There are reports in the national media today that Mo Besic, who has been on loan with Sheffield United all season, is unlikely to stay with the Blades as Premier League games get back underway later this month.
It seems that Everton's midfield misfit will not extend his loan agreement at Bramall Lane beyond the end of June, nor will there be a permanent move on the table, with suggestions that the player's agent is pricing him out of any deal.
Besic, who will be 28 in September and should be at this peak, is about to enter the final year of his 5½-year extended contract at Everton — granted to him under Roberto Martinez. The Bosnian international has only started two games in the Premier League this season, both against Manchester City, while he also netted in the FA Cup against Millwall.
Blades boss, Chris Wilder said last week that he feared one of his players would not re-sign because 'of an agent who thinks there is more money in this football club than there actually is' — taken to be a reference to Besic's representative.
As a result, Besic is expected to end his loan spell and return to Everton by the end of the month, without playing any more games for Wilder's side (although he hasn't played since January), putting the onus on Marcel Brands to find a buyer or another loan deal for next season, assuming Carlo Ancelotti sees no value in examining just what he has inherited.
However, Besic will not be able to play for the Toffees until next season, as Premier League rules prevent this, meaning his season will have effectively ended in January, giving him and his agent an extended period in which to plan out his future.
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1 Posted 01/06/2020 at 14:04:37
It was an ill-conceived decision extending his contract, he's got some attributes but I just don't think he has ever showed anywhere near enough quality to play for EFC.
2 Posted 01/06/2020 at 14:26:31
How many mediocre central midfielders can one club have?
Schneiderlin, Delph, Besic, Davies, Sigurdsson, Gomes. With Gbamin seemingly on the treatment table for ever.
I'm pretty sure there is not a good midfield pair to play in a 4-4-2 in there. Perhaps Gomes and Delph is the best bet? Though neither is great defensively. And to be honest neither is good offensively either!
Brands better get the CM recruitment right this summer. We have some decent players but are so poor in the crucial middle.
3 Posted 01/06/2020 at 17:53:16
"Oh, sick I am to see you, will you never let me be?
You may be good for something, but you are not good for me.
Oh, go where you are wanted, for you are not wanted here."
And that was all the farewell when I parted from my dear.
I will go where I am wanted, to a lady born and bred
Who will dress me free for nothing in a uniform of red
She will not be sick to see me if I only keep it clean
I will go where I am wanted for a soldier of the Queen.
I will go where I am wanted, for the sergeant does not mind,
He may be sick to see me but he treats me very kind.
He gives me beer and breakfast and a ribbon for my cap,
And I never knew a sweetheart spend her money on a chap.
I will go where I am wanted, where there's room for one or two,
And the men are none too many for the work there is to do.
Where the standing line wears thinner and the dropping dead lie thick,
And the enemies of England they shall see me and be sick.
A bit of a tenuous link, I know, but that's the lock-down for you!
4 Posted 01/06/2020 at 18:12:25
Fortunately we're not in that position now (we waste money on much more expensive crap these days). Presume he'll grow rich for another season of not playing football with us before seeing out his career somewhere like Cyprus.
5 Posted 01/06/2020 at 19:03:48
It's obvious he's been intent on running down his contract rather than signing permanently for another club for a couple of years now. If the money does dry up in football, then it can't come quick enough for some of the luckiest people in the world, imho!
6 Posted 01/06/2020 at 20:14:57
7 Posted 01/06/2020 at 20:52:39
I forgot about everyone. Having been out of my daily obsessional habits for two months, last night I started trying to think of our lineup for the Liverpool game. It took me ages to remember any of our midfielders except Schneiderlin and Davies.
I never did remember Delph, or Besic for that matter. And yet, I can still easily remember the likes of Tony Thomas and Mitch Ward. Did I feel more invested in that team? Am I just losing my marbles?
8 Posted 01/06/2020 at 20:57:37
9 Posted 01/06/2020 at 20:59:04
10 Posted 02/06/2020 at 00:42:00
It's not the player's fault, what has brought this messed mix of a squad. Some have been got rid of, there is hope.
11 Posted 02/06/2020 at 00:59:28
12 Posted 02/06/2020 at 01:33:43
"The first thing we do, let's kill all the Agents ".
Brian @ 11; Shouldn't that be the plan for All Derbies no matter if Besic is in the team or not.
Martinez extended his contract?? Who was the manager who got the sack for taking bungs for transfers (alegedlly) Graham? ... Hmmm.
