2-0 up after 20 minutes.

Btw anyone else got problems getting onto ToffeeWeb? The derby it just would not work. Now it's slow.

No problems with any other sites or apps.

If I knew more about Google Analytics, I might be able to figure out what is happening.

But shockingly, we don't seem to have any technical support from the new owners at weekends!

Maybe I'll ask my new friend, Gemini...

I was gutted about the derby and ToffeeWeb failing. But I appreciate you have your work cut out and put in so much time.

I live in Spain. Don't know if that's a factor. How can a football site not have support at a weekend that's just nuts... can we storm their cloud?

Brentford cruising and easily have had a 3rd. Now cruising and Man Utd now in control.

Sorry, I never did get to see your derby match report. Not that you could do much to reverse the negative vibes that resulted. You should be able to just post it as any article submission.

I emailed you but it bounced back.

Deserved yellow card finally flashed in his rat-looking face, either for the foul committed by him, or for one protest too many.

Good save by the ex RS keeper.

I've just had a quick look, and no discernible bias. But the stats are difficult to tabulate, for instance if Liverpool get their fifth goal disallowed unfairly, that's hardly the same as us having a last-minute winner chalked off. I'm not sure how they weigh the significance of the individual interventions.

I wonder if Amorin has Potter on speed dial?

West Ham will improve under Nuno. Interesting season this one, I think, and I don't expect to see the 3 promoted teams go back down. I think there is room for a giant to fall this season so it's imperative that we look after ourselves... starting with a win on Monday night!

If that wasn't a goalscoring oppo and a red then there must be no more reds forever, or VAR have plummeted the depths of useless even further.

Ratty Fernandes... lol.

Great to see one of the Big Six getting some.

Burnley and Wolves will struggle but I can't seen either being as bad as the likes of Southampton were or Luton previously.

Thomas Frank we should’ve got.

I’m not convinced Nuno would be a good fit for us.

Glasner and Iraola are two excellent managers who would join Everton if we were to approach them and pay them.

Yes, I like Thomas Frank and Iraola but Nuno is a good manager and there was no compensation to pay.

Now Davie will have to play his cards right... Everton might not be too slow next time!!!

Both have bigger fish to fry than a club like Everton who have been in the bottom half of the Premier League for most of the past 30 years.

I hope you are there on your own mate, it won't be a holiday for the poor sods who are with you!

It will be low block all game under Nuno as far as they're concerned, basically the same as with Forest but with a far worse team. It will be like watching a Dyche team.

So as for Monday, just expect West Ham to park the bus and try and dig out a 0-0 draw.

No pic of Sarr. Just the headline Liverpool trail to Palace. Did they not mean Palace in front against Liverpool? It's unbearable to watch a game they play even when they're losing.

West Ham were always going to sack Potter. He is lucky to have been associated with Brighton - since their excellent club management (and recruitment) made him look a lot better than he is. Hurzeler might be in that category too. He's got a lot to prove. Nuno Espirito Santos is a good fit for West Ham - and not unlike Moyes in many respects. They will be fine now.

As others are saying, Iraola and Glasner are both good managers - especially overcoming big sales this summer. Impressive start for both after losing key players. However, it is very early days and we could still finish above both clubs.

Would they come to Everton?

Probably not Iraola. He must be in with a shout of the Man Utd job when Amorim is sacked (which must be soon now). And if it's not Man Utd - he'd have other options.

Glasner seems more realistic.

But the real thing that will make the difference is further spending. Everyone can see that the squad still has glaring issues with it. We didn't / couldn't spend a lot on the rebuild this summer and it was always obvious it would take 2 or 3 windows with TFG to fix the very serious damage done by Moshiri.

I am sure this is obvious to TFG too.

So going to the disruption and cost of sacking a manager who seems to be performing broadly as expected - and to then replace him with a manager who is unlikely to perform materially better would seem a very unlikely move.

You forgot to mention they'd get a dubious goal too. Handball seemingly.

Salah had his arm right up in the air. Imo he handled it causing its flight to vary slightly, thus causing the poor header by the palace player which allowed Chiesa to get to it to score. The Palace back post lad should have done better.

VAR say Mo Salah didn't handle. I say he did.

It's loaded dice, in terms of money, officiating, VAR and the media.

I wish these six shithouses had been allowed to leave.

Let's see the smug bake of Van Dijk!!

