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Who do we compete with?
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David Moyes wanted Scott Parker 9 months ago, he also inquired about Joey Barton only 3 months ago... now both players are up for grabs but it again appeares that we will lose out to either Newcastle (again) or West Ham (Why?). Are we saying we cannot compete with Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal?
Now it appeares that we cannot compete with Tottenham, Aston Villa, Newcastle, West Ham. so where are we in the scheme of things as i am not a business man only a simple supporter who wants to see the best players available to Everton that the top 4 don't want. Why is it now we can expect to loose out to these other clubs in the transfer market?
Jimmy Digney, Posted 04/06/2007 at 13:53:50
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Scott Parker has hardly set the world alight at Newcastle and I don’t really think he has much about him. The fact that he’s their captain and they are still prepared to offload him says a lot for me.
Joey Barton, meanwhile, is someone I would’ve liked to have seen but it seems he’s being lured away by the offer of daft wages.
I don’t really understand all these ’we’re getting left behind’ comments though. There hasn’t really been a significant transfer yet and to suggest we can’t compete with the likes of West Ham, Villa and Newcastle is just daft. We have better players than these teams and finished way clear of them last season so I don’t understand how they are being talked up as being so far ahead of us. I would say they were barely hanging onto our coat tails.
Joey Barton, meanwhile, is someone I would’ve liked to have seen but it seems he’s being lured away by the offer of daft wages.
I don’t really understand all these ’we’re getting left behind’ comments though. There hasn’t really been a significant transfer yet and to suggest we can’t compete with the likes of West Ham, Villa and Newcastle is just daft. We have better players than these teams and finished way clear of them last season so I don’t understand how they are being talked up as being so far ahead of us. I would say they were barely hanging onto our coat tails.
With regards to parker and barton i agree with sean. Both players are massively overpriced and would both be asking for higher wages than our current top earners. Neither player is far better than what we have already and both have negative points against them. Barton’s mental and Parker over-rated.
In response to Jimmey’s comments I think these two transfers should be looked at as an example of the types of players we can?t compete with the barcodes and the ?ammers as we shouldn?t want to compete with them for overrated players on high wages with no real hunger beyond their bank balances. The Barcodes and now the ’ammers are free to waste money on hollywood wages for z-list players (Lucas Neil 50k a week?!?) whereas the reality is we can offer a maximum of 30-35K, so in this respect we clearly cannot compete with them without risking our long term future.
We will have to continue to show imagination and courage in the transfer market (Johnson, cahill, arteta, lescott, howard) and build the side and the collective incrementally. There is simply no point getting involved in a wage war culminating in signing a player with wages of 50k and upsetting our current stars on 30k.
The most crucial market in which we compete for players is with Redshite, Shittie and scum and this is for the best youngsters in the north-west. An area of fertile football talent we have lost too many players in the past to the dark side. With the new academy and current crop of youngsters coming through (Vaughan, Anichebe) I think this is the area we should be concentrating on most. The examples of Nugent, Jagielka, Barton etc who have slipped through the net could quite easily have been playing for us now without the huge transfer fees. Moyes has shown he is keen to give youth a chance and this is the future of the club not over paid players with inflated transfer fees.
In response to Jimmey’s comments I think these two transfers should be looked at as an example of the types of players we can?t compete with the barcodes and the ?ammers as we shouldn?t want to compete with them for overrated players on high wages with no real hunger beyond their bank balances. The Barcodes and now the ’ammers are free to waste money on hollywood wages for z-list players (Lucas Neil 50k a week?!?) whereas the reality is we can offer a maximum of 30-35K, so in this respect we clearly cannot compete with them without risking our long term future.
We will have to continue to show imagination and courage in the transfer market (Johnson, cahill, arteta, lescott, howard) and build the side and the collective incrementally. There is simply no point getting involved in a wage war culminating in signing a player with wages of 50k and upsetting our current stars on 30k.
