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1 Posted 14/09/2020 at 04:02:10
Your report was exactly as I saw the game. Our three new champions playing their first game as Blues were superb. However so were all those who wore the shirt proudly and so efficiently.
I have been watching Everton since 1947 and what I saw today gave all supporters a glimmer of what might be our team for the 2020s. I really hope so. CYOB
2 Posted 14/09/2020 at 04:13:58
3 Posted 14/09/2020 at 05:26:08
4 Posted 14/09/2020 at 06:11:34
Did anyone notice Pickford's starting position during one of the corners? He was actually in the middle of the 6-yard box, which gives him a split second more to catch the ball instead of letting it come into the box and haplessly watching it being nudged into the goal, which was the case till last season, when he was rooted to the line!!!
The next point is about André Gomes, there were some in the live forum who were moaning about him but what I saw from him was a delicious through ball to Calvert-Lewin. If he had let it through instead of stopping it in the blocks, he would have been one-on-one with Lloris.
Also, some of his crossfield balls to James and Coleman got lost in all the euphoria around our new "Scousetico". He was also the first press at times which again points to Carlo's tactics to try and use him further forward where he seems to be more at home.
The last point is a bit of a greedy one. Is there any chance we could get Coutinho? He has one the sweetest curlers with his right foot, and he could actually bang in a few with James supplying some delicious crossfield passes!!! I know it's difficult... but can Carlo work his magic one more time?
5 Posted 14/09/2020 at 07:04:07
Doucouré's running, Allan's reading of the game and ability to recycle the ball, and Rodriguez's touch, they not only provided the forwards with good quality ball, but they gave the defenders cover, so that Keane and Mina looked rock solid.
I was truly impressed and I'm a "glass half-empty" kind of guy.
6 Posted 14/09/2020 at 07:29:15
As they say, one swallow doesnt make a summer so I wont be getting carried away too much but even so, how enjoyable was that ?
I noticed Carlo switched Keane and Mina around which seemed to help the Columbian when he was in possession. It also meant he was closer to his fellow countryman, James, throughout the match. Only a small thing I know but it seemed to work.
Also, keep up the good work Pickford. 2 great saves at important times as well as catching and punching crosses appropriately.
Onward Evertonians. Salford next. Dont ring the changes please Carlo.
As you were blues, as they say.
7 Posted 14/09/2020 at 07:43:19
The three additions' play was neat, positive, direct and unwasteful. That's the example that needs to emanate from Everton's midfield. It needs to catch on more amongst the younger players. . . and the old players that don't, need to know that the previous dross is not acceptable for selection.
On to the training ground this week for this message to be pushed further.
8 Posted 14/09/2020 at 07:47:32
When you have worked with the midfield players Carlo has (some of the best in the world), he knows what a class midfield looks like.
9 Posted 14/09/2020 at 07:56:36
Gomes looked completely in place with this group of midfield players. All three of the new midfield group performed really well.
Pickford was much calmer if not yet 100% right - but much improved.
Keane was really composed and commanding.
Mina was just about error free
We could have scored 4 or more! Such was our dominance.
James may not have scored but showed his class with his passing, his ability to move effortlessly away from and beyond opposing players and Allan broke down so many Spurs moves.
I hate to state this but, even though Seamus did some great defending, I think we need him to be No 2 to a world-class right-back if we are to be in the top 3.
Well done, team, and well done, Carlo and staff!
10 Posted 14/09/2020 at 08:04:13
I've been screaming for a new keeper for such a long time but, if Pickford continues to perform as he did yesterday, I will be happily silenced. The team transformation was nothing short of miraculous. The new players have raised the bar and their teammates responded perfectly.
It is a long season, one or two more new signings, of similar quality to the recent acquisitions, are still required to bolster the squad in times of injuries, suspensions, loss of form etc. And the real deadwood still needs to be shifted.
But it may well prove to be the case, that certain supposedly talented individuals who have justifiably been criticised in the past for dismal performances, could at last find some consistency in their play. Something which we have only seen flashes of in the past. We all know who they are. The new players have provided them with a platform to finally shine.
11 Posted 14/09/2020 at 08:25:37
Big performance from Pickford, that's how you do it. Make the big saves, command your area and no stupid mistakes. Long may it continue.
Fantastic start. Now's the time to really capitalise on the positivity and I'd go all out for Zaha before the window closes. Think we could still use another attacking option and in some games a front three of Calvert-Lewin, Zaha and Richarlison with James dropping into midfield would be perfect. Wishful thinking but I think it would really enable us to compete all season.
12 Posted 14/09/2020 at 08:40:34
What a perfect summing up of Everton's past deficiency in one short simple sentence.
I have to confess that I had serious doubts about you, Carlo. But please accept my apology, I take it all back.
13 Posted 14/09/2020 at 08:43:23
However, as usual, my biggest worry is that Pickford is still a ticking bomb and the weakest link in this team. He made two brilliant one-on-one saves (which are his trademark) but that's his job. He did improve in the second half with his dominance of the 6-yard box, even catching a cross. However, he terrifies me when we play the ball back to him, yesterday he thought he was James when he twice tried to dribble around a forward to create space to kick out. He still puts his defenders under pressure in tight situations.
Finallly my biggest moan of all is his kick outs where he put at least 5 kick outs directly out of play. A rugby half-back would be proud of that return.
14 Posted 14/09/2020 at 08:48:23
I'm left with the feeling that there is clearly a plan in place and a promise that this team will improve as it beds in, and some of the established players raise their game to match all three of the new players.
A breath of fresh air, some lovely football and some hope. More please!
15 Posted 14/09/2020 at 08:56:20
Lots of positive signs. Unfortunately, we don't have that much time to work on training ground with a game Wednesday and again at the weekend. Looking ahead, we have 3 international fixtures in a week in October. Ridiculous.
I just hope our best players are not over-worked as, whilst undoubtedly our starting eleven is significantly stronger, the bench looks weak to me and not many on there that could change a game if we needed them too.
Really chuffed but not getting ahead of myself. Going to be frustrating days as well as good ones. Hopefully, more of the latter for a change
16 Posted 14/09/2020 at 08:57:04
If a stranger were watching the game theres no way he would think that Seamus needed replacing. He was terrific, playing against Son who is still a top forward. Doherty has been mentioned as ‘one who got away but Seamus was head and shoulders above him yesterday.
17 Posted 14/09/2020 at 09:09:52
To echo many comments, the 3 new recruits were excellent, particularly like Allan's organising. James is obviously going to get the headlines with his profile, and he clearly is a talent (strange how left-footed players always seem more naturally gifted?).
Nice to see Pickford having a solid game as well, should silence some of his doubters on this site for a while. Well the next game at least!
18 Posted 14/09/2020 at 09:11:58
I did have doubts over his hunger and whether his methods were now old-fashioned and dated. I also thought he needs a top class coach to do the training ground work for him, as at every major club he's been at, he still might. But so far he's dispelling all those doubts and long may it continue.
I was also highly critical of Michael Keane, saying he can only play well in a low block. Whilst it was not a high line yesterday, it wasn't far off and with proper midfielders in front of him, he was not exposed and had a good game. Looks like, to use Gaynes's expression, I might have to “eat some crow” on him!
19 Posted 14/09/2020 at 09:17:34
Pickford, two excellent saves and more dominance of his box. Coleman dealt with Son well, especially first half. Keane and Mina looked excellent. Digne was his usual self and a delicious delivery for the goal.
Allan was immense, tidy, efficient, moving the ball constantly. Doucouré, what an engine and pace. Gomes, looked confident and the passing with the other midfielders was a joy to watch.
