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Palace want Tosun on loan

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Crystal Palace are reportedly trying to sign Cenk Tosun on loan for the remainder of the season.

The Turk has fallen to be bottom of the pecking order among Everton's strikers and despite insisting that he wants to stay at Goodison Park to fight for his place, he may have accepted that he needs to move on to ensure his place in his country's Euro2020 squad.

Tosun, who has been the subject of talk linking him with a move to Derby County this week, has been linked with Palace before but nothing came of the speculation. This time, Paul Joyce of The Times among others are claiming that the Eagles are close to securing a temporary deal.

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Jamie Evans
1 Posted 04/01/2020 at 17:53:11
He’s yours as long as we can resurrect the Zaha deal.
John Pierce
2 Posted 04/01/2020 at 18:12:03
Tell Palace to get lost, buy him or do one.
Steve Shave
3 Posted 04/01/2020 at 19:35:12
I'd really like to get shot of him to be honest, will anyone stump up £14-16M it would take to ship him? I can't help but think he'd do well in Germany!
Sam Hoare
4 Posted 04/01/2020 at 19:41:40
This could be our best bet to get rid. He's not picking up value while sat on our bench.

I assume there would be a purchase price and if he plays well and bags a few goals (which I think he would if given starts) then either Palace or another team are going to buy him.

Kim Vivian
5 Posted 04/01/2020 at 20:07:20
I wish people would stop mentioning Everton/us/we and Zaha in the same sentence.
Andrew Laird
6 Posted 04/01/2020 at 20:38:31
A loan might actually make it harder to sell him, as he’s then in the shop window and all other suitors who can afford his wages will see that he’s a dreadful waste of resources. I can’t see him ever succeeding in England, the game is far too quick for him here, Niasse mk2.
Kevin Molloy
7 Posted 04/01/2020 at 20:42:53
the mail are saying we pay cenk £110,000 a week. Please somebody tell me they just made that up.
Jamie Evans
8 Posted 04/01/2020 at 20:45:22
Apologies, Kim @ 5. I didn’t mean to offend you.
Brian Williams
9 Posted 04/01/2020 at 21:02:11
They did indeed make it up. Tosun's on £65k a week mate.
Simon Harrison
10 Posted 04/01/2020 at 21:11:24
#5 Kim, I'm with you, EFC don't need a Zaha type player until the spine and central midfield is fixed.

#9 Brian, I can't believe that we've got Tosun rotting in the wider squad on £65K, and Niasse on £55.

Some Fleetwood players after the U23 game, said that when they were talking with the Everton lads after the game, allegedly, Niasse said he knew he wasn't in consideration for a 1st Team place, but was willing to do what ever he was told for £55 per week and to stay fit... Straight from a 'horses mouth'.

Not a bad attitude really, but, it just shows the level of incompetence of our recruitment over the last three or four years.

Robert Tressell
11 Posted 04/01/2020 at 21:41:15
Tosun is a good example of why there is no point raiding inferior foreign leagues for strikers who score about 1 in 2. 1 in 2 becomes about 1 in 5 in the prem. Unless they're banging in about 30 goals in 20 games as a teenager they will find their level at top end championship. The amount of times Moussa Marega has been linked with us, West Ham etc. He's terrible. Tosun tries hard and is a decent finisher but is so limited. Thank god we have Ancelotti and not Allardyce.
Colin Glassar
12 Posted 04/01/2020 at 22:36:57
Ask Roy to take Niasse, Walcott, Iwobi, Besic, Garbutt, Martina, Bolasie and all the other garbage players we still have on our payroll.
David Currie
13 Posted 05/01/2020 at 03:15:13
Colin, You forgot Keane.
Jim Harrison
14 Posted 05/01/2020 at 03:49:07
I feel for the guy. He tries. He obviously wants to make an impact, he just isn’t up to the level we want.
Mike Gaynes
15 Posted 05/01/2020 at 05:03:28
Robert #11:

"...there is no point raiding inferior foreign leagues for strikers who score about 1 in 2."

Not exactly. Sadio Mane, Teemu Pukki and Raul Jimenez were scoring 1 in 2 (or less) playing in Austria, Denmark and Portugal respectively before they came to the Prem. They've combined for 28 league goals this season.

Nothing wrong with raiding the foreign leagues for strikers. Just gotta target the right strikers.

Derek Knox
16 Posted 05/01/2020 at 09:25:50
I like Tosun, but he clearly is not suited to our system of play, and I fear the Premier League is too quick for him. He knows where the goal is, but rarely gets in a position to execute because of lack of speed.

Maybe doing the guy a dis-service as he has rarely been employed with two up front, a system that he may just benefit from and yield more goals.

