Well, I wasn't sure if this would warrant a separate thread, but it could get interesting.

Caveat: the world according to Danny.

Do:s

1. There She Goes, the La's. Genius by the club. Hearing it before Southampton and then ringing out across the Newcastle skyline was great. Those attending the Bradley Moore gathering may have to perform a deeper baritone version.

2. Spirit Of The Blues. Another great throwback to the '80s.

3. Forever Everton. The first Everton commercial release I remember.

4. We Shall Not Be Moved. One for the cup runs.

5. Marching Down The Goodison Road. Sorry Mark!!


Do not's  (or at least think about it!):

1. If Ya Know Yer 'Istory. For me, time to retire her.

2. Here We Go. Belongs on the concourses.

3. Z-Cars. I know what this means to many, so I won't touch the scred cow… leave her be.


Individual players:

Some great ones have emerged: Illiman Ndiaye, Pickford, even Beto in its simplicity. Keep them coming!!!

Above all, let's be Everton, let's be unique.

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Dennis Stevens
1 Posted 10/09/2025 at 11:52:44
Forever Everton - written by a Manc, great song though. I saw Graham Gouldman a little while back - he didn't play the song, went with all those well known chart hits he wrote instead!

All Together Now never gets an airing, maybe because Ingerlund subsequently did a version of it.

Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
2 Posted 10/09/2025 at 12:23:23
Here we go. 1985 Cup Final. Wogan Show. Grahame Sharp singing in the communal bath after a match when I am convinced he was less than 50% sober.
Ditch

Z Cars. Never - but get rid of the siren.

Ray Roche
3 Posted 10/09/2025 at 12:40:54
Keep the siren!
Raymond Fox
4 Posted 10/09/2025 at 12:53:30
Definitely keep the siren only louder, not very keen on the tune though.
I dislike the 'we shall not be moved' its got hairs on it now.

Keep 2 & 3 of your do's Danny.

Christine Foster
5 Posted 10/09/2025 at 13:41:44
Nice to see you back Danny, I think Z Cars is Gere to stay and you know what? Keep the siren because of exactly where it is. Bramley Moore Dock, the Mersey waterfront, yes, the May blitz. It belongs exactly where it is. Fitting and defiant, a call to arms.
Ditch if you know your history, and Here we go.. keep the rest!
John Chambers
6 Posted 10/09/2025 at 13:55:19
I think we should get rid of the siren. I always thought it was a bit crass but given the current actions of Russia, especially as we have a Ukrainian in our team, it feels totally inappropriate to me
Don Wright
7 Posted 10/09/2025 at 14:02:44
I remember actually watching Z-Cars so it stays, Marching Down The Goodison Road, really that is a song for the women's team now as Bramley-Moore Dock is nowhere near Goodison Road.

The words to Spirit Of The Blues need to be changed at the Brighton game I was actually cringing when 'get down to Goodison Park ooohh. was sung. If Ya Know Yer 'Istory is just that history time to move on.

Trevor Powell
8 Posted 10/09/2025 at 14:22:17
WE HATE BILL SHANKLY AND WE HATE ST.JOHN,

BUT MOST OF ALL WE HATE BIG RON!

These words reflect the sixties anti-icons from the Red Shite.

Surely, some enterprising wordsmith could come up with a new version to those two lines based on today after all we are close enough to hang the koppites one by one from the banks of the Royal Mersey @ BMD!

I will even give a £25 donation to Mister Drone's chosen EFC charity for a winning entry!

Tony Dunn
9 Posted 10/09/2025 at 14:25:00
Firstly, it's good to hear from Danny I hope everything is well with you. Secondly, made up the La 's are becoming a regular match day tune, great Evertonian and Huyton lad Lee will glad.

Matchday songs, like any kind of music, is very subjective and, as ToffeeWeb readers cover such a large spectrum of society, politics and differening opinions, I would be very surprised if there is much agreement. UTFT

Mark Murphy
10 Posted 10/09/2025 at 14:52:53
There she goes was belted out as the first in the pre kick off medley and was sung by all four sides of the ground. It was VERY powerful and emotional.

I’m not sure it will catch on for every game though. I see it as the goodbye to Goodison song and that rendition at the first game in our new ground came across to me as closure and a fitting tribute to the old Girl.