James looked comfortable, with time and you can see the creativity. Richarlison worked his socks off, should have scored at least 2 but never stops. Calvert-Lewin... beautiful header. It's what he should do more. Big strong powerful lad and has all the attributes. I really want him to succeed.
Just a wonderful performance, enjoyable to watch football and more to come. Well done, Carlo and team!!
20 Posted 14/09/2020 at 09:22:52
Let's hope that yesterday marks the start of something really good, however, we have to bear in mind that Spurs were very poor and it's only the first game of the season.
21 Posted 14/09/2020 at 09:33:36
I've been watching since 1996, and don't remember too many team performances as accomplished as that. COYB
22 Posted 14/09/2020 at 09:39:53
Who of Gomes, Doucoure, Allan and Rodriguez has to drop out of the team to fit him in? Do we really want to go 4-3-3?
Or do we want to put him on the bench as an impact sub?
Given Moanrinio's complaints about another forward, then I think he may be off to "3 points lane". Football is all about having the best players for the formation you are playing. Remember those dark days of Gerrard and Lampard in the England team and playing the best players but sacrificing the best formation simply to shoehorn them in.
Yesterday, we had the best formation with the best players playing to their strengths in the formation set up by the manager. Good day to be a blue. Thanks, Carlo.
23 Posted 14/09/2020 at 09:40:38
Brands also seems to have had a good window after 2 years of ups and downs - mainly downs. He seems to have worked in sync with Carlo and our recruitment has been very precise. Weve paid good prices as well.
Lots of positive signs at the moment. Stiffening up the midfield seems to have transformed us. And Rodriguez looks like a potential superstar.
We need to hope some clubs get desperate towards the end of the window and take some of our deadwood off us. That will round off a great window and pre season for us.
24 Posted 14/09/2020 at 09:41:22
I genuinely cannot believe how good he was. No fear, quick over 5 yards to get himself in space or away from trouble.
I do wish Richarlison would play with a smile on his face. Doesn't fill me with confidence when he looms miserable the whole time.
Is it just me that thinks that playing without crowds actually benefits us? I think taking away that pressure when low on confidence as we have been for years allows the players to just express themselves. Hopefully, a good start and then fans coming back in to grounds will lead to a great run.
25 Posted 14/09/2020 at 09:43:21
We'll find a way around that, because I'd just let James float around and do what he wants after yesterday.
I'm looking forward to seeing how consistent we can be. And I'm genuinely looking forward to watching us next game, out of joy & anticipation rather than duty. That shows me what a very good start yesterday was.
26 Posted 14/09/2020 at 09:44:33
You can't question his pedigree; it's there in the history books – only 2 other managers have won 3 Champions Leagues.
But you questioned whether he still had the desire or whether his methods were outdated. Yet you backed our previous manager to the hilt and he couldn't hold a candle to Ancelotti.
Mind, you weren't alone in questioning Ancelotti. This was before he had even bought a player. Yesterday was only one game and there is a long way to go to turn this club around, but I feel more confident in Ancelotti being able to do this than most managers in our history.
Just a pity Moshiri couldn't have got him when he took over the club, imagine if Ancelotti had a budget of £450 million. If he had we would be talking top 4 or even better.
27 Posted 14/09/2020 at 09:47:07
Their record in winning trophies over the last 20 - 25 years is as bad as ours. They may have spent a few years in the Champions League... so what? But, in my opinion, it will be a good few more years before they get there again.
If anyone can convince me they deserve to be classed as one of the so-called big clubs, then fair enough. As Jim Royle would say, "Spurs, big club? My arse!"
Anyway, onto the game. A fantastic performance, and great debut for all three new signings. The service provided by Jmaes looks promising for the season, as Richarlison could have easily scored a couple from his crosses. Defence looked solid and Pickford appears to have had a rocket shoved up his rear!
The midfield looked unrecognizable, with some great challenges put in by Allan to break up their play, well aided by Doucouré. The only downside for me being we could, and probably should, have won by a bigger margin, but 38 1-0 wins and hey ho!!
28 Posted 14/09/2020 at 10:26:46
I am amazed how quickly these new players integrated and they have only been with us for a week. There was so much excitement and I can heap praise on the new signings but the effect these new players seemed to have on the rest of the Team was amazing. The level of performance of everybody was a number of steps up on last season. Richarlison probably had a poor enough day but got better as he went along.
One thing I will say is with that midfield I think he will get 20+ goals this season no problem. Calvert-Lewin... it remains to be seen but, if he chips in with 20, then we are really are off the to the races.
There were lots of standout moments in the performance but one that really stood out for me was the Doucouré interception in the first half where he came flying through the middle and won the ball in front of the Spurs player, he then laid it off to James who had a shot just left of the far post.
That right there was exactly what we have been missing in midfield with the pedestrian nature of the last few seasons. You of course need guile but you do need energy in this league also and that was there yesterday.
Early days but my cup of Joe is tasting better than it has for a long time this morning after the opening day of the season.
29 Posted 14/09/2020 at 10:31:43
One swallow does not a summer make, but there are 37 dots above the horizon. When I look through my binoculars I can just make them out, they are all swallows.
30 Posted 14/09/2020 at 10:49:33
Once Richie finds his shooting boots, I can see us running up a few big wins this autumn, hopefully starting with WBA.
How great would a full-house welcome for the new boys have been at Goodison? Doesn't bear thinking about.
31 Posted 14/09/2020 at 11:09:36
Let's not forget this was Carlo's first transfer window and what a triumph it's been. Onwards and upwards. Heads down. Keep grafting and get stuck into every team we play against and we could be right up there.
Can't wait to get back to Goodison to cheer this lot on. Great times ahead blues fans. Enjoy.
32 Posted 14/09/2020 at 11:09:51
"The first Premier League debutant to create at least five chances since Alexis Sanchez for Arsenal in August 2014."
33 Posted 14/09/2020 at 11:29:09
Keep the young un's for development now they have the right role models
34 Posted 14/09/2020 at 11:48:07
35 Posted 14/09/2020 at 12:17:27
36 Posted 14/09/2020 at 12:52:31
With your 50th wedding anniversary coming soon, how are you coping with making it the special occasion?
in regards to the win at Spurs (keeping on target) - what a superb start to our season?
37 Posted 14/09/2020 at 13:01:29
In part because we kept the ball, he was never under huge swathes or pressure but he did handle most stuff.
Hes shown he can still do it, but not for 38 games. Thats why its still hugely important we get a younger right back who can compliment James, to cover and allow him to drift. Typically yesterday Allan filled the hole when James was left upfield, but encouraging signs our veteran can still hack it, because honestly I thought he was done. Nice one Seamus!
38 Posted 14/09/2020 at 13:08:51
He has never been responsible alone in some abject displays last season
39 Posted 14/09/2020 at 13:10:18
40 Posted 14/09/2020 at 13:26:27
I've lost count of the number of times over the years we've done the hard part and then disappointed in the next game. The dreaded false syndrome.
I, for one, will be made up to grind out an ugly one goal victory over the Baggies.
41 Posted 14/09/2020 at 13:28:02
Phil #12, my ears perked up at the same statement, and it's clear that Carlo will be emphasizing that aspect of our play in training throughout the season. Seeing the ball on James' foot should make any player want to run into space.
