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Mo Besic unlikely to stay with the Blades

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There are reports in the national media today that Mo Besic, who has been on loan with Sheffield United all season, is unlikely to stay with the Blades as Premier League games get back underway later this month.

It seems that Everton's midfield misfit will not extend his loan agreement at Bramall Lane beyond the end of June, nor will there be a permanent move on the table, with suggestions that the player's agent is pricing him out of any deal.

Besic, who will be 28 in September and should be at this peak, is about to enter the final year of his 5½-year extended contract at Everton — granted to him under Roberto Martinez. The Bosnian international has only started two games in the Premier League this season, both against Manchester City, while he also netted in the FA Cup against Millwall.

Blades boss, Chris Wilder said last week that he feared one of his players would not re-sign because 'of an agent who thinks there is more money in this football club than there actually is' — taken to be a reference to Besic's representative.

As a result, Besic is expected to end his loan spell and return to Everton by the end of the month, without playing any more games for Wilder's side (although he hasn't played since January), putting the onus on Marcel Brands to find a buyer or another loan deal for next season, assuming Carlo Ancelotti sees no value in examining just what he has inherited.

However, Besic will not be able to play for the Toffees until next season, as Premier League rules prevent this, meaning his season will have effectively ended in January, giving him and his agent an extended period in which to plan out his future.



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Tony Everan
1 Posted 01/06/2020 at 14:04:37
Mo's in no-man's land again. Not good enough to have a permanent place in our midfield and on too much money for the likes of Sheffield United to take him on full time. He won't give up his wages to move elsewhere, so we'll end up paying him half his wages to play for someone else. Another throwback to the amateur way the club went about recruitment in the past.

It was an ill-conceived decision extending his contract, he's got some attributes but I just don't think he has ever showed anywhere near enough quality to play for EFC.

Sam Hoare
2 Posted 01/06/2020 at 14:26:31
Almost totally forgot about Besic!!

How many mediocre central midfielders can one club have?

Schneiderlin, Delph, Besic, Davies, Sigurdsson, Gomes. With Gbamin seemingly on the treatment table for ever.

I'm pretty sure there is not a good midfield pair to play in a 4-4-2 in there. Perhaps Gomes and Delph is the best bet? Though neither is great defensively. And to be honest neither is good offensively either!

Brands better get the CM recruitment right this summer. We have some decent players but are so poor in the crucial middle.

Dennis Stevens
3 Posted 01/06/2020 at 17:53:16
Besic always reminds me of one of my favourite poems, A.E. Housman's The New Mistress, as he seems to get a mention at the end:

"Oh, sick I am to see you, will you never let me be?
You may be good for something, but you are not good for me.
Oh, go where you are wanted, for you are not wanted here."
And that was all the farewell when I parted from my dear.

I will go where I am wanted, to a lady born and bred
Who will dress me free for nothing in a uniform of red
She will not be sick to see me if I only keep it clean
I will go where I am wanted for a soldier of the Queen.

I will go where I am wanted, for the sergeant does not mind,
He may be sick to see me but he treats me very kind.
He gives me beer and breakfast and a ribbon for my cap,
And I never knew a sweetheart spend her money on a chap.

I will go where I am wanted, where there's room for one or two,
And the men are none too many for the work there is to do.
Where the standing line wears thinner and the dropping dead lie thick,
And the enemies of England they shall see me and be sick.

A bit of a tenuous link, I know, but that's the lock-down for you!

Robert Tressell
4 Posted 01/06/2020 at 18:12:25
Tenuous and poetic Dennis. He always reminded me of someone with some talent but a complete lack of discipline (in terms of positioning and temperament). Like half a dozen or so others, we gave him a long contract because we were skint and were desperate for someone like him, Garbutt, Pennington etc to come good in the end.

Fortunately we're not in that position now (we waste money on much more expensive crap these days). Presume he'll grow rich for another season of not playing football with us before seeing out his career somewhere like Cyprus.

Tony Abrahams
5 Posted 01/06/2020 at 19:03:48
The end of the gravy train can't come quick enough, when you look at the vast sums of money average footballers have earned for doing very little.

