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1 Posted 01/09/2019 at 12:41:59
If we can say after every 90-plus minutes we have done everything possible to get the win, then the fans will be fine with that until we get the team we really want. It's the cheap goals and defeats, like at Villa that will, that will accelerate Silva's fate. Let's hope he is learning fast and we turn out to be so lucky to have him. Coyb
2 Posted 01/09/2019 at 13:05:02
3 Posted 01/09/2019 at 13:10:33
4 Posted 01/09/2019 at 13:11:55
Hats off to Marco's selection, here's hoping that we are rejoicing from a loftier position in the table, come 4 o'clock.
5 Posted 01/09/2019 at 13:15:17
6 Posted 01/09/2019 at 13:22:52
7 Posted 01/09/2019 at 13:25:28
8 Posted 01/09/2019 at 13:29:31
9 Posted 01/09/2019 at 13:38:44
I think he has shown thus far that we have made a good investment and he gives us something that has been sorely lacking for a long while. I really like the guy.
10 Posted 01/09/2019 at 13:39:13
As suspected, Bernard is the one whose starting place is most at risk with the signings of Kean and Iwobi. Delph I feel is going to prove a very important signing for us.
Let's hope for a marked improvement to last season's horror show at Goodison Park against the Wolves.
11 Posted 01/09/2019 at 13:43:13
12 Posted 01/09/2019 at 13:59:47
13 Posted 01/09/2019 at 14:22:30
14 Posted 01/09/2019 at 14:50:35
15 Posted 01/09/2019 at 14:51:22
16 Posted 01/09/2019 at 15:02:10
Sigurdsson has been excellent. Further goals for Everton are likely if he can keep delivering from the flank as he has. Iwobi again showing that maybe, just maybe, we did well to land him instead of Zaha that so many lobbied for. Totally logical to play Iwobi left and Richarlison right when the Brazilian showed his best form in the closing matches of last season in that position.
Kean a bit peripheral. We are not playing to his strengths asking him to be the target man, playing with his back to goal. Like Richarlison who was asked to play there, he is better collecting and running from deep front on at defenders.
The concerns are down both flanks. Digne is having a real struggle against Traore and got roasted for their goal. Coleman has been zipped past a couple of times also. Delph showing good control and awareness at the heart of midfield, albeit with one or two loose plays also.
Gomes continues to be Gomes. Very little impact on the game other than to lose the ball and cough up cheap free kicks. He really needs to step up.
There will be more goals in the second half. Let's hope we get the bulk of them.
17 Posted 01/09/2019 at 15:55:16
18 Posted 01/09/2019 at 15:56:24
19 Posted 01/09/2019 at 15:59:29
20 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:00:04
Good result but loads to improve on. We are crap playing slowly but look really good when we up the tempo. Be brave Marco. Unleash the hounds!
Massive 3 points. Thrilled with the result!
21 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:00:50
22 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:02:47
Don't understand why we try to slow the game down when we're ahead. We never look as good when players are waiting for passes instead of moving the ball quickly.
The only question mark for me was who starts as centre forward next game. Kean looked a bit lost being asked to play right up top. I think he'd rather be pulling into the flanks. Maybe it is DCL after all until Kean adapts.
23 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:04:47
24 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:05:05
25 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:05:10
Just made up.Why say anything else!!!!
26 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:06:10
Thoroughly good match played at the speed it should be. Our midfield looked much better with Delph & Gomes together. Feel sorry for Seamus but both goals were his fault.
27 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:06:25
Totally with you but Yerry superb as well.
28 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:07:33
I thought Kean was very good today. Surely I can't be the only one?
Every time that kid is on the ball it gets me on my feet. A real danger up top - he has to continue to lead the line for me.
Oodles of talent in that boy. Keep running him out there!!
29 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:08:19
I keep hearing Wolves are a good team. We've just beaten them. Deservedly.
30 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:08:28
31 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:10:03
32 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:10:30
Lady slayers who happen to be damn good footballers when it all clicks.
Dangerous on the pitch and in the nightclubs and pubs!
33 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:10:38
34 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:12:05
And then it happened – they equalised. And I thought "That's that".
But I was wrong. This wouldn't have happened last season. So maybe – just maybe – we're getting there!
35 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:13:32
I thought Mina was immense.
36 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:14:44
Currently up to 5th so things definitely looking up.
Traore better contained in the second half and Digne redeemed himself by digging out a great cross tight to the goal line for Richarlison's winner. Excellent movement and perfectly angled header by Richy for his second. For those claiming he doesn't play as well wide right today made nonsense of that. And didn't he put his usual shift in, running back and getting in any number of covering tackles, as well as skinning Bolly to get him sent off.
Iwobi impressed 1st half but faded second. Bernard did well when he came on. Kean's hold up play and attempts at turning away from his defender not the best today. How he was being asked today doesn't best suit his game. He should be receiving the ball from deeper with space to run at defenders.
Sigurdsson back to his best today and, like Richarlison, did a lot of grunge work to help out his defence. Delph showed he is going to be a big influence on the team this season. Gomes improved in the 2nd half after being rather anaemic in the 1st.
Another big positive for me is that we increasingly have more quality coming on from the bench.
Still not firing on all cylinders over a full 90 minutes in the league yet, but plenty to be encouraged by.
37 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:17:04
38 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:17:30
39 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:18:09
40 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:20:19
41 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:21:09
Paul (#35), I love the pure energy, desire and skill from the Wolves side, only spoilt by those horrible cynical fouls that should have been far more harshly punished. But every time they came forward, I felt they would score. Maybe the fact that they didn't means they are not as good as they looked at times.
For me, team selection was a perfect response to the abject conservatism shown by Marco Silva at Villa Park, and it paid dividends, even if it was a big slice of luck that got us that vital first goal. But we had to go ahead three times to win this, and you do that by scoring goals — not by holding the fucking ball up!
42 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:21:17
43 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:22:54
The last thing in the world anyone would describe you as, Michael, is an unemotional neutral!
44 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:24:24
45 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:26:49
46 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:27:08
47 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:27:08
48 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:31:29
49 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:31:54
50 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:34:02
51 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:36:27
52 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:37:26
53 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:38:12
His work on the right today was hit and miss. He naturally wants to cut in on his right. If you can't, or don't want to acknowledge that then that's your prerogative...
There was no purple patch for him on the right last season. He belongs on the left or through the centre.
54 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:39:22
Seamus was at fault for the first goal as he stuck his foot out & stopped the ball right in front of their striker gifting him the goal, just clear the ball.
The second goal Seamus was playing all 3 of their strikers onside whilst Keane & Mina had moved up to put them offside. Watch the highlights if you disagree.
55 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:41:21
Did not go down well with a few posters at the time, but I still say, if we can keep this guy fit, he will be an absolute bargain for what we paid for him.
56 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:42:31
57 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:46:22
58 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:50:34
59 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:53:45
60 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:00:00
As I saw it, we were fully in control of the game most of the time, gifting them their two goals.
I thought we showed really good game management towards the end.
61 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:05:34
Not sure why, has happened for well over 25 years where we play catch up early doors.
This season I will put it down to the new signings not getting much pre season playing together.
Give it a few weeks and hopefully, we will work out our best starting 11.
The negatives from some were about Delph signing, about not landing Zouma.
I think both Delph and Mina are showing us something different.
Kean will come good, I would certainly keep with that starting 11, using Bernard as an impact sub.
Would also like to see Tosun used from the bench, instead of Walcott.