Neil #13, Jamie C. was moaning about the same thing on the Forum yesterday, and I think it's just a very unimportant gripe when compared with stopping shots and controlling the box as Pickford did yesterday. A keeper's first responsibility when clearing the ball is to put it where the opponent cannot bring it right back at him, especially when we're defending a one-goal lead with tired legs. Pickford was aiming for DCL and Rich along the touchlines, and a few times it sailed beyond them, resulting in a Spurs throw-in 60 yards from our goal. I'm absolutely fine with that. Any counterattacks Pickford can initiate with his distribution are a nice bonus, but certainly not a requirement.
Steve #18, wish I'd invented the term, because the residuals would be terrific for my finances! But I agree with your point, and it emphasizes my previously expressed views that the three new additions would help our defense as much as our attack because they wouldn't lose the ball in midfield as we have so often in recent seasons. That proved out as Mina and Keane were able to play the higher line with less fear of sudden counterattacks resulting from errors in the middle of the pitch. And I don't know if anybody else noticed, but Mina's passes out of the back were faultlessly accurate.
Michael #30, I have no such concerns. Assuming Carlo gives Sunday's midfield starters the day off, we will start at Salford this week with Siggy, Iwobi, Davies, and either Bernard or Gordon -- our starting midfield for much of last season. That's superb depth. We lack strong reserves only up front and in goal.
Phil #22, agree. Zaha to me is not a priority at all, especially given his still-inflated price tag.
Mike #21, aside from the cultured left foot, it would be hard to think of two more different players than Barry and Rodriguez!
42 Posted 14/09/2020 at 13:33:13
Nice that we can critique on the back of a victory but here's mine for what it's worth. . We've spent a couple of seasons developing DCL as a traditional centre-forward and now it looks like we've assembled a midfield that probably won't be looking to feed a traditional centre-forward! True he buried the one cross he got like Nat Lofthouse,and boy did I jump off my sofa but DCL is going to have to learn to adapt (again!) to those 'slide throughs' à la Fernando Torres,which I'm not sure is his game.
But anyway it's a small point and hopefully I'm worrying unnecessarily. Well done,great start,nice to get up on a Monday feeling positive. COYB.
43 Posted 14/09/2020 at 13:46:40
44 Posted 14/09/2020 at 13:47:53
If we keep the ball well, and it looks like we can, we will get caught less in transition.
However last 15 minutes James was only notionally involved and gave Seamus nothing to help out. A couple of times he waved the Spurs player through. Now, sure James is only 80% fit, so improvement is needed. But I want James to feel like he can gamble.
The crux for me is the right back needs to be technically gifted. We are still ponderous at the back and the ball speed slows down often when Seamus receives the ball, in part the distribution, but most he isnt that good technically often bobbling the ball. The angle gets closed off, it more often than not goes backwards.
A better technician handles bad balls better and most importantly get the ball to James quickly.
Last word to Seamus for the way he handled the Moura/Kane breakaway in the first half. Gave them nothing when outnumbered.
45 Posted 14/09/2020 at 13:51:41
46 Posted 14/09/2020 at 13:56:47
Bob, thanks for your good wishes and concern. Im ok thanks, as are the rest of my family. I refrained from posting because I wanted to give TW a rest from my COVID obsession. Its not really the place is it?
Wed hoped to have a big get together on 26th September, but it had been obvious for a while that wasnt happening, so weve deferred the big do for 12 months, and in the hope that a viable vaccine is available. Instead were just having a socially distanced get together of close local family, part of which will be in the back garden weather permitting. Rule of 6 will apply! Special present and cake arranged, but thats a secret! Im doing the cooking too.
The display on Sunday was heartening wasnt it? Everybody stepped up and performed, and the 3 newcomers were each superb.
Most people on here would be unsurprised that sorting out the midfield was the priority, but the impetus going forward, and the solidity in defending was a bit of an eye opener. They treated the ball with respect, keeping possession and passing with care. But they passed progressively, what Carlo called vertically. Allan looks like the Gueye replacement we needed and with Doucouré allows the likes of Gomes( and dare I say Sigurdsson ) the time and space to do their best work. Pace, power, tenacity and skill. James looks like a throwback to previous times to me. The first couple of yards are in his head, and he has a mental picture of where everyone is. Sheedyesque left foot.
It just feels that the plan is in place and were back on track after a series of detours. Time will improve the cohesion, and a couple of judicious deals or loans for a pacy central defender and one other wont harm. But a few outgoings as well Id guess.
Fingers crossed for a good season replete with silky soccer!
Take care Bob
47 Posted 14/09/2020 at 14:06:18
I couldnt agree more! Jordan, despite marking some absolutely brilliant saves and some punches Mike Tyson would be proud of, still gives me a heart attack when hes on the ball.
And out-kicking everyone on the pitch or kicking it into touch literally drives me mad. Its just giving the ball directly back to the opponent. Drives me absolutely crazy!
Ive been hesitant to post on it because we played so, so well yesterday why would we focus on any negative? Including Jordan! Without him its a whole different ballgame. Great couple of saves he made. Hes just as responsible for three points as James, Allan, Doucoure, DCL, all of them.
But it is absolutely an area of improvement Jordan needs to make.
48 Posted 14/09/2020 at 14:06:25
If he was accurate he could put it into space for DCL and Richie to attack, they are fast enough.
I am also very nervous everytime a ball is passed back to Jordan. I only think it is a matter of time before he gets too cocky again and we get caught out. He played with fire on a number of occasions in the first half and that worried me.
Believe me, I hope I am wrong but I have to express what I feel watching a game and almost everything else in yesterdays game was so encouraging, even Jordans second half dominance of the 6 yard area.
49 Posted 14/09/2020 at 14:12:06
Id agree his much vaunted distribution still needs improvement. Those long kicks were often under little pressure and they are not just a little awry they were off the radar!
In his defense Id ask you to look at his demeanor yesterday, it was by his standards, calm and unfussy. No histrionics, no ridiculous gestures. He looked focused and solid. Its the kind of base performance I want from him, dont you agree?
50 Posted 14/09/2020 at 14:12:51
While we're bedding things in, I like Rodriguez starting on the right but drifting around as a playmaker as opposed to someone playing up and down the flank.
A pacey dribbler would be good too - but we must be just about done on spending now. Maybe Dalot on loan as an adventurous option at RB rather than the very expensive Zaha.
51 Posted 14/09/2020 at 14:21:54
Secondly though while he hasnt been brilliant the last 2 seasons, he and the rest of the defence have been constantly under the pump sitting behind that midfield we had. The entire defence looked better yesterday, Jesus big Yerry looked like Baresi at times. All because they were protected much better and had more time on the ball. Also, Seamuss decision making in defensive situations as you alluded too was top class on a few occasions. Seamus certainly isnt Cafu but is technically decent.
Now we all know his best days are behind him but with Kenny there also (if he stays or if we get Arias) I'm not too concerned about right back. I would be more worried about left back as we have no cover for Digne at all.
Anyway its all good. Nearly 24 hours on and Im still happy as a pig in shit.
52 Posted 14/09/2020 at 14:30:54
Much calmer. If you look through my comments, there has been a noticeable improvement in areas which I was previously nervous about. Six yard box dominance and organising the players in front of him. However, I still worry about the teams tendency to pass the ball back to Jordan as I worry what he will try to do with it.
Next job for Alan Kelly to focus on and maybe we will get a sensible composed keeper who doesnt put his teammates under unnecessary pressure.
53 Posted 14/09/2020 at 14:35:00
He's accurate, I was moaning. It just drives me batshit crazy, Jordan's distribution.
But to be crystal clear, he was fantastic yesterday in doing what keepers must do - stoping the damn ball from going in the back of the net.
