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Now although BK can be quite embarassing to listen to when eulogising about his manager, and quite annoying when discusssing how much work he is putting into finding a new investor, I have always given him the benefit of the doubt because he is a Blue.
I must admit though that even I am now beginning to wonder if it's not him that is putting off potential investors. This week I have been reading what is probably newspaper summer footy rumour-mongering of how Birmingham city are about to be bought by one of the world's richest men.
It's a club with potential (as long as Villa don't realise theirs) but why didn't he come and have a sniff at Everton first? I can only think of two reasons why we arent being bought up... One: our debts are actually much worse than BK is admitting; Two: BK is being very careful of who he is selling to.
If BK had loads more money to waste on players like Beattie (sic) then I'd be happy to put up with his bullshit to be honest, but something is not right if Birmingham and Man City are a better buy than us at the moment.
Iain McWilliam, Posted 13/06/2007 at 06:56:34
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I dont think that those teams are considered to be a better buy,however,to buy something it does actually have to be for sale and although BK has repeatedly said that he wants investors I dont think he has any intention of selling his stake!
It really won’t do to present Kenwright as some kind of innocent who just happens to be a blue at heart. Kenwright’s real job is as a producer/impressario of theatre and films. What’s that if it’s not seeking investment?
Kenwright is living out his ultimate fantasy as the Chairman of our club. He is, in the process destroying the club and possibly turning away outside interest.
Please, A.H. don’t fall for his cod, man of the people act. I met him some thirty years ago and we talked about Everton as two "blues" at a party in London andeven then he struck me as a posturer and a phoney.
Kenwright is living out his ultimate fantasy as the Chairman of our club. He is, in the process destroying the club and possibly turning away outside interest.
Please, A.H. don’t fall for his cod, man of the people act. I met him some thirty years ago and we talked about Everton as two "blues" at a party in London andeven then he struck me as a posturer and a phoney.
One of two things is happening, either Bill is being very picky about who he sells to or he is trying not to sell whilst making out that he is. If its the latter good on you, being taken over by a big spending billionaire may not be a good thing if he is the wrong sort. How would Chelsea fare if Roman walked away today, massive wage bills and no way of paying them - they would go bust within a year. So waiting for the right investor is the best thing to do. However if you are leading us on Mr Kenwright then you are betraying the thing you claim to love the most - the man who murdered the girl simply because she was with someone else. If I cant have her noone will. Please BK If you love, I mean truly love Everton Football Club let it go. Set it free and watch it flourish. I do believe Bill gates would be a call. TRUST ME.
I’ve been thinking the same - why does Everton continually get overlooked in the investment stakes?
I honestly do not think Bill wants to sell his shares in Everton. He has said time and time again "if the right off come along..." - how much more right could some of the recent offers have been?
I also believe that Bill wants to make a BIG profit on his investment and that is why he doesn’t want to sell.
On top of that, I wonder if the vehicle which Everton is being run is causing problems for potential investors? I remember True Blue Holdings being dilluted to encourage investment but is the current vehicle still causing investment problems?
I honestly do not think Bill wants to sell his shares in Everton. He has said time and time again "if the right off come along..." - how much more right could some of the recent offers have been?
I also believe that Bill wants to make a BIG profit on his investment and that is why he doesn’t want to sell.
On top of that, I wonder if the vehicle which Everton is being run is causing problems for potential investors? I remember True Blue Holdings being dilluted to encourage investment but is the current vehicle still causing investment problems?
I have no doubt, that there has been a strong interest, from investors, keen to get involved in a famous premier club, I am also convinced, that they have been met
with a rather mixed reception.
Our chairman reminds me of a man with a rather flash car, who knows very well he cannot afford to run it, yet reluctantly puts it up for sale.
And when interested parties call to
have a look and find out the cost, they are met with rather negative vibes.
I have no idea, what our financial
situation is like, but something or someone is giving doubt to any possible interest, Man city, B’ham and every other club are joining the Come and invest brigade.
But the silence from our very depleted board gives no assurance, to Everton fans, regarding what future holds on and off the pitch.
with a rather mixed reception.
Our chairman reminds me of a man with a rather flash car, who knows very well he cannot afford to run it, yet reluctantly puts it up for sale.
And when interested parties call to
have a look and find out the cost, they are met with rather negative vibes.
I have no idea, what our financial
situation is like, but something or someone is giving doubt to any possible interest, Man city, B’ham and every other club are joining the Come and invest brigade.
But the silence from our very depleted board gives no assurance, to Everton fans, regarding what future holds on and off the pitch.
Surely I am not alone in hoping that Blue Bill Kenwright who,after all,is one of our own never succumbs to the temptation to sell Everton FC.The new-mostly foreign-investors are interested in one thing only and that’s making a massive return on their investment.
Do you remember how we all cheered when Johnson came in to ’rescue’the club from the remnants of the Moores’dynasty and how badly we had our fingers burned in consequence.
Bill has done enough over his tenure-particularly with the appointment of David Moyes-to earn our eternal gratitude and should be awarded the freedom of the City before we de-camp to Kirby in 3 years time.