It's obvious he's been intent on running down his contract rather than signing permanently for another club for a couple of years now. If the money does dry up in football, then it can't come quick enough for some of the luckiest people in the world, imho!

Mike Gaynes
6 Posted 01/06/2020 at 20:14:57
Bit of a reach, Dennis, but TW is definitely a classier place for your injection of poetry!
Kieran Kinsella
7 Posted 01/06/2020 at 20:52:39
Sam,

I forgot about everyone. Having been out of my daily obsessional habits for two months, last night I started trying to think of our lineup for the Liverpool game. It took me ages to remember any of our midfielders except Schneiderlin and Davies.

I never did remember Delph, or Besic for that matter. And yet, I can still easily remember the likes of Tony Thomas and Mitch Ward. Did I feel more invested in that team? Am I just losing my marbles?

Sam Hoare
8 Posted 01/06/2020 at 20:57:37
Not losing your marbles, Kieran. We just have a very forgettable midfield!
Tony Abrahams
9 Posted 01/06/2020 at 20:59:04
I've heard Everton have got six injured players, Kieran, and Mina is out for a few weeks already.
Minik Hansen
10 Posted 02/06/2020 at 00:42:00
I was gonna write ‘at least he got game time', before I read the article... well, at least he played a couple of games?

It's not the player's fault, what has brought this messed mix of a squad. Some have been got rid of, there is hope.

Brian Wilkinson
11 Posted 02/06/2020 at 00:59:28
Stick him in the midfield for the derby, what happens after that who knows, but instruct him to get out there and kick the shite out of them.
Derek Thomas
12 Posted 02/06/2020 at 01:33:43
Revised modern version; Henry VI, Part 2, Act IV, Scene 2.
"The first thing we do, let's kill all the Agents ".

Brian @ 11; Shouldn't that be the plan for All Derbies no matter if Besic is in the team or not.

Martinez extended his contract?? Who was the manager who got the sack for taking bungs for transfers (alegedlly) Graham? ... Hmmm.

David Currie
13 Posted 02/06/2020 at 04:16:16
Sam @2, You are correct, we do not have one top central midfielder at the club, really hope Carlo can address this in the summer.
Brian Wilkinson
14 Posted 02/06/2020 at 10:05:44
It should be, Derek @11. Sadly though hard to find a derby in recent years where we have gone out and tried to boss the match and competed. The last one that springs to mind is the Anfield derby a few seasons ago when Gomes had that chance from a rebound. Other than that, we have been piss-poor in both tackling and defending.
Paul Tran
15 Posted 02/06/2020 at 10:21:07
For me, Besic is the quintessential modern Everton player. Has some talent, rarely shows it. Chronically ill-disciplined.

During his spells injured, suspended, or on loan, people's memories go mad and they convince themselves he's a good player... then he comes on the pitch and proves them wrong. And, of course, he's on a long contract with prohibitively high wages.

We finished a good 5th and that summer he was the only addition we made, barring the already-here Lukaku.

Sums us up, doesn't it?

Tony Abrahams
16 Posted 02/06/2020 at 11:33:43
Very good point Paul T, because I can still remember his performance in the first leg of the league cup semi against Man City, when he showed us he could do a bit of everything.

Quick across the pitch, quick to see a pass and into the tackle, and quick to take the ball forward. In other words everything in his locker to be a really good central midfield player, or maybe just good enough to give us that one great game every blue moon! Seeing as it was against City.

Martin Reppion
17 Posted 02/06/2020 at 15:07:11
I always saw something of a player In Besic.
But then again, I only have one fully working eye and that one sees everything in a blue tint.
Going back to my youth I loved Alan Whittle and Andy Rankin!
But at least with those guys you know they put a shift in for what today wouldn't get a decent performance from a National League reserve.
Yes, Lockdown has a lot to answer for. Everything looks different.
James Flynn
18 Posted 02/06/2020 at 15:56:25
Besic remains the self-check, waste of money he's been since we signed him.

If Roberto wasn't watching him play against Argentina in the 2014 World Cup, he'd never have signed him, because he never heard of him before that game.

