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Ferguson could assume caretaker role for the derby if Silva is sacked

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Everton could put Duncan Ferguson in temporary charge of the first team if things go badly awry for Marco Silva at Leicester today.

That's the claim made by the Daily Mail website who suggest that "a heavy setback" for Silva when the Blues travel to the King Power Stadium would prompt Farhad Moshiri to act knowing that Ferguson, currently a first-team coach, is waiting in the wings.

With Marcel Brands having offered a show of unity on Friday, it was felt that Silva's job was probably safe for the foreseeable future and that he would be in charge of the next two away games against Leicester and Liverpool at the least.

This Sunday tabloid story — plus one in The Mirror asserting that Eddie Howe is being lined up as Silva's replacement — would, assuming there is a shred of truth to either, indicate that the timescale could be moved up.

Original Source: MailSport  


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Mark Guglielmo
1 Posted 01/12/2019 at 00:33:40
This is honestly the best, lololol

Mirror, Sun and Mail working overtime, I see...

Bill Gienapp
2 Posted 01/12/2019 at 00:48:57
I guess he could punch Klopp in the nose or something.
Phil Malone Jnr
3 Posted 01/12/2019 at 00:58:29
Still not quite understanding the negative comments about Moyes. Best football played in the Premier League era for us.
Gavin Johnson
4 Posted 01/12/2019 at 01:19:42
I'd rather have him as interim manager than Moyes or Unsworth
Shaun McGough
5 Posted 01/12/2019 at 01:34:52
Not the answer long term but he could definitely give Moshri, Kenwright, Brands and a whole load of so-called fist team players who are stealing a big living at my club a big shake-up in the wallet and conscience area (not so much the wallet unfortunately) for a massive period of fixtures in Everton history.
Drew O'Neall
6 Posted 01/12/2019 at 05:09:05
Yawn. If I want fake news I’ll find it myself.
Alan J Thompson
7 Posted 01/12/2019 at 05:15:24
Now you know they are taking the proverbial
Alan J Thompson
8 Posted 01/12/2019 at 05:17:22
Whoa, hang on, they wouldn't mean Alex rather than Dunc, could they?
Ed Fitzgerald
9 Posted 01/12/2019 at 06:23:01
Phil Malone Junior

It’s fair to say Moyes did an ok job at Everton but his tenure has in my opinion has with some Blues (younger than 45 perhaps?) taken on some underserved mythic status promoting him as some kind of tactical genius and motivational guru. For those over 50 we are likely to remember Everton wining things and playing more progressive football than was ever served up by Moyes.


We have had much better seasons in the premier league in terms of quality of football under both Martínez (1st season) and Royle (second season). Have a look at the points total and goal differences for Moyes much vaunted 4th position it was 61 points the same as Joe Royle’s sixth position in 1996 and 11 points less than Martínez for getting 5th. The goal difference for Moyes in 04/05 his glorious 4th was minus 1 and for Royles position of 6th it was plus 20 and for Martinez it was plus 22. Moyes should have been sacked in 2004 when we finished 17th. He had 11 seasons as manager and won fuck all got us to one cup final, and in general his football was safe, scared and sterile. His conduct in his final season was disgraceful and underhand.

Royle was there for less than two seasons he saved us from certain relegation when we were bottom in late November on 4pts, we won the FA Cup and never lost in 5 derbies (winning two). Royle left because hamperman wouldn’t sanction a move for Tore André Flo (I think the fee was around 4 million) Can you imagine Moyes taking any kind of similar principled stance apart from protecting his own fat salary and various pay off’s for failure. One manager is an Evertonian to the core and the other has been shown to be football mercenary. For an astute lampooning of Moyes and his kind e.g Allardyce, Hughes, Pullis, McClaren and Pardew I suggest you listen to the Atletico Mince podcast by Bob Mortimer it’s daft, funny and searingly accurate.

I sincerely pray we win today and do the impossible and win on Wednesday too. The atmosphere at Goodison Is toxic and to be fair it’s been poor for a good number of years now. The team and the manager (whoever that is - exception being Allardyce) need our full support and if we lose the next two games we will need Goodison at its most raucous on Saturday. I will be watching from behind the sofa this afternoon and praying for a good result. COYB

Mike Gaynes
10 Posted 01/12/2019 at 07:02:31
Alan J #8, that was my first thought too!
Jim Bennings
11 Posted 01/12/2019 at 07:29:59
It doesn’t matter who’s boss going to January with this crop of jelly bodies players.