Gratitude,brother Evertonians,gratitude, please!
Do you remember how we all cheered when Johnson came in to ’rescue’the club from the remnants of the Moores’dynasty and how badly we had our fingers burned in consequence.
Bill has done enough over his tenure-particularly with the appointment of David Moyes-to earn our eternal gratitude and should be awarded the freedom of the City before we de-camp to Kirby in 3 years time.
Gratitude,brother Evertonians,gratitude, please!
I find some of the comments on this board absurd.
Whilst there can be concrete accusations regarding the progress being made by Everton Footbal Club, in terms of the pace of this progress. I find it difficult to believe that people throw comments in like ’destroying the club’ and ’Moyes is tactically inept’.
Firstly, lets remember the state of the club just a few short years back, remember Wimbledon, remember Big Dunc being flogged (quite literally) to Newcastle for £7million to keep the banks from calling us in. Constant rumours of Everton Football Club going bust at any moment.
Because there is no noise coming from the club doesn’t mean nothing is happening. I for one am happy, ney ecstatic, that these noises are no longer coming from within.
What of Moyes, I think the Moyes out brigade should look long and hard, the 10 years previous to Moyes, you would rather revert to that? Would you rather we emplyed someone else to do the job? Which manager then would you have taken?? You would have been hard pressed to get anyone with any real reputation. We had to go for potential, and suddenly we have a team now 5 years later that has real potential, can you not see that? - take your blinkers off and be realistic please. This kind of nonsense could turn us into the next Newcastle.
Moyes isn’t a world beater, and he isn’t perfect. But he is learning, and pushing us forward, slowly yes but surely.
So instead of wondering why we haven’t been approached by the latest whizz kid from across the water. Be thankful we are still in the hands of a true blue. What happens when the whizz kids grow tired of their new toy, or realise that they are not gonna make an absolute mint without bleeding the club dry?
I rest my case.
Whilst there can be concrete accusations regarding the progress being made by Everton Footbal Club, in terms of the pace of this progress. I find it difficult to believe that people throw comments in like ’destroying the club’ and ’Moyes is tactically inept’.
Firstly, lets remember the state of the club just a few short years back, remember Wimbledon, remember Big Dunc being flogged (quite literally) to Newcastle for £7million to keep the banks from calling us in. Constant rumours of Everton Football Club going bust at any moment.
Because there is no noise coming from the club doesn’t mean nothing is happening. I for one am happy, ney ecstatic, that these noises are no longer coming from within.
What of Moyes, I think the Moyes out brigade should look long and hard, the 10 years previous to Moyes, you would rather revert to that? Would you rather we emplyed someone else to do the job? Which manager then would you have taken?? You would have been hard pressed to get anyone with any real reputation. We had to go for potential, and suddenly we have a team now 5 years later that has real potential, can you not see that? - take your blinkers off and be realistic please. This kind of nonsense could turn us into the next Newcastle.
Moyes isn’t a world beater, and he isn’t perfect. But he is learning, and pushing us forward, slowly yes but surely.
So instead of wondering why we haven’t been approached by the latest whizz kid from across the water. Be thankful we are still in the hands of a true blue. What happens when the whizz kids grow tired of their new toy, or realise that they are not gonna make an absolute mint without bleeding the club dry?
I rest my case.
Dickie Dodd, pure unaldurated shite yet again, this same con merchant said "Rooney the £50m player", fooled the fans he is supposed to love with the Fortress Fund LIES to strengthen nobody but HIS OWN POSITION and also made claims of non-existent Russian billionaire investors. The man is a charlatan, a liar and a disgrace, leading the club away from the city is a tragic and disastrous mistake only a self centred, self indulging clown of a chairman would do and not one I would ever trust.
I have the great misfortune to work alongside Richard Dodds(’only my wife calls me Dickie’) and do you know the daft bastard actually believes in the shite he posts on Toffeeweb.
Until he gets an official job in the Everton Pressroom, I am afraid we shall continue to suffer his sycophantic ravings.But I do hear there is hope!
Until he gets an official job in the Everton Pressroom, I am afraid we shall continue to suffer his sycophantic ravings.But I do hear there is hope!
In response to Mark Hill, if we dont get one of these investors in soon we WILL fall behind the other clubs in the premiership simply due to being priced out of competing with anyone else in terms of price tags and wages.
Also these investors arent fucking stupid. They dont get bored of things that WILL make them an absolute fortune. Chelski are and exception, the other investors that are coming in, most noteably the shite across the park and manure know what theyre doing. theyre businessmen who have done this in different sports. Also dont know if anyone noticed but the shite missing out on the Dubai consortium was probably the best news everton fc could have ever had.(Especially as the yanks seem to be stallin on their spending) Coz they would of propelled liverpool so far we wud never of moved out of their shadow, which as horrible n sickening as it is too admit, is true... for now.
in moyes i think we should all trust. the only fault i have of the man is sometimes he has to make a mistake more than once to learn from it. other than that you cant really complain with what hes done at everton. we are making steady albeit slow progess.