13 Posted 02/06/2020 at 04:16:16
14 Posted 02/06/2020 at 10:05:44
15 Posted 02/06/2020 at 10:21:07
During his spells injured, suspended, or on loan, people's memories go mad and they convince themselves he's a good player... then he comes on the pitch and proves them wrong. And, of course, he's on a long contract with prohibitively high wages.
We finished a good 5th and that summer he was the only addition we made, barring the already-here Lukaku.
Sums us up, doesn't it?
16 Posted 02/06/2020 at 11:33:43
Quick across the pitch, quick to see a pass and into the tackle, and quick to take the ball forward. In other words everything in his locker to be a really good central midfield player, or maybe just good enough to give us that one great game every blue moon! Seeing as it was against City.
17 Posted 02/06/2020 at 15:07:11
But then again, I only have one fully working eye and that one sees everything in a blue tint.
Going back to my youth I loved Alan Whittle and Andy Rankin!
But at least with those guys you know they put a shift in for what today wouldn't get a decent performance from a National League reserve.
Yes, Lockdown has a lot to answer for. Everything looks different.
18 Posted 02/06/2020 at 15:56:25
If Roberto wasn't watching him play against Argentina in the 2014 World Cup, he'd never have signed him, because he never heard of him before that game.
Gifted several millions for a sprinter's pace and acceleration and nothing else.
19 Posted 02/06/2020 at 17:22:58
Never rated him from day one, but I had to shake my head for two years while folks here waxed rhapsodic over his work rate and "bite"... none of which ever translated into quality football.
20 Posted 02/06/2020 at 17:59:24
Most of us see the present squad as at least four players short of the quality mark necessary to trouble the Top Six and whilst we hope that Ancelotti still has a little magic left to sprinkle on the army of journeymen we have somehow acquired, few of us would bet on it.
21 Posted 02/06/2020 at 20:31:08
22 Posted 02/06/2020 at 22:31:27
23 Posted 02/06/2020 at 23:36:36
I liked Besic. He'd have been a great player if he was born and played a few decades earlier. The hard grity (dirty) midfielder that all sides had to close out games and stop the creative (good) players playing.
Sadly another Everton CDM purchase that got seriously injured before he could show us what else he could do.
We have worse players on our books, some that have actually gotten game time this season. I'll welcome him back, but not as a defender. He's a defensive midfielder, get him to man-'mark' Mane or Henderson 'out of the game'.
24 Posted 03/06/2020 at 09:29:32
Carlo really does have an enormous job on his hands and frankly I can't see him having success because of the piss poor way the club as a whole is being run.
25 Posted 03/06/2020 at 10:25:50
We seem to have an endless list of players deemed not good enough by previous clubs, but who have found quite a nice lucrative home at Everton, and given lengthy contracts to boot.
The Covid-19 crisis couldn't have come at a worse time, those players who will realistically not be part of the manager's plans for next season, will not only have seen their transfer values drop dramatically, but will be even more inclined to stay on their fat inflated salaries, and let their contracts run down.
Martinez, Koeman, Silva, Walsh, and probably a few others, have a lot to answer for re their piss-poor recruitment of players.
26 Posted 03/06/2020 at 10:44:53
I'd be happy getting rid of Sigurdsson and Schneiderlin, while keeping Besic as 4th / 5th choice midfielder. He'd put more of a shift in than Schneiderlin at £70k per week less.
27 Posted 03/06/2020 at 11:13:45
While they have tried to lessen the financial burden on the club by loaning out these players, it's quite obvious that the clubs they have been loaned too have no interest in making the loan permanent.
So maybe we need to bite the bullet and let these players go for little or no money and get them off the books, as I don't see what point there is in holding on to these players who will never play for the club again.
Despite all the nonsense being reported about us being interested in certain players, I believe swap deals or taking players on short-term loans will make up most of our transfer activity when the window opens.
Let's hope that we adopt a better approach to transfers than we have in the last 4/5 years. Make one or two top signings rather than throwing money at bang-average players that don't seem to make any overall improvement to the squad.
28 Posted 03/06/2020 at 11:32:53
Yes, we have a decent manager now but scrambling about with Lossl as back-up Number 2 when we badly need a dominant Number 1 is crazy. Hopefully he sees the picture and has it all planned. If not, it will be same old...
29 Posted 03/06/2020 at 13:41:52
Better off loaning the players out and hoping you can find someone to pay between 30-60% of their wages over the period.
Sigurdsson we should be able to sell in theory. He's only 30 and his technical skillset mean he'll be able to operate at close to his best for another 4 years or so. He'd have to drop his wages but someone in China or MLS or maybe a promotion team would stump up £10m+ for him surely?
