Everton had apparently agreed a six-month loan deal with promotion-chasing Leeds United this month but the striker rejected it.
Now there are reports that Niasse has turned his nose up at a move to Nottingham Forest until the end of the season.
Niasse is in the last six months of a 4½-year contract with Everton and can leave the club in the summer. Marcel Brands is keen to get his salary off the wage bill for the next six months, however, and is therefore trying hard to secure him a loan deal before the transfer deadline.
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1 Posted 19/01/2020 at 10:41:03
As soon as he put ink to paper he knew hed hit the jackpot. Feet up and make sure you get to training on time so cant be in breach of contract and watch the bank balance grow.
Blame the player all you want but we basically signed him off the back of a couple of YouTube vids and some dodgy report in a Russian mag.
Very poor and not the first time we havent done proper research on a player. Amazing how many tens of millions weve wasted on panic buys over the years. Worryingly we just dont ever seem to learn.
Not saying. Can would be a panic buy mind. Hes certainly better than what we have now.
2 Posted 19/01/2020 at 11:09:57
3 Posted 19/01/2020 at 11:55:16
4 Posted 19/01/2020 at 12:54:09
5 Posted 19/01/2020 at 13:11:50
6 Posted 19/01/2020 at 13:51:28
How long do those players contracts run for, It could then give us an idea when we can release the players and get them off our wage bill.
Nice if all their contracts ended in the Summer with the players out onloan like Sandro, Bolasie etc.
7 Posted 19/01/2020 at 14:18:39
8 Posted 19/01/2020 at 16:03:42
Have a read and see what you think. For me it highlights that Carletto will have to wait till next summer, before we can start a serious overhaul; dependent of course on what Marcel can do in the interim.
9 Posted 19/01/2020 at 16:15:40
10 Posted 19/01/2020 at 16:51:00
11 Posted 19/01/2020 at 17:24:11
12 Posted 19/01/2020 at 17:36:48
13 Posted 19/01/2020 at 17:44:00
14 Posted 19/01/2020 at 17:48:15
15 Posted 19/01/2020 at 17:54:00
Bad times when we still have to rely on players that look like they should have been turfed our three years ago.
16 Posted 19/01/2020 at 18:07:07
17 Posted 19/01/2020 at 18:20:44
For all the noise and acrimony hes survived far longer than many of our other top tier players.
18 Posted 19/01/2020 at 18:21:16
Hornby is 20. He scored 13 in 17 for the u18s, but he found it harder at u23 level getting 8 on 29. In Belgium he has 3 in 10 for a struggling side.
Bassala Sambou is 22. He was the lad we bought from Coventry. He played for our u23s for 3 seasons and scored 17 goals in 52 games. In the Dutch top flight, where he plays for Fortuna Sittard, hes scored just 2 from 17.
Ellis Simms has just turned 19 (same age as Moise Kean). The lad was prolific for the u18s scoring 36 from 38. He has stepped up to u23s properly this season. He has 7 from 15. So his pure goal scoring stats are better than either of the above. However, factor in that all 7 goals have come in the last 10 games. He didnt score, and struggled in the first 5, as he had to find his feet and adapt. He had clearly stepped up a level and now hes stepped his game up too. I think Simms will be training with the first team before long.
In the u18s we have Tom Cannon. 17 year old Tom has 11 goals in a total of 9 games. Hes our number 9.
Lewis Dobbin is also a forward and can play number 9, but hes better on the left wing cutting inside like Richarlison. He has 6 goals from 10 games. However hes already played for the u23s at the age of 16. Now hes 17 weve tied him down to a professional deal.
Theres got to be hope that these three kids can come through. They all look exceptional. Tom Cannon a bit less so as hes a pure goalscorer rather than a lad with a box of tricks or exceptional talent, but he cant stop scoring and thats the most important thing.
Everton u18 just drew 1-1 with Fulham. Their scorer was Cole Palmer. He has 14 for the season putting him ahead of our Tom (3rd top scorer in the league). Palmer is not even Fulhams top scorer though. That honour goes to Jay Stansfield who has a staggering 18 in 10! Might be worth keeping an eye on him. Hes an Exeter lad and his dad died tragically young and hes come through the Exeter youth system before being transferred to Fulham last summer.
Our own Ellis Simms scored 32 in 21 league games last season, and another 5 in 4 cup games. So, we already have an ultra-prolific young striker. One who just needs time to adapt to the level each time he steps up.
19 Posted 19/01/2020 at 18:31:43
20 Posted 19/01/2020 at 18:47:11
I've always wondered why Niasse didn't generate the same sort of affection from our fans as Stracqualursi. Both essentially the same player -- ferocious, heart-on-the-sleeve triers but essentially bereft of talent. Neither one remotely qualified to wear a blue shirt. Yet the Strac was (and remains) a cult hero, while Oumar is pretty much a curse word.