Kenwright on the other hand must go. Everton are an attractive club and im not gonna insult anyones intelligence by listing the reasons why, we all know them. Theres no excuse for Kenwright not to be able to sell his stake and move aside.
In a few years every premiership club will be owned by foreign investors, simply because they have more money and more spending power than chairmans of football clubs at present. the premiership football clubs are moving into a whole new level of spending. its time for the ’’old style chairman’’ to move aside.
Also these investors arent fucking stupid. They dont get bored of things that WILL make them an absolute fortune. Chelski are and exception, the other investors that are coming in, most noteably the shite across the park and manure know what theyre doing. theyre businessmen who have done this in different sports. Also dont know if anyone noticed but the shite missing out on the Dubai consortium was probably the best news everton fc could have ever had.(Especially as the yanks seem to be stallin on their spending) Coz they would of propelled liverpool so far we wud never of moved out of their shadow, which as horrible n sickening as it is too admit, is true... for now.
in moyes i think we should all trust. the only fault i have of the man is sometimes he has to make a mistake more than once to learn from it. other than that you cant really complain with what hes done at everton. we are making steady albeit slow progess.
Kenwright on the other hand must go. Everton are an attractive club and im not gonna insult anyones intelligence by listing the reasons why, we all know them. Theres no excuse for Kenwright not to be able to sell his stake and move aside.
In a few years every premiership club will be owned by foreign investors, simply because they have more money and more spending power than chairmans of football clubs at present. the premiership football clubs are moving into a whole new level of spending. its time for the ’’old style chairman’’ to move aside.
A H (alan hansen?)
You seem to reach a conclusion that any of these foreign owners are gonna be spending well above the revenue of the clubs they have bought... that is way off the mark mate and at a club like Everton, while a takeover may possibly create a short-term ’lump sum’ of investment, (although it could also leave us in more debt- i.e. ManU) revenue will not increase unless it is taken out of our pockets, via ticket prices or Sky coughing up more (and charge us more money to watch even more ’big 4’ games)
These investors putting money into clubs like ManC and BrumC are probably banking on survival in the premierleague and an overall increase in TV revenues which will enable them to sell on the club eventually for a profit to another fool further down the line. They are not suddenly going to start throwing millions at world-class players thinking they can win the league. The only available route to breaking the monopoly at the top of the league is gradual (cheap) building of a team that can bring success and help increase the fan base. I agree Kenwright needs to go, or at least dilute his shareholdings - but I for one am glad he is selective about who comes in?
I just hope he doesnt intend to lead us to Kirkby, then leave us on our knees...
More importantly for me, Wyness needs to be sacked, as he is a bullshitter who works the figures to make it look like he is doing his job, when in fact he is ripping the mat out from under us.
You seem to reach a conclusion that any of these foreign owners are gonna be spending well above the revenue of the clubs they have bought... that is way off the mark mate and at a club like Everton, while a takeover may possibly create a short-term ’lump sum’ of investment, (although it could also leave us in more debt- i.e. ManU) revenue will not increase unless it is taken out of our pockets, via ticket prices or Sky coughing up more (and charge us more money to watch even more ’big 4’ games)
These investors putting money into clubs like ManC and BrumC are probably banking on survival in the premierleague and an overall increase in TV revenues which will enable them to sell on the club eventually for a profit to another fool further down the line. They are not suddenly going to start throwing millions at world-class players thinking they can win the league. The only available route to breaking the monopoly at the top of the league is gradual (cheap) building of a team that can bring success and help increase the fan base. I agree Kenwright needs to go, or at least dilute his shareholdings - but I for one am glad he is selective about who comes in?
I just hope he doesnt intend to lead us to Kirkby, then leave us on our knees...
More importantly for me, Wyness needs to be sacked, as he is a bullshitter who works the figures to make it look like he is doing his job, when in fact he is ripping the mat out from under us.
Robert Maxwell used to say that being rich was not about having money but having the ability to borrow it!It seems to me that most of these newcomers just borrow against the assets of the club rather than spend their own dough.Trouble is Buster has pawned off our assets to provide a quick fix so nobody of substance is interested.It’s Kenwright for keeps,methinks!
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Yes hes passionate about the club and yes you cant really doubt that he has the clubs best interests at heart
However can you really picture BK winning over a potential investor (who may be encouraged about his passion for the club)when discussing investment? These investors are educated professional businessmen with years of experience and numerous qualifications. Passion alone will go no where in convincing them to invest their millions (hopefully billions!) into Everton. FC. Can just picture BK now, ’’This is a great club that I love very much, the fans are fantastic, the communitys superb, oh and by the way did you see me on tele the other week?’’ I maybe being a little harsh in underestimating BK’s intelligence but from interviews that we have all seen, id be surprised if anyone can say they have much confidence in the man.
Whether its BKs responsibilty or not you only need to look at Evertons inability to capatilze on the huge market in Asia in which it already has some exposure through its sponsor.
Appointing Keith Wyness is probably the best move Everton has made in a long time. It will take him time however. He seems to know what he’s doing and lets just hope any meetings that take place are left in his hands!