54 Posted 14/09/2020 at 14:42:21
Auto-correct butchered your last name. Apologies, Mr. Cremin.
We're on the same page regarding Jordan. If he can just work out that nuclear foot of his and his distribution, as well as his head (which he absolutely did yesterday!) we've got a phenomenal keeper.
55 Posted 14/09/2020 at 14:44:00
I know you don't much care for the guy -- Jamie and John P don't either -- but he did all the important things well yesterday. And his distribution in his own end was flawless as we played the ball out of the back -- every pass right on somebody's foot where it needed to be. No mistakes, nothing coming back at him. So if some of his long 'uns went awry, why does it matter?
56 Posted 14/09/2020 at 14:50:01
I am also concerned by Pickford. The objective of passing back to him is to maintain possession.
Pickford is over confident sometimes when the ball is being played from the back, though was ok with his throw outs in this game. But I too have the same fear as you, Had
I was not impressed with his kicking out. He lost possession four times by over kicking to the ball to the wings, with the ball going out. Some of his passing was very heavy and he also kicked the ball out in two occasions straight to a unmarked opposition player. All. of these instances where after sterling teamwork to maintain possession, only to see it wasted by him.
He did his goalkeeping job well, but his distribution was woeful. No wonder Ancelotti preferes playing out from the back.
57 Posted 14/09/2020 at 14:59:10
58 Posted 14/09/2020 at 15:05:30
Allan's superb backing up of Seamus time and time again meant James wasn't constantly tracking back and so being caught out of position when we came forward again.
If your goalkeeper's distribution is more accurate then the ball wouldn't come straight back as often as it did yesterday so less pressure in him and his defence.
The team played well as a whole, but the defence was too deep again and a team more on their game than Spurs could have taken some of the chances they had.
59 Posted 14/09/2020 at 15:07:34
60 Posted 14/09/2020 at 15:15:49
Haters will always hate.
There is no such thing as the perfect performance but 2 great saves at nil nil. Being noticeably more dominate on crosses and punching clear. Keeping a clean sheet.
Not sure what else people want from a goalie?
I can see this being a long season for Seamus on the pages of tw. Keeping Son quiet for most of the game and defending manfully isn't enough. Not sure what else he has to do to convince people that he is still a top class player.
Without the 3 new lads we would have been turned over yesterday. Will Ancelotti go for Zaha?
61 Posted 14/09/2020 at 15:16:14
Keepers who regularly launch attacks with deadly long balls are few and far between, and Pickford ain't one of them. He'll never be Ederson. That's OK.
62 Posted 14/09/2020 at 15:17:54
63 Posted 14/09/2020 at 15:23:40
Haters will always hate.
To be clear, I think I and a few others are being complimentary to Jordan, while pointing out a major deficiency in his game. Despite the fact Mike doesn't see it as a problem, I'd quote Andrew @ 58:
If your goalkeeper's distribution is more accurate then the ball wouldn't come straight back as often as it did yesterday so less pressure in him and his defence.
That's a real thing.
Not hating, looking for improvement. Loved the game yesterday, and as I've said previously, Jordan Pickford was a massive part of that three points. We most likely wouldn't have gotten three points if it weren't for Jordan, credit where it's due.
Not hating. Nit-Picky? Maybe. But not hating.
64 Posted 14/09/2020 at 15:24:45
Kenny Branthwaite Gibson Nkounkou
Davies Delph Bernard
Bolaise Kean Gordon
Only in jest, but that team would do the business. In reality expect 4 or 5 changes
65 Posted 14/09/2020 at 15:25:48
We shouldnt forget the team that has been in front of him for the last few seasons.
He would regularly look for a positive shorter passes to a defender/midfielder only for the ball to reappear seconds later (with an opponent attached) because the our lot couldnt trap a sandbag.
The lack of ability and confidence in the team led to Pickford trying to bypass the midfield with hollywood long balls, probably happy in the knowledge that worst case he wouldn't see it again for at least 60 seconds.
Now that the midfield has been improved and we have players able to receive a pass under pressure I expect Pickfords distribution to improve with his long balls reserved for urgent clearances and quick counterattacks
66 Posted 14/09/2020 at 15:31:47
I was listening to the 606 phone-in yesterday, as I wanted to hear the calls regarding this transformed Everton as well as the pundits' take on our game, and some American dude named Josh (pretty sure it was Josh?) called in. I would guess he lives "over there" and was very, very funny and knowledgable.
Any chance this Josh is on TW? Dude was hilarious. You could tell Robbie Savage and the other host (?) were challenging him, probably down to the American accent and the immediate English reaction of, "Let's challenge this Yank, he clearly won't know shit." And this kid completely held his own and was an entertaining call-in.
Josh, ya there in TW cyberspace?
67 Posted 14/09/2020 at 15:42:08
68 Posted 14/09/2020 at 15:43:30
69 Posted 14/09/2020 at 15:45:00
The kid is hysterical, wholly American, and witty as hell. If I could draw up the Yank Blue we want to clone to take over the universe, he'd look a lot like that kid. 😜
70 Posted 14/09/2020 at 15:45:59
71 Posted 14/09/2020 at 15:47:17
He gets a hard time because hes extremely talented and the bar he set is one he would concede hes failed to get anywhere near on a regular basis. I think players who have massive talent and frequently fail to maximize it are the ones who get it in the gut the most. Id include Rom in that debate. He is a beast, he has more than goals in his game, in-fact he is Didier Drogba ‘respawned. Im digressing but Pickford has the ability, I want to see continual improvement and consistency, the minutiae which Andrew (58.)alludes to is exactly what that entails.
Seamus is a different matter, surely we can all see the way Ancellotti wants to go, building the team around James. Why not, everything I read screams he wants to be the main man, a talisman. So its really important the players he links with frequently are ones who best improve the team. James most frequent passes were Doucouré & Coleman. Doucouré clearly will be James legs and Coleman has to provide the ball efficiently and offer a decoy on the right. James never once went outside and probably never will. Coleman is a good player imo, not the style of player who will support James the best. Accepting that hes not going to pull that performance out every game is fair at his stage in his career surely? Moreover getting a new right back in means less games for Seamus and a much higher chance his performance level stays high?
These posts are reflections, in the afterglow of a superb effort yesterday. Its the cycle of TWer poster!
72 Posted 14/09/2020 at 15:51:24
I like Rob think you are spot on with that team selection, if our fringe players cant walk all over Salford then they arent good enough to be our fringe players. There is no way Carlo will risk any of his first team playing, he wouldnt want any of them to get injured, especially Mina and Keane while Holgate is out injured.
73 Posted 14/09/2020 at 15:58:09
The kid may not have been a full three sheets to the wind, but he was certainly hove-to in a stiff breeze. Sutton and Savage must have been chuckling off-mic. Especially when the kid advocated selling Richarlison.
74 Posted 14/09/2020 at 16:01:03
75 Posted 14/09/2020 at 16:07:14
The most important thing for now, having been a pretty big fan for a few years, is just how sweet the last 24 hours have been. Its a real joy to share with you all in the excitement of this season, our new additions, and yesterdays splendid match. Im proud to continue the tradition of the past couple decades of a strong American connection to the club — at least in terms of players, but hopefully the fan base over here will continue to grow as well.
76 Posted 14/09/2020 at 16:13:36
Marcel and Carlo had clearly been listening to Mike Gaynes: Midfield, midfield, midfield.
Beforehand I would have taken a draw, as an away match at White Hart Lane is a tough start to the season.
