Premier League — Matchweek 32, and FA Cup Semi-Finals

Rob, I agree. But seriously these vile Sky Clubs ruin everything. Just wish the media would call it out, but no chance.

Joe? Rob isn't there. Anyway, that Man City - Real Madrid matchup gives us two instead of just meeting once in the final. Looking forward to that tie for sure.

Good stuff from the Arsenal fans interviewed pregame. The old man I used to work with was insufferable but these came across humble and appreciating Mikel's progress.

Perhaps the old man has lived here too long and was exhibiting Yank fan behavior.

Calling all pessimists — Arsenal 0-1 Saints

Southampton lead after 28 seconds.

Mind you, it was one hell of a massive cock-up by Ramsdale, passing the ball straight to a Southampton player on the edge of the box.

Aaaaaaand that's why our goalie is England's Number One!

UTFT.

That's the sort of luck that Everton very rarely get.

Jeez…….2-0.

Struth. 0-2

Well, at this point, we are lucky Zinchenko is in the team. 75 minutes left… C'mon!

Saints have never won a Premier League match away to Arsenal.

How on earth…?

Excellent goal from Southampton.

Jesus Christ.

What the fuck are Arsenal doing!?

And an ex-Everton man Walcott scores.

Absolutely dreadful this. Goalkeeping and defending.

0-2, fuck!

Alright then

Well, Saints got me 24 quid! £2 at 11/1 bet 365 pay out if the team goes 2 goals clear!

1 Back 1---2

Switched on Sky to watch all the goals going in from Arsenal. They've just got one back. I was beginning to think that no football cause is ever lost until I make it my own.

2-1. Each team has had a team meeting after conceding………..weird!

That's more like it. Put them to the sword!

Fucking joke.

How poxy this lot and Bournemouth have been. Two-fucking-nil up at The Emirates.

Fuck off!

Saints are starting to lose their defensive shape.

Shocking goalkeeping again from Ramsdale for Arsenal.

Pete #17,

I also had a bet on Bet 365, ٥.50 on a Southampton win at 16/1, which has already paid out 𧴷.50, so a 𧴰.00 Profit! I also had a fiver on the draw @11/2, come on the Arse!!!

Red card coming for Southampton at some point.

Bednarak is out.

Graham #27,

I've got a quid on a draw as well which will get me another 7 quid! 🤣

The crowd is not helping but I think a chat with Mikel and possibly an early Trossard appearance will do.

Glad we don't have to play Saints in the run-in.

One thing for sure, Pickford will be England No 1 for some time.

Many calls for both Pope and Ramsdale in the media, but both have shown recently, with far superior teams in front of them, to be behind Pickford. In terms of play on the ball, decision making, shot stopping, and responding to pressure.

If Pickford remains at Everton, no matter our end-of-season position, I'll be stunned.

Fran, I think Pickford is underrated by some fans at Everton more than he is anywhere else.

Saints took off Alcaraz who was their best player

Pete #29, I sincerely hope you pick up that extra seven quid, Arsenal really need to get their finger out on this one, a Southampton win would be a truly disastrous result for us.

Here we go Trossard

Bugger

Unbelievable.

1----3 another Ward Prowse free kick headed in

Jesus

Devastating. Zinchenko watching there. 30 minutes left and they look like they are rolling over.

Nothing less than 3 points tomorrow are gonna suffice.

The weeks where we can keep saying a draw is okay, they are passing by.

We need wins now.

Arsenal are blowing it.

Jesus, how did he miss that ? Maupay would have buried that one .

Bad miss by Chris Rock there.

We've had it this season. People telling me today at work that Southampton are awful. They beat us.

When did we last go 3-1 up away anywhere let alone against a so-called top team?

That 3rd goal was partly the keeper's fault. He loses concentration as the corner's taken and is then out of position.

Good point, Craig.

Southampton won at our place, won at Chelsea, drew at Old Trafford and now 3-1 up at Arsenal, it's stuff we could only dream of.

As I say, we can't keep saying draws are good enough.

Tomorrow, we need to stop pissing around with this away form, which is horrendous, and get that game won.

There is no composure or leadership in the Arsenal team at the moment. Everything is being rushed, nobody putting their foot on the ball.

What sort of team talk did the manager give them at half-time, nothing has changed since the first half and they are being battled out of this game, like in the previous two games.

