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Viewpoint Cutting
the cord
One of our Mailbag contributors, David C, submitted this dissertation with a rather startling concept that he later narrowed down into a challenge to Evertonians, and to us, the custodians of ToffeeWeb:
Then, because I was a little slow publishing this rant, David followed up with this: Obviously things aren't that bad, that you're not prepared to withdraw YOUR support. Or even broadcast that many Bluenoses feel that the time has come and gone. The question has some merit, even if the presentation leaves something to be desired. Where would I draw the line? I really thought the departure of Rooney would do it for me. One of the things we started doing on this website that nobody was doing was following the fortunes of the Everton Youth and Reserves teams. Starting back in 1996-97, we provided coverage of the Youth Cup and Reserves games. When Everton finally deigned to enter the new FA Premier Youth League in 1998, we documented all those Youth Academy games as well. The underlying purpose was to track the development of young players coming up through the ranks, with the unspoken dream that a gem of unparalleled talent would make his way into the first team. Wayne Rooney became the unique manifestation of that, and it happened on our watch. The only occasion this will happen in our lifetime. So it was all the more galling for me to document through the other key areas of this website � the news items, archived for posterity in each Season Diary, and the classically tantalizing Rumour Mill, not to mention some excellent articles from dedicated Evertonians like Colm Kavanagh � the initial murmurings that developed into Machiavellian machinations which eventually saw his acrimonious departure. That sent a dagger through the heart of many a true Evertonian, spin or no spin. But we persisted. ToffeeWeb and it predecessors, especially Lyndon's Evertonia.com, have been around for a long time, and we are in it for the long haul. Obviously we are ardent supporters of Everton (although some of our critics would question that!), and yet the Club could have argued that, once they finally got a half-decent website operating, we were drawing some of their traffic, and denying them revenue. Indeed, there was a period a couple of years ago when it seemed the Premier League would mount a campaign to drive away all of the independent and unofficial websites. That misguided attempt to monopolize the Internet failed, and credit to Everton FC for not going after us at that time. In fact, we maintain a good relationship with the Club, and now there seem to be far more unofficial sites who are each doing their own thing and catering for their own groups of Evertonians. That's getting off the point a little, but it's to illustrate two things. We do this because we are first and foremost Everton Supporters. And secondly, doing this does not involve much financial support that goes to the Kenwright coffers. So we don't share the same rational underlying your stance: the withdrawal of financial support; it just doesn't apply. Personally, I don't get to too many matches, but I do watch as many complete games as I can that are televised. So again, I'm not shelling out directly for match tickets... although some of the money I pay for TV coverage likely finds its way back to Goodison Park. But I know that's not your real point. How bad would it have to become?
... now that would start to raise some legitimate concerns. Would I personally carry on spending the time I do to run this website? It could offer the chance to pack it in, and arguably spend my time on more worthwhile or profitable pursuits. Unlikely, though. I think, David C, your main point is flawed. Your implication is that support of Everton involves providing implicit and continuing approval of Bill Kenwright, of David Moyes, and of all things Everton. As this website has always maintained, we do not offer blind and unwavering sycophantic allegiance to all things Everton, and indeed not to the current custodians. We provide instead critical appraisal that includes a recognition of the roles and responsibilities these men have, and attempts to provide an appraisal of their effectiveness in doing their jobs for Everton, and advancing the future of the Club. Your rant also assumes that these key people in charge don't seem to know what is happening to our club, and that your actions will somehow help to bring this home to them. Nothing could possibly be more misguided. No-one is more submerged in this mess than David Moyes, whose task it is to redress the failures and disappointments that have brought you as a supporter to this awful nexus. His latest words today say as much. To think otherwise is plainly silly. Your gesture may make you feel better about the confusing personal dichotomy of supporting a once-great club with a motto that is now palpably redundant. Yet your gesture will go largely unnoticed and its effect on things will be negligible. Almost everybody else (with some exceptions who you should really get to know) will continue supporting Everton in our own individual ways. For 30,000 or so, that will continue to involve attending the game, only a fraction of them paying out fresh monies... only a fraction of which will go to any budget over which Moyes or Kenwright has discretionary spending power. Of course you are unhappy about the results of the last two games. And you are not alone. We are all upset... who isn't? But to rant and rave and stamp your feet in this tizzy is really just a bit sad. The much-maligned Blue sub-motto comes to mind: Once a Blue, Always a Blue.
Michael
Kenrick
Responses: Michael - and the rest of the TW staff -I'm not going to take too much time here, I feel we both agree this debate has well and truly ended. I did want to make a few points, for my benefit rather than to appear in the mailbag. I'm not advocating abandoning Everton. I even said in there - somewhere - that I'm an Evertonian. Born one, will die one. I'm advocating withdrawing financial backing for a board of inept tossers, and a manager who {with every game} one suspects may be in the same boat. That doesn't mean shutting down websites. It doesn't mean ignoring debates in the alehouse about tactics, the uselessness of Kilbane and whether Atlantis will be found before Kr�ldrup plays a game. It means stop giving the club your money. No more replica kits, no more coffee mugs, no more overpriced tickets to watch shite. Whether that affects the club or not is beside the point. Boycotting the Sun is much in the same league. If you don't support it, don't fucking buy it. I'm not sure Murdoch misses our loose change either. But it doesn't mean we should go buy it. My question was - when would you advocate a mass action like mine? When would you be willing to follow my course of action yourself? Id there a line there? If so, where? The club cares not about us - as long as we keep turning up. 0-4 tonkings by sides that would seem inferior on paper doesn't mean the ticket prices will go down for the next match. That's because people keep stumping over the cash. I think the current regime is a disgrace, and is running the club at best, into nowhere, and at worst into the ground. I can't make change. The only way for me to indicate my disapproval - as far as I see it - is to withdraw my financial support of the club. As you so rightly point out many times - it ain't Kenwrights money going to Weir, Pistone and Bent - it's ours. Yours, mine and Tony Marshes. Except you can take me out of that loop now. I won't pay for shite. They made football a "product" {vomit}, I choose not to buy. Whether that makes a difference to the club or not is irrelevant. It makes a difference to me. I'm not rich, I work fucking hard for everything I get. I'll spend it something that warrants it - until I see evidence of realistic sustainable change at Everton. {Which almost certainly means Kenwrights departure}. That was my point. I still look for the results on the net, I still visit your web site, if the games on in the alehouse when I'm there I watch it. But giving Kenwright and Co my money reinforces the central problem with Everton. We're so fucking loyal, we'll pay to watch any old shit. More this season than ever before - significantly more. both shite and money actually} Count me out is all. I obviously touched a nerve there somewhere, and I'm not sure how or why. But that doesn't matter either. You were big enough to publish my contribution, and big enough to debate it. I really appreciate that, and it's more evidence that this website is the only fucking thing deserving of a certain Latin inscription. {Except for a certain naive and verbose Moyes apologist} It's over, let's leave it at that. Merry Xmas, may all your hangovers be transitory. All best - for Everton and yourselves - David C
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