Gifted several millions for a sprinter's pace and acceleration and nothing else.

Mike Gaynes
19 Posted 02/06/2020 at 17:22:58
Tony #16, yep, trouble was that's the only impressive performance he ever put out in my book. One out of 56.

Never rated him from day one, but I had to shake my head for two years while folks here waxed rhapsodic over his work rate and "bite"... none of which ever translated into quality football.

Derek Taylor
20 Posted 02/06/2020 at 17:59:24
I wouldn't automatically expect the new management team to be any more astute than all their recent predecessors. Having limitless funds is no guarantee of quality signings if the judgement of the Managers, Directors and DoFs involved is as flawed as it has been in the 'New Age' and before.

Most of us see the present squad as at least four players short of the quality mark necessary to trouble the Top Six and whilst we hope that Ancelotti still has a little magic left to sprinkle on the army of journeymen we have somehow acquired, few of us would bet on it.

Colin Glassar
21 Posted 02/06/2020 at 20:31:08
I like Mo, for his passion and effort, but my god – we seem to be cursed with players we can't get rid of and permanently injured players!
Bill Gienapp
22 Posted 02/06/2020 at 22:31:27
Hard to believe he has yet another year on his deal. He hasn't even been part of the first team picture since Martinez was here.
Justin Doone
23 Posted 02/06/2020 at 23:36:36
I don't blame him if he's not getting game time. Sheffield Utd have had a great season, one in which he hasn't played very often which is a shame. But as an on loan player, you want to be playing.

I liked Besic. He'd have been a great player if he was born and played a few decades earlier. The hard grity (dirty) midfielder that all sides had to close out games and stop the creative (good) players playing.

Sadly another Everton CDM purchase that got seriously injured before he could show us what else he could do.

We have worse players on our books, some that have actually gotten game time this season. I'll welcome him back, but not as a defender. He's a defensive midfielder, get him to man-'mark' Mane or Henderson 'out of the game'.

Mark Andersson
24 Posted 03/06/2020 at 09:29:32
I remember the Besic move being a drawn-out yawn... and once again, he turned out to be a dud.

Carlo really does have an enormous job on his hands and frankly I can't see him having success because of the piss poor way the club as a whole is being run.

Steve Hogan
25 Posted 03/06/2020 at 10:25:50
I think it will be a full two years before the last of the deadwood has vanished, if you look at some of the contracts that have been handed out. Shame really, because we have a really astute manager whose hands will be tied to a certain extent, when recruiting the player's HE wants.

We seem to have an endless list of players deemed not good enough by previous clubs, but who have found quite a nice lucrative home at Everton, and given lengthy contracts to boot.

The Covid-19 crisis couldn't have come at a worse time, those players who will realistically not be part of the manager's plans for next season, will not only have seen their transfer values drop dramatically, but will be even more inclined to stay on their fat inflated salaries, and let their contracts run down.

Martinez, Koeman, Silva, Walsh, and probably a few others, have a lot to answer for re their piss-poor recruitment of players.

Kevin Prytherch
26 Posted 03/06/2020 at 10:44:53
In terms of contracts, Besic is not a priority to sell – he's on about £30k a week, which is less than Martina.

I'd be happy getting rid of Sigurdsson and Schneiderlin, while keeping Besic as 4th / 5th choice midfielder. He'd put more of a shift in than Schneiderlin at £70k per week less.

Brian Harrison
27 Posted 03/06/2020 at 11:13:45
We have finally got a top-class manager, but he will be severely hampered in his plans due to the effect coronavirus will have on the club's finances. Also, he must look at some of the players still on our books like Besic, Bolasie, Martina and think "Who the hell signed these players?"

While they have tried to lessen the financial burden on the club by loaning out these players, it's quite obvious that the clubs they have been loaned too have no interest in making the loan permanent.

So maybe we need to bite the bullet and let these players go for little or no money and get them off the books, as I don't see what point there is in holding on to these players who will never play for the club again.

Despite all the nonsense being reported about us being interested in certain players, I believe swap deals or taking players on short-term loans will make up most of our transfer activity when the window opens.