30 Posted 03/06/2020 at 14:50:27
Yes, if you can get someone to pay part of these players' wages, then yes, but it seems to get harder and harder to get these players loan deals with other clubs. The players have contracts which mean go out on loan or stay at Everton – the money is still the same.
I don't know why you single out Sigurdsson for a move. I can think of many before him who need shipping out. I would suggest that any player who hasn't played more than 3 or 4 games this season needs unloading pretty quickly. Whoever gave Besic a 5½-year contract needs locking up.
31 Posted 03/06/2020 at 15:48:43
I only picked out Sigurdsson because, out of the players you mentioned, he would be most likely to have suitors.
32 Posted 03/06/2020 at 16:33:41
Every penny counts, whether it is a 'pauper' promising academy player on a few £1000 a week/month, or a big earner on £120,000 a week.
It has long been evident that, due to the club's own mis-management, we have encumbered ourselves with too much high-paid mediocrity that sensible financial husbandry at other clubs will not take off our hands.
Loan deals and sharing the salary? Fine.
Buying the player? Yer 'aving a larf.
That situation is hardly going to improve post-Covid-19, is it?
We are stuck with these players until their contracts expire and they walk away as free agents.
It is totally fair, in that light, that we can already start to judge Marcel Brands and his recruitment as we need a better model and practices.
And for me the one thing he has totally failed to deliver on to date which he achieved previously is to buy the unknown raw gems for pennies, not merely potential to develop in the academy, but ready-to-go and make an immediate impact for the first team.
He has been here two years now. It is time to deliver on that front because, given situations like Mo Besic, that model gives us a better chance to start seeing some improvement in performances and position.
ps: I am so relieved that only 1-2 in this thread just hint at Mo Besic being able to 'do a job for us'.
His last appearance in an Everton first-team shirt was an early season Euro League game 3 summers ago.
His last Premier League game: February 2017.
Two seasons playing for a Championship side.
Only just before the virus outbreak did he start getting game time at the promoted Blades this season.
I think it's a reasonable assumption to say he ain't ever gonna 'do any sort of job' for Everton.
33 Posted 03/06/2020 at 17:39:45
I think its too early to judge Brands.
He inherited a major shitfest and had to get the squad thinned down before he had the funds or the go ahead to bring in desired players.
That was also hampered by Silva and Blue Bill's involvement I am sure.
Having said all that I prefer the manager to have total control over his first team squad and who is brought in.
All top managers are much better at identifying players than DOF's IMO.
34 Posted 03/06/2020 at 18:22:39
I like him. I trust in him. I think he has status and obviously access to boardrooms of other clubs in high places.
I just highlighted one aspect of his role - the recruitment of the cheap, raw, unknown, ready-to-go diamonds who could improve the first team NOW!
He did that at all of his previous clubs.
He has not landed one such recruit at of that category.
It's my opinion that we need him to repeat that kind of success he achieved with his Dutch clubs.
35 Posted 03/06/2020 at 18:35:56
On Bowler, we will probably break even. It was the established players that the Walsh era failed at (although Pickford, Keane, Sigurdsson and Gueye can all be good in the right system).
I moaned a bit about Brands the other day but Sam H rightly pointed out (as per comments above) that he inherited too big a mess to do his job properly. The Brands job can only really start Summer 2021 and 2022 because that's when all our dross is out of contract. From there, he can build a squad.
In the meantime, it's an uncomfortable balance. By no means perfect but his signings so far have not been flops at least (albeit in some cases a bit expensive compared with what else was available – eg, Mina and Iwobi).
36 Posted 03/06/2020 at 19:15:43
He'll always get a warm welcome at Arsenal. They must have thought they would never hear from Everton again after having us over with Walcott. Imagine their surprise when Marcel came back and emptied another wheel-barrow full of cash on the carpet for an even worse player.
Mind you, that is nothing compared to the welcome he would receive at the Nou Camp. £75 Million for Gomes, Digne and Mina.
The embarrassment is almost a physical pain.
37 Posted 03/06/2020 at 23:02:12
38 Posted 04/06/2020 at 11:22:18
I wish him well wherever he moves to and he will certainly not let them down.
39 Posted 04/06/2020 at 11:46:01
I think Digne has proved good value and Kean remains to be seen. Gbamin I think would have proved an excellent buy but sadly we may never know.
In terms of younger players, has out academy not been under a transfer ban for the last year or so?