62 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:09:38
63 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:10:16
Obviously, I don't know what was said at half time but Delph dropped into that role that Davies and Schneiderlin have been told how to play (and suffer?), don't go more than 10 yards over the halfway line and we looked a lot less effective because of it. The midfield have to go forward and defend as a unit and no more of this just sitting in front of the back four.
I couldn't believe that when it came to substitutions the two most effective players (Iwobe & Kean) were the players taken off and while we looked more effective down the left with Bernard it needed Richarlison to be moved into the middle. I don't know what Silva's plans are for Richarlison but he has to get him more involved in the middle rather than out wide on the right and he has to have a word in his shell like about falling over for no more apparent reason than a defender is near him.
Still, three points from a side who look like they could and should be a lot better.
64 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:10:35
Traore absolutely skinned Digne for the first cross in. Yes, Coleman should have done better but the lad was there to score. But it would have been nothing without tremendous play by Traore that bested 'the best left-back in the Premier League'.
For the second goal, a brilliant cross in and a very brave header. Yea, Coleman may have been playing on the three attackers but he doesn't have eyes in the back of his head... or is that what people call 'ball-watching'? Either way, the goal could not really have been prevented, unless our 'best left-back in the Premier League' had been a yard or two closer to the ball.
But it's all about opinions. Kudos for yours but thems mine.
65 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:12:59
Iwobi seems to be doing well and settled into the system. Kean has done well, considering how much is expected of a lone frontman. However, we are still not playing as a unit for the front four. And as long as we don't get that right, we won't be able to maximize the strengths of each of our attacking players. We are still pretty much attacking as individuals.
Digne did struggle against Traore. It's actually surprising that Wolves didn't try to exploit that more regularly. For a player of Traore's speed and strength, most players will struggle against him going full-pelt at them. This is where defenders need more guile against such players.
There is only so much we can expect Digne to do against such players, given what Digne's qualities are. We can only hope that the defenders learn to exercise more guile in showing players their weak side.
66 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:15:40
I am sure we will agree to differ but the main thing is that we played fast free-flowing football, scored 3 goals & won.
67 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:16:17
And I would say Richarlison is vastly improved on his "falling over" issue – he rode some tough tackles today and kept going. Great effort, end to end.
68 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:18:29
I suggested Coleman should be dropped. I thought he had his best game for us today for a long time.
Finally, Pickford's handling on crosses seems to have improved.
Very encouraging all round. Let's enjoy it.
69 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:21:44
70 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:22:17
Pickford 8- couple of good saves. Excellent distribution.
Coleman 8 - slightly unfortunate mistake for their equaliser. Thought he was excellent in the second half.
Keane 7 - mostly solid without ever looking impenetrable.
Mina 7 -similar to Keane. One or two times lingering on the ball which terrified me and will get caught out one day.
Digne 7 - much better second half and great assist but arguably at fault for both goals.
Gomes 6 - Got better as game went on and did make a few good tackles and passes. Not at his best yet.
Delph 9- excellent league debut. Read the game well making tackles, interceptions and showing for the ball intelligently. A leader in the middle. I thought hed be a very good signing, he may turn out to be even better.
Iwobi 8- very useful for 55/60 minutes and was just tailing off a bit before his injury. Carries and passes well. Plus another goal. Think hell prove a big player for us.
Sigurdsson 8- worked his absolute socks off. Got a great assist and linked play well. Much more involved in the game than previous weeks.
Richarlison 9- Got better as game went on and never stopped running. 2 big goals and hopefully well see more where that came from.
Kean 6- a tad ungenerous perhaps but did not see a great deal from him today. His movement looks decent though his touch was ropey at times. He will have better days I hope and seems to get in good positions.
71 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:26:15
72 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:27:23
I really like Iwobi though Bernard looked decent too when he came on.
We need to tighten up at the back but this team is now showing promise and starting to gel. Mina is proving his critics wrong and as for those who wrote Delph off before he had even kicked a ball – a great lesson to always give players a chance first – what a bargain he is. He ran the midfield for most of the game and I think was responsible for Gomes starting to play better.
Well done, boys – a very entertaining afternoon!!
74 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:40:28
And dare I ask, what was your opinion before "vastly improved". In any case, I don't think we are too far apart on our opinions on what we saw today and long may we worry about getting forward, players in the box in more numbers then just DC-L, and less about someone doing nothing more than sitting in front of the backline.
75 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:41:52
I also think you're right about Delph's effect on Gomes. He won't allow his partner to wallow and drift.
76 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:44:16
Very good game, but a lot of work to do defensively, especially in the centre of our defence, but what a winning goal, for a team which is beginning to show a bit of bottle.
Made up with Iwobi, but I was equally happy with Bernard, because it's a squad game now, and I thought the little Brazilian got us back on the ball, after what I thought were our worst 10 minutes of the second half, leading up to Wolves's second equaliser.
77 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:46:21
After all the criticism Richarlison and Sigurdsson have really stepped up
Superb winning goal – no one else in our squad would have scored that goal.
78 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:49:09
The new man looked like a Niasse impersonator for much of the game and will do well to claim a regular spot in the U23s.
Otherwise a good performance all round and as enjoyable as any seen in 2019.
79 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:53:15
A couple of points; Iwobi, Kean, Delph [and even Richarlison] didn't have a full-on pre-season and are still 'getting up to speed'.
As my pal pointed out: We mustn't forget that Kean is younger than most of the Everton players who have been sent out to 'get more experience'.
Was it just me, or did Pickford catch more crosses today than in his entire previous existence?!!
80 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:53:51
You've got to be kidding!
81 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:54:44
82 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:55:00
"Richarlison doesn't play as well on the right."
Apart from today when he was one of many candidates to be MoTM, and the end of last season, when he had his best spell playing there in harness with the Siggy-Coleman triangle.
"Both [Richarlison's] goals were scored in the middle."
Yesss...as was Iwobi's.
Richarlison plays EXACTLY the same, left or right. As did Iwobi on the left today and against Lincoln midweek. Both cut inside from the flanks into central positions where (surprise, surprise!) you increase your chances of scoring. They are NOT out and out wingers, instructed to hug the touchline.
Can you really not see or understand that is part of Silva's strategy, pretty much since he arrived at Everton. What Richarlison does not play well, in the way Silva asked him to play mid-season last year, is the target man central forward. Asking Kean to play that role today also did neither him (nor the team) many favours.
"His work on the right today was hit and miss."
Yeah...like the two goals he hit on target, plus being denied a hat-trick by a full-length save by Patricia, and best not to mention the other times he linked up well with Coleman, Siggy, Gomes and Delph, or his graft in chasing back and helping defensively.
Other than that, you were spot on with everything Ciaran.
83 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:58:52
I don't think he is really a target man, and would be better trying to get in behind. We hardly ever try a through ball to play the striker in, but rather knock it sideways and then cross it.
84 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:59:05
85 Posted 01/09/2019 at 18:02:43
His cross was met by either Richarlison or Mina who although on target was thwarted back out to Bernard, who was ideally placed albeit from a narrow angle to shoot at goal with only the keeper to beat, but chose to sling another ball into the crowded area, which came to nothing.
86 Posted 01/09/2019 at 18:03:02
We may have looked shaky at the back, but how many clear chances did they actually have?
Arguably the best side we've played so far and giving the pacy new signings an hour to create space and chances was better than giving them 30 mins to chase the game, as some have thought.
A good win... and yes, we can do better.
87 Posted 01/09/2019 at 18:04:28
I don't agree in the slightest.
However, it would be churlish to continue arguing about it today.