The lad should never have been pursued for that amount of money, and he is sitting pretty contract wise, not his fault I know, but he can virtually keep seeing " No I want to stay and fight for my place " and get paid handsomely and just warm the bench every now and then.

Joe McMahon
17 Posted 05/01/2020 at 09:32:38
Derek, because of this plant pot missing his penalty we wont be facing Aston Villa in the league cup semi. I disagree sorry, he joins an incredibly long list of Everton s non scoring strikers.
Derek Knox
18 Posted 05/01/2020 at 09:38:04
Joe, sorry I forgot about his penalty blunder, but in all fairness he wasn't the only one who was disappointing in taking them.
Joe McMahon
19 Posted 05/01/2020 at 09:42:58
Derek I was on holiday in Turkey last year, and was talking to some locals about Tosun, in their assessment they wanted him to be successful at Everton but felt he would struggle with the pace of the PL. IMO he would do okay in one of Europes slower paced leagues.
Paul Birmingham
20 Posted 05/01/2020 at 09:46:06
Cenk, gives his all, but in my view his ability and composure isn’t up to the demands of the EPL.

Best for his career to get a permanent move, but any move should be on Everton’s terms, and also Everton having a royal flush of strikers which we haven’t got, yet.

Eddie Dunn
21 Posted 05/01/2020 at 09:52:47
I also like Tosun. He has proved for Turkey that he can score goals. The trouble is, as others have pointed out, that he is too slow for the PL. Unfortunately he has suffered during his time here with managers playing one up top. He has also often come on from the bench when we are chasing the game.
Things might have been very different for him had we been a team with a midfield that got up quickly to support the strikers, rather than a team pushing wing backs up to pop in crosses but the midfield either too slow to get up in time or concentrating on protecting a leaky defence.
Had we been the sort of team that creates lots of chances then Tosun could have been the sniffer in the box.
Unfortunately he isn't quick, hasn't got a box of tricks and isn't tall. Our style of play has never suited him.
I'd like him to come off the bench and get the winner today though.
Eddie Dunn
22 Posted 05/01/2020 at 10:00:34
Joe@17. He didn't miss the pen, the goalie saved it. The goalie should have been bollocked by the ref for his behaviour, which continued throughout. I would have booked him.
Tosun congratulated Pickford,(who was giving it large after his only save), kissed the ball and Schmikes read it. Shame because Cenk looked confident, and was first up to take one. Shit happens.
Picks didn't save another one.
I personally like his attitude. It's not his fault we paid over the odds. When we signed him, my Turkish mate told me he was bog-standard, a very average player. So much for our scouting.
Neil Jones
23 Posted 05/01/2020 at 10:58:20
NO way will they loan him to Palace will have to be money up front just like they wanted for Zaha
Winston Williamson
24 Posted 05/01/2020 at 11:12:30
Tell Palace that every player has a price, that we’d consider a sale, but only to a club befitting his skill levels...unfortunately that’s not you, Palace. You’re too shit for Tosun.
Winston Williamson
25 Posted 05/01/2020 at 11:13:50
Oh, and tell them we want 15mil, and then if they offer it, tell them 25mil...
Jack Convery
26 Posted 05/01/2020 at 12:07:08
Zaha is going to CFC in the summer. Ireckon thats why CP wouldn't sell for the £50m we were supposed to have offered last summer. CFC who couldn't buy him in my opinion told CP to hang on as they would give £80m. I would not be surprised to see Ross as a make weight in any deal that happens between CP and CFC. Tosun to CP needs to be a permanent transfer to give us some much needed dosh for our own transfers. Maybe Boalsie could be sold this month too. We could possibly sell Michael Keane to Bournemoth who are desperate for a Centre Back, hence the rumours of a cheap buy as cover for Mina and Holgate. Don't forget Sidibe has played centre back.
Derek Knox
27 Posted 05/01/2020 at 12:42:22
Jack @ 26, good shout there regarding Sidibe, he is turning out to be quite a valuable utility man. I like the guy and apart from the odd few mistakes he seems to be settling in well getting regular football.

If push came to shove he could cover for Centre Backs, and remember JP Gbamin should be back shortly who can play midfield or Centre Back too.

I would like them to concentrate on Midfield, with a couple of additions which will ease the pressure on the defence anyway, hopefully a leader and a goalscorer.

Tony Everan
28 Posted 05/01/2020 at 12:45:42
Loan him as a last resort, but better to sell and move on. Wait and see if we get any offers first.

Otherwise it will be groundhog day with Cenk every transfer window.

Same goes for the footballing Octopus.