The most crucial market in which we compete for players is with Redshite, Shittie and scum and this is for the best youngsters in the north-west. An area of fertile football talent we have lost too many players in the past to the dark side. With the new academy and current crop of youngsters coming through (Vaughan, Anichebe) I think this is the area we should be concentrating on most. The examples of Nugent, Jagielka, Barton etc who have slipped through the net could quite easily have been playing for us now without the huge transfer fees. Moyes has shown he is keen to give youth a chance and this is the future of the club not over paid players with inflated transfer fees.
Parker is an excellent player but is leaving Newcastle because he is homesick and wants to return to London. No chance for Everton there.
Barton may or may not be too much trouble but couple that uncertainty with excessive wage demands and he looks less and less like a good buy.
It is not a question of us not competing, we are simply looking for the right player at the right price. I’m sure there are fans on other pages sulking because they can’t "compete" with us for the signing of Jagielka.
Barton may or may not be too much trouble but couple that uncertainty with excessive wage demands and he looks less and less like a good buy.
It is not a question of us not competing, we are simply looking for the right player at the right price. I’m sure there are fans on other pages sulking because they can’t "compete" with us for the signing of Jagielka.
Perhaps the reason we are not competing with them for Barton and Parker is very simple, we don’t want them. By your reasoning, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, Man United, cannot compete with West Ham and Newcastle since they have not tabled bids for the two players. Yes, we wanted to sign Barton in January, he refused, then he lost his bloody mind over the second half of the season and put a team mate in the hospital. Parker refused to sign for us a couple years back because he wanted huge wages. We have built a good side and will continue to build this team with the right players. Just because a player is available, that does not mean that we want to sign him and does not indicate that we are being surpassed by smaller clubs when they sign that player.
I believe we backed out of the Scott Parker deal two years ago because his agent was a greedy bastard. We refused to pay him a million in fees so Parker went to Newcastle.
If this is true then I can totally understand why Moyes wouldn’t go near him again.
Barton wanted to come to us, we didn’t want him. The wages jib is probably an agent tactic to keep clubs interest in their player. It sounds better than - "Everton didn’t want him because my client is a violent and distributive turd".
If this is true then I can totally understand why Moyes wouldn’t go near him again.
Barton wanted to come to us, we didn’t want him. The wages jib is probably an agent tactic to keep clubs interest in their player. It sounds better than - "Everton didn’t want him because my client is a violent and distributive turd".
John Holmes sorry to pick on you again mate ;-)but: "I?m sure there are fans on other pages sulking because they can?t "compete" with us for the signing of Jagielka." From all I have read, other teams(Wigan,Villa) are offering better packages and are ready to meet the 6m asking price, whereas we bet on the good will of the player to come to us and want to drag the price down.
As for Barton and Parker we are well of the pace. I think this will be a long summer with little transfer activity and I am not sure that we will be able to land even our secondary targets, which given our threadbare squad would be disaster. I hope I am wrong though
As for Barton and Parker we are well of the pace. I think this will be a long summer with little transfer activity and I am not sure that we will be able to land even our secondary targets, which given our threadbare squad would be disaster. I hope I am wrong though
Seriously, would you want either of them? Barton is a trouble causing nutter, who will want at least £50k+ per week and Scot Parker blew it when he knocked us back a few years ago - plus the fact that he’s got one of those annoying suvern accents like Beckham!
I have been told about an egyption striker who is available this summer for around £3-4m and I think diverring Davie should check him out as he is very similar to Tierry Henry. His name is Mohamed Zidan and currently plays in Germany. Have a look on you tube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRilpPRTQuc
He could be a replacement for AJ if he decides to leave us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRilpPRTQuc
He could be a replacement for AJ if he decides to leave us.
Damien McKay
this:http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=470087&CPID=22&clid=161&lid=9&title=Hamburg+swoop+for+Zidan&channel=&
Hamburg tracked him for 3-4 months and everybody knew that he will sign for them before the season was closed. Keep it real
this:http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=470087&CPID=22&clid=161&lid=9&title=Hamburg+swoop+for+Zidan&channel=&
Hamburg tracked him for 3-4 months and everybody knew that he will sign for them before the season was closed. Keep it real
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