88 Posted 01/09/2019 at 18:04:39
89 Posted 01/09/2019 at 18:15:00
90 Posted 01/09/2019 at 18:19:22
91 Posted 01/09/2019 at 18:20:00
92 Posted 01/09/2019 at 18:20:00
Gomes got better, his little switch passing to Digne helped get Bernard into the game, and it was also enjoyable to watch. Digne had a few problems defensively, but what a cross for the winner, and wasn't it great to see Richarlison get across the defender, in a style that I personally thought was reminiscent of Andy Gray!
93 Posted 01/09/2019 at 18:26:16
94 Posted 01/09/2019 at 18:29:16
95 Posted 01/09/2019 at 18:31:53
Wonderful cross and header for the winner. Digne had a torrid time and I thought he lost his man for their second. He made up for it with that cross, though.
The difference this season is that however they're actually playing, we have more players that can make things happen now. That means we're more able to conjure a goal out of nowhere when we need one.
96 Posted 01/09/2019 at 18:38:54
My MotM was between Mina and Delph who were superb. Sigurdsson, Gomes and Digne were excellent second half but I'm really worried about Coleman. He's getting slower and his final pass was generally poor today.
Hands off Kean. He's 19, playing in a foreign country in a league which is three times faster than what he's used to. Give him time and he'll be more than fine.
97 Posted 01/09/2019 at 18:41:23
Had Calvert-Lewin been in the centre-forward shirt for the whole 95 mins and turned in Kean's performance, would you be praising him on improvement or giving him the usual 5/10 for trying?
Now be honest.
98 Posted 01/09/2019 at 18:46:59
You bring up a good point about being vocal. We've been crying out for Leadership all over the field for years and could really do with more of it within the team.
99 Posted 01/09/2019 at 18:48:41
100 Posted 01/09/2019 at 18:49:49
I commented last week that it was too early for negative criticism, and it needed to be seen how Silva would react and give the supporters a sign of how the new signings are going to fit in with his tactics.
Today we've seen how the team will be set up this season and it showed promise for the future...
I still believe Richarlison is more effective as a central striker, but Kean looks like he is going to improve, and it will be a great asset for Silva to choose. It was a good team performance today but 1 game does not make a season and hopefully we will continue to improve.
101 Posted 01/09/2019 at 18:51:21
You're on a wind-up, surely?
102 Posted 01/09/2019 at 18:51:39
And do you think that Kean was no improvement on what has been seen previously or do you think it may have been some sort of reason that others stepped up to hide the "fact".
103 Posted 01/09/2019 at 18:56:06
It's interesting to start reading all the negatives on early posts and then wonder why we can't wait till the team cross the white line before putting anyone down.
Positive team picked but again that brings in the question of balance between scoring and conceding.
I wonder what those putting down the Delph signing are thinking right now? People never learn, do they...
104 Posted 01/09/2019 at 18:56:45
Every goal that is conceded [in my opinion] can be traced to someone's mistake, the Wolve's fans will be holding their inquests at this moment, and playing their own blame game. I for one will relish the moment, an excellent game of football and a much-needed 3 points.
105 Posted 01/09/2019 at 19:01:50
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107 Posted 01/09/2019 at 19:05:26
It's his first start of the season and for Everton. Who's the one with rose-tinted spectacles on? You, and the DCL apologists, that's who.
DCL can be a great weapon from off the bench, but this guy, Kean, is a superstar in the making.
Let's see if he fails to score (or excite) in his next 14 starts for Everton, at maximum fitness.
108 Posted 01/09/2019 at 19:07:33
Hugely disappointed to see a formation which I thought would struggle against a midfield who out number us.
I thought we never got any real control in the game, but several individuals stood out today to knit the team together. Delph was excellent, did a bit of everything with composure and was head and shoulders the best player on the park.
Richarlison was at his scoring best, appearing to be dead one minute and a veritable Lazarus the next. His header was top top drawer, best header of the ball since Cahill? His energy combined with Coleman's stamina gave us the outlet when Digne understandably suffered until his assist late in the game.
Kean was decent, his movement, anticipation and nark all there, his first touch will come at this level.
Lastly, Pickford, one excellent save, his handling was impeccable today.
Sigurdsson found space on the right and crossed the ball from open play frequently. Iwobi carries the ball, we need that.
The big problem was the centre backs today, I can't find any good remarks about them today. The concerns pre-season are valid and need to be addressed.
Well done, Marco, touch and go but a wild game.
109 Posted 01/09/2019 at 19:12:59
110 Posted 01/09/2019 at 19:15:12
I'm a great believer in the old maxim "if you are good enough, you are old enough"... but only if the youngster is given freedom express himself. Give him responsibility and you will never get the best out of him.
To ask a young man to play up top on his own was a little cowardly from Silva IMO. The more he does it, the less effective we look.
I also think this was a lesson to those who have been screaming to get him in ahead of Calvert-Lewin. Silva does his forwards no favours by isolating them.
We have now seen DCL not start in two consecutive games and despite the hysteria, we have looked no more potent up front. A worldie free kick and a penalty gave us our first two goals against Lincoln. And today, a howler from the kopite set us on our way. That free-flowing football that created loads of chances for our strikers must have happened when I wasn't looking.
We were staring at penalties on Wednesday until DCL was introduced and we wrested back control and possession. We were all thinking we were heading for another draw today until he was again introduced and we were able to sustain more possession and a win. Not sayin it was all down to him, but he clearly gives us a presence and we do retain the ball better when he is one the pitch.
Those wanting to write him off and confine him into the history books need to think again. He's nailed on to start next game.
I was delighted with improved performances from Sigurdsson, Gomes, Richarlison and Keane. I was delighted with the win and I'm delighted that Richarlison's heading ability seems to get better and better.
Wolves were playing their tenth game of the season. It was a good time to play them after their European exploits, but they are no quitters and Maximum effort was required.
Job done, job well done.
111 Posted 01/09/2019 at 19:18:28
If we can keep a relatively injury-free squad, we will be right up there with the fight for 5th or 6th – or whisper it quietly 3rd or 4th... perhaps that's being a bit ambitious but we can hope.
The problem I have with 5th or 6th is playing in that Europa League because it undoubtedly affects the Premier League performance the same season.
Richarlison was on song today which makes a world of difference, Delph is looking like a key player and Iwobi is likewise, Pickford's name is hardly mentioned which is good.
With regard to Digne trying to mark Traore, he can make any fullback look silly as he has speed to burn.
Coleman's regular position is more under threat, I'd say, he's not as sharp as he was. Not I might add that anyone has suggested Digne's position is under threat, far from it.
112 Posted 01/09/2019 at 19:23:32
113 Posted 01/09/2019 at 19:23:55
Still, as you say, you've had your one question.
114 Posted 01/09/2019 at 19:27:11
A few more games together and Delph, Gomes and Sig show signs of forming a good understanding and balance.
Defensively we are still lacking and though we were in control of the game we could have finished up with heartache.
Great to see us continue showing a bit more bottle and togetherness
115 Posted 01/09/2019 at 19:29:21
116 Posted 01/09/2019 at 19:30:04
To seek to pass off the likes of Dominic and the kid we saw today as candidates for the role of Everton striker is a crime. Does he think we are rustic hay munchers who buy into all the unadulterated crap we are fed by the hierarchy? We have eyes, and what we saw playing No 9 today was NO advance on anybody else being paid a fortune not to score goals on a regular basis.
As all else has failed, why not give up the search and utilise Richarlison or Iwobi down the middle. At least we know they can both trap a ball and recognise in which direction to aim their shots!