The siren followed by Z Cars was loud and inspirational. The hairs on the back of my neck stood up, as they always did at Goodison, but this time I had tears in my eyes as well. The acoustics of BMD gave it a rousing “entrance of the gladiators” vibe and we would be fools to ditch that.

Permission to proclaim a jolly loud UTFT, Major!

Christy Ring
11 Posted 10/09/2025 at 15:10:46
Nice to see you’re back Danny, I’d definitely keep Z-Cars, it’s my ringtone, and the siren would put you on the edge of your seat.
Jay Harris
12 Posted 10/09/2025 at 16:02:57
Good to see you back Danny. Dont know what was up but I hope you are good now.

Z-Cars - untouchable and my vote would be to make the siren louder. It is so unique and timeless (well sort of).

We Shall Not Be Moved - originally a gospel song to inspire civil rights but adopted as "our song" for the runs to the league and cup in a bygone era that needs to be brought back.

And the classic Spirit of the Blues needs to be our main song.

Forever Everton – a unique song for us so a keeper.

On the banks of the Royal Blue Mersey. Wouldn't change a thing.

Tony Abrahams
13 Posted 10/09/2025 at 16:12:39
A song I haven't heard for years is Tell Me Ma, Me Ma. Remember when the lyrics got changed to put the champagne on ice? Now wouldn't that be fucking nice!
David Bromwell
14 Posted 10/09/2025 at 20:50:14
One of the very nice things about this site, is when a regular contributor goes missing lots of people worry that something must be wrong.

So, Danny, it's good to have you back, 'singing'. Let's hope your article stimulates some new songs as they do add to the matchday experience and atmosphere.

Liam Mogan
15 Posted 10/09/2025 at 20:56:11
Anyone seen the clip of the cute little kid singing There She Goes at the first game?

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNdbHf3w9/

Paul Kossoff
16 Posted 10/09/2025 at 20:56:37
Where is Paul Ferry? I miss his icy blasts.
Liam Mogan
17 Posted 10/09/2025 at 20:57:51
Ferry? Cross the Mersey, isn't he?
Peter Mitchell
18 Posted 10/09/2025 at 22:06:57
I would suggest, certainly as a playlist song, "Story of the Blues" by the Mighty Wah! Agree we need some new tunes for the new stadium.
Peter Mitchell
19 Posted 10/09/2025 at 22:08:12
Would add "Blue Monday" by New Order to this as well.
Neil Copeland
20 Posted 10/09/2025 at 22:13:59
Good to see you posting Danny.

Agree with all except Z-Cars for all the reasons stated above.

Perhaps “In my life” could be rejigged a little, the line of “there are places I remember” is very fitting.

Liam Mogan
21 Posted 10/09/2025 at 22:32:23
Run to the Hill(s) - Iron Maiden
Peter Mitchell
22 Posted 10/09/2025 at 22:42:38
Running up that Hill - Kate Bush.
Michael Kenrick
23 Posted 10/09/2025 at 22:53:55
How many of us picked up that CD from 1996 — Forever Everton — with that and 19 other songs on it?

It has a couple of right weird ones from our Scandinavian brethren, I believe, but I quite like The Toffees Tale by The Strands.

I was very surprised to find this on my TIDAL Hi-Fi music streaming subscription!

Jack Convery
24 Posted 11/09/2025 at 08:14:45
Did you know Forever Everton was recorded at Strawberry Studios, Stockport. A studio started by Petter Tattersall and Eric Stewart, before 10cc was even thought of.

Graham Gouldman wrote Forever Everton and went on to write with Eric Stewart, 10cc songs, I'm not in Love, I'm Mandy Fly Me, Art for Art's Sake to name just a few of their many hits. Most, if not all 10cc members, Eric, Graham, Lol Creme and Kevin Godley play on Forever Everton.

Keep Z-Cars forever but please ditch that siren. It may be getting used for real anyway, the way things are going.

Good to hear you again Danny, you had us all worried.

Geoff Harrison
25 Posted 11/09/2025 at 08:28:04
Keep them all.

Plus the Elton John track that appeared at the end of last season!

Ray Roche
26 Posted 11/09/2025 at 08:53:38
Raymond Fox: “it's got hairs on it now.”

So's my bollocks… but I don't want to lose those either.