21 Posted 19/01/2020 at 18:50:56
22 Posted 19/01/2020 at 19:00:39
23 Posted 19/01/2020 at 19:11:57
Whoever scouted him needs sacking and if it was Walsh then he needs sacking again !
24 Posted 19/01/2020 at 19:17:24
25 Posted 19/01/2020 at 19:18:21
26 Posted 19/01/2020 at 19:28:35
Probably because Straq came to the club when we didnt have a pot to piss in and was only here on a one season loan.
Its doubtful whether most fans would have still taken to him so fondly if Moyes had splashed out £13 million quid on a bloody donkey!!
27 Posted 19/01/2020 at 20:58:37
The legacy of relegation Roberto, the worst coach who ever earned a living at football.
28 Posted 19/01/2020 at 22:14:06
29 Posted 19/01/2020 at 22:14:28
30 Posted 19/01/2020 at 22:34:10
He really shouldn't be getting any minutes in the team but we have all be saying this for years now!
31 Posted 19/01/2020 at 22:45:46
I seem to recall in January 2016 we had Lukaku and his deputy was Kone (yeah, I know) but Niasse did not fit the Martinez remit.
If I cast my mind back, this was a month before Moshiri came in and when it was clear the Martinez era was soon to end given our league form – despite the cup semis. It seemed a strange signing at the time and it only, once again, reflects badly on the Board who sanctioned it.
As to the man himself... he's wasted his prime years as a striker with us. 4 years. After Koeman's behaviour, you'd think he would have found a way out. But maybe he and his agent realise this was his golden ticket?
This is the problem you have with long and lucrative contracts. If the player comes in and tanks, the club is lumbered, as with Schneiderlin.
I'm fast going off January transfers with signings like Tosun, Walcott, Schneiderlin, Niasse, McGeady et al...
32 Posted 19/01/2020 at 23:02:10
33 Posted 19/01/2020 at 00:02:31
He probably thinks he can retire come the Summer, he does not seem to want to continue his career.
How did Everton ever sign Naisse? I just looked at his scoring record before joining Everton. . .
34 Posted 20/01/2020 at 00:06:32
I bet he rejected Leeds as he knew that, with Bielsa, he would actually have to put a shift in. After 4 years of doing nothing, it would be a total wake up call for him. He's happy to see out his contract here with the U23s and have an easy life.
35 Posted 20/01/2020 at 02:58:15
Not his fault that he was given a good contract and his club fleeced ours over the fee, but I wish he would bugger off!! A waste of wages and space on the bench.
He tries. Nice guy. Great attributes for a Sunday league player.
36 Posted 20/01/2020 at 03:37:15
So there's an off-chance he might not be quite the worst ever.
37 Posted 20/01/2020 at 03:54:15
He also has the best win % of the last 3 Everton managers before Carlo, the highest points total for a season not to qualify for top 4.
But his transfer record is patchy!! For every Lukaku theres a Niasse!
38 Posted 20/01/2020 at 04:55:36
What Roberto could do, and still can do, is coach talent -- in training and on the pitch. He got more quality play out of Rom, Barkley, Stones, Deulofeu, Macca, Mirallas and Funes Mori than anyone else before or since. And he coached Barry to play the best football of his life at age 34.
That's why he's succeeding so brilliantly for Belgium right now. He doesn't have to manage a club. He just has to coach players. If he's smart he'll stick with coaching national teams for the rest of his life. And never, ever go back to a club.
39 Posted 20/01/2020 at 05:50:44
I don't know his current personal circumstances but he had said before that he wanted to be near his wife in Manchester but driving from there to Leeds wouldn't take a great deal longer than Formby to Finch Farm.
40 Posted 20/01/2020 at 07:20:42
Correct. Actually a decent coach. But he took over as manager. Needed a sting DOF to say no!!!
41 Posted 20/01/2020 at 08:10:30
The Niasse transfer, both the acquisition, negotiation for salary, and duration of contract, plus the subsequent handling of the player, tell me that Everton FC have no idea when it comes to player transfers.
Then throw Sandro into the mix on over £100k a week – we genuinely have no idea at all.
42 Posted 20/01/2020 at 08:44:02
43 Posted 20/01/2020 at 09:41:10
Worth every penny, lol!!
44 Posted 20/01/2020 at 11:23:37
45 Posted 20/01/2020 at 12:39:24
He has his pride and we trampled it into the gutter. He kept his end of the deal up even if the club didn't. Never good enough but never stopped working, on that he could not be faulted. It was a poor transfer of an average player who we treated badly because we got it wrong.