117 Posted 01/09/2019 at 19:34:15
Fair play to Silva for playing Kean, Iwobi and Delph. While I welcome Kean starting, tbh, I thought that Silva would give DCL a few more games and bring Kean on around the 60-min mark. Iwobi's directness means he starts for me. I think Bernard has talent, but he does flatter to deceive at times.
118 Posted 01/09/2019 at 19:44:24
Moise Kean and Everton may be better served by bringing him on mainly as a substitute this season. I remember West Brom using Lukaku mainly as a substitute the season they had him on loan, and I think he still banged in about 15 goals. Kean is young, he needs time to adapt to the Premier League. In the meantime, DCL can do a fine job of holding up the ball, bringing in Richarlison, Iwobi, Bernard, Sigurdsson into play, and tire out the defenders for Kean to exploit when he comes on with about 30 minutes to play.
119 Posted 01/09/2019 at 19:45:43
If you think Mr Brands should be hung out to dry for something that happened before he was employed by Everton, then I would suggest that you don't open any windows above the third floor.
120 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:00:21
Today was an attacking and pleasing performance.
121 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:09:41
122 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:09:54
In the last 20 minutes he was a really solid in seeing the game out!
123 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:10:31
The 2 players substituted were spent and knackered. It's irrelevant that they played well or poorly. Once you are there, you have to make way.
Many games are won in the last 10 when fitness/fatigue is key. Made up with the starting line up and the result. Richarlison is a proper goal scorer and match-winner.
124 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:11:13
We booked a nice outdoor venue and the gods played their part :
- Glorious weather in Nairobi (it rained cats and dogs yesterday);
- A good turnout, 25 of us got together. Its tough getting together on a Sunday which is Church day for many of our club members.
- Our chosen venue was well organised
- Ofcourse 3 points in a rip roaring games.
Fabian Delph is our hero here. He made some timely interceptions and was always looking to pass forwards. I notice quite a few Man City fans saying very good things about him. Lets hope he stays fit!
A couple of Arsenal fans came to our section to say well done after the game and were congratulating us on signing Iwobi. They thought he will flourish.
Completely chuffed with the win.
We did look ropey at the back, the two full backs made mistakes, but we looked very good going forward.
Big things are expected of Kean, but its easy to forget how inexperienced at senior level he is.
I noticed Souness mouthing off on why Kean would ever chose to come to Everton. In my eyes, it must mean the boy is clearly a talent and a certain Marcel Brands has caused some envy.
125 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:12:17
Why is everyone talking about you and your negativity? We won in a league where no game is ever easy.
Kean? He's doing just fine.
126 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:14:45
127 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:17:10
I believe that Brands has a target and a duty not to pay over a set limit for any given player and all that has happened is that the club has refused to pay currently inflated prices for players who are no better than we have.
Richarlison and Iwobe would be failures in the central role as they are both wide players in the 4-3-3 system that Silva prefers. Our system isn't pure 4-3-3 and we end up with our central strikers becoming isolated and goals being very hard to come by for them.
Calvert-Lewin is a very talented player but he isn't a lone striker. Why blame him for being a square peg in a round hole? Kean is also not a lone striker and he has the same problem. Blame the system – not the players.
In terms of not buying overpriced players, we should all support the club for this.
128 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:18:54
Finally, a logical opinion about Calvert-Lewin and Kean. Everyone seems to think we all want DCL banned from the grounds or something. DCL offers something that Kean doesn't - hold-up play and aerial play. If we want to protect a lead it's the perfect time to bring on DCL. In fact, I told my friend at the pub today at the 70th minute that it was a good chance to bring on DCL to take back control of the game.
However Kean clearly tries to score every touch which DCL rarely does. Today was not Kean's best but he was surrounded by 1-2 defenders all game. Still, Kean created a goal-scoring chance at least once per game before today.
I don't understand people calling to play Richarlison or someone else at striker - it would be the same result. We don't provide good enough service to our lone strikers so other players wouldn't offer us much more at the moment.
129 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:21:56
130 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:22:58
Nurse! "Tablets please"!
131 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:23:13
132 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:27:17
Im happy with that.
133 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:34:49
134 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:36:14
As for attackers, seems we have quite a few with talent now and think each will contribute throughout the season.
I think we may have a boss who will also develop with them and we start seeing right players for right opposition.
Have to say... I think Kean and Calvert-Lewin need to get more balls to run onto and we need to mix wing based attacks with some down the middle.
I also think next game we may sit back and counter and then we could see some thrills from new boys and "old boys" like Calvert-Lewin.
I do love Bernard. Very exciting.
Happy day for me.
135 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:36:31
I think someone like Haller would have been ideally suited to the role and could have added goals and assists into the deal but it's a big ask for a 19-year-old and a 22-year-old – neither of whom are fully developed yet as players.
We are still a few players short of a top 4/5 team/squad. A developed, rounded striker, a fast centre-back, and an athletic ball-winning midfielder. Hopefully Kean and Gbamin might fulfill the first and last role eventually but they are not there yet.
136 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:41:24
We played with a front three, not one.
137 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:45:10
Everton will feel they could avoid both the goals they conceded, especially the first. There is a lot to be said for just putting your foot through the ball every now and then.
I never felt like we would lose the game. I thought we were in control for the majority of the game and dictated the pace well.
For the few getting stuck into Kean, remember back when you were 19. Take yourself to a new country with a different climate, language, and style of work. How would you be getting on? I'd say he's doing okay.
138 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:51:43
I can never understand negativity. In my opinion, if you are an Evertonian there are no negatives.
139 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:52:35
Insinuating that he must have an attitude problem otherwise Juventus wouldn't have sold him!! Totally fabricated!
140 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:58:36
Calvert-Lewin is the best striker we have for holding up the ball. Asking Kean to do that is ambitious – it's clearly not his game. I'd argue Kean looks better at making his own chances. My hunch is that Calvert-Lewin isn't going to be a top goalscorer, but Kean? Who knows?
For me, comparing them as a like for like is simple and unhelpful. It's all about Silva getting the best out of them for the team.
141 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:59:13
142 Posted 01/09/2019 at 21:00:50
For me, it's entertaining and a joy to watch quality players. Yes, we need discipline at times but, for the first time, we have a method of scoring goals rather than just keeping them out!!
Yes, I could moan about our defending or choice of players but I won't. Today we showed fight and passion to win the game against a well-drilled and skillful team. Not a bad start to the season.
143 Posted 01/09/2019 at 21:05:15
Richarlison put in a great shift on the right, and I still think he can do a job up front, when needed.
144 Posted 01/09/2019 at 21:16:15
Another very entertaining game which was overall very enjoyable.
As others have already said we would have lost this type of game last season and the one against Lincoln and picked up one point at most against Watford.
Delph seems to bring the best out in Siggy and although I thought Schneids would be a better fit than Gomes, I thought Gomes grew into the game the more it went on. It was certainly good to see Marco Silva select such an attacking line-up, hopefully the first of many.
Defensively we seem to be suffering a bit but our forward play is making up for it at the moment. Certainly we will need to improve our defence against the better teams (although Wolves are not far off the same level as Arsenal, Man Utd and Chelsea) but lots to be very optimistic about. The most pleasing aspect for me is that we look like a team with a purpose and there is a real togetherness out in the pitch.
Looking forward to Bournemouth.
145 Posted 01/09/2019 at 21:20:54
I think he'll still have a place in the side when we've got 2 goal threats in Kean and Richarlison but, when Calvert-Lewin plays, we have to play Iwobi on the left of the three positions for his directness and power. Bernard, Calvert-Lewin and Walcott offer little threat of goals.