Let's hope that we adopt a better approach to transfers than we have in the last 4/5 years. Make one or two top signings rather than throwing money at bang-average players that don't seem to make any overall improvement to the squad.

Brian Murray
28 Posted 03/06/2020 at 11:32:53
Brian post 27. Even before this virus there was no way we were getting any takers for Sigurdsson, Schneiderlin, Bolasie etc. As you say, bite the bullet and release them all asap.

Yes, we have a decent manager now but scrambling about with Lossl as back-up Number 2 when we badly need a dominant Number 1 is crazy. Hopefully he sees the picture and has it all planned. If not, it will be same old...

Sam Hoare
29 Posted 03/06/2020 at 13:41:52
Brian @28, releasing them makes no sense. We would likely have to pay off the entirety of their contract.

Better off loaning the players out and hoping you can find someone to pay between 30-60% of their wages over the period.

Sigurdsson we should be able to sell in theory. He's only 30 and his technical skillset mean he'll be able to operate at close to his best for another 4 years or so. He'd have to drop his wages but someone in China or MLS or maybe a promotion team would stump up £10m+ for him surely?

Brian Harrison
30 Posted 03/06/2020 at 14:50:27
Sam,

Yes, if you can get someone to pay part of these players' wages, then yes, but it seems to get harder and harder to get these players loan deals with other clubs. The players have contracts which mean go out on loan or stay at Everton – the money is still the same.

I don't know why you single out Sigurdsson for a move. I can think of many before him who need shipping out. I would suggest that any player who hasn't played more than 3 or 4 games this season needs unloading pretty quickly. Whoever gave Besic a 5½-year contract needs locking up.

Sam Hoare
31 Posted 03/06/2020 at 15:48:43
Brian, yes but we take less of a financial hit if we can send them out on loan. Schneiderlin is not good but there will be some French club happy to have him if they have no transfer fee and only pay him £30-40k per week.

I only picked out Sigurdsson because, out of the players you mentioned, he would be most likely to have suitors.

Jay Wood
[BRZ]

32 Posted 03/06/2020 at 16:33:41
The transfer fees paid, the salaries rewarded and the number of generously extended improved contracts on a good number of players for 5-7 years, together with the turnover of managers, has seriously hamstrung us.

Every penny counts, whether it is a 'pauper' promising academy player on a few £1000 a week/month, or a big earner on £120,000 a week.

It has long been evident that, due to the club's own mis-management, we have encumbered ourselves with too much high-paid mediocrity that sensible financial husbandry at other clubs will not take off our hands.

Loan deals and sharing the salary? Fine.

Buying the player? Yer 'aving a larf.

That situation is hardly going to improve post-Covid-19, is it?

We are stuck with these players until their contracts expire and they walk away as free agents.

It is totally fair, in that light, that we can already start to judge Marcel Brands and his recruitment as we need a better model and practices.

And for me the one thing he has totally failed to deliver on to date which he achieved previously is to buy the unknown raw gems for pennies, not merely potential to develop in the academy, but ready-to-go and make an immediate impact for the first team.

He has been here two years now. It is time to deliver on that front because, given situations like Mo Besic, that model gives us a better chance to start seeing some improvement in performances and position.

ps: I am so relieved that only 1-2 in this thread just hint at Mo Besic being able to 'do a job for us'.

His last appearance in an Everton first-team shirt was an early season Euro League game 3 summers ago.

His last Premier League game: February 2017.

Two seasons playing for a Championship side.

Only just before the virus outbreak did he start getting game time at the promoted Blades this season.

I think it's a reasonable assumption to say he ain't ever gonna 'do any sort of job' for Everton.

Jay Harris
33 Posted 03/06/2020 at 17:39:45
Jay,
I think its too early to judge Brands.

He inherited a major shitfest and had to get the squad thinned down before he had the funds or the go ahead to bring in desired players.

That was also hampered by Silva and Blue Bill's involvement I am sure.

Having said all that I prefer the manager to have total control over his first team squad and who is brought in.

All top managers are much better at identifying players than DOF's IMO.