Steavey Buckley
29 Posted 05/01/2020 at 13:13:59
Clubs are following Turkish clubs view of Tosun, get him as cheap as possible preferably on loan.
Andrew Laird
30 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:12:51
Well he’s not in the fa cup squad so just maybe he’s off? permanently though please.
Alan J Thompson
31 Posted 05/01/2020 at 18:18:20
I think we could make these sort of comments about any of Everton's strikers and hardly any will show enormous improvement until the midfield is sorted and those seemingly incapable of a decent match performance are moved on and most particularly those for whom transfer fees and wages seem out of proportion to performance.
Justin Doone
32 Posted 05/01/2020 at 21:13:03
I'd swap him for Benteke.
Jack Convery
33 Posted 06/01/2020 at 07:29:17
There's 11 more they can have for free.
Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
34 Posted 06/01/2020 at 08:27:24
Remember when we bought him. Allardyce just arrived and we had no one who could score apart from an aging Rooney.

Not his fault he is here.

Allan Board
35 Posted 06/01/2020 at 10:09:02
Can Palace accommodate about 15 more on loan? Or even for free! Thanks Roy, urra star!
Peter Neilson
36 Posted 06/01/2020 at 12:39:03
The Echo reporting "Carlo Ancelotti is reportedly prepared to listen to offers for Gylfi Sigurdsson. Football Insider claim the Everton boss is looking to cash in on the playmaker to boost his transfer kitty this month." Can't see us being inundated with interest nor much of a boost unless there's interest from China.
Allan Board
37 Posted 06/01/2020 at 13:11:40
I'll give you £50 for him, he can be my maestro in my new u12s!
Christy Ring
38 Posted 06/01/2020 at 15:38:04
Can we swap Schneiderlin, and bring Macca back.
Terry White
39 Posted 06/01/2020 at 15:55:42
Not AGAIN, Christy (#38)!
Brian Williams
40 Posted 06/01/2020 at 15:57:43
Peter I think you missed out the words "any and all" there between "to" and "offers."
Keith Harrison
41 Posted 06/01/2020 at 17:26:10
Book a 16 seater, and take another approx. 15 with him, including, but not limited to:

Sigurdsson, Schneiderlin, Niasse, Martino, Sandro, Coleman, Walcott, Delph, Iwobi

I would also put Pickford, but that started a Trump like reaction last time I put it. Feel free to add/delete/amend where you see fit.

Brian Wilkinson
42 Posted 09/01/2020 at 22:59:11
Let’s see how Tosun does when he get service from the midfield at Palace, certainly Not our worst striker and with a run of games recken he will bang a few in for a Palace.
Steve Shave
43 Posted 10/01/2020 at 10:36:40
looks like this is happening, another loan which is annoying. The only positive I can find in this is that he might play regularly and he MIGHT actually get some service and goals which would increase our chances of selling him in the summer.
Jay Wood

44 Posted 10/01/2020 at 10:53:36
Is it rude of me to point out that Moshiri himself was equally culpable about signing Tosun as Sam Allardyce.

He was impressed by Tosun when he played and scored against his local club Monaco in the CL shortly before we signed him.

Who knows if Moshiri mentioned him to Allardyce and the manager then indulged the club owner by going out and buying him?

Phil Greenough
45 Posted 10/01/2020 at 13:01:31
Well, Palace have signed Tosun on loan. One down, several more to go.
Simon Smith
46 Posted 10/01/2020 at 13:02:22
Done deal
Jay Wood

47 Posted 10/01/2020 at 13:09:05
Partially good. Still only a loan so I hope he does well and that Palace has an option to buy.

Otherwise, he will remain yet another anchor on our finances and ability to shop for what we need in the transfer market.

This is Brands and Ancelotti signalling that he really does not have a future at Everton, even with a couple of years still to run on his contract.

It remains a tough balancing act for all concerned.

Dave Lynch
48 Posted 10/01/2020 at 13:15:12
I feel sorry for the lad.
Gary Lineker would struggle in this side, I've a feeling he'll start banging a few in at the Eagles.
Jamie Crowley
49 Posted 10/01/2020 at 13:26:04
Keith @ 41 -

Delete Coleman off that list. I really don't care if he's lost a step, he's played better than Sidibe this season.

And Seamus, for me, is a Blue. Last weekend he wasn't loafing around the pitch. He was the guy putting in an effort, asking why in the fuck his teammates weren't showing for the ball.

I don't personally care how far Seamus' ability degrades as he ages. I want Coleman to retire a Blue. He's just about everything that's still "right" in sport, and one to be proud of. Keep him until he hangs the boots up.

Rob Dolby
50 Posted 10/01/2020 at 13:43:12
Cenk is lost as a lone striker though now that we are warming up to playing 2 up top ironically he may have fitted in better. Guess we will never know.

The Niasse transfer was defo money laundering. New owner full of Rubles buys Russian based player that nobody had ever heard of.