146 Posted 01/09/2019 at 21:21:39
To be fair, you could have always said exactly the same about Baines.
147 Posted 01/09/2019 at 21:30:36
Support our players instead of putting them down. Age profile of the team has really dropped, we have some very exciting young players in the first team now.
Upwards and onwards.
148 Posted 01/09/2019 at 21:33:37
149 Posted 01/09/2019 at 21:41:29
150 Posted 01/09/2019 at 21:41:57
Kean has a chance to develop into a top striker he seems to have an eye for the goal, is hard to shake off the ball and can beat an opponent with power and pace, even though he hasn't scored yet. But it's not certain he will become a success either because there are no guarantees, it's just potential at the moment.
151 Posted 01/09/2019 at 21:47:57
Kean did just fine. The test will be when he actually gets a goal-scoring opportunity, whether he nails it or duffs it.
Iwobi doing great. Not flash but really effective. Direct, runs, looks to score and make key passes and does a lot of his work in the final third. Exactly what I want from my attacking players.
Delph surprised me with his tackling and, as long as he stays fit, we should be okay in the DFM department with Gbamin out for quite a bit.
Chuffed with the result and 3 points. These are vital as the newbies still settle in.
152 Posted 01/09/2019 at 21:48:04
153 Posted 01/09/2019 at 21:58:05
Cracking game and an excellent win. Putting Iwobi, Kean and Richarlison up against their back three was a clever tactic and put us on the front foot. Chapeau Marco.
Good performances all round with a few standouts.
Delph - cool, calm, assured, controlled. Gareth Barry MkII. He should be a key man for us this season.
Richarlison - hes done his heading practice since Palace and got his mojo back. Hurrah.
Seamus - Vintage Seamie, bombing forward, linking with Richarlison, some excellent crosses.
Iwobi - continues to impress. Like the cut of his jib.
Sigurdsson - back to himself and did more than enough to justify Marcos faith in him and shush the naysayers for tonight at least.
Gomes was pretty anonymous until someone flicked a switch with half an hour to go and suddenly he was everywhere, picking it up, knocking it about, holding possession.
My jurys still out on Mina, thought he got lost for Wolves second but he was unlucky not to score and make up for it. Two fine saves from Patricio late on.
Three points from a game we possibly could have lost or probably would have drawn in previous seasons. Onwards and Upwards.
154 Posted 01/09/2019 at 22:01:18
I don't say that. I say he is a striker. And what is “enough” when it comes to goals?
My feeling is that Calvert-Lewin has a lot to offer, and I suspect that – when the team settles down elsewhere and we work out what our best XI is – he will start games and score goals.
155 Posted 01/09/2019 at 22:13:33
Nobody knows whether DCL will score goals in the future. Who knows, as Andrew @154 says, we might be pleasantly surprised once we start really gelling and achieving some consistency.
156 Posted 01/09/2019 at 22:16:31
157 Posted 01/09/2019 at 22:22:48
Since his absence and Kean starting, we have scored 7 goals inside a week, you can claim the third goal when Lewin had come on.
The team is playing with a better tempo, with Kean and Iwobi on the pitch.
That starting 11 today for me is our strongest 11 and without injuries, we have to stick with them.
One final note I would add as a different subject is the form of Mina and also Pickford catching the ball, instead of punching.
158 Posted 01/09/2019 at 22:24:50
"We have now seen DCL not start in two consecutive games and despite the hysteria, we have looked no more potent up front."
Those stats you hate, Darren: 7 goals in two games... versus how many was it? Oh yes... just 1 goal in three games.
'Hysteria' — not that there ever really was any (more Hind Hyperbole), just a difference of opinion on the ineffectiveness of a young player — vindicated in spades.
159 Posted 01/09/2019 at 22:29:55
160 Posted 01/09/2019 at 23:15:46
And @116 "Brands should be hung out to dry for failing abysmally over three windows to come anywhere near replacing Lukaku."
But in his defence he also poses a legitimate question @ 97:
"Had Calvert-Lewin been in the centre forward shirt for the whole 95 mins and turned in Kean's performance, would you be praising him on improvement or giving him the usual 5/10 for trying?"
Moise Kean has oodles of potential and I'm confident he will come good. But I personally feel some are over-egging his performance today.
I don't think Silva did him any favours today playing him as the lone target man with his back to goal at the sharp end of the pitch against the likes of the giant Boly. Kean's game is better suited to picking up the ball deeper and running at a retreating defence.
The ball did not stick to him as well as DCL has demonstrated he can do. His attempts at drag backs to get away from his marker in the main saw the ball get away from him and the team lose the ball. He wasn't involved in any memorable link up play that put us on the front foot, or attempts on goal.
For me, Kean's performance today was very much a 5 out of 10, the grade Paul Trail awards him in his match report, correctly (in my eyes) making him the lowest graded performer today.
This view does not represent Kean-bashing or a pining for the return of DCL. Just an opinion I hold based on today's events.
I'm guessing that ultimately - as they have already displayed when all three played together at Lincoln - Silva is looking for a fluent and speedy front three of Iwobi, Kean and Richarlison, capable of interchanging position and all being effective at running at defences be it from wide or down the centre, shooting or heading on target, to really bamboozle the opposition.
To ensure its effectiveness it will require a solid and disciplined midfield, flying full/wing backs and high octane fitness and recovery to get back into position when the ball gets turned over.
I see plenty of evidence that we are on the right path to knitting all that together.
161 Posted 01/09/2019 at 23:20:33
162 Posted 01/09/2019 at 23:27:01
163 Posted 01/09/2019 at 23:37:29
Whilst all players appear fit except Gbamin, I would like to see one or two use the sick note ploy to keep out of the international games. You just know other teams will be doing it.
164 Posted 01/09/2019 at 23:41:47
Crystal Palace are fourth – how believable is that?
However, although Crystal Palace's position is a false one, in my view, so is ours.
It's early days and we are bedding in new players. I honestly believe that, this season, we can take up the position that Crystal Palace currently hold and make it our own.
Time will tell.
165 Posted 01/09/2019 at 23:46:30
I thought the defending, if it can be called that, for their second goal was absolutely shocking, what was he trying to do, just clear it, rather than tee it up for the in-rushing forward? As luck would have it Richarlison scored the winner before the final whistle.
Another of those International Breaks already, and it seems the season has barely started, but it's the same for all Premier League sides. The only good thing being that our South Americans and African contingency are obviously not involved.
166 Posted 01/09/2019 at 00:04:55
Obviously I wanted to win, but if you'd asked me the bare minimum I was hoping for, I'd have said “We need to score. At the very least, I need to hear Goodison erupt.” I thought back to our limp 1-0 home defeat to Leicester after New Year's and felt that would be an awfully depressing experience to take home with me... so when Richarlison scored just five minutes in (and me wearing my Richarlison shirt, no less), I was over the moon. The fact it was 2-1 before even 15 minutes had gone by made it feel like I'd already experienced more excitement than our first three league matches combined!
When Wolves leveled the match late, I was understandably aggravated, but thought “Well... if fate decrees my inaugural match be an entertaining 2-2 draw, I can live with that.” And yet... I had a feeling we were going to find a way to pull it off. And sure enough, the explosion when Richarlison scored the game winner will stay with me for a long, long time. Just an awesome moment.
To be honest, the stars really aligned for this entire experience. My Mom wanted to take me to London for my birthday – neither of us had been before – and obviously making the pilgrimage to Liverpool was #1 on my to-do list. However, we had to start making plans and arrangements at the start of summer, and since the schedule hadn't been announced, all I could do was cross my fingers and hope for the best. And sure enough, not only was Everton at home and facing a very appealing opponent in Wolves, but the match was moved to Sunday, which meant I wouldn't have to hop a train straight from the airport (which I was fully prepared to do, but I'd have been tired and stressed out). The outcome felt written in the stars.