Dermot O'Brien
27 Posted 11/09/2025 at 09:03:33
The Benny Hill music when the referee and linesmen are introduced.
Micky Norman
28 Posted 11/09/2025 at 09:32:56
This ground is your ground
This ground is my ground
From the Crosby shoreline
To the Aintree Racecourse
From the Liver Building
And the Everton Valley
This ground was made for you and me.

A group of Street End boys started this off many moons ago but it didn't take off. Now might be an appropriate time.

Michael Kenrick
29 Posted 11/09/2025 at 09:48:07
That's good, Micky.

Maybe change Crosby shoreline to Mersey shoreline?

Brian Harrison
30 Posted 11/09/2025 at 10:04:10
I don't like the siren, as for songs well when we played our last game at Goodison my 3 favourites were " There she goes", "Thats why they call us the Blues" and "We built this city" all seem very appropriate but our DJ at Hill Dickenson has dropped the last 2..
Eddie Palin
31 Posted 11/09/2025 at 11:07:13
The Siren must stay.
Eric Myles
32 Posted 11/09/2025 at 11:21:50
Wasn't the siren a thing for Tony Bellew's introduction at his fight at Goodison and it was kept on from then?
Anthony Dove
33 Posted 11/09/2025 at 11:22:58
Love We Shall Not Be Moved and Banks Of The Royal
Blue Mersey, I admit it's an age thing.

As a point of interest, the first-ever football team song was E-V-E-R-T-O-N featuring the 1963 team with a picture of the team and their signatures on the sleeve. It's music from a bygone era but it's great.

Micky Norman
34 Posted 11/09/2025 at 12:24:09
Agreed Michael. Mersey Shoreline. I remember it from the days of Gordon Lee and scarves tied to wrists. Easy to sing as well.

Someone needs to come up with a second verse for the away following – which is where I've always thought the best songs originate.

Derek Taylor
35 Posted 11/09/2025 at 14:44:55
Should we ask GG to update 'Forever Everton' or is it best left as is ? I'm due to take in a 10cc gig erelong and happy to mention it at the 'selfie session' after.
Ted Roberts
36 Posted 11/09/2025 at 15:13:33
Glad you're back on the site, Danny, I hope all is well.

I like Z-Cars with the siren, I think it's a great wind-up mechanism to get the crowd engaged.

"There She Goes" seems to have been adopted as a favourite so let's keep that.

And finally "Spirit Of The Blues" has to be a must for me. I'm not too sure of the other regulars as I feel they are a bit dated now for the new era, but hopeful that some musical poster could enlighten us to a new medley.

John Gall
37 Posted 11/09/2025 at 17:32:17
Apart from "Kopites are gobshites!" whatever happened to personalised abusive songs addressed to specific clubs?

"Oh wanky wanky, wanky wanky wanky wanky Wanderers" - worked when playing Wolves or Bolton.

"All the grime, all the grit, all the muck and all the shit, that's what Bob Paisley's got in his team"

"Oh I do like to be beside the seaside, oh I do like to be beside the sea, oh I do like to be beside the prom prom prom where the brass band plays 'Fuck off West Brom'"

"We hate Nottingham Forest, we hate Liverpool too (they're shit)..etc etc "

Must be others I've forgotten.

Jay Harris
38 Posted 11/09/2025 at 17:50:51
I remember we used to sing all the players' names but I can't remember the song.
Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
39 Posted 11/09/2025 at 17:59:15
It was the 85 team and all I remember was "and Psycho Pat"

And the Elton John song was a 1984 release and re-worded to "And I guess that is why they call us the Blues".

Anyone remember he was in a suit with the pin-stripes going horizontal not vertical and hand in hand with his wife who was either German or Austrian. Far better looking than the blokes he hitched with later.

Dennis Stevens
40 Posted 11/09/2025 at 18:07:07
It was to the tune of "Alouette, Gentille Alouette", Jay.
Paul Griffiths
41 Posted 11/09/2025 at 18:07:41
Tony Abrahams 13: A song I haven't heard for years is Tell Me Ma, Me Ma.

There's a very good reason for that Tony.

Z-Cars is us.

Ditch that shite Elton John dirge please. It's lyrics are downright embarrassing ('Rollin' like thunder under the covers': cringe). Why that 30-odd years ago and not Story Of The Blues? What twat with a mullet made the crap choice?