Jay Wood
[BRZ]

34 Posted 03/06/2020 at 18:22:39
Jay, I'm not dismissing or judging Brands prematurely.

I like him. I trust in him. I think he has status and obviously access to boardrooms of other clubs in high places.

I just highlighted one aspect of his role - the recruitment of the cheap, raw, unknown, ready-to-go diamonds who could improve the first team NOW!

He did that at all of his previous clubs.

He has not landed one such recruit at of that category.

It's my opinion that we need him to repeat that kind of success he achieved with his Dutch clubs.

Robert Tressell
35 Posted 03/06/2020 at 18:35:56
Funnilly enough, Jay, Steve Walsh did okay with those sorts of signing. Lookman, Onyekuru, Vlasic, Gibson – all youngsters of talent who made the club money – and one still with us who may save us plenty.

On Bowler, we will probably break even. It was the established players that the Walsh era failed at (although Pickford, Keane, Sigurdsson and Gueye can all be good in the right system).

I moaned a bit about Brands the other day but Sam H rightly pointed out (as per comments above) that he inherited too big a mess to do his job properly. The Brands job can only really start Summer 2021 and 2022 because that's when all our dross is out of contract. From there, he can build a squad.

In the meantime, it's an uncomfortable balance. By no means perfect but his signings so far have not been flops at least (albeit in some cases a bit expensive compared with what else was available – eg, Mina and Iwobi).

Darren Hind
36 Posted 03/06/2020 at 19:15:43
Brands has deffo got access to boardrooms. I just wish he didn't have access to ours.

He'll always get a warm welcome at Arsenal. They must have thought they would never hear from Everton again after having us over with Walcott. Imagine their surprise when Marcel came back and emptied another wheel-barrow full of cash on the carpet for an even worse player.

Mind you, that is nothing compared to the welcome he would receive at the Nou Camp. £75 Million for Gomes, Digne and Mina.

The embarrassment is almost a physical pain.

David Currie
37 Posted 03/06/2020 at 23:02:12
Hard to disagree with your post, Darren, I believe there has to be players out there who are equal to the ones you mention at lower prices.
Martin Berry
38 Posted 04/06/2020 at 11:22:18
Can't fault the player's passion and effort but, with respect, he is not good enough for what we need to progress.

I wish him well wherever he moves to and he will certainly not let them down.

Sam Hoare
39 Posted 04/06/2020 at 11:46:01
Yeah, I'm hopeful that Brands will come good but there's no denying we have overpaid for some players so far. Iwobi and Mina are the obvious ones.

I think Digne has proved good value and Kean remains to be seen. Gbamin I think would have proved an excellent buy but sadly we may never know.

In terms of younger players, has out academy not been under a transfer ban for the last year or so?

Steve Brown
40 Posted 04/06/2020 at 12:30:51
Brands's signings, Gomes, Mina, Richarlison and Digne, all have resale potential that may yield us a profit in the future. We can't really say yet for Iwobi – Darren H, surely we should show him the patience you have rightly advocated for our young players when plenty on TW were writing them off? He is 24 years old and had played a total of 18 games for us. It is hard to make an assessment on Gbamin and Kean, but let's see.

We can all safely say that Sigurdsson, Schneiderlin, Keane, Williams, Martina, Bolasie, Klaassen, Ramirez, Walcott and Tosun have no significant resale value. We are having to loan them out season on season, as we can't give them away due to their salaries and nobody will pay any fee for them. We will only be able to properly assess Brands when he has cleared out that dross to create some space on the wage bill.

Darren Hind
41 Posted 05/06/2020 at 10:52:50
Steve,

Of course I will show patience with Iwobi... and Kean and any other youngster who pulls on an Everton shirt. I have no axe to grind with these boys, nor do I believe they will give less than 100%.

I have seen enough of these boys to form an opinion on them. I don't see the clear and obvious signs which I saw in Calvert-Lewin and Holgate. I don't even think either of them will play as many Premier League games as the much-maligned Davies. I just think they (and other) Brands signings are not of the calibre we need to bring the club forward – although I haven't completely given up on big Yerry.

Brands is simply serving up more of what Walsh, Koeman and Allardyce gave us. Other people's rejects.