We will be in the bottom three come the middle of January, end of!

Tony Twist
12 Posted 01/12/2019 at 08:25:36
For one match and one match alone then ok but long term at this moment with the team the way it is, this would be footballing suicide.
Andy Riley
13 Posted 01/12/2019 at 08:32:31
Think people are pretty divided on Duncan in any sort of managerial role but short term with the fixtures coming up he couldn’t be any worse than leaving Silva in charge and he might galvanise a bit of passion. I certainly don’t think Joey Barton would risk making adverse comments about him!
Steve Brown
14 Posted 01/12/2019 at 08:41:20
Not advocating him as an interim, but worth watching Toffee TVs interview with him on YouTube - Duncan Ferguson the Coaching Years. Made me a bit more appreciative of what he does and did since he joined the Academy team.
Derek Thomas
15 Posted 01/12/2019 at 08:42:06
If it's a one off Dunc had nothing to lose...I hope for two things.

We get a result, a draw is ok, a win magnificent...and Dunc twats the turning idiot. = Job done.

Philip McKeown
16 Posted 01/12/2019 at 08:47:08
Ed Fitzgerald no.9

Spot on

To add to that. The problems at the club run deeper. Bill Kenwright is a celebrator of mediocrity, the alleged pursuit of Moyes only substantiates this further. The culture at the club still needs to change starting at the top

This group of players have failed to perform and showed minimal resilience for 4 managers now (5 if you include Rhino)
I am afraid the manager position has become a poisoned chalice now

Jerome Shields
17 Posted 01/12/2019 at 09:24:06
Everton are not progressing and are now in danger of going backwards.
Derek Knox
18 Posted 01/12/2019 at 09:31:38
Just because he can talk to the cones at Finch Farm, surely doesn't qualify him to be interim Manager does it?

Has he got all his badges? Or is it a case, as in the Treasure of the Sierra Madre, "Badges, badges, we don't need no stinking badges"?

Tony Everan
19 Posted 01/12/2019 at 09:55:06
We need someone in fast, someone with premier league experience who won't be fazed by short term adversity.

Most of all we need someone who the players respect and will react to, a proven manager who knows what he is doing.

It is about to become critical for the whole future of EFC and the whole stadium project going ahead on schedule.

We need to appoint someone who is experienced and represents the safest bet.

Who comes into this catagory? The obvious candidates won't want to come and will be holding out for bigger jobs [Pochettino], others will be divisive and expensive [Benitez]. When we get to the end of the list, we come to Fat Sam, Moyes, Hughes.

There's got to be a better alternative to those last 3, please give me some names to keep my pecker up.

Dave Williams
20 Posted 01/12/2019 at 10:06:29
The whole first team thing needs a damn good shake up. Who better for the next game than Duncan if things go badly today?

As has already been said, no-one expects us to get a point, so why not give him a try? He might just spark a reaction out of them.

Derek Knox
21 Posted 01/12/2019 at 10:10:33
Tony @ 20, Viagra!
Brian Hennessy
22 Posted 01/12/2019 at 10:12:10
So a group of players who are inconsistent and lack motivation could be about to have an interim manager who, as a player himself, was inconsistent and lacked motivation.

You couldn't make it up.

Ken Kneale
23 Posted 01/12/2019 at 10:13:40
Jerome,

Everton are not 'in danger' of going backwards — we have been going backwards for 30 years (apart from the odd stutter). We are like the dog driving the car around in circles on the news this week – finding a gear stick and going around in a circle without realising how we have done it.

The appointment of Duncan Ferguson to the coaching team was a low point – the selection of him to manage the team even for one game would surpass even that! How on earth have Everton reached this point, given our heritage, is a disgrace.

Joe McMahon
24 Posted 01/12/2019 at 10:14:16
Our stock is so low, may as well put one of us in charges.

Liverpool win Champions League last season, win Premier League this season and The People's Club is still being linked to dinosaurs like Moyes, and some fans want him back! It's pitiful.

Just shows that Rafa was always correct.

Trevor Peers
25 Posted 01/12/2019 at 10:14:58
Put Duncan in to square up to Klipperty on the touchline, the German would shit himself... might work as a one-off.
Then pay Pochettino £16 million plus a year to sort us out, starting afresh with the Chelsea game. We can dream.
Eddie Dunn
26 Posted 01/12/2019 at 11:39:38
I hear one of the problems has been communication. Duncan will solve this dilemma.