Southampton showing what you can do when you sign a decent forward during the transfer window.

Y'see this is it. No one expects Southampton to win at Arsenal and they dig a result out.

Tomorrow, you can bet your pension that we won't surprise anyone.

Watching this game… for all the star players they are supposed to have, Arsenal are struggling to break Southampton down.

Southampton now only ONE POINT behind.

I hate football.

All the teams down the bottom are getting unexpected results. Except us, Leicester, and Forest.

In the second half against West Ham, Arsenal were as bad as we were in the second half against Fulham.
Arteta is a flat track bully, an appalling specimen. I hope City win the league. Arsenal, their entitled fans and their coach are odious.
To add insult to injury, as a follicly challenged, oul fella, the c**t's hair angers me.

Bill, they've been playing more Bobby Martinez style tonight than Pep football. Plenty of possession but not adding up to much. Credit to Southampton though, they are fighting for it big time, Ward-Prowse has been excellent in central midfield.

Never really believed in the "bottling it" theory but Arsenal are making me doubt...BUT

2---3

Well well. arse 2-3 saints. Odegaard from the edge of the box

Need about 8 minutes now et.

oh yes. now a fourth

Yaaaaaaaaaa!

That's Southampton down.

3---3

Wild.

8 minutes! Come on Arsenal!

It's all kicking off now …..3-3, Southampton collapsing.

Knell! Off the bar!

Magic injuries.

Jesus abd Martinelli were the problem

Arse drops deuce at Emirates

That was exhausting. Great game and at least they nicked a draw

The Prem is fucking brilliant we have to stay up

1 pt for Southampton better for us than 3 pts

Dale, Martinelli absolutely stunk. Apart from his goal, he did nothing.

We need to show the same fight - and soon

Well fuck me, that was a close shave.

Ward-Prowse will be snapped up by someone at the end of the season as will Pickford from our miserable lot.

Still, a good performance by Saints after being gifted a one goal start.

Rob...what wouldn't we give for a goal from someone who did nowt ? Let's face it we've enough who fit the bill

It's simple, Everton have to win at Palace, but they have scored 9 goals in 3 games since Roy arrived winning all 3. Can't say I'm full of confidence here.

God did we need that from the Arse!

If Arsenal get a positive result at the Etihad in Midweek, tonight's draw might prove to be the clinching factor in them becoming champions, however, for a team looking to win the title, the defence is pretty porous and they won't always score two and three times in a game. Saints will be proud of their performance but will also be gutted that they had three points in their grasp and only came away with one.

Great point for Saints ? or a crushing what might have been 3 points? Time will tell.
They played well, and far from being 2 from 3, Southampton have proved tonight it's still 3 from 6,
42 points for Everton you're having a laugh,
get real, we will be lucky to get 35.

Phew, that was close. At least some of the teams at the bottom are showing fight and courage. Can we match them? That will be answered tomorrow.

We should take inspiration from Southampton's performance and apply the same endeavor tomorrow against a refreshed Palace side.

Jay87
, haha, like that will happen? These twats won't have even watched tonight,
half of the team tomorrow won't care if saints lost, drew or won tonight,
they don't care.

Leeds wearing their urine inspired kit. I'm somewhat indifferent to the others that may go down but I've developed a hatred for Leeds Cmon Marco damage them.

Leeds look like they are playing for a point. I don't think that is in their football DNA. No press early on.

Fulham not looking as good as they did against us. Come on you fuckers, get at them!

I know we are absolute shite…but I do feel teams generally play above themselves against us. Fulham are fucking average and playing like it today.

Is it that teams play above themselves against us or is it that we are so weak we make every other team look better than they are?

Fulham's race is run this season. Leeds will fancy this the longer it stays 0-0 and will probably nick one.

Fulham have scored

Yay.

Good finish

that keeper for Leeds is an absolute shambles

Phil, that seems true to me. Another sign we are a big club maybe?

Could have crawled that one in. 2-0

Dodgy keeper. We are level with Leeds on GD as it stands. EDIT Spoke too soon !

Leeds get a goal back!don't you dare Fulham!

Decent save.

Fulham should be out of sight here.

This is another of those well known occasions when we are offered a chance by either a game in hand or other results.

We know that road.

Fulham got home but made it hard work watching, why didn't the
Fulham ‘keeper use his mouth and shout for his defenders to leave the ball to him, three bleedin' times in those last few minutes the ball was his if he had only used his gob!!

