are in position too.
32 Posted 09/08/2019 at 17:03:28
33 Posted 09/08/2019 at 17:48:16
Matching the likes of Arsenal is our aim, not buying their surplus. It would have been a bolder step if we had not signed either Zaha or Iwobi, and waited until January and tried to get Zaha. Instead, we've handed Arsenal a large chunk of the fee, which without, they could not have bought him.
Zaha was a MUST. Bottled again. Settling for less is a trait we need ditch.
34 Posted 09/08/2019 at 20:50:59
Maybe I'm just wrong and out of step with most others, he had a productive season and scored 10 goals, but the fact that Arsenal were lukewarm about him and none of the other big boys showed any interest in him means collectively he just wasn't rated that highly.
We were the only (mugs?) that were prepared to come close to the asking fee. Let's wait and see if he betters last season performance this season and becomes a superstar.
35 Posted 09/08/2019 at 20:51:27
Zaha was going to cost a fortune and I'm not convinced he is much better than Iwobi. We would still have the money to make another bid in January if needs be, but Zaha won't be going anywhere until next summer.
The other thing is we don't have the same attraction as the “Top Six” so that will go against us until we start regularly challenging.
36 Posted 09/08/2019 at 21:01:04
Without Zaha they would probably be fighting to stay up and desperate to avoid losing the TV dosh. Fortunately it appears it was mostly a media frenzy.
37 Posted 09/08/2019 at 21:01:32
38 Posted 09/08/2019 at 23:24:47
All you've got to do is compare Palace's results with him and without him. His goals and assists return is decent considering he plays in a relatively weak team, and if he was in a side with other threatening players, rather than being the only one the opponents need to focus on, then he would probably be able to produce more.
I'm gutted we didn't get him.
39 Posted 09/08/2019 at 23:25:42
40 Posted 09/08/2019 at 23:40:42
41 Posted 10/08/2019 at 00:04:26
42 Posted 10/08/2019 at 07:52:14
I'm more bothered we didnt add the 3 class players we needed to kick on from last years show of potential.
Now we have another possible show of potential with these young signings and the ball will just keep rolling.
If we wanted to really be above Arsenal and Man U (which was clear 2 years back when we sold our top scorer to them one place above us), now was the time to do it.
We wont hurt them when they are great again will we?
43 Posted 10/08/2019 at 08:15:34
on the centre backs, it was a very tough ask to get someone to meet our requirements, given that we were looking for someone of higher standard than Holgate, but who we didn't want to spend any money on.
44 Posted 10/08/2019 at 09:11:51
I think Iwobi is a lesser player but still a decent addition to our squad and the chances are he will appreciate being at Everton much more than I think Zaha would have done. That may be enough to get that significant bit more out of Iwobi than we have seen from him so far.
I think Rojo on loan would have been the only circumstance I would be happy to see him come to us, and purely for cover only. Some posters have been stating we had 12 months to plot the Kurt Zouma transfer. They seem to have forgotten that last year we bought Yerry Mina and Kurt Zouma was only a loan deal with no option to buy. I think the intention was for Zouma just to be cover for a season but in the end Zouma had the better season and made it a sensible idea to see if we could get him to return. A run of negative factors ultimately ruined that option, but it must have only really become an option when his form radically improved. Yerry Mina was our first option and we should all be hoping he makes us forget all about Kurt Zouma as a dead cert first choice. If not we will try again for Zouma in January when Rudiger is back.
45 Posted 10/08/2019 at 09:33:57
More likely Arsenal will sumbit an instalments based bid in Jan (if they still need him) and Everton will go back with more cash.
60M should've been more than enough to get him; unfortunately the Maguire deal unsettled the window.
46 Posted 10/08/2019 at 09:39:38
Get me Wilfried Zaha
Get me another Wilfried Zaha
Get me a young Wilfried Zaha
Who is Wilfried Zaha?
47 Posted 11/08/2019 at 09:27:15
Our small-club mentality permeates through the club from the owner all the way down to the fans and that is why we will finish between 10th and 8th and have absolutely no hope of Top 6.
We didn't even have the forward-thinking confident mentality to even play our star signing yesterday, choosing instead to go safe with a striker that averaged a goal every 9 games — it's pathetic!
48 Posted 12/08/2019 at 21:03:52
49 Posted 18/08/2019 at 21:29:35
If so, he becomes a free agent and thus not bound by transfer window rules? Some kind of collusion going on perhaps? Is that possible?
50 Posted 18/08/2019 at 21:56:57
Which top-six side would want Zaha even at half the price we offered... oh yes, Man Utd who couldn't wait to get rid, so why do you think he would be a good signing? We have 2 players who out scored him last season, one was overpriced and one ruined the transfer market.
In my opinion, we dodged a very expensive bullet.
51 Posted 18/08/2019 at 22:01:38
Chelsea wanted him, Spurs were interested, Arsenal bid for him and Pep bigged him up but have no room. That's 3 of 6. But yes he was expensive. I'm happy to see if Iwobi can improve.
52 Posted 18/08/2019 at 22:03:22
And for the first time since the 1993/94 season Everton enter the 3rd game of the season having not conceded a goal. (Good job we got 9 points from those 1st 3 games that season!)
Do we need him now?
And on another note, I see Joel Robles was facing Sandro in Spain tonight, the first red carded after 8 mins and the other subbed after 12. We might be getting the loan cancelled if he is seriously crocked.
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