Having said all that, he should have taken the Leeds deal because, when he is out of contract, there won't be a line of Premier League clubs waiting to pick him up. Sometimes, you have to cut your losses and move on... he should've.
46 Posted 20/01/2020 at 12:58:17
47 Posted 20/01/2020 at 13:00:47
He kept his chin up and played a key role in the dismal Koeman - Allardyce season, but enough is enough. Naturally he turns his nose up at a loan move, ensuring we're stuck with him to the bitter end. Just leave already.
48 Posted 20/01/2020 at 13:09:10
49 Posted 20/01/2020 at 13:10:15
Although I wouldn't mind betting he will get another club to sign him with a very good signing-on fee and decent wages.
50 Posted 20/01/2020 at 13:15:23
He will only have one career and instead of playing football (something he should be craving to do) and getting fit and putting himself in the shop window, he would rather hide away in his nice little comfort bubble picking up his salary at Finch Farm.
Let's all feel sorry for the multi-millionaire Oumar Niasse hey...….
He might not have a locker but our bench has a massive arse print which has well and truly worn in by him sitting on it for 4 years.
51 Posted 20/01/2020 at 13:18:58
52 Posted 20/01/2020 at 13:30:23
Richarlison and Sigurdsson still out for Tuesday. Michael Keane still not 100%, but likely to be in the squad.
53 Posted 20/01/2020 at 13:32:44
54 Posted 20/01/2020 at 13:34:08
He has a scoring rate for Everton of a goal every 163 minutes, the exact same rate he had in Russia. By way of comparison, Richarlison's Everton scoring rate is one every 214 minutes.
Our best striker of recent decades, Lukaku, scored a goal for us every 161 minutes, and for his Prem career averages a goal every 168. For this season alone, Calvert-Lewin is producing a goal every 156 minutes.
The numbers say that, for all his awkwardness and lack of skills, Niasse ain't all that bad.
55 Posted 20/01/2020 at 13:37:37
After reading this and seeing our wage bill is at 85% of turnover, it is a very worrying read of players we will still have to pay after this summer.
I cannot see how we can possibly go on another big spending spree with the 3-year turnaround with FFP.
With the exception of Niasse and Tosun, I cannot see us shifting any of the others on, so adding new players and wages on top of what we already have is going to be pushing it, if we cannot add the £30 Million from Usmanov to our income, even then we have to show a profit, so with no transfer fees coming in apart from loan deals, I cannot see how we can make a few signings, without going over our FFP limit.
56 Posted 20/01/2020 at 13:38:18
When pressed again, he said: "As I said last week all the names in the newspapers are wrong. All the names on Sky are wrong."
57 Posted 20/01/2020 at 13:40:39
"We have excellent facilities at Finch Farm. I don't want to and there is no need to travel the world to train."
58 Posted 20/01/2020 at 13:53:49
That's some beautifully dressed-up stats. And I am a big stat fan!
But are you serious in this? He's awful. He has got a few goals, so has Shane long, Chris Wood and others that we wouldn't countenance signing. Kobe, he got a hat trick.
He is of course good enough to play the fame for money, but for the wages we pay him? At the level he thinks he is capable of playing at?? What did he do at Cardiff when given the chance? Bugger all.
His highlight at Everton was bailing Koeman out when Walsh buggered up the replacement of Lukaku. That was 3 years ago!!!
59 Posted 20/01/2020 at 13:57:56
I would certainly make a point that losing a cup tie does not mean you will get a week in warmer summer camps. Maybe then next season, we might see a bit more effort, rather than rewarding them with a trip abroad.
60 Posted 20/01/2020 at 14:14:22
However, he hasn't scored a league goal for 2 seasons and his xG shows him to be wasteful.
When you drill down on his career stats (all Premier League stats plus his last season in Russia) it reveals that he is a bad finisher:
16 shots in the 6-yard box = 4 goals. xG is 6.04 which shows he missed the equivalent of 2 open goals.
94 shots in the penalty area = 13 goals. xG is 15.77, which is the equivalent of missing almost 3 open goals.
29 shots from outside the box = 3 goals. xG is 1.44, which shows he scored speculative efforts that were difficult to score.
It's the stats inside the box that give concern. This is the striker's bread and butter.
The main problem I have with Niasse, other than the fact he looks like Bambi on Ice at times with zero coordination, is that he has zero awareness of what's around him, and once he gets the ball, it's like Niasse v the opposition on his own.
61 Posted 20/01/2020 at 14:23:58
That's along way around saying not good enough!!
