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Tosun has no interest in Qatar move

Wednesday, 18 September 2019 25comments  |  Jump to last
There were rumours that Cenk Tosun could leave Goodison Park for Qatar-based club Al Gharafa, who are currently managed by former Watford and Fulham boss Slavisa Jokanovic, but he looks set to spurn their advances.

The transfer window there does not close until 30 September but the Liverpool Echo has been reporting there have been no firm bids for him and now Milliyet in Turkey are saying that the striker wants to stay at Everton until January at least.

Original Source: Milliyet via Sport Witness  


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Mike Gaynes
1 Posted 17/09/2019 at 16:43:34
Sky Sports just reported that Cenk Tosun is on his way out. Sold to a team in Qatar.
Dave Abrahams
2 Posted 17/09/2019 at 16:58:21
Mike, it was reported that he was going this morning for a substantial fee, did Sky say how much?

We’ve still got Niasse up front.

Paul Hewitt
3 Posted 18/09/2019 at 13:04:24
Here's a thought. Why don't we start playing him? Can't be any worse than Calvert-Lewin.
Liam Reilly
4 Posted 18/09/2019 at 14:07:26
I suspect they want some return on investment from him, Paul, with one eye on another push for Zaha in the January window.

Silva doesn't appear to favour an old fashioned # 9, so perhaps a Front Three of: Richarlison, Kean and Zaha would ruffle a few feathers with that pace.

I for one would like to see that.

Sam Hoare
5 Posted 18/09/2019 at 14:13:24
If he's not going to play then we might as well sell him. We have Kean, Calvert-Lewin and potentially Richarlison who can all play up front. If they continue to do well for the U23s, you might be able to add Anthony Gordon and Ellis Simms to that list.

Personally I'd like to see Tosun given more time. When confident he's probably our best natural finisher and always works hard for the team. I think our chance conversion rate is among the lowest in the league currently and explains our mediocre start to the season somewhat. But if Silva's not a fan and there's a decent fee on the table then flog him and re-invest.

Tony Everan
6 Posted 18/09/2019 at 14:52:58
He would probably score about 50 a season over there.

The club are trying to persuade him to get some money back but I suspect he doesn't fancy it and would rather go back to Turkey.

Jim Bennings
7 Posted 18/09/2019 at 15:06:16
Whether he does go to Qatar or not, he won't be an Everton player come the end of January, let's face it.

It's hugely frustrating that our only experienced striker is Cenk Tosun, a man clearly not trusted, rated, good enough to put pressure on Calvert-Lewin and Moise Kean.

We need a reliable experienced centre-forward in January, we were bloody careless to not sign one during the summer months.

Clive Rogers
8 Posted 18/09/2019 at 15:15:28
We’ll be lucky to get £10 M for him now. A loan is most likely.
Kieran Kinsella
9 Posted 18/09/2019 at 19:56:11
Qatar is a bit of an elephants' junkyard of a league for an international with one eye on the Euros. Can't see him going for that.
Bobby Mallon
10 Posted 18/09/2019 at 20:02:05
I wish it was fucking Silva going to Qatar – he's piss-poor as a manager.
Niall McIlhone
11 Posted 18/09/2019 at 20:41:13
I suspect we are selling our best goal-scorer. Cenk has never really had much in the way of good service, I can't understand why Marco hasn't given him at least a half-hour on for Calvert-Lewin in home games, with the likes of Digne, Bernard and Iwobi to supply the ammo.

If he does go cheap, that's down to a combination of a poor choice by Allardyce, coupled with Silva's lack of faith in the player himself.

As an aside, I really don't like to see any of our players treated badly, but some have just never really found their way at Everton... perhaps that says more about the club than we are prepared to accept?

Phil Malone Jnr
12 Posted 18/09/2019 at 20:46:47
I'd play in Qatar, looks lovely. Plus you'd get some air time with Keysey and Gray! Proper honest footy talk.
Derek Knox
13 Posted 19/09/2019 at 11:51:53
I know I've not been that impressed with Cenk in the past, not because of his ability to get the ball in the back of the net, but his adaptation to the speed of the game.