It was wonderful to see our players stroking the ball around the pitch with such ease.
We deserved our win, and can look forward to the coming season.
One thing that will have helped our new players, they have all a compatriot at our club who can help settle in quicker in their own language.
As we could see yesterday, it worked dividends!
77 Posted 14/09/2020 at 16:16:27
78 Posted 14/09/2020 at 16:17:09
Maybe Jordan has had a good look at himself, or started listening to his coach, whatever, going on yesterdays game, he was fully aware, realised hes didnt have to be glued to his goal line, made two good saves, I believe, I only saw the second half, made two terrific punches, taking no prisoners, one of his kicks annoyed me, straight to the opposition, but hes allowed those sort of mistakes, in my eyes, not that serious.
It was only one game, but if he really has learned from his mistakes, then I hope he continues as he played yesterday, we can all relax and enjoy.
That just leaves Keane, can two leopards change their spots? Id love to think so.
79 Posted 14/09/2020 at 16:17:31
Jamie #74, nothing wrong at all. It's just my sober assessment.
80 Posted 14/09/2020 at 16:20:12
Talking of overly critical people, I think some expect too much of Pickford. Now that he got his goalkeeping together we are criticizing him for not being Tom Brady and launching 60 yard balls that land on a dime. Obviously he could improve but every player could improve: No one is perfect, even James is slow. Ive been frustrated with Pickford but now we are being kind of unreasonable for n our nit picking
81 Posted 14/09/2020 at 16:21:31
82 Posted 14/09/2020 at 16:23:19
Jonathan #81, cool. Feel free to jump in when John P and I disagree, which happens often (especially on VAR). I got my first badge while living in Austin, Minnesota in 1980.
83 Posted 14/09/2020 at 16:30:24
It could only happen on ToffeeWeb, Mike, three Bluenoses based in America and all referees,did you ever find out who your dads were!!!
84 Posted 14/09/2020 at 16:33:18
Make it four, Im also a ref based in the USA though Im one of those immigrants Trump loves not a Yank
85 Posted 14/09/2020 at 16:35:28
Hello Yank! 32nd Ave and Colfax in Uptown is where I called home for 14 months of my life in my mid twenties. Great area, great city / cities. Enjoy the Great White North - too freaking cold for me now.
I used to grab the skates, head to the outdoor rink at Lake of the Isles, and play hockey for HOURS in the winter there. Love your area of the country.
Cheers. Post. Respect the Scousers. If they tell you to shut it, shut it. Simple. ;0)
86 Posted 14/09/2020 at 16:39:14
Id say it was a case of one of our players being over scrutinised and compared to much less critical analysis of potential alternatives. Plenty of outfield players cant deliver the ball with the consistent accuracy that is apparently expected for Pickford, never mind the vast majority of goalkeepers.
Unfortunately I dont think the guy will ever get a truly impartial comparison with his peers from the people who have been appealing for his replacement to be a priority.
Mike G, hope things are okay in Oregon. Has Albert posted recently?
87 Posted 14/09/2020 at 16:39:54
88 Posted 14/09/2020 at 16:43:14
Dave, I think it's something in the water over here.
Si #86, just smoke and ash at my house, no fire danger, but I haven't seen another post from Albert since he posted about possible evacuation last week. He's pretty close to one of the big fires, so that's concerning.
89 Posted 14/09/2020 at 16:45:13
90 Posted 14/09/2020 at 16:46:54
91 Posted 14/09/2020 at 16:48:46
No worries VAR said you never deserved the yellow
92 Posted 14/09/2020 at 16:55:15
93 Posted 14/09/2020 at 17:09:59
Lets agree to disagree.
I have never been a fan of Jordan. Great shot stopper, probably the best in the business but for me a top class keeper is more than that. He needs bring authority and calm in front of goal.
He still makes me nervous. Sorry.
And if you check the live forum from yesterdays game, I gave Jordan full credit for the way he played.
Hopefully, I will be able to watch the next few games where I am not a nervous wreck when the ball is passed back to the keeper.
Nil Satis Nisi Optimum.
94 Posted 14/09/2020 at 17:11:30
If he does he'll join our three new signings already in or near that category, Richie, Digne and, dare I say it, DCL also being there or thereabouts.
This season we should be confident, for once in many many seasons, of going to any ground with a sense of purpose that'll prevent any other manager fielding a team of sprogs against us.
The knives-to-a-gunfight decades are mercifully over aren't they?
95 Posted 14/09/2020 at 17:35:28
I thought Liverpools second penalty was harsh, because although the Leeds player was silly and got it all wrong, Im not sure there would have been contact, if Fabinho, hadnt cleverly brought his knee into the defenders leg.
Then we had the second Leicester penalty, which hasnt drew that much attention because the game was already won, but a player going away from goal, actually taking the ball out the box, got a penalty, leaving me feeling that football has got a lot of laws, that have not properly been thought out, and is also a sport that is encouraging cheating.
Sorry for being a bit to serious and boring, but I hate how the game I love is now full of cheats, and was wondering if you had any decent suggestions from the other side of the game, that might help to get rid of the cheating?
96 Posted 14/09/2020 at 17:38:36
97 Posted 14/09/2020 at 17:41:24
98 Posted 14/09/2020 at 17:59:15
Kieran and John P, thanks for letting me off the hook.
Tony #95, I know you're convinced that pen was "harsh" but it wasn't. And it wasn't deliberately drawn, either. It was a clear, stone-dead, no-dispute pen. Perhaps you noted there wasn't a word of complaint from Rodrigo or his teammates. Any referee not calling a pen that obvious would be pulled from the rotation for the following week.
As to indirects, they are almost never given anymore for anything except offsides, and, it's been decades since I've seen one given in the box for anything besides the goalkeeper picking up a backpass. Obstruction, as it used to be called (now "impeding") wouldn't apply, and dangerous play these days is almost always given as a foul and a direct kick. So I think your suggestion just isn't possible in the modern game. The cure for diving is VAR and a yellow. But players are going to fall down. That's part of the modern game too.
99 Posted 14/09/2020 at 17:59:17
Yes, I imagine it would. When the rare scenario of the keeper taking too many steps is called in the box, that rarely leads to a goal. Usually someone whacks it at the wall on the line.
The problem is that, in their infinite wisdom, the powers that be seem to favor anything that leads to goals, even if it's highly dubious. That's led refs to giving so many fouls in the box that would never get called elsewhere on the field.
So, like you, I'm in favor of more fair play but I don't think the money men will ever do anything to create fairer play if it potentially means fewer goals or less controversy. The VAR for example, I don't like its implementation but I think the Premier League see the controversies as generating interest so they're content for its poor implementation to roll on.
100 Posted 14/09/2020 at 18:01:56
Allan has his work cut out to be classed with Reid, but what he showed yesterday was unmistakably a Reidy attitude. That'll do for me. More of that will see us put up much a greater defiance against the teams who have brushed us aside in recent seasons.
Doucoure did what I expected him to. The consistency he has searched for may come with playing on a bigger stage with better players. Whether you like comparisons to past players or not, they are inevitable. He will almost certainly be compared to Bracewell.
MOTM was a close call all round, but I would go for big Yerry. No crowd meant we were able to see and hear he was the one doing all the talking, kept his passes simple and accurate too..
Pickford still worries me. He did make an eye catching save, but I suspect Rob Hal would tell you it was one he should have made, because it was a very nice height for a goalkeeper...He cant keep aimlessly hoofing it down field. Its embarrassing
Made up with the over all performance, but as I said before the game it is still only 1 x 38/th of the season and the health of our players will be rigorously tested in the coming weeks.