Should have been at least 5- or 6-nil.

I wish we had a bit of what they've got about them.

Public inquiry now! LOL

A sign of a well run club is when it doesn't panic and also when it keeps selling its best players and then keeps performing well on the pitch; that's a club I would like to support.

Contrast that with us: It takes us the obligatory 3 years to recover from losing a key player, with every excuse under the sun being spewed out.

Palace stuck two fingers up to Liverpool on deadline day over Guehi, and they've done it again today, great stuff.

Ten minutes was finally played. No doubt Slop will demand an enquiry as to why more than six was played?

If we exclude the well known Carlo, are we the only club in the Premier League to have never plucked a foreign manager from a European League and made him our manager but have always played it safe?

City cruising... and best game I watched? Brentford v Man Utd. Forget the scoreline, real end-to-end stuff.

Palace need no mention.

Interesting - presumably Frank is a clown for not starting Porro, Sarr and Johnson? No doubt they'll be under a lot of pressure now to deliver against Leeds, etc, etc... ;-p

Could be an interesting season ahead.

I'd say Spurs were absolutely woeful for the entire match. A good goal by Palhinha for the equaliser but definitely not deserved.

Last week it was the foul on Ndiaye, which wasn’t given and led to their goal. And last night the Salah handball which was totally ignored and not even raised as a talking point.

We were promised a threeseome on motd but Dalgleish seems to have tied up the Saturday night slot for herself while, the much more talented, and beautiful, Gabby Logan is relegated to the Sunday night dead zone.

Chappers, if he’s not careful, will end up doing Football Focus which no one watches anymore.

He's always been a slow burner.

Still no Antonee Robinson or we would gave seen two former left backs on the same pitch..

Thinking back to Leeds, inconsistency is so annoying isn't it! 🙄

Spot on! Just proves VAR is a complete joke.

KDH “handball” nowhere near as bad as that yet penalty given.

We have to bin this nonsense asap.

This referee's performance is disgusting. Cant see Silva lasting much longer.

If you're flying in to block or stop a shot, how the hell can you have your arm alongside your body????

VAR has been the absolute worst nonsense ever introduced to footy.

The incompetent refs we have are redundant anyway.

No doubt some stupid explanation will be posted on the screen, when they've decided what say!

It seems a foul outside the penalty area is a free kick yet, inside the penalty area, it is what slow-motion replay will decide it to be.

Unless VAR has other ideas...

They don't have the goals in them to win it, especially on the road consistently.

Woltemade with Geordie's goal, well the saying is when signing strikers, you get what you pay for.

Clearly you don't get quality for what we are out there spending on forwards anymore.

Good goal by the Newcastle big lad though, wonder if Barry was watching? That's how you do it, lad!

Or an entire team that cheat like fuck, go down quicker than a cheap whore, think they have a right to every decision going their way, and are not worthy of setting foot near a pitch.

It was a penalty. No doubt. But it's refreshing to see a top 6 team being treated like we are every game. Like Collins's non-sending off yesterday, it is a staggering decision.

Conversely, Gabriel should be ashamed. Can you see Adams or Keown going down with a fingertip touch.

Mr Moyes, take note. That is what a centre-forward looks like. Go out and get two in January. No excuses.

I'm sticking my neck out here but I don't think they'll finish in the Top 4.

Gyokeres is a poor man’s Bendtner

Damn they are good at those.

I do believe Arteta can win the league.

Until this season they haven't had the squad. The year they blew it was after Saliba got injured and was replaced by Rob Holding. He's not even championship level.

They have played Man Utd, Liverpool and Newcastle away as well as Man City at home largely without Odegard Saliba Saka and Haverts.

They have now the squad to win it and I'm convinced they will.

Foul all the way ……in the old days. But now it seems acceptable.

That was weak and poor keeping.

So this tactic at least goes back to the early 60s from my personal knowledge. In fact keepers were subject to a lot worse back then, ending up in the back of the net from set pieces & I can remember a certain Frank Wignall of our persuasion making an art form of bundling keepers over the goal line with ball in hand & being awarded the goals.

I also believe a certain Nat Lifthouse was famous for this a lot earlier still. Whereas you only have to give them a nasty look these days for them to get a free kick.

Made up because I despise Newcastle and their delusional fans, I bet they're gutted that Sunderland are flying high as well.

Long may it continue.

Good to a point but then it fizzles out.