How about:

Ever, ton, ton, ton,
Push pineapple shake the tree,
Ever, ton, ton, ton
Our boss new home is on the Mersey,
To the left, to the right, we are unstoppable,
Come and dance all match long in a blue melody

Jay Harris
42 Posted 11/09/2025 at 18:15:54
Well remembered Dennis.
Peter Mills
43 Posted 11/09/2025 at 18:55:30
Anthony #33:-

Oh yes, it's E-V-E-R-T and O and N,
In case you didn't catch it, friend, I'll spell it out again,
Yes, it's E-V-E-R-T and O and N,
The finest team in all the land is gallant Everton.

John#37, I was always a fan of personal songs aimed at the likes of Jack Charlton: “You dirty big giraffe”; John Fitzpatrick: “You dirty little twat”; and Mike Summerbee: “I'd walk a million miles to the end of your nose”.

Geoff Cadman
45 Posted 11/09/2025 at 19:20:21
Nice to have you back, Danny, will you be submitting a match report after the Villa game?

I would like to see Onward Evertonians revived as the lead in to We Shall Not Be Moved. The rendition of the latter at the Florentina game was probably the loudest single moment I have witnessed at Goodison.


Mark Murphy
46 Posted 11/09/2025 at 19:36:42
Jay, take no notice of young Phil, it was the “And do we love our Georgie Wood…. Etc” from the late 70’s that was the original and best..
Dave Dann
47 Posted 11/09/2025 at 19:38:43
Geoff #45.

The loudest for me was the quarterfinal in 1981 against Man City, the whole ground was bouncing.
Andy Crooks
48 Posted 11/09/2025 at 19:39:55
Derek @35, I nominate "erelong" as ToffeeWeb word of the year so far. Love it!
Dale Self
49 Posted 11/09/2025 at 19:55:43
Ah, and TW returns with a Graham Gouldman reference. Way to land that plane TW!
Geoff Cadman
50 Posted 11/09/2025 at 21:56:15
Dave 47 I wasn't there that day.
Andrew Merrick
51 Posted 11/09/2025 at 22:07:27
Paul 41, maybe Tony 13 was hinting at a cup run taking us to Wembley again, that's was what tell me ma was all about wasn't it..
Eugene Ruane
52 Posted 11/09/2025 at 22:41:23
.
Why was WSAG named WSAG?

Before Everton games years ago (deffo in the 1970s) the song 'You Are My Sunshine' was sung before most games (or if you're a Manc, "You Are My Sunshhhhheeeeeeiiiiiiine")

Eventually this song just...vanished.

Same happened with 'When You're Smiling', which was sung at every game for years, then gone.

I still remember my late pater laughing (every time) at the last surreal line added by Evertonians...

"...coz when you're smiling, the whooooole world smiles with you, without your kecks on!"

Paul Kossoff
53 Posted 11/09/2025 at 23:30:16
Oh we hate Arnie's dome
And we hate Moe too
Because we know the world's royal blue
And we'll beat the red shite by five-two
On the banks of the Royal Blue Mersey
Ian Pilkington
54 Posted 11/09/2025 at 23:45:42
Surprising what you learn on ToffeeWeb. I never knew Graham Gouldman wrote Forever Everton.

Long before 10cc, he wrote several hit singles for the great Yardbirds and also the Hollies, Wayne Fontana and Herman's Hermits.

Don't hold it against him because he's from Manchester. Still going strong as a performer, he is surely one of our most talented rock and pop composers.

ps: Keep the siren, there aren't many still around who can remember it from 1941 (my late mother living then at Orrell Park hated it ).

Z-Cars is untouchable but does anyone know why they play it at Watford?

Ernie Baywood
55 Posted 11/09/2025 at 23:53:25
Eugene - I remember You are my Sunshine still being sung in the 80s/early 90s. At least to the point where I didn't need to ask why WSAG was called WSAG when I started going to the match.

I love There She Goes being sung. A new generation of Evertonians organically adopting a song from the previous era. And it's a cool song by a cool band. And when someone asks in the future how we ended up singing it, there will be a nice nod to Goodison's farewell in the answer. It's a song that marks the end of one special thing and the start of another.

Marching down the Goodison Road likewise works as a throwback and a nod to Goodison and our history. I don't think it has to make sense in a BMD context - it already didn't really make much sense in a 21st century context.

In My Life holds a slightly different place for me. It will always be the song that went in between the two trumpet Z-Cars and broke me. For me, it's now a song that reminds me of saying goodbye to Goodison.