"Boss, I am in a bad moment."

"At dis ma nut in, awa' an bile yer heid."

James Stewart
27 Posted 01/12/2019 at 13:21:28
April Fools has come early.
Peter Warren
28 Posted 01/12/2019 at 14:35:47
No clue top to bottom. No midfield no defence no right midfield no strikers no manager (Silvas gone and been left out to dry) nobody lined up it’s a shambles)
Marlon Hoff
29 Posted 01/12/2019 at 15:09:11
Can never understand the fascination with Duncan Ferguson. He was never a prolific striker. His highest goal return for us was 9 goals (Across all competitions) and was a loose canon. Like it's been said before on many ToffeeWeb threads, he is the common factor across 5 managers and seems to be untouchable no matter who the incoming manager is (Blue Nose sentiments?). Incoming mangers will not change anything if the tactics at the training ground are the same, just saying.
Adolf Ng
30 Posted 01/12/2019 at 15:44:11
Too bad that we are not talking about Alex Ferguson...
Derek Taylor
31 Posted 01/12/2019 at 15:44:22
He'll do whatever his godfather Kenwright tells him to do. Mustn't cross his life provider. Great for an incoming manager to know he has a right hand man already to mark his card !
Soren Moyer
32 Posted 01/12/2019 at 15:46:20
So we need to chose between Moyes, Big Dunc, Sparky, Howe and perhaps a few others of that ilk? Oh my!!!!!!!
Paul Kelly
33 Posted 01/12/2019 at 15:50:17
Exactly Soren, it's like being on dog shit duties and having the choice of which one to put in the bin first!!!!!!
John Raftery
34 Posted 01/12/2019 at 19:05:56
This is rubbish. He has not even been a number two.
John McGimpsey
35 Posted 01/12/2019 at 19:25:33
The jock takes charge and I'm finished. Blue Bill has planned this for years and can blame the ones asking when we go down.
Richard Reeves
36 Posted 01/12/2019 at 22:05:12
A lot of people have written Ferguson off because of his involvement in the background set up and his lack of experience as a manager but I'm not so sure. Howard Kendall saw something in him to say he would make a good manager. He seemed convinced of that so that means something to me.

I can't see how he could be any worse than Silva, so him in a caretaker role until the right man is brought in would be a good decision, in my opinion.

Christy Ring
37 Posted 01/12/2019 at 23:11:04
Can't be any worse short term.
Paul Birmingham
38 Posted 01/12/2019 at 23:13:02
After Wednesday, we’ll see what happens. Bar a miracle this Wednesday, then perhaps after the Derby, Dunc will be temporarily in charge.

What a mess Everton is in..

David Pearl
39 Posted 01/12/2019 at 23:16:27
It’s a rumour, like all the others. But it is a funny one considering the abuse he gets on here. Of course he is an ever present over the last few managers to come and go. Whatever that means who knows.

All l know and knew is that once we conceded the one goal we would find a way to lose... and we did.

John McGimpsey
40 Posted 02/12/2019 at 08:27:46
Bad back, season ticket for the adelphi on match days, yeah he's the one to help ffs criminal our board and some of our fans get shut as quick as fuck alongside meltface in the front row.. "Oh don't say that he's sick ! " bollocks conned us again..
Kevin Prytherch
41 Posted 02/12/2019 at 08:41:38
Does anyone on here actually witness anything the coaches do on the training ground? - if not - who are we to decide whether he’s up to it?

Do you think there might be a reason why Ferguson has survived 5 managers? Maybe he’s not a bad coach.

Have any players or ex players ever said a bad word about his coaching? Not as far as I know, most have praised him.

Do you need to be a top player to be a top coach? Ferguson was probably superior to half of the managers or coaches in the premier league in his playing days.

This obsession with shooting down ex players without any justification is tiring.

John Graham
42 Posted 02/12/2019 at 12:54:30
Hi Ed (9),

I am over 50 (63) and must agree that Moyes with limited resources, much less than Martínez and the managers after him, did a good job and a better job than any manager since.

Martinez in his first season had the team playing well with a mixture of his own style and players who were used to the Moyes style; after that, the football was dire.

Apart from the '80s with Kendall and the '60s with Catterick, the trophies have been very sparse.