62 Posted 20/01/2020 at 14:29:53
63 Posted 20/01/2020 at 14:32:43
We know he's been working with Calvert-Lewin, and maybe some of his teaching has rubbed off, because Calvert-Lewin has dramatically improved in what was previously a major weakness in his game -- anticipating chances.
Jim #61, he's definitely not good enough -- but he's also not the quivering pile of crap that so many here describe.
64 Posted 20/01/2020 at 14:34:27
You been smoking some craaaaazy shit if you think it's Niasses training with Calvert-Lewin that's helped him.
65 Posted 20/01/2020 at 14:39:07
I know Unsworth said that Niasse worked on movement with Calvert-Lewin, but we are talking 4 PL2 games back in 2016. If Niasse is that good a teacher though, why not sign him up as a coach, because he's not an elite-level footballer, that's for sure.
66 Posted 20/01/2020 at 14:40:38
He's not very good, goes without saying, but I prefer him to Tosun and, let's be honest, both of them have got fantastic agents!!!
67 Posted 20/01/2020 at 14:41:19
68 Posted 20/01/2020 at 14:43:26
“When Oumar worked with us previously when he was out of favour, he worked with Dominic Calvert-Lewin and the two of them together, for that six-month period, were outstanding. I'm sure if you asked Dominic, that period, working with Oumar, his honesty, his movement, his never-say-die attitude was something Dominic would take a lot from in his development.
“It's the same with Ellis. Ellis is new to this group so we've had him watch Oumar a little bit, then we've had him playing alongside him. I cannot speak highly enough of Oumar.”
69 Posted 20/01/2020 at 14:45:14
True. But he is nowhere near good enough to be near the bench of a club with the aspirations that Everton have.
Stats can be manipulated one way or the other, but here is a question that should indicate whether he is worth having around, would any club in the top 6 to 8 in the table currently take him off us, even on a free? Not a chance!! Aside from his wages, he simply isn't a good enough player.
70 Posted 20/01/2020 at 14:46:29
One goal every 163 minutes sounds amazing in theory but he is very rarely in the starting eleven.
Translate that to something say like-He's given the last 15/16 minutes of games we are chasing or closing out. Then that is one goal every ten games, not so good.
On his contract, we gave to him, we should honour it, in my opinion.
71 Posted 20/01/2020 at 14:48:11
72 Posted 20/01/2020 at 14:49:49
73 Posted 20/01/2020 at 14:52:57
74 Posted 20/01/2020 at 14:54:07
As I said before, definitely not good enough -- but definitely not a steaming shit pile either.
75 Posted 20/01/2020 at 14:58:53
So, Niasse has been helping Calvert-Lewin with his headers?
Sorry, Rhino can say whatever in the papers, we have watched this guy, on and off, for 4 seasons. He just isn't good enough.
76 Posted 20/01/2020 at 14:59:01
Those 4 games were:
Everton 5 Arsenal 0 - 19/9/16
Everton 2 Man Utd 0 - 26/9/16
Everton 6 Reading 3 - 17/10/16
Everton 1 Southampton 1 - 20/11/16
77 Posted 20/01/2020 at 15:12:32
And Jim, I didn't "manipulate" the stats, I just quoted them. You don't like 'em, go tell Transfermarkt to change 'em.
78 Posted 20/01/2020 at 15:15:30
55 grand to train and play with the U 23s.
79 Posted 20/01/2020 at 15:17:33
80 Posted 20/01/2020 at 15:20:33
81 Posted 20/01/2020 at 15:24:56
We would love to palm Schniederlin off to Marseille, Monaco, or somewhere, and them pay his wages, but no such offer has come in.
It's one thing to "steal a living" or "stink the place out" it's another to refuse to leave.
82 Posted 20/01/2020 at 15:29:28
83 Posted 20/01/2020 at 15:31:38
84 Posted 20/01/2020 at 18:01:07
85 Posted 20/01/2020 at 18:05:41
86 Posted 20/01/2020 at 18:09:32
87 Posted 20/01/2020 at 18:14:08
88 Posted 20/01/2020 at 18:22:30
89 Posted 20/01/2020 at 18:24:30
90 Posted 20/01/2020 at 18:32:33
91 Posted 20/01/2020 at 18:35:01
Rock n roll lifestyle, eh?
92 Posted 20/01/2020 at 19:51:07
93 Posted 20/01/2020 at 20:43:39
94 Posted 21/01/2020 at 21:18:20
It doesn't look far on a map, but its a bloody car park for most of the day.
He'd be better off signing for a London club and hitching a ride with the Manchester United fans.
95 Posted 22/01/2020 at 05:30:22
96 Posted 24/01/2020 at 15:42:15
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