Or maybe I'm overthinking things and it doesn't matter that much!

Les Callan
56 Posted 12/09/2025 at 00:14:42
What happened to Bless ‘Em All?

Can't remember most of the words, but it ended …. “And most of all, bless Alan Ball.”

Les Callan
57 Posted 12/09/2025 at 00:14:49
What happened to Bless ‘em all. Can’t remember most of the words, but it ended ….” And most of all bless Alan Ball “
Brian Denton
58 Posted 12/09/2025 at 00:24:38
Les, my late elder brother taught me that one, but I never actually heard it sung by the time I started going properly in 1966. The words were to the best of my memory:

"Bless them all, bless them all/Bless the long and the short and the tall/Bless our Alex, Shirley too/Bless all the lads who are wearing the blue" and repeat.

Ernie Baywood
59 Posted 12/09/2025 at 01:26:36
On the topic of Goodison, songs, and In My Life... Mr Ryder-Jones is about to go pretty viral with a video he's posted on social media.

Don't smoke and post, kids.

Eric Myles
60 Posted 12/09/2025 at 02:52:31
Ian #54, 'cos it was their manager's favourite telly show back in the day.
James MacGlashan
61 Posted 12/09/2025 at 06:48:32
Get rid of the siren.

As I have said before, the first sound we hear for us to know the players are coming should be Z-Cars. It is Z-Cars that should get the spine chilled and the heart racing, not a siren!

Mark Murphy
62 Posted 12/09/2025 at 06:54:51
James, tbh I thought the build-up to the Brighton kick-off was inspired!

They started with There She Goes then went through sound bites of all the faves, including Forever Everton, Grand Old Team, and Spirit Of The Blues. Everybody by then was standing and singing and waving the little free flags. The siren pumped it up and Z-Cars then increased in volume in 3 stages until it became a crescendo.

Absolutely hair-raising! The Brighton fans appeared stunned!

Anthony Dove
63 Posted 12/09/2025 at 08:32:58
We hate St Virgil and we hate Arn Slot
but most of all we hate Jurgen Klopp
and we’ll hang the Kopites till they drop
on the banks of the Royal Blue Mersey.

If you find the use of the word Jurgen
offensive please substitute shithead.

Peter Mills
64 Posted 12/09/2025 at 09:08:27
I suspect it is mainly on away trips when these songs get tested out, are scrutinised for quality assurance.

I recall standing in Gwladys St in 1980 as we beat Crystal Palace 5-0. To the tune of Pink Floyd’s “Another Brick in the Wall”, a very determined aspiring lyricist near me persisted with singing “Malcolm Allison, you’re just another prick with two balls”.

Try as he might, he couldn’t make it catch on.

Alan McGuffog
65 Posted 12/09/2025 at 09:24:24
Les, how are you ? Bless em all was the first song I remember from the early sixties but I thought it was well in our back catalogue by the time Bally was with us ?
On a purely personal note I don't much care for songs like There She Goes...too complicated, too high a register, too quick a temporary for mass participation.
The best, bar none, footie anthem is sung at Easter Rd. Simple, slow tempo, emotional.
Les Callan
66 Posted 12/09/2025 at 10:27:14
I’m fine thanks Alan. Still meeting up each month in the Turks with Geoff, John, George, et al.
Tony Abrahams
67 Posted 12/09/2025 at 10:56:01
Lee Mavers has always strongly denied that the song is about having an heroin addiction, but never about having an Everton addiction!
Tony McDonald
68 Posted 12/09/2025 at 11:31:28
Get rid of Z cars? Wash yer mouth out with soap and water, (copyright mother McDonald). We must keep the iconic tune. Many people of a younger age will not know that the z cars theme is in fact an old Liverpool folk song, celebrating the life and loves of a sailor Johnny Todd. The first lines were “ Johnny Todd, he took a notion, for to cross the ocean wide, and he left his true love awaiting, standing on the Liverpool side”
If you put those words to the tune we know, it fits.
So, celebrating a seafarer is exactly what our stadium should be doing.
A Liverpool couple, Fritz Spiegal and Bridget fry, arranged the music into what we recognise from the tv series.
So yes, it stays.
Scott Hamilton
69 Posted 12/09/2025 at 11:54:27
No way we can get rid of Z Cars!!!

I spoke to a lady from New Brighton the day after the Brighton game and she said she was in her garden just before kick off and could hear the siren and Z Cars as clear as day.