The lad has proved that, given a chance in front of goal, he will invariably put it away. The thing being how many chances has he had, not many, and what service has he had in those few appearances? Plus he's expected as Calvert-Lewin is, to play the lone striker role, which neither is suited to. I won't go into whether Calvert-Lewin is a striker or not, the subject matter is Tosun.

I feel sorry for the lad, he never asked to come over here, he was hunted down by Professor Blubber, and paid an enormous fee for him, untried in the Premier League. It's not his fault that Silva will not change HIS concept of the right team, home or away, and many players are suffering for this intangibility.

For the sake of his footballing career, although allegedly he wants to stay and fight for what is probably a non-existent place, he would be better to move on, at least he would be playing regularly and getting picked for his National Team.

Steve Ferns
14 Posted 19/09/2019 at 12:09:01
Derek, what's Cenk's strengths? He is not fast enough to get I behind. He lacks the skill to beat a man. He is not tall enough to be a threat aerially. He arrived as the "bull" but lacks the strength to outmuscle Premier League defences.

He seems a nice lad and as you say, he does have the ability to get the ball in the back of the net, the problem is getting the ball to his feet. He just gets marked by centre-backs and can't get a sniff. So he drops deep and closes down. He does that well. But his passing ability is poor and so he cannot contribute in the build-up play.

He just does not have enough to be a Premier League player at a decent club that will have plenty of the ball. He would be better at a battling side that puts 10 men behind the ball and launches it long and gets crosses into the box and he can score in a scramble.

Derek Knox
15 Posted 19/09/2019 at 13:03:32
Steve, if you read my first paragraph again, you will see that I did mention his inability to adapt to the speed of the game in the Premier League. Admittedly his passing should be a lot better, and he lacks aerial ability.

Then again, I know he was a bit of an exception to the rule, Alan Shearer wasn't that tall, yet he scored a lot of headed goals, more about timing then, but centre-backs are getting bigger, or so it seems these days, must be something in those Pot Noodles!

Steve Ferns
16 Posted 19/09/2019 at 13:17:57
Shearer was 6'-0" Derek, and as you rightly say, played in an era when the centre-backs were smaller. We had players of a similar size like Watson, Weir, Yobo, and so on marking him.

I take "speed of the game" to mean he can't keep up with how fast the ball moves, rather than his own lack of speed. It's a good point though, as it just does seem to pass him by. I just do not think he has any tools to get himself into the game, he can't run in behind, he can't drop deep, pick the ball up and run at a defence, he cannot out-muscle them, he cannot outjump them.

So, how can he get himself onto the ball to shoot from a dangerous position. He's reliant on a perfect ball to feet from midfield. That means he is not going to get many opportunities.

Justin Doone
17 Posted 19/09/2019 at 14:08:23
Unless we get plenty of money for him, at this stage of the season, he's worth keeping in case of injuries etc.

He's a good box finisher but just isn't suited to our 'football style' which to be honest I'm still trying to figure out myself and I presume most of the team.

But don't worry, we have a midfield kingpin who goes by the name of Schneiderlin.

David Currie
18 Posted 19/09/2019 at 19:26:15
Cenk will be fine playing at a lower level, he was never good enough to play in the Premier League. Awful scouting on our part and for £27 million the Turks are laughing at us.

It amazes me how we could spend so much on a player who is slow, not strong or big enough, and technically not up to this League.

Alex Kociuba
19 Posted 20/09/2019 at 04:28:21
Justin, genuine question, by what measure is Tosun a good box finisher? (I would have thought goal-scoring would be best.)
Justin Doone
20 Posted 20/09/2019 at 06:43:22
Tosun has a good goal scoring record for past clubs and country. When he strikes the ball in and around the edge of the box it's usually hit with power and accuracy. As a team, we do not play to his strengths and he struggles in the system.

That sounds simple but currently we only have Siggy that strikes the ball as well but from further out.

How often do Calvert-Lewin, Richarlison, Bernard, Walcott miss-hit and / or completely miss the target from inside the box. In my mind, far too often. They are not real strikers whereas I see Tosun as an out-and-out striker. It would be good to get some stats on this, ie, number and percentage of shots on target from 20 yards.