That said I will make one prediction even at this early stage; If we are going to launch an assault on the top five this year. I would not consider Spurs as one of our rivals. Something not quite right there. If they don't make a couple of signings, yesterday will prove to be only the start of their troubles.
I suspect Arsenal, Leicester and Wolves will all be thinking the same thing.
101 Posted 14/09/2020 at 18:10:25
The player had lost the ball and was already on his way down, the contact didnt change that.
Jeeez, I sympathize with the mechanics youve thought through regarding indirect free kicks. They are a messy, unsatisfactory way to resolve a situation. They will fade from the game soon enough. The law as you want to stand in your description just doesnt exist. But as Ive said many times before the game has changed and the laws havent kept pace with it. However you do want the award of direct free kick to remain consistent across the entire pitch, its the action you want to change. Ive long thought unless its a foul in the act of shooting fouls in the box like the one you describe should be resolved with a free shot a goal from the top of the D much harder, not a guaranteed and reflects where the foul is in the box. Getting free shot a goal for some of the fouls we see is pathetic.
But I think you are dead on if you change action then players would think twice about their actions in box.
102 Posted 14/09/2020 at 18:18:24
Hes probably got a point.
103 Posted 14/09/2020 at 18:23:29
104 Posted 14/09/2020 at 18:23:40
Of Evertons three new signings on the pitch, Allan was probably the most effective: quietly fighting fires, snapping into tackles, disrupting Tottenhams attempts to play on the break. Abdoulaye Doucouré was probably the most dynamic: leading the press, nurturing and progressing the ball in the most crowded areas of the pitch. But the most eye-catching by some distance was Rodríguez, the fallen prince-in-exile with a left foot of pure silk and a left knee made of a very similar substance. Though it is now almost a week since Rodríguez joined Everton from Real Madrid, there was still something deeply surreal about seeing this genuine A-lister on the same right wing once patrolled by Steven Naismith. Somehow, for all our overexposure to them, great players still have a habit of catching the breath, of taking the touch or making the shuffle that marks them out from their peers.
Though it is now almost a week since Rodríguez joined Everton from Real Madrid, there was still something deeply surreal about seeing this genuine A-lister on the same right wing once patrolled by Steven Naismith. Somehow, for all our overexposure to them, great players still have a habit of catching the breath, of taking the touch or making the shuffle that marks them out from their peers.
105 Posted 14/09/2020 at 18:24:12
I would agree. Total team performance but not in the patronizing, bodies on the line, plucky little Everton way but in a totally professional, confident way.
106 Posted 14/09/2020 at 18:28:41
107 Posted 14/09/2020 at 18:28:47
In basketball, Aussie Rules footy and even hockey (penalty shot), the player fouled is the one who takes the freebie. Seems logical to me.
108 Posted 14/09/2020 at 18:34:36
Never, ever understood why you get to pick a player to take the PK. Whomever was fouled should take the kick. That's a really weird rule for me.
109 Posted 14/09/2020 at 18:45:45
110 Posted 14/09/2020 at 18:50:16
Given he never scores full stop watching him waltz down the ice and slot like Crosby was tremendous and truly unlikely. Imagine Hibbo or Keane slotting in the last minute. would be epic.
111 Posted 14/09/2020 at 19:20:37
The Leeds players never argued, whats the point? Their player had been careless, if he didnt dangle his leg Fabinho wouldnt have went down, and they knew theyd been done by a clever player. Welcome to the big league - those that learn the quickest, get on the most. Well thats my take anyway.
Good points John, Id love to rearrange loads of the modern day laws, especially the one where a player is running away from the goal and out the box to retrieve the ball, gets a penalty, but a player clean through on goal who gets tripped six inches outside the box, only gets a free kick.
Modernise football and stop the cheats prospering, VAR, is a tool, (Doesnt the human race, realise thats its unintentionally preparing itself for the robot?) but something is not quite right with so much of it, simply because different refs have different interpretations, which takes consistency out of a lot of these decisions right away imo.
To be honest I never thought it was a foul on Richarlison, for the free-kick that led to Everton scoring, but wasnt it lovely to see Martin Atkinson finally give us a metre after all these years, I couldnt believe it!
Agree with that Kieran, controversy keeps people talking, even if most of it is a load of shite. Ill finish on that now!
112 Posted 14/09/2020 at 19:23:16
113 Posted 14/09/2020 at 19:28:15
What a refreshing change to read some proper journalism albeit slightly romantic and with flowery prose, but the sentiment I think was shared by all Evertonians and I do hope that Mr Liew has many more opportunities to wax lyrical about Everton this season.
114 Posted 14/09/2020 at 19:31:05
I agree with everything you say in your post, and I thought Mina had his best display since coming to the club. I see Peter Reid has tweeted to give a big thumbs up to Allan, so even the great man himself likes the look of Allan. I also agree with your comments about something not being right at Spurs, they seemed rudderless on Sunday, no real clear way to what style they are trying to achieve. I have my doubts about Pickford but he made 2 very good saves, and if they had gone in it might have been a different game.
Again you are absolutely right to say this is game 1 of 38, and lets not get to carried away, but it was a very promising start.
Finally you have been a critic of as you call him " the wily old fox" maybe displays like this may turn you into a believer. I love Ancelotti and everything about him a real class act, probably had to bite his lip when he took over looking at some of the dross his predecessors had bought. But within weeks of the window opening has brought in 3 quality players that has completely changed the mindset of the club. Early days I know but even a sceptic like you Darren must have been impressed with the first outing of Carlos buys.
115 Posted 14/09/2020 at 19:38:39
116 Posted 14/09/2020 at 19:41:45
Why not, eh? What could go wrong? Don't answer that.
I'll leave that nightmare scenario to the ‘once a season' Tony Marsh comment which will arrive once we hit a bad patch of form.
117 Posted 14/09/2020 at 19:48:14
Jordan is an interesting one, and I think it's like this with some players who are really talented and in an average team...
Jordan's range is higher than up in potential than most Prem goalies, so when he's on it, he is top class. That's why Chelski and Man U were rumoured to be watching him, as he can makes saves up there with De Gea and Alisson, when he's on it some days. Also proved it in the World cup with some worldies too.
This year, knowing there's a great chance to challenge for 1st in the league with ambitious Carlo (less than 38 games to go and counting down to do a Leicester) and at least a very good chance for Champions League, he will be back to his best this season as there is a point to this season with world class players in the squad, compared to last season.
118 Posted 14/09/2020 at 20:58:26
119 Posted 14/09/2020 at 21:16:56
I've been saying since his name was first mentioned how much fun we would have watching him play. I cannot wait for next weekend.
120 Posted 14/09/2020 at 21:35:53
I guess you can't read too much into 90 minutes of football; history is littered with fans getting ahead of themselves based on slim evidence. But what you can definitely say is that:
(a) Everton look better than at the end of last season,
(b) Pickford seems a bit less of a liability, and
(c) we're definitely going to win the Champions League next season after winning the Premier League at a canter this season.
121 Posted 14/09/2020 at 22:09:19
Of all the lousy quarterbacks who ever played for the Bears (and there have been so many), Cade McNown may have been the worst. 20 years after his last crappy pass, the bitterness still lingers in some Bears fans.
122 Posted 14/09/2020 at 22:27:28
Prior to the match, I stopped myself from going Moyse-esque and playing down expectation. Expect the new lads to take time to settle and don't expect much from today I thought. In a similar almost contradictory vein, I would now add caution amongst the optimism with the sentiment that it is just one match from 38 and there is a long season ahead. That said, how encouraging to see such a difference in our team's mentality.