Will (105), We might use a street today.

Dave :-)

I hope we use everything we have.

ITV 'experts' on the Sheffield Utd defender adjudged to have committed a foul:

"[His boot] might have brushed the ball but he did enough to give away the penalty."

I don't understand the rules that supposedly govern this game any more... Once upon a time, if you make a tackle and get your foot on the ball, causing it to deviate away from your opponent, before you make physical contact with an opponent, then it was not a foul.

Not clear and obvious? It bloody was to me.

69,000 and visibly empty seats.

I don't think you'd get that if Everton featured.

On a serious note, time to consider going back to more traditional and neutral venues for semi finals?

69,000 and visibly empty seats.

I don't think you'd get that if Everton featured.

On a serious note, time to consider going back to more traditional and neutral venues for semi finals?

Danny @111
I've never been a fan of holding semi-finals at Wembley, it somehow takes away the mystique of getting there for a final and the games at Highbury, Villa Park et al were fraught with tension and joy if your team managed to get through to the final.

Yes that was 20 years ago, but Wembley needs paying for, so who's going to pay for it?

The fucking fans from far and wide, that's who.

Anyway, who gives a flying fuck about how many empty seats were at Wembley today?

Everton drew in another must-win game

I don't give a shit about Wembley's empty seats.

Jeff #113,

Bang on the money again, who gives a flying fuck about Wembley and the empty seats at that stadium, certainly not me!

I am still pissed off with Dyche for not hooking Holgate, that is what matters and what matters to me. Had we lost today, I would have been even more angry!

Danny,

We weren't good enough to get to a semi-final, Sheffield Utd were, so it's irrelevant if we would've filled the ground or not.

Graham, I've said on another thread it's painful having to watch Dyche today go through what all of us have been through with Holgate over the last 5 years.

But if he was a decent professional manager he wouldn't have picked Holgate today, look at the ToffeeWeb matchday thread before the game even kicks off, a fucking blind blue on a galloping horse would not have picked Mason Holgate today, except the most important blue on the planet did just that.

I like Dyche but today he did himself no favours.

Great point Deborah 115

We are in a relegation fight.

Can't understand the angst and anger aimed at fellow TW's who only made an observation about something that was relevant on this particular thread, of course all Evertonians are pissed about our position but that doesn't mean we can't talk about the wider game on a thread like this one. There are plenty of other threads to address today's result and its ramifications.

We all know we are in a relation fight.

Many of us where at Selhurst Park yesterday fighting through to the end.

In line with the aim thread, which gives an opportunity to comment on broader football topics of the respective weekend, I made a non Everton related observation. I'll keep Everton stuff to the Everton threats.

On that note, I found it strange that the Southampton supporters thought they were Manchester City with that Poznan impression.

The FA Vase Cup offers us our most realistic chance of ever getting to another cup final under the present setup.

I see the BBC are gushing over Wrexham and marvelling at the passion of the pitch invasion yesterday.

In comparison to the vindication we received and even calls for a points deduction last season.

Congratulations to Wrexham, by the way.

You mean Vilification I think Danny?
‘‘Twas ever thus mate.

Well it wasn't Villa-fication.

Newcastle 1-0 Spurs if uou care.
Come on hate some Spurs it'll make you feel beter.

2-0

well I guess Newcastle have players who can score

3-0 Newcastle, fuck me these are gonna waste us on Thursday.

West ham 1 up Newcastle 3 up

Spursy.

3 -0 barcodes 9ms..god help us

Hopefully they'll feel their work is done come Thursday Jim - clutching at straws a bit

Sometimes a ridiculous win is followed by a ridiculous loss, hope that will be the case on Thursday

Eddie Howe has been manager of the year for me.

He hasn't got any standout players like Salah, Haaland etc etc but he's transformed that club.

West Ham 2 up

Good call Jin maybe Emery gets a look for his short season

I see the psychics are out early!

Jim sorry. Cant edit that one

I turn on a few minutes late and the buggers are up 3-0 already!

What the fuck!

West Ham were never going down, Bill, I had that argument last week before they drew with Arsenal.

It's out of us, Leeds and Leicester now, in my opinion, that will likely join Forest (I think they'll go) and Saints.

Not so fast. Bournemouth have made some comebacks. It is on the South Coast. 70 minutes to go…

4! How the hell is our slow, over-the-hill backline going to stop Isak and Co at Goodison Park!?