That’s what we want on match day: something that’s 100% ‘Everton’ stamping its mark on the city and surrounding area.

Ray Roche
70 Posted 12/09/2025 at 12:15:04
Anthony Dove,

“Herr Klopp”.

You’re welcome. 😁

Jeff Spiers
71 Posted 12/09/2025 at 13:00:07
James@61 Totally agree. Sirens remind me of Dad's Army

Never, ever get rid of Z cars. It's Everton (and, if my memory serves me right, don't Watford play it?) The siren is a no-go.


Scott Hamilton
72 Posted 12/09/2025 at 13:35:55
Anybody else finding the site a bit laggy?

Taking quite a bit longer to load compared to other websites.

James Marshall
73 Posted 12/09/2025 at 13:43:07
I like the opening bars of Z Cars, but it needs to stop before the saxophone part. That bit is embarrassing.

And the 'woooo' in Spirit of the Blues can go as well. Someone needs to come up with something different.

I wish we'd ditch all the old songs really as part of the modernisation of the football club as a whole. Part of me wonders if things will get phased out in the coming seasons - it would probably be too much for some Evertonians to have dropped all the pre/post match songs as soon as we moved to BMD, but give it time I hope they drop them all and play modern music.

It's not 1965 anymore and Goodison is gone. We need a thorough culture shift and this is all part of that.

Sean Mitchell
74 Posted 12/09/2025 at 13:53:43
Get rid of the siren.

I understand the significance.

It just reminds me of depressing relegation battles.
Leave it behind at Goodison.

Start something new.

The siren makes me cringe, unfortunately.
My personal opinion.

Scott Hamilton
75 Posted 12/09/2025 at 14:23:00
The sirens are great!

Z Cars is a military-style tune so they work really well together. Hopefully it scares the shit out of visiting teams too.

Paul Washington
76 Posted 12/09/2025 at 15:27:52
Good to see you back, Dan, hope all is well.

Ditch the siren, keep Johnny Todd / Z-Cars. There are a couple of JT songs on Spotify (with lyrics) one by Liverpool group The Spinners.

Mark #46,

George Wood's verse – didn't it go:

Georgie, Georgie, Georgie Wood,
If he could, if he could!!!

Paul Kossoff
77 Posted 12/09/2025 at 15:30:41
Happy Jack was a blue and he heard us roar,
And he played on the grass at the Bramley-Moore.
😁
Paul Kossoff
78 Posted 12/09/2025 at 16:12:27
Johnny Todd is a traditional Liverpool folk song that was adapted into the theme music for the 1960s television series Z-Cars. The tune became the anthem for Everton FC, the football club, and was adopted by their fans in the 1960s. The song tells the story of a sailor who leaves his love behind to go to sea.

Origin and Adaption

In the early 1960s, the tune was arranged by Fritz Spiegl and his wife, Bridget Fry, for the television series Z-Cars, a police drama. Several versions of the arranged theme music were released as records in 1962, with Johnny Keating's version being the most successful.

Everton's supporters adopted the Z-Cars theme, also known as Johnny Todd, as their unofficial club anthem. The tune was first played to honor actor Leonard Williams, who appeared on the show and supported the club.

The Song's Narrative

The song tells the story of Johnny Todd, a young man from Liverpool who takes to the sea. He leaves behind a heartbroken lover, who ultimately moves on with another sailor.

Brian Temple
79 Posted 12/09/2025 at 16:16:34
Is this the derivation for being left on your tod/todd comes from?
Alan McGuffog
80 Posted 12/09/2025 at 16:38:02
Think it was Todd Sloan. Whoever the hell he was 🤷‍♂️
Raymond Fox
81 Posted 12/09/2025 at 16:55:57
Todd Sloan was an American jockey, Alan.

He came to ride in England with the crouching style that all jockeys now use, they used to all ride sitting bolt upright till he came along.

Brian Temple
82 Posted 12/09/2025 at 16:57:49
I always thought the "cockney rhyming slang" thing was BS.

Cockneys already used "Jack Jones" to mean on your own. Tod Sloan was a jockey btw.

Mark Murphy
83 Posted 12/09/2025 at 17:20:51
In other news, just got my location in the Everton Fanwall. I'm in Alan Ball's armpit!

Now, I loved Alan Ball, but, whoopy fucking doo!

UTFT


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