If Calvert-Lewin had Tosun's finishing or Tosun had the speed and size of Calvert-Lewin, we would have a proper player and goal threat. As it is, hope rests with Kean.

Sean Kelly
21 Posted 23/09/2019 at 22:13:08
I bet this takes an age. He's not exactly built for speed is he?
Drew O'Neall
22 Posted 26/09/2019 at 14:44:09
Justin

You touch on an interesting point which I have considered in the light of recent cries to overhaul our formation and playing staff.

It seems to me that, while we have been frustrated by seemingly inferior teams which has caused outcry among our fan base citing lack of effort, lack of cutting edge, and lack of dynamism on the part of the manager, actually we are dominating possession and getting the ball regularly and consistently to the edge of the opponents penalty box. The issue is what we do with it when we get there.

If an opponent is willing to concede possession to us with a view to defending their box with all their players, we should simply nuance what we already have which is 90% successful but not resulting in the ball in the back of the opponents net.

On offence, in basketball players arrange themselves around their opponents D and work the ball to the position of the man who can hit the long-range (three pointer) shot.

We have, as Justin cites in his post, several players in the team who can hit the ball accurately and powerfully from outside of the area. To name a few; Sigurdson, Digne, Baines, Ewobi, Tosun, Richarlison (I’m probably doing a disservice to others like Kean and possibly Gomes) but we deem it necessary to get round the side and float a hopeless cross in or attempt an impossible pass.

If, as a phase two or three of our play, we positioned our long shooters in to positions around the area and worked the ball until they had a free shot, we would have an infinitely better chance of scoring than by waiting for Coleman’s cross in a million which actually lands on DCL’s head only for him to nod it over the bar or back to the keeper.

We’re well set up to do it too.. we have in Schneiderlin a player who is much more comfortable covering defence than attacking the box so why shouldn’t he switch with Digne on the edge of the penalty area as the play develops? I don’t want him and Delph to be the players attacking the edge of the box while we work it.

There needs to be a plan and execution. Delph runs in, Sigurdson comes out. Digne comes central, Schneiderlin drops wide.. we work it left to right until one of those players can get a free hit on target for the likes of DCL and Richarlison to pounce on the follow up if it’s saved.

It sounds complicated but these guys have all day every day to work on it rather than rip it up and start again when we know this system does work against the big boys when we can counter attack.

Steve Ferns
23 Posted 26/09/2019 at 15:29:08
Drew, in the scenario you describe, Sigurdsson is often marked, swarmed is probably more accurate, by the opposition either just inside or just outside the box. He's the ideal man to shoot from there but we cannot get him the ball due to the marking.

Instead, our system is designed for Andre Gomes to be the one who is in the positions you describe. He does have a good hard shot on him, and can score from distance. His long range efforts have not been particularly accurate or indeed frequent. So, yes we need to work on them, and I would suggest, not having Sigurdsson marked like such, but someone else a bit deeper able to pick the ball up and shoot from distance.

Drew O'Neall
24 Posted 26/09/2019 at 22:36:13
Steve,

Agreed but they can't mark everyone. If Sigurdsson starts in the box and is replaced by Delph, for example, as a runner as they switch positions, they either leave us with one unmarked in the box or switch players.

Sigurdsson isn't the only candidate, he should be one of four options (Iwobi, Richarlison, Digne) interchanging between in, and on the edge of, the box, as we work the ball short (rather than lofting it in to no one) until someone is free to shoot.

It's very hard to deal with that type of movement, worked out on the training field, and it's what teams like Man City do habitually.

Brian Wilkinson
25 Posted 27/09/2019 at 02:13:59
I do not get this "not up to speed" — when was the last time you saw Everton zip from defence to attack without playing the ball out wide, then back? Every time we get the ball on the edge of the box, it either goes out wide or backwards.

What we are lacking is someone getting into the box, when we finally work the ball there. For that, I still think Tosun, given an extended run, could get the goals.

I would even try him alongside Calvert-Lewin, but Silva will not start with 2 attackers.

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