To compliment the Guardian quotes above, I read from the Telegraph today. Had you blanked out the word Everton, no way would you have believed that's who they were reporting on:
On Rodriquez: "sublimely classy performance"
The debutants in general: "remarkable debuts for Allan & Doucoure"
On Allan: "was irrepressible with his determination to win the ball back, recycle & start again" . the Brazilian Peter Reid (that's my one)!!
On Mina: "at last Yerry Mina looked like a leader in defence and was maybe trying to impress his Columbian team mate Rodriquez" . the influence of having better players surround you.
On Everton: "they wanted it more, were better organised and more positive".
My word, if you'd have predicted those quotes last month let alone in May I'd have put you in the delusional category.
I won't go over old ground too much, but it's how you spend, not what you spend. There is nothing wrong with buying established experience to compliment existing youth. Games are won and lost in midfield. Last year our midfield was spineless and void of creativity. The obvious problem was to replace the midfield. We've done that and whether some like it or not, the manager we have influenced those signings.
Our defence hasn't changed, but it was less exposed because the midfield protected them both in terms of defensive duties and going forward (we outnumbered the home team by 15 shots to 9). That chimes with my previous views that we can cope with this defence if we put a decent midfield in front of them. And Pickford, although still a loose cannon with his eagerness to punt like a Rugby Union player, was much improved (credit where due).
I'm rubbish on observing or commenting on Everton during or just after the match as I get too emotionally involved so it clouds my view. But what I do know is that yesterday I saw a team play with confidence, aggression and lack of fear. I go back to my earlier point, I won't get carried away on the basis of one result and appreciate there may be many ups and downs yet to come in a typically Everton way. However, that was the best start to a season I can remember for a long time and gives you hope. The type of hope that I appreciate kills us!!
Final point. I was amused by a comment by someone on a broader, non-Evertonian forum regarding James Rodriguez. He said he'll wait to see if he can do it in the winter. Clearly the guy has never experienced Munich or wider parts of Germany in winter like James did for 2 seasons! What is our obsession with thinking players can't play in cold weather when they clearly have anyway? Do some people think the UK is the only country that has winters??
123 Posted 14/09/2020 at 22:29:45
Furthermore, I have watched every game up to now, and appreciate that the 2 Mans, U and City haven't played yet, but I haven't seen any early signs, of any team, who is capable of destroying us.
I am not getting carried away either on the back of a good performance, but do realistically think we could do well this season. The Transfer Window hasn't closed yet, and I believe there will be a few outgoings and another couple at least, coming the other way!
124 Posted 14/09/2020 at 22:46:02
Were the debuts of Allan and James the best since then? (Cottees was pretty good. Keeleys was not).
125 Posted 14/09/2020 at 22:53:05
I think it's just been so long that we've seen players of this genuine quality in blues shirts. When Cottee made his debut, we had been champions a year earlier, so we expected that. Unfortunately generations have been denied seeing Everton with the level of player we have just purchased.
Again, not got getting carried away, but just feel that we can now at least compete. Even if we don't win, we will compete and that is all Evertonians ever ask for.
126 Posted 14/09/2020 at 23:03:09
Funny thing about Cottees debut was all the hype about Brazilian Mirandinha making his debut for Newcastle who we thrashed that day. Years later similar hype about Shearers opening day Newcastle debut v Everton and once again we pooped all over their party.
127 Posted 14/09/2020 at 23:05:21
I was duly entertained as were the staff and clientele by the gringo's in-game reactions. They were all on board once I explained Richarlison and Allan were playing for us.
I wanted to address you because of a post you jokingly made yesterday adding to quoted stats about Allan's performance: the number of times he got his arse 'twixt opposition player and ball.
Well spotted! The previous week in answer to some surprisingly ill-informed comments about Allan's game, this is an attribute I flagged up: his unique way of getting his knee, thigh or arse between the player and the ball so the only way to win it back from him is to foul him.
Get used to it. He is going to be the glue that holds us together this year, I'm confident.
128 Posted 14/09/2020 at 23:27:08
129 Posted 14/09/2020 at 23:30:28
The Guardian article was a joy to read except for one point, that was its mention of Steven Naismith in a detrimental way.
Naismith gave his all for Everton and was a better player than many gave him credit for. In fact superior to many high earners still on the books.
I can only assume that the writer was exercising artistic license and not factual observation. He did Naismith a grossly unfair disservice.
130 Posted 14/09/2020 at 23:49:18
To add insult to injury, the author had to the temerity to give criticism of Naismith for playing out of position in right-midfield as well, on top of the fact that he was a good striker, had a decent record in a declining Everton team, and is an all-round good human.
131 Posted 15/09/2020 at 00:20:44
132 Posted 15/09/2020 at 00:27:10
Firstly how in the hell are you? I hope well!
That Josh has some dedication, calling overseas from Toronto to London to discuss the Blues. Had no idea the kid is a regular. Ive not listened to a 606 podcast in ages because they never, ever talk about anything Blue. With this last game I just knew theyd talk about us, as the improvement was immense, then adding in the James factor they were bound to talk about us.
And having just mentioned Toronto, Sir John Pierce @whateverthefuck regarding hockey and Andy Greens penalty shot - solid. Green scores, we riot. “Slot like Crosby” I about fell out of my chair.
James Flynn and Mike Gaynes - Hilarious post by McNown. Whom, Mike, I adored. Best QB the Bears have ever had! Says the Packers fan.
133 Posted 15/09/2020 at 01:39:24
I think criticism of our managers clearly upset you. That is not my intention.
I confess to getting irritated by comments like "We are lucky to have him". I always imagine the person saying it is rolling his hands doing a very humble impression of Uriah Heap.
Just as criticism upsets you, all this undying gratitude shown towards people who have come to our club pisses me off. Big time. We are a massive club. We may have been run by a charlatan for the past few decades, but we are a still one of the oldest and finest institutions in world football.
We were here 100 years before the current staff and we will be here 100 years after they have gone. As a club, we have offered every foreigner on the books a better deal than anybody else was prepared to offer them. That's a fact. They are the lucky ones. They earn a fortune to play for Everton FC.
To answer your question: none of the players surprised me yesterday with their performances. None of the newcomers anyway. They all did pretty much what it says on their tin. What I have loved, has been their attitude. No strutting from them (at least none of the wrong kind) and they haven't just fed us the usual soundbites. They have already shown us they want to play for this club.
Carlo? I was sceptical about him before he even got here. Still am, if I'm honest. I hated the way he approached the second half of last season. Yeah, I've heard all the excuses, but he was getting paid £5.5M for performances you or I could have gotten out of these players.
Last season is last season. We have to look forward. Carlo is the man entrusted to realise the dreams of the faithful.
I saw a different man yesterday from the Frankie Howard look-a-like who stood dead-faced as we stunk the gaff out last season. When Carlo stepped out yesterday he immediately spotted Jose, he gave him a very warm smile and hug. The sort of smile and hug Alex Ferguson used to give opponent managers as they stood like lambs to the slaughter. I immediately logged onto Bet365 and put 20 quid on us. Ridiculous as it sounds. I just knew we would win.
His ability has never been in question. There is some evidence to suggest his tactics are outdated, but some of the stuff he said yesterday reaffirmed my belief that football is a simple game and too much emphasis is put on tactics. He sounded like – Dare I say it? – Bob Paisley.