I was a little worried about sitting in the Lower Bullens – section LB6 – since, in spite of the history, I'd heard it wasn't a particularly great way to watch a match, at least when you're near the back. But I loved it, restricted view and all (maybe I would have swapped with the little kid a few rows up who had his nose glued to his Nintendo Switch the entire time, LOL).
I'd write more, but I'm typing this on my iPhone and need to get to bed. I will say, you can tell how excited the fans are about Moise Kean, and how you could just feel a little jolt go through the crowd every time he touched the ball. The place was primed to blow the roof off if he scored – had that happened, it definitely would have been the extra cherry on top of a fantastic day.
167 Posted 01/09/2019 at 00:07:16
Nuno had obviously singled him out for man-to-man marking and he constantly kept three defensers occupied which gave Iwobi, Sigurdsson and Richarlison the space.
I know he had a couple of occasions when he could have held the ball up better but, to me, he is head and shoulders above Calvert-Lewin as a centre-forward.
Some great performances today and a very enjoyable game (as we won) but we need to tighten up our concentration at the back and get a bit nastier in the tackle.
168 Posted 02/09/2019 at 00:13:52
I'm so glad you enjoyed your talismanic experience and hope you can make it again in the near future.
169 Posted 02/09/2019 at 00:24:02
"The only good thing [about the international break] is that our South Americans and African contingency are obviously not involved."
'fraid they will be, matey. Indeed, Richarlison and Mina could face each other. Brazil play Colombia Friday night in Miami.
No excuses for non-attendance from Jamie Crowley!
Brazil then play Peru in LA on Wednesday, a replay of the recent Copa America final.
170 Posted 02/09/2019 at 00:27:38
Nowhere in my post did I say they were responsible for that first goal. I said I thought they had poor games, as individuals and as pair.
You've taken your own interpretation and ran away with it. That's okay. But they were pretty bad, as was Digne but that was to do with a pretty fast player going the other way and he still managed an assist.
Mina and Keane – no acceleration; they will get ruined by a decent centre-forward.
171 Posted 02/09/2019 at 00:34:53
I'll reiterate – I desperately want Kean to excel – but what I am seeing so far makes me wonder why others are so sure he's already a much better option than Calvert-Lewin.
172 Posted 02/09/2019 at 00:48:18
I can remember Mina missing one header in the first half and I can't remember Keane putting a foot wrong just don't understand how you can say they had poor games?
If anything I'm shocked at how well Yerry Mina is performing. I had him down as a donkey after last season and was devastated when we never got Zouma but, so far this season, he has played well and was unlucky not to score today.
173 Posted 02/09/2019 at 01:07:50
I didn't realise that there was a game arranged for Brazil and Columbia, fingers crossed no injuries for our guys.
I will try to watch it, if I can find it on an IPTV Channel, and look out for Jamie in the crowd (lol). Pity these international breaks are so disruptive when we seem to be hitting some sort of form and managing to get some points cemented on the board.
Same goes for all our other players who may be involved in matches, hope no injuries.
174 Posted 02/09/2019 at 01:08:27
Our other backs played well. Mina has goals in him as he's a regular scorer for Columbia.
175 Posted 02/09/2019 at 01:11:49
Both forwards peeled away from them repeatedly in the first half from long balls. Cutrone found himself in acres several times, where were either of the pair?
They sit 10 yards further back because they have no acceleration. That allows the forwards to drop off and receive the ball. (They are fast over longer distances, but that rarely matters though.)
Keane was nowhere on the 2nd goal from the throw and the flick on was misjudged by Mina. He does often get ‘under' a ball.
The problem is they both like to dominate, especially in the air. However, neither covers the other particularly well when the other loses out; add in the lack of acceleration to a scenario like that and it very easy to exploit.
Have one in the side by all means; paired with a pacy partner, they can then be aggressive and bully a centre-forward who often plays up from on their own.
I appreciate the alternatives are limited but I'd prefer Holgate next to either of them, despite his own flaws.
176 Posted 02/09/2019 at 01:25:40
The boogers better not be kicking lumps out of each other!
177 Posted 02/09/2019 at 01:41:29
Sorry, I just spotted your post when I scrolled back through the comments, don't know how I missed it the first time.
I am so, so glad that your holiday worked out and that you managed to get the home game in, although had the fixture list not been so kind, you may have been able to attend an away game.
As you will be aware, our travelling Blues always turn out in thousands, but there is nothing quite like the atmosphere at the Old Lady, especially when scoring and winning, which we did both today.
It will be a part of your fondest memory of Everton forever, made up for you Bill!
178 Posted 02/09/2019 at 01:43:01
I thought Kean had a very ordinary day. I reckon he'll be pretty disappointed that he couldn't really make an impact.
Derek's definitely right – if Calvert-Lewin was that anonymous for 70 minutes he'd be absolutely slated on here.
Where I don't agree with Derek is writing him off and sending him to the U23s. It's his first Premier League start and he's 19. Let's give him some time to settle – he has shown some exciting attributes in his cameos so far.
179 Posted 02/09/2019 at 02:05:37
180 Posted 02/09/2019 at 05:42:35
I read this on ToffeeTV comments: "Kean and Iwobi providing so much creativity for the team, there were times on the right wing where Richarlison wouldn't run with the ball whereas Moise Kean took on and beat the defender."
He always tries to get past his defender when away from the box and make things happen, Calvert-Lewin, on the other hand, keeps the ball and passes the ball casually around. We need a more direct approach against teams sitting back.
Against Wolves it was going to be difficult to get chances in the box, let's judge him when he does because he will certainly against Sheffield and Bournemouth. Calvert-Lewin's game is more suited against top 6 but not against teams sitting back unless Silva starts with Kean and Calvert-Lewin, just like Wolves did today with Jimenez and Patrick. I hope to see the Woah soon.
181 Posted 02/09/2019 at 07:02:41
Now you and I both know what I promised. Please don't distort it as something you can use to shout down my opinion on everything.
I promised I would not post about young players coming through taking more stick than big signings down the years. Not because I don't believe it, many life-long supporters (too many for it not to have credence) have whole-heartedly agreed. I made that promise (one I intend to keep) because you, as editor of this site, were getting more and more agitated by it.
My response to the unnecessary dig you made against Calvert- Lewin and those who have supported him at the end of your post @41 was legitimate. This is a day to celebrate and you were looking to provoke... what you embarrassingly call "vindication".
You say there has been no hysteria when calling for Calvert-Lewin to be dropped. I can only assume you inhabit a different Evertonia to me. I see it every day. in pubs, on phone-ins and at the match. I also see it on websites such as this. We have £350m worth of players and the guy who cost next to nothing is talked about more than any of them. Barely a day goes by without several people saying he isn't good enough and should never play.
Whether Calvert-Lewin is good enough or not has become almost secondary. Look no further than this thread. People like your good self making ridiculous assumptions that we have cured all our attacking problems by dropping him.
You are right in saying I loathe stats and your claims offer a perfect illustration as to why. Yes, the stats will demonstrate we scored seven in two games when he DCL was dropped. However, there are facts behind those stats.
Fact one: We scored only five in open play in those two games;
Fact two: Although Calvert-Lewin only played about a quarter of an hour of each game, we scored more goals when he was on the pitch than we did in all the time when he wasn't.