Team for tomorrow




Peter Neilson
51 Posted 10/01/2020 at 14:35:02
He played up front on his own at Besiktas but the Prem appears way too fast for him, he runs in slow motion and can't hold the ball up. Good luck to him at Palace. I don't blame him for signing a lucrative contract with us, just the idiots who signed him. The Turkish Harry Kane indeed.
Simon Harrison
52 Posted 10/01/2020 at 14:45:09
Apparently, according to the BBC this is now a done deal.

I've no idea of the details of the deal, but at least we lower the wage bill a little; as I guess we'll be subsidising his wages at Palace.

Andrew Ellams
53 Posted 10/01/2020 at 14:54:21
Simon, Palace have released the player in shirt pic so it looks pretty much done.
Steavey Buckley
54 Posted 10/01/2020 at 14:55:24
Everton must have the worst management structure in the world. At present, Everton have an expensive squad of players who can't beat a Liverpool under 23 team. Yet, there is a plethora of players on loan that few clubs want to sign full-time because of their ridiculous wage demands or are not good enough to be offered full-time contracts.
Francis van Lierop
55 Posted 10/01/2020 at 15:26:17
Apparantly it's a done deal. Was on our Teletext (yes, we lucky bastards still have it over here)
I'd say good riddance (saluting Erdogan.. bah), should never have been bought.
But let's hope he does his best, so that we can recuperate as much as possible
Daniel A Johnson
56 Posted 10/01/2020 at 15:33:07
Newcastle Utd Supposedly after Ademola Lookman on loan
Mike Gaynes
57 Posted 10/01/2020 at 15:34:24
He'll step right into their lineup -- they're scoring less than a goal a game.

Funny thing about Tosun... sure, we know he's not good enough, but his scoring record for us isn't all that bad. He has chalked up a goal every 254 minutes of play, roughly a goal every three games, and there are plenty of strikers in the Prem with worse numbers than that.

Wish him the best... he has certainly never given less than 100% effort for us.

Brian Williams
58 Posted 10/01/2020 at 15:37:27
Palace, I believe, have the option to buy Tosun at the end of the loan for 20m Euro's.
Mike Gaynes
59 Posted 10/01/2020 at 15:37:36
Daniel #56, they'll have to clean the cobwebs off him. Lookman's season at Leipzig has been a disaster. Four appearances, one start.
Daniel A Johnson
60 Posted 10/01/2020 at 15:43:48
Lookman is a curious one, he has real talent but there are some obvious problems either with him or with his agent/entourage.

I think he's been badly advised and bigged up too much by his agent, he has an inflated self worth.

Terry White
61 Posted 10/01/2020 at 16:01:36
I'm sure Christy Ring will be looking forward to Tosun knocking in a few for Palace with supply from James McCarthy. That is If McCarthy gets off the Palace bench.

One here for you, Christy.

Brian Wilkinson
62 Posted 10/01/2020 at 16:02:26
Jamie@49, you mentioned rather have Coleman than Sidebe, fair point, but next season would you prefer Coleman or Kenny as our right back.

I feel for Kenny, did a great job when Coleman was injured, then was dropped as soon as Coleman was fit again, cannot argue with Coleman coming back in then, but now I would prefer to have Kenny at right back.

Mike Gaynes
63 Posted 10/01/2020 at 16:25:50
Jamie and Brian, couldn't disagree more. I consider Sidibe clearly the class of the three.

Despite having played in just over half our games, he's leading the club in both assists and tackles. He brings qualities in attack that neither Seamus nor JJK can match, and he's also the best one-on-one defender by far. The guy is averaging four tackles a game. Those are Gana-type numbers.

Yes, he has major problems with positional defense, but those can be fixed with good coaching. When Seamus came back from his Blackpool loan, he was one of the worst positional RBs I had ever seen, but Moyes straightened him out. I have no doubt Sidibe can do the same.

In my opinion he's our RB of the future, not Kenny.

Ray Robinson
64 Posted 10/01/2020 at 16:36:43
Tosun is an old fashioned forward who needs service. Probably our best instinctive striker but offers little else in general play apart from effort. He might do well at Palace if they can get the ball into the box quickly. Good luck to him. He's not a shirker!
Jamie Crowley
65 Posted 10/01/2020 at 17:55:46
Brian and Mike -

I think Sidibe runs out of position, thinking he can actually attack, and the vacated space is exploited by shrewd opposition. Coleman goes forward more intelligently.

JJK should, future acquisitions notwithstanding, should be recalled from his loan and start at RB next year, Coleman a capable back up (a la Baines at LB this season), and Sidibe sent back.

I don't rate Sidibe at all. Mike, we may have a rare disagreement regarding player quality!

Steve Shave
66 Posted 11/01/2020 at 07:59:53
I like that team Rob except surely Coleman RB and Sidibe in RM? Coleman more positionally disciplined. Davies for 'Charlie big potatoes' AKA Delph?

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