40 Posted 04/06/2020 at 12:30:51
We can all safely say that Sigurdsson, Schneiderlin, Keane, Williams, Martina, Bolasie, Klaassen, Ramirez, Walcott and Tosun have no significant resale value. We are having to loan them out season on season, as we can't give them away due to their salaries and nobody will pay any fee for them. We will only be able to properly assess Brands when he has cleared out that dross to create some space on the wage bill.
41 Posted 05/06/2020 at 10:52:50
Of course I will show patience with Iwobi... and Kean and any other youngster who pulls on an Everton shirt. I have no axe to grind with these boys, nor do I believe they will give less than 100%.
I have seen enough of these boys to form an opinion on them. I don't see the clear and obvious signs which I saw in Calvert-Lewin and Holgate. I don't even think either of them will play as many Premier League games as the much-maligned Davies. I just think they (and other) Brands signings are not of the calibre we need to bring the club forward – although I haven't completely given up on big Yerry.
Brands is simply serving up more of what Walsh, Koeman and Allardyce gave us. Other people's rejects.
I don't think any of these boys have come with the intention of failing. They will get 100% backing and support from me throughout the games I attend. It won't be their fault if they are not good or consistent enough – and if they can prove me wrong, even better.
Ancelotti has proven he can be, at the very least, a match for the best, but he won't do it with this set of players.
Much depends on a dramatic improvement from Brands. The words "could do better" don't even come close...
42 Posted 06/06/2020 at 17:34:53
The reason I find this staggering is that Mo was a gamble from an unknown club who had just put Messi in his pocket and was the stereotypical type that Moyes and Martinez had to unearth given the financial restrictions they operated under.
Under Marcel, we are in a different paradigm and have spent the guts of £200 million putting us at the top for outlay in the Premier League during Brands's time. We have been a big-time operator with a small-time output. Our sum reward is that one player has excelled who incidentally was the previous manager's acquisition.
In addition, we sold our best player for a paltry fee and to date we haven't seen a substantial increase in the quality of the squad or the performance level of the team for which Marcel should be judged. To give an example the midfield area from left to right is possibly the worst in years.
Our immediate aims should really be to compete for a top-six position given the finances yet I can only find three players in Holgate, Calvert-Lewin and Richarlison who are worthy of that company. This in spite of over ten players signed with the aim of us getting there. I am sick hearing about the problems he clearly inherited but I am judging him solely on his performance and his outlays.
I certainly understand with empathy that Marcel has been particularly unlucky with Gomes and Gbamin and like most believe that they, along with Kean, Digne and Mina, could turn out great additions for us. However, two years in and we still speak in terms of Marcel with hope and belief rather than substance.
To contrast, Solksjaer has just spent less than Brands on three players who have all made an immediate difference to their squad in Maguire, Bassaka and Fernandes.
Why do we constantly make excuses for a man who thinks that Delph and Iwobi are good enough for this club? They are both shocking signings for different reasons and should never have been targets for a club with the financial resources at our disposal and the objectives we have.
43 Posted 10/06/2020 at 03:55:48
Though I doubt those three Utd signings would have booked a gig with us, they do serve to show how we are not getting value for the money we are actually spending. Moise Kean has been nothing short of an utter waste.
Mo Besic, on the other hand, cost the club a mere £5 million and was, as you said, reminiscent of the Moyes-era gamble, the type that had landed Arteta, Pienaar, Lescott etc.
He never worked out for us but he is hardly evidence of some pre-Brands era largesse.
44 Posted 10/06/2020 at 14:42:41
In the first transfer window, Brands impressed us all with his sophisticated approach to the squad. He seemed to identify relationships such as Keane and Zouma, he addressed key deficiencies; with no creativity in midfield, he sought Gomes and Digne for the problem left-back area, with Richarlison sought to deliver goals. It was like he was assembling the jigsaw piece by piece and this looked a great start.
However, this summer, it's not just bad judgement which has let him down but poor planning. Take the midfield area: before he arrived, there were two dynamic players in Gueye and McCarthy. We now don't have a single player with dynamism and even Gbamin isn't that type of player even though quite athletic. This is a serious oversight from a guy who is supposed to be a master at assembling a squad and has left a pedestrian lopsided midfield.
Again his logic must be questioned in bringing players like Gomes and Delph into the squad. Both of whom have injury concerns and certainly take a chance on Gomes but the other midfielder you are bringing in must then be robust.
Furthermore, as others have touched upon, only Gbamin is an unknown where Marcel has displayed a level of foresight and judgement. The other players brought in were seasoned internationals and his entire outlay portrays someone with a great social network but devoid of a real critical eye where very few uncut diamonds seem to be in the pipeline.
For me, it's a case of all fur coat and no knickers with Marcel to this point.
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