I don't think any of these boys have come with the intention of failing. They will get 100% backing and support from me throughout the games I attend. It won't be their fault if they are not good or consistent enough – and if they can prove me wrong, even better.

Ancelotti has proven he can be, at the very least, a match for the best, but he won't do it with this set of players.

Much depends on a dramatic improvement from Brands. The words "could do better" don't even come close...

Conor McCourt
42 Posted 06/06/2020 at 17:34:53
I think there is a lot of rightful criticism about the lack of contribution of Mo Besic to the club. However, while there is justifiable annoyance displayed with pre-Brands signings, Marcel continues to get a free pass as we can see from posts 23 and 33 amongst others.

The reason I find this staggering is that Mo was a gamble from an unknown club who had just put Messi in his pocket and was the stereotypical type that Moyes and Martinez had to unearth given the financial restrictions they operated under.

Under Marcel, we are in a different paradigm and have spent the guts of £200 million putting us at the top for outlay in the Premier League during Brands's time. We have been a big-time operator with a small-time output. Our sum reward is that one player has excelled who incidentally was the previous manager's acquisition.

In addition, we sold our best player for a paltry fee and to date we haven't seen a substantial increase in the quality of the squad or the performance level of the team for which Marcel should be judged. To give an example the midfield area from left to right is possibly the worst in years.

Our immediate aims should really be to compete for a top-six position given the finances yet I can only find three players in Holgate, Calvert-Lewin and Richarlison who are worthy of that company. This in spite of over ten players signed with the aim of us getting there. I am sick hearing about the problems he clearly inherited but I am judging him solely on his performance and his outlays.

I certainly understand with empathy that Marcel has been particularly unlucky with Gomes and Gbamin and like most believe that they, along with Kean, Digne and Mina, could turn out great additions for us. However, two years in and we still speak in terms of Marcel with hope and belief rather than substance.

To contrast, Solksjaer has just spent less than Brands on three players who have all made an immediate difference to their squad in Maguire, Bassaka and Fernandes.

Why do we constantly make excuses for a man who thinks that Delph and Iwobi are good enough for this club? They are both shocking signings for different reasons and should never have been targets for a club with the financial resources at our disposal and the objectives we have.

Peter Gorman
43 Posted 10/06/2020 at 03:55:48
Hear, hear, Connor.

Though I doubt those three Utd signings would have booked a gig with us, they do serve to show how we are not getting value for the money we are actually spending. Moise Kean has been nothing short of an utter waste.

Mo Besic, on the other hand, cost the club a mere £5 million and was, as you said, reminiscent of the Moyes-era gamble, the type that had landed Arteta, Pienaar, Lescott etc.

He never worked out for us but he is hardly evidence of some pre-Brands era largesse.

Conor McCourt
44 Posted 10/06/2020 at 14:42:41
Peter it's not just financially where questions should be asked of Brands. I feel there are also questions of his professionalism and strategic methodology.

In the first transfer window, Brands impressed us all with his sophisticated approach to the squad. He seemed to identify relationships such as Keane and Zouma, he addressed key deficiencies; with no creativity in midfield, he sought Gomes and Digne for the problem left-back area, with Richarlison sought to deliver goals. It was like he was assembling the jigsaw piece by piece and this looked a great start.

However, this summer, it's not just bad judgement which has let him down but poor planning. Take the midfield area: before he arrived, there were two dynamic players in Gueye and McCarthy. We now don't have a single player with dynamism and even Gbamin isn't that type of player even though quite athletic. This is a serious oversight from a guy who is supposed to be a master at assembling a squad and has left a pedestrian lopsided midfield.

Again his logic must be questioned in bringing players like Gomes and Delph into the squad. Both of whom have injury concerns and certainly take a chance on Gomes but the other midfielder you are bringing in must then be robust.

Furthermore, as others have touched upon, only Gbamin is an unknown where Marcel has displayed a level of foresight and judgement. The other players brought in were seasoned internationals and his entire outlay portrays someone with a great social network but devoid of a real critical eye where very few uncut diamonds seem to be in the pipeline.

For me, it's a case of all fur coat and no knickers with Marcel to this point.

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