Do I still question his motives and commitment? Yeah, I do. Sorry that isn't the answer you were looking for, but most of his work since he got here has appeared (to me at least) just plain lazy.
I don't criticise anybody at Everton on match days, not ever, but if we see more of the stuff we were forced to endure last season, I guarantee you I will be screaming the house down. On the other hand, if we witness more performances like yesterday. I will be front and center handing out the plaudits.
I only love Everton unconditionally. Managers have to win stuff or at least make me proud of the team before I feel any semblance of gratitude towards them.
What I will say is: I can't wait for the next game. It's been a while since I said that.
134 Posted 15/09/2020 at 01:45:04
Id second that. Naismith was a good time player not a great one but a good one. Heart of gold on and off the pitch and he took Chelsea to task.
135 Posted 15/09/2020 at 02:05:43
Im not a fan of indirect kicks or non-penalty kicks for anything thats otherwise a direct kick in the box, but maybe thats the traditionalist in me. Im more open to the idea of making the player fouled take the PK, but the reality is that penalties on the outskirts of the box or going away from goal are just part of the game, and over the course of the season, they shouldnt matter much. Thats different from just making bad calls like the one last season against Brighton where Keane stepped on Connolys foot accidentally, which they belatedly admitted was a mistake.
One last thing Id add is that Richarlison has greatly reduced his theatrics over the last few months, because he wasnt getting calls when rolling around all the time when he first came to the league. I love the guy for his heart and skill, but its much more enjoyable to watch him now, and Id bet theres no way he gets that call that led to the goal yesterday if he was still acting like he did last year (didnt look like much of a foul, but we never got a clear look). Thats not a defense of referees allowing him to get destroyed at times, but clearly hes gotten the message to tone down his antics — and were all better off for it now.
136 Posted 15/09/2020 at 03:09:04
I was also gratified to see more than a few posters on Spurs message boards saying "Why are Everton signing Allan while we settle for Højbjerg?" There just doesn't seem to be a lot of unity or team spirit there at the moment.
None of which detracts from the quality of the performance or the satisfaction of the victory, of course, which were both tremendous.
137 Posted 15/09/2020 at 03:37:27
Paul #112, nice to see you check in, hope you and The City of The Big Shoulders are both hanging in there.
138 Posted 15/09/2020 at 04:42:59
139 Posted 15/09/2020 at 08:20:22
The most enjoyable thing about watching Everton for me on Sunday, is how well the game flowed, that was the biggest difference, its been a very long time since Everton played flowing football.
Darren H, love that post mate, its people like you that make those horrible fuckers across the park hate us so much. Won nothing for 25 years, but you havent gone away, your still here believing Everton are the greatest club in the land; Brilliant mate - we shall not be moved!
140 Posted 15/09/2020 at 08:27:31
I saw the hug and look - 'It's my team now, I've come to do you' and took 6.2 off some poor sap on Betfair.
141 Posted 15/09/2020 at 09:22:59
142 Posted 15/09/2020 at 13:33:05
When I was 16 we moved to Wisconsin. It took two years until I was 18, but living in Wisconsin I absolutely fell in love with the Packers.
The only divorce Ive ever been through in my entire life - my divorce with the New England Patriots - was amicable. I still “root” for them as a second team. I was young when it happened. ;0). But the Pack are #1, have been for over 30 years, and will be until I die.
Go Pack Go.
143 Posted 15/09/2020 at 14:50:27
144 Posted 15/09/2020 at 15:19:57
We may have been lucky in the timing of him being free and we being in need but that is all.
On the subject of diving, I watched Fulham attackers fooling the ref on a couple of occasions, which in my opinion should be reviewed after a game. Clearly attempts were made to deceive the ref. They luckily did not benefit but on another day?
145 Posted 15/09/2020 at 16:02:17
I am sure most posters often wonder why New England and Packer fans etc etc sometimes show their allegiance to certain NFL teams. Sometimes it is a bit too much. I do appreciate having Everton fans from far off lands but it MUST be Everton first and ALL other sports a distant second.
I don't like to mix sports with politics but those fans in the US must surely have enough to worry about with that Lunatic who is ruining everything in their country, including sport. I hope Trump is a Liverpool supporter so I can dislike him even more than I already do. I live too close to the Border to ever feel completely safe from his madness. COMMENTS ???
146 Posted 15/09/2020 at 16:07:06
We were a middle to low ranking UK Premiership team on the way to long term oblivion and not massive by any current measure. That is apart from our actually very chequered history which is modest compared to that of United and Liverpool. I believe that the opinion that we have been lucky to get the board and manager that we have now is by any definition correct. Lucky is the correct word as we were the one from thousands of clubs in the world that actually got this investment. There was nothing inherent about the club that should have attracted the money that was eventually brought in unless you believe that trading as insolvent and having zero potential are great characteristics to attract investors and a top manager?
147 Posted 15/09/2020 at 16:11:40
I watched Steven Gerrard, getting interviewed by Gary Neville, whilst showing loads of past clips the Liverpool player had been involved in against United. It was a very good show and they showed Gerard, winning a penalty once at Old Trafford.
I knew I was getting a pen three seconds before everyone else said Gerrard, and he talked about being deceptively quick. It was a pen, he got there before Evra, who slid in and tripped him up, just like Fabinho got there first on Saturday, with only one thing on his mind, and when the Leeds player never tripped him it didnt matter, because he was clever enough to still make it happen?
Im like a scratched record I know, and I also know loads dont agree with me, but there is a difference, and I dont think big games of football, should be decided on such contentious decisions, or maybe Im wrong and weve just got the game that the masses want.
John@145, Ive heard Trump supports CSKA MOSCOW!
148 Posted 15/09/2020 at 16:55:46
And the Wisconsin State Fair topped the lot. Insane!
149 Posted 15/09/2020 at 17:12:32
Putin has been known to complain that his hometown club has too many foreigners, and of course Bleach Boy feels the same about America.
150 Posted 15/09/2020 at 17:20:32
“Im scared for this country. Weve got two of the most dangerous leaders in the world causing havoc. Johnson and Trump are loose cannons. In the past we used to think the loose cannons belonged to North Korea or fellas like Saddam Hussein. You dont expect loose cannons to take over your own country.”
I had never heard this story about after the '95 Cup final:
'He was halfway home when he saw that a car, carrying United supporters, had broken down. Southall pulled over, told them to jump in and then drove to the closest garage. Were the United fans shocked to be rescued by the man who had cost them the FA Cup? “I dont think they even knew who I was. We didnt have much of a conversation. It was just: ‘Where do you wanna go? OK. Ill drop you off there. See ya later. That was it. They probably wouldnt expect a player from the opposition to stop, would they?”'
151 Posted 15/09/2020 at 17:45:03
With that in mind I think his tactics were two fold.
One was to get the team playing his way, irrespective of results, in preparation for the new arrivals and knowing full well that there would be no pre-season.
Two was to show those in charge once and for all that our midfield was the problem.
I reckon this plan worked a treat and the evidence was clear to see on Sunday.
152 Posted 15/09/2020 at 19:27:52
I agree with those who pointed out Spurs did not play to their ability and may be set for a further poor run of form. I would add that there is quite probably something badly wrong there. The way the Spurs players gave up on Pochettino and the speed at which they did it very alarming considering he had literally just guided them to a champions league final. Whatever happened, it was not addressed and the not so special one anymore would appear to be an unlikely candidate to fix things on the fly as well.
The real test is putting these sorts of performances
together on a consistent basis though. It's a nice problem to be pondering.
153 Posted 16/09/2020 at 11:00:00
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