I'm not suggesting DCL was solely responsible for turning these draws into wins, but I AM suggesting that any reasonable person taking those two facts into consideration, will lend very little credence to your claim. Or your stats.
There are 6-7 players who have dramatically lifted their game in the past week. That will almost certainly be the reason for improved performances and results. Not the inclusion or omission of one man. The vindication you speak about may exist, but it will only exist in the heads of people who so desperately want to make it so.
182 Posted 02/09/2019 at 07:14:09
183 Posted 02/09/2019 at 07:38:29
Given that cyclone, typhoon, the name of which I've forgotten, do you think the game in Miami will go ahead or be moved and would that affect the schedule of the second game in LA?
184 Posted 02/09/2019 at 07:58:53
185 Posted 02/09/2019 at 08:03:23
I would like to mention the industry of Richarlison, who was a constant threat but also did some solid tracking back, put in some good tackles and, on several occasions, he was the man heading clear in our box when Wolves turned the screw.
Obviously Delph caught the eye with his clever play and only tailed-off near the end as he tired. I thought he would be an important player for us and he is proving to be so.
Finally, on the subject of Moise Kean, it seemed that we were looking to play to him the same sort of balls as we normally play to Calvert-Lewin. He struggled, but on Wednesday when he received the ball from deeper positions and ran at defenders, he looked a better proposition. Obviously Wolves have better defenders than Lincoln, but he hasn't the height or heading prowess of Domenic. I think he will have better games and prove a good signing. Nonetheless, this shows that Calvert-Lewin has lots to offer.
I was surprised at the bold selection from Silva, but in fairness to him, he does seem to run a meritocracy and rewarded those that showed up well in midweek.
186 Posted 02/09/2019 at 08:06:02
187 Posted 02/09/2019 at 08:07:18
I think we've all been given a boost by our performance against Wolves it's a great feeling. All credit to Silva he has devised a way to change our approach to the game in the last two matches. We've come out of safety mode.
That's a sign of a good manager, now we look like scoring and are full of confidence, it's partly down to the inclusion of one man here and one man there, but more than that a change of philosophy, now we're much more exciting to watch, fortune has favoured the brave.
188 Posted 02/09/2019 at 08:25:23
Be patient — it's a virtue!
189 Posted 02/09/2019 at 08:47:21
190 Posted 02/09/2019 at 10:16:53
For example, if the same team had been played against Wolves with the exception of Calvert-Lewin instead of Kean, with Calvert-Lewinbeing deployed in the same way that Kean was deployed, it would be interesting to consider the possible effects. We obviously don't know what would have happened, because it's hypothetical, but at least we can ponder possibilities.
Given the way Iwobi and Richarlison were used, if Calvert-Lewin had been used in the same way that Kean was used, it would be difficult to imagine a significantly different effect. In this respect, it seems that Kean was being used as a target man, rather than maximising his ability to take a ball from deeper positions, and he seemed to struggle in that role, albeit having promising touches and a hand in a goal.
If Calvert-Lewin had been there instead of Kean, he might similarly have struggled, albeit with an arguable better capacity to hold up the ball, because we know he's good at that. He might have handled the role better than Kean. But we don't really know.
In other words, Calvert-Lewin and Kean have different qualities. The effect of those qualities depends on how each player is used. The effect of each player depends on the set-up.
I think that too often there's an over-focus on individual players like Calvert-Lewin and Kean. We need to consider the overall set up. A team is a collection of players where the whole is not simply the sum of the parts. It's a system with many and complex interactions that make it unpredictable in such a way that we simply cannot easily evaluate an individual player's contribution in isolation. It's that fact that renders statistics dangerous, particularly when the statistics are based on only a few games.
192 Posted 02/09/2019 at 10:47:29
Kean, with some of Calvert-Lewin's hold up play, physicality and work ethic – and Calvert-Lewin, with some of Kean's directness and eye for goal, and movement.
It is going to be exciting to watch their development. I believe that we will see two very much more accomplished and dangerous strikers by the end of the season.
193 Posted 02/09/2019 at 10:59:31
Fluid forward players who can play either side or centrally is what we see now, so the thing about whether Richarlison is better right or left doesn't really matter since he's expected to (and will) play both sides during games.
As for Kean, I thought he was excellent given that he's 19, new to the country, barely speaks the language, and has bugger all experience in Serie A – let alone the Premier League. He has pace, power, awareness, a great touch, good movement and didn't look out of place, without lighting the place up. He was up against a proper rugged, and physical side in Wolves and he did really well.
I think he'll be brilliant once he gets a goal or two. Have some patience with the kid.
194 Posted 02/09/2019 at 10:59:37
That's a great point that Calvert-Lewin and Kean will learn from each other. Like you, I believe we're very lucky to have two young strikers of their qualities.
Regarding overall team performance, I believe the situation is well summed up by Colin Glasser (can't recall the post numbers). We perform much better as a team, and the players are better, when we play forward and faster. When we keep halting, playing sideways and backwards, it disrupts the flow and reduces the overall quality.
195 Posted 02/09/2019 at 12:18:47
In a post to you on another thread, I made the point that I consider that goals are the result of mistakes, [I stand by that claim]. I'm sure that on reflection, Bill on his first visit will be grateful for the excitement that the five goals generated.
197 Posted 02/09/2019 at 12:40:07
you'll enjoy this!
The kid Keane is 19, Italian, making his debut . what do people expect?
And this from Souness beggars belief!
Anyway, we continue to go in the right direction! A very entertaining game too!
198 Posted 02/09/2019 at 13:23:35
199 Posted 02/09/2019 at 14:01:52
No problem, although looking back I have either mistyped or predictive text/word correction has altered it: I meant the second goal of the match, that is Wolves' first, but it came out as the second goal for Wolves.
Yes, I agree, that goals are generally the result of mistakes, but that schoolboy type error from Seamus (our Captain no less) was bad, you have to admit.
As it happened luckily it wasn't the loss of three points; let's just hope that we make 'fewer mistakes' than the opposition in the future.
200 Posted 02/09/2019 at 14:21:42
Without wishing this to become an ongoing debate, I must add that any mistake that leads directly to a goal is a 'bad mistake', and to suggest that Seamus Coleman should be expected to be more vigilant in his defensive duties because he is 'Captain' is [in my opinion] an unfair expectation.
I trust that your hope that we make 'fewer mistakes' than our opponents, in future fixtures, becomes a reality.
201 Posted 02/09/2019 at 14:48:32
There is some real crap being written. I mean who mentioned Niasse and Kean in the same sentence? Unbelievable!!
I have absolutely no doubt he will be a great signing for us. He's still young and desperate to make his mark with a goal. In my eyes, with the very little we have seen of him, he is already doing that, even without a goal.
202 Posted 02/09/2019 at 15:28:25
Although Calvert-Lewin only played about a quarter of an hour of each game, we scored more goals when he was on the pitch than we did in all the time when he wasn't.
Are you absolutely sure about that?
203 Posted 02/09/2019 at 15:34:54
Lazy commentary based on nothing to be frank!
The same can be said about the analysis of just about every aspect of the game, particularly when it comes to players making mistakes.
Coleman and Digne may have combined to present Wolves with a simple tap in but let's praise the Wolves players for a great piece of football.
Virgil van Dijk was roundly criticised for at least two of the goals Barca scored against Liverpool in the first leg of the Champions League semi-final but he is undoubtedly one of the best defenders in the World.
It's become paralysis by analysis and this focus on mistakes is probably worth highlighting if the players concerned constantly mess up. I know that is not the case as far as Coleman and Digne are concerned.