Moyes did himself no favours when he left Everton and, apart from at West Ham, has a terrible record. In my opinion, he should be in the running for manager as he is definitely better than Ferguson, Unsworth and any other managers mentioned.

Ed Fitzgerald
43 Posted 02/12/2019 at 13:18:16
John

We can agree to disagree over Martínez who I thought was a bit unlucky compared to Moyes who should have really been sacked when we finished 17th in his second full season. I note that you haven’t even mentioned Joe Royle who did win a trophy. My issue with Moyes is t that he left under a cloud is that he didn’t win a trophy in over a decade and has been not a bad but dire manager since he left.

Ed Fitzgerald
44 Posted 02/12/2019 at 13:18:16
John

We can agree to disagree over Martínez who I thought was a bit unlucky compared to Moyes who should have really been sacked when we finished 17th in his second full season. I note that you haven’t even mentioned Joe Royle who did win a trophy. My issue with Moyes is t that he left under a cloud is that he didn’t win a trophy in over a decade and has been not a bad but dire manager since he left.

Ed Fitzgerald
45 Posted 02/12/2019 at 13:18:17
John

We can agree to disagree over Martínez who I thought was a bit unlucky compared to Moyes who should have really been sacked when we finished 17th in his second full season. I note that you haven’t even mentioned Joe Royle who did win a trophy. My issue with Moyes is t that he left under a cloud is that he didn’t win a trophy in over a decade and has been not a bad but dire manager since he left.

Gaute Lie
46 Posted 02/12/2019 at 14:50:55
Surely being a big bully does not make a good manager. He is part of the managing team that has failed us. Why replace a rotten apple With a rotten banana?

Rather see Benitez, Howe or some dude from Sz Salzburg or RC Leipzig (>Red Bull teams).

Dave Abrahams
47 Posted 02/12/2019 at 14:58:29
Kevin (41), NoKevin I don’t know what Ferguson does on the training ground or how good, bad or indifferent he is as a coach, I can only guess, if I knew what sort of wages he was on my guess would be a lot more accurate.
Tony Abrahams
48 Posted 02/12/2019 at 14:59:05
Kevin@41, it’s the way the club operates which is of more concern to me because why would Koeman, have picked Duncan over Sammy Lee, when Lee was his first team coach at Southampton?

Duncan loves Everton, he his not going to leave unless he’s asked to but I’ve never known a first team coach outlive so many managers, and think if he had the talent then give him the job because it wouldn’t half stop a lot of speculation of how people think words like so unprofessional, the way things stand right now.

Jeff Spiers
49 Posted 02/12/2019 at 15:09:19
He is 1st team coach, and, judging by his demeanour on the bench, he doesn't seem arsed. Maybe the players aren't bothered anymore, Would the proverbial kick up the arse work? Afraid not. We are in shit street, and the supporters know it.
Adrian Evans
50 Posted 02/12/2019 at 15:09:23
Anybody reading the latest crap to come out the club.
An official is in Portugal tauting a player????????Brands,one of his crap scouts.

Yet we havent appointed a new manager to replace another crap manager them at the top appointed.
When are they gonna learn,never I suspect or when Moshiri has pulled out his millions is living it up in Monaco.
We in Div 1 skint but still 38,000 turning up. Gate receipts wouldnt even pay for Richarlison and wages in the modern game.

Yet there out buying players for a new manager.Oh and our CEO thinks Moyes would be a good fit,even after he came in for some of our squad for peanuts after he left.
Who knows owt about football at our place who makes decisions.
No managers any good coming here, only mercenaries who don't care.
Others buy players you got play,make play your way.
We are where we deserve to be,but not the fans.

Dave Abrahams
51 Posted 02/12/2019 at 15:11:04
Tony (48), the answer to that is Kenwright put the blocks on Sammy coming to Everton with Koeman, arguing that Everton would have had to pay compensation to Southampton for Sammy, and while it was okay to pay the compensation for Koeman it wouldn’t have looked good to Evertonians to pay compo for an ex Liverpool player( Kenwright’s words to a fella who knew Sammy and Kenwright).
Ken Kneale
52 Posted 02/12/2019 at 16:14:41
Ferguson suggests in interview he coaches the 1st team forwards at the Club. Maybe that is why they don't routinely score goals and appear to only play one good game in ten - just like their mentor. Suggesting no one says bad about his ability is hardly a ringing endorsement - many players talked up Martinez and Silva for instance and Ferguson himself broke his usual cold war with the media to shout good things about Allardyce. In short, he and his like are why we are where we are.
Jay Harris
53 Posted 02/12/2019 at 16:32:15
Kevin #41,
"Do you think there might be a reason why Ferguson has survived 5 managers? "
Yes his name is Bill Kenwright and when Duncan went bankrupt Bill allegedly offered him a job for life.