5 as I type!!!!

Spurs fans are leaving already, lol.

4-0

Spurs are embarrassing here…

I think Newcastle are going to win this game.

It's 4-0 with only 20 minutes gone...

5

If only Comte was there, we could have seen a real meltdown.

Mmmme.....Comte!

5---0 and Tottenham have just not even got off the bus never mind turning up

Anyone still think we're getting anything off these on Thursday?

Come on, Bill… Keep up!

Who still thinks we're getting a result on Thursday?

Maybe the Barcodes will have got it out of their system in time for us???

Grant, I do! It will be a case of after the Lord Mayor's Show for them.

Newcastle have scored more in 20 mins that we have in 20 matches:)

Tottenham, big club, Rob?

YES! Guimares is fooked!

Chris, me too for the same reason and because Spurs are shite

Am I right in thinking the neighbours had a huge victory over Man Utd and then lost their next match at lowly Bournemouth?

Football is a crazy game and not some computer-generated game of logic.

It is puzzling that the soothsayers never seem to have noticed (a) every match in the Premier League is unique. And (2) you might predict what is going to happen... but getting it right is a complete fluke.

Indeed, Danny! Makes you laugh doesn't it. And to think they were invited to join the European Super League.

Those with these psychic powers……….how do you do it? I would love to know cos then I would be a super dooper millionaire, winning the lottery every week.

In the light of today's events, I will settle for a point on Thursday.

Rob, the Super League needed their whipping boys

Every team in London is a big club.

Maybe, Michael, but the law of averages show that the good sides beat the poor sides more often than not, hence league positions.

We have to play compact and not leave spaces on Thursday. Classic Moyes KITAP1 tactics are called for.

We are also due a stroke of luck, ie, someone actually getting sent off against us when it's still level or getting a penalty when it's 0-0.

Sure feel sorry for whoever has to play Newcastle next!!…. oh.

Come on, Spurs, kick the fuck out of these!

Spurs are going to get one or two sent off here.

Damnit, Soren, I'm over there dealing with Ian and you're spell-checking my Spurs comment? Appalling.

What happened to Guimares btw?

I think there's a few on there who would like the early bath, bottlers!

Newcastle can rest their key players at half-time…

Bournemouth are safe imo.

They need one more win which they'll get and it'll be the worst of the rest.

West Ham Utd are 3-up.

3-0 West Ham now..

Once Kane leaves in the summer, Spurs will be a mid-table club.

One-man team.

Someone was trying to convince me no new stadium build curse exists. They cited Tottenham.

Just as well nothing disastrous happened as the BMD structure was completed. Oh hang on, is that us slipping into the Bottom 3?

#CartBeforeTheHorseSyndrome

I think Conte has just thrown the biggest ever spanner into the workings of Tottenham Hotspur, simply by telling the truth.

Well, I believe the loss to Fulham is now showing the precarious position we are in, and hope is starting to turn into reality.

Lloris off at half-time… back injury from picking the ball out the net!

Ha Barry, exactly our stadium curse is happening in an old 130-year-old relic.

I'm thinking today is showing we should have won against Spurs.

There you go. Newcastle are so vulnerable. Kane goal.

If I may clap up some happy crap, I think this might play into Doucouré's return nicely.

We may not survive the inevitable counter-attacks but I bet we start with intensity v Newcastle Utd.

Unfortunately, Brent, we don't have Harry Kane up front… ;)

Wilson makes it 6.

He's bound to score at some point against us. He has a decent record against us.

Gordon on to save it for Newcastle…

Anthony, fortunately we won't have Holgate in defence.

Bournemouth getting thrashed at home.

I'm praying we're still in it by the last game.

Richarlison is getting readied to save Tottenham… lol.

He's fallen behind Danjuma even!! I hope he enjoyed that brief Champions League spell while it lasted.

Those two substitutions show how poor Everton really are.

Both players, Richarlison and Gordon, in the current Everton squad would give us a little more hope we could escape the drop but both are currently little more than bit-part players at their new clubs.

Of course, both may go on to have wonderful careers, but I wish we had players of their type in our squad today, especially in the case of Richarlison.

Guys, am I correct that Everton have not scored 5 goals in a Match since Marco Silva won 1-5 at Burnley (Dyche was their manager)?