204 Posted 02/09/2019 at 15:37:33
My criticism of Calvert-Lewin has always been that he has reached the best level he is playing, and as it was not good enough; Richarlison should have continued in that position. As for Kean, he is inexperienced with the Premier League, and both himself and his teammates have to get used to each other, and also is at an age that he should keep improving.
Both players need encouragement as they are both giving their best for the club and, in my opinion, one of them will not get any better and the other one shows great potential for improvement.
205 Posted 02/09/2019 at 16:12:44
To expect a young lad of 19 with hardly a full season of games behind him, to come to a different country and play in the hardest position on the field, and expect him to hit the ground running was madness. No doubt the lad looks extremely promising but, for me, he is not ready to play week in and week out.
Also, like Kean, Calvert-Lewin would have benefited from having an experienced striker to learn from. Calvert-Lewin has got many attributes but I don't think he is a natural goalscorer. Also, I don't think that Marco Silva is going to change to a 4-4-2 system which may play to Calvert-Lewin's strength.
So I just hope at the end of the season we arent ruing not having bought a quality striker in the summer. As I believe with a quality striker we could certainly challenge for top 6 and maybe this season top 4. While Leicester can keep Vardy fit, they look like a team who we will be challenging for that top 6 position.
206 Posted 02/09/2019 at 16:39:33
More of the same, this season, every game please.
Forget Yozzer, hes just a bigoted bitter alpha hotel.
Now to get some consistency and beat Bournemouth. For me the same team starts if they are fit and available.
207 Posted 02/09/2019 at 19:37:52
That last paragraph of Darrens, about 6 or 7 players dramatically lifting their games is very true, and I wonder how much of this is down to Fabian Delph?
208 Posted 02/09/2019 at 20:09:52
Darren's intro to 'the facts' refers to all 7 goals; only Fact one references 'open play' (So what? — it's goals that count. With Calvert-Lewin starting, we just weren't scoring enough. Simples!)
The scope or context of Fact Two is very clear: "we scored more goals when he was on the pitch"
I'm sure he will claim otherwise because he never ever admits to being wrong about anything, especially when people point it out to him, which makes his posts on here so endearing.
209 Posted 02/09/2019 at 20:25:19
I like DCL, and agree with the people who say we are lucky to have him and Kean. I think they are different types, with one relishing hard work, and the other looking to always make little runs in-behind, but wether either of them is good enough to push us into the top 4 right now is very debatable, and the fact that Kean also hasnt scored might just mean that Darren was 100% correct when he stated that 6 or 7 players have dramatically lifted their game, which might explain why we have scored 7 goals in our last two matches?
210 Posted 02/09/2019 at 20:59:24
When I spoke of seven goals I was referring to the stats you put up.
I clearly stated that only five were scored from open play. You cant have a fact two without a fact one.
The forwards on the pitch had no bearing on where Sigurdsson hit his penalty or where Digne put his free-kick. I would assume that goes without saying. I'm happy to let others decide what point I was making.
211 Posted 02/09/2019 at 21:17:18
One point from the game was how vile Wolves tactics were. Although the deliberate trips and short pulling that brought seven yellow cards was like watching Uruguay and, if that is their best answer to fast attacking teams, they won't be competition this season.
212 Posted 02/09/2019 at 21:48:15
In the past weeks a lot has been said about Digne and being up there with the best and that includes Robertson.
It did not take Carragher long to have a little swipe at Digne.
213 Posted 02/09/2019 at 21:55:08
Our overall attack is much quicker, Kean is making clever runs, as is Iwobi, which is giving Siggy and Richarlison more freedom to cut in.
I would certainly stick with that starting 11 for now, with a special mention to Delph, and Mina, lets hope Delph keeps injury free.
214 Posted 03/09/2019 at 09:10:18
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216 Posted 03/09/2019 at 10:48:07
In Kean we potentially have a game changer. But he's young and I hope his development and improvement is far greater and quicker than Lukaku's was.
I say that because his style reminds me of him. Big, strong, quick, eye for goal. But poor first touch and passing.
If he's as good as Lukaku in a season or two that's no bad thing but I'd love him to be so much more.
He played well but no better or worse than Dominic. A slightly different type of player but I wish Dom would be more direct and have a pop from 25 yards.
Very early days but I'll say he'll be a HIT. Welcome to Everton.
218 Posted 03/09/2019 at 11:33:30
Exactly what we needed. Like Richarlison not the finished article but a player with so much ability and attacking threat. He also put in a real shift tracking back as did Ric.
Two have 2 big, fast, skilful, attacking wingers is a joy to watch. I'm a big fan of Bernard but he's not a real winger. He does a good job but I think his brain and skill would flourish as a central attacking midfielder.
I think Siggy could finally have real competition for his place. I'm a big admirer of his but strong competition brings out the best. Plus he's still our main goal threat.
219 Posted 03/09/2019 at 12:02:47
The positive being Digne learnt on the job, when to get tight and when to wait for back up. This allowed him to continue to be an attacking threat resulting in an excellent cross for our 3rd.
Troare has to be one of the fastest but after initially struggling Digne did well.
As for Seamus, if in doubt put it out! Instead, he tried to take a touch and was made to look foolish. He should have known better but both full-backs played well otherwise.
Pickford made some important saves and centre backs played well.
I thought Gomes was his usual calm, effective self and made some great interceptions.
Delph had a good game apart from a few needless reckless tackles in the 2nd half but I put that down to tiredness. The only concern with him is fitness. Another ex-Villa midfielder who can control games but those reckless tackles could easily have led to self-harm.
Many positives but a few doubts defensively remain.
220 Posted 03/09/2019 at 12:30:36
As a side note though, how good was Delph? I don't ever recall rating him at all previously either at Villa or City! But hey, what do I know right!! If kept fit, he could be an absolute steal and just what we need on the pitch.
222 Posted 03/09/2019 at 13:00:55
The only question mark is how easy it was for Wolves, Villa and Lincoln to score 2 goals each against the Blues. Okay they came back and won 2 of those games but the defensive side of things needs to be stepped up very soon to face the ''big boys''.
223 Posted 03/09/2019 at 13:24:45
224 Posted 03/09/2019 at 14:12:47
Ive been busy battening down the hatches for Dorian to even realize theres an international game in Miami with two Blues in it!
Alas, Dorian is heading further east, thank God.
Last time I went to Miami for soccer was to see Everton play in that preseason tournament.
Aint going this weekend though, boys! Cheers.
225 Posted 03/09/2019 at 14:24:00
What's the latest from your perspective? It seems to have weakened (but only a tad) whilst remaining over the Bahamas, with the likelihood of swinging north, keeping out to sea rather than making landfall in the states.
I imagine even if it doesn't hit the coast you'll still experience some pretty extreme and turbulent weather. Just hope you're safe.
As for the footy, the Brazilian news has made no reference as to whether they still intend to go ahead with the game. Nike, the national team's primary sponsor, will most certainly want it to go ahead if at all possible.
226 Posted 04/09/2019 at 11:48:06
"Calvert-Lewin cost barely anything so shouldn't be criticised so harshly."
Yep. At the end of the season, when our 23-year old-striker has scored 5 goals, there should be an asterisk on the golden boot list that says "but he only cost £1M."
227 Posted 04/09/2019 at 15:20:19
228 Posted 05/09/2019 at 15:52:34
Moise Kean, just know I'm gonna love him, two together or a bit of a game each. Everton are on a winner with these two.
Very happy with the result and the performance looked very good as well.
229 Posted 05/09/2019 at 16:29:18
230 Posted 05/09/2019 at 20:35:06
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