Although Koeman gets lots of stick IMO he was the best manager we had since Moyes. He got pissed off with Kenwrights constant interference and not being able to get the players he wanted so he lost interest and spat his dummy out.

Kenwright, the manipulator, is the main problem at the club. Ask yourself what qualifications DBB had to be CEO of a football club and then ask who put her in that position.

The man who hoodwinked the world and many Evertonians is still at it. We will not be a top club again while he is around.

Kevin Prytherch
54 Posted 02/12/2019 at 18:55:40
Jay
I thought that Ferguson came back to Everton under Moyes, worked a couple of years for free with the youngsters while he got some of his coaching badges then impressed enough to get a 1st team coaches job. Blaming Kenwright for everything is pure speculation.

Ok it’s Wikipedia - but it’s pretty accurate from the reports from Moyes at the time...

Initially Ferguson was a voluntary worker at the academy, working for fellow Scot Alan Irvine, a former mentor of his from his playing career.Although Ferguson remains disappointed with the Scottish FA for what he sees as a lack of support following his sentencing in 1995, he enrolled on a nine-day Scottish FA organised coaching course in Largs, Scotland to earn a UEFA B-Licence. In May 2012, he returned to Largs to achieve a UEFA A licence and in January 2013 he enrolled on a further course and is working towards a UEFA Pro-Licence. In February 2014 Ferguson was promoted to the first team coaching staff at Everton. His first game in the role was a home game against West Ham United on 1 March 2014.

Kunal Desai
55 Posted 02/12/2019 at 19:20:07
Anyone else heard that Unsworth will be leaving Everton to take up a coaching role at Wigan, along with Jeffers?
Steve Ferns
56 Posted 05/12/2019 at 01:27:23
Twitter is all saying the same thing. Silva sacked. Moyes appointed. The “journalists are briefed”.

I despair. Is Brands gone too?

Kieran Kinsella
57 Posted 05/12/2019 at 01:36:04
Steve,

Ideally there will be a presser tomorrow announcing all of them have gone. Brands, Silva, Kenwright, Sigurdssson... even the tea lady.

John P McFarlane
58 Posted 05/12/2019 at 01:39:09
Steve 56 The Echo are carrying the story now which Alan Myers first broke at around 11pm last night on Sky.

Everton set to make Marco Silva decision today as David Moyes and Tim Cahill considered Latest on future of Everton boss Marco Silva and the possibility of David Moyes and Tim Cahill being brought in By Phil Kirkbride Everton FC Reporter 00:49, 5 DEC 2019

Everton are set to make a decision on Marco Silva's future later today with the Portuguese coach braced for the sack. And former Blues boss David Moyes is favourite to come in as his replacement should Silva lose his job.

The 42-year-old is on the brink of being axed following Wednesday night's 5-2 humiliation against Liverpool at Anfield - a defeat that leaves Everton in the bottom three.

Majority shareholder Farhad Moshiri has been reluctant to pull the trigger on Silva and was last night weighing up what move to make as the team's season reached a new low. Appointing Moyes has been discussed at length as has the possibility of bringing Tim Cahill in as the Scot's assistant manager.

Jamie Crowley
59 Posted 05/12/2019 at 01:48:19
Throwing in Cahill to attempt to sweeten the shit cocktail of Moyes won’t work.

Moyes comes in, we go down. Simple as. And we have no self-respect, either.

It has to be rumor and not true.

Sandra Williams
60 Posted 05/12/2019 at 01:48:43
Can't sleep but having nightmares already! Moyes coming back?!!!? Where's my season ticket and a pair of scissors?!
Jamie Crowley
61 Posted 05/12/2019 at 01:50:23
Sandra -

If I come over there and bring a pair of scissors, wanna just stab one another to death?

More fun than going through another Moyes reign!

Bill Gall
62 Posted 05/12/2019 at 01:56:41
Has Cahill got any coaching badges? Looks like we are going from the fat into the fire if this is true.
Derek Thomas
63 Posted 05/12/2019 at 02:12:25
Somebody remind me... without using the 'R' word, what's the next step down from Laughing Stock?

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