Or even 4 Since Silva won 4 0 at home to Man Utd? If that's the case, then surely we should have stuck with Marco Silva!?!

A Spurs fan just described the signing of Richarlison as a 'reject from another club for £1m'.

Joe @151,

Carlo's Everton put five past West Brom at Goodison in September 2020 and four past Brighton a few weeks later, his side also beat Spurs 5-4 in the FA Cup in 2021.

Although it is true to say we have had many many games where we haven't scored or have only scored the one since those times.

Great result for Newcastle but a lap of honour?

Joe,

Everton don't do away wins – let alone by 5 goals.

Any permutation for relegation: 3 from the present Bottom 5.
Draws are a waste of time.
.
I was going to say we need to beat Newcastle but, after watching them today, I just hope our goal difference doesn't reach craziness!

Nothing quite like Spurs ruining decent players. Second only to the Red Shite in loathsomeness, although at least Liverpool win stuff (mostly by flukes and penalties).

Plus Bournemouth's luck ran out today.

Today's win for Newcastle means no more for us than their thumping by Aston Villa. If our players turn up as they did at home against Arsenal, we will beat them. They shall and we will.

I hope the Blues predicting a thrashing by them does not reflect the spirit we expect from our team.

Watching Brighton in the semi-final tells me how much we have fallen behind. They are the better team so far but have missed their chances. Good passing with flair and creativity.

Yesterday, we had one corner and two shots on target.

Clive, we had 10 shots with 5 on target yesterday.

You are correct with your corner count though.

Shots on target:

Brighton 1
Man Utd 1

Riveting stuff!!

I stand corrected, Jeff, but it was so awful, I lost concentration at times.

Seven years ago today it was us not Brighton who played Man Utd in a cup semi-final. I know we were poor that day but at least we got there.

Now Brighton are on the up and we're slipping out of the Premier League…

I've not been watching, Rob. Had a feeling/lucky guess it would be a bit drab.

Will probably go on fire now I've said that.

Jarrad Branthwaite played another 90 minutes for PSV today, keeping a clean sheet against 3rd-placed Ajax. Game finished 3-0, looks like he is helping them to a 2nd-place finish in the Dutch league.

C'mon, Brighton! Could make our game versus them easier if they are in the Final.

As for Newcastle on Thursday, we must win, no excuses. Have to avoid defeat at Leicester too. 4 or 5 ponts from next 3 or bye bye Everton.

Thanks, Kenwright.

Flashing up on the electronic advertising boards, that Wembley stadium is 100 years old. Even though it's a brand new stadium, it's still on the same site, so I guess it's still Wembley.

Bit like Triggers broom in Only Fools and Horses… it's had 25 new broom heads and 15 new broom handles, but it's still the same broom! Sure some on here will know what I mean.

I get you Rob. Luvly jubbly.

History matters only when it suits. Didn't matter much when it came to saving and incorporating parts or all of the original towers, or anything else. Too costly apparently, but over 10% of the budget on "Legal fees" – no worries.

A new stadium has "history"... meanwhile, let's pull down statues and change real history.

Energy levels and desire of Newcastle's players was superb. Eddie Howe has transformed the team they have a real attack-minded mindset.

Massive week: we need Brighton and Leicester to win and we need to get at least a point.

This extra time could really sap the energy out of Brighton. They play Forest away on Wednesday night and we need them to be at their fittest.

A defeat here could really demoralise them, whereas a win will give them renewed energy for Wednesday.

Actually although I feel really sorry for Brighton I'm made up United will play City
It'll be great seeing United getting hammered, embarrassed and Neville, Keane etc slagging them off

Rob, Agree pity we don't play Brighton this week also just saw that Soton will be playing at home to Bournemouth so will fancy their chances of getting 3 points.
Hope DCL, Coleman, Doucoure and Onana can help us to a 1-0 win.

Sad for Brighton, got a feeling they'll be shot on Wednesday night now and frankly who can really blame them.

They put everything out there tonight in terms of work ethic.

I feel for Brighton, and living where I do I have lots of mates at that game today, but we can beat them! I hope Dyche was noting their risky and slow playing out from the back with the two centre half's passing to each other at walking pace.

John @ 212; Yep, City should win on form as United are fighting out of their weight division - just like Wigan were, it may not be the 'proper' Wembley, but it's still the the Cup - so who knows.

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