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All or nothing

One thing about all these stadium arguments that anybody hardly cares to mention is the simple fact that we should all agree on what happens. I am not on the fence, in fact I think it will be a tragedy to move to this site. I may be wrong but that's my opinion.

Anyhow, is it not right that if, when and where we move it should be done with the full backing of our support because once we move there is no going back? So tell me this: if 30,000 fans vote and 16,000 vote for the move, how can the club justify saying "right, that's it; off to Kirby we go". Bollocks to the other 14,000 and the other 15,000 who love the club but cannot afford a season ticket so don't get a vote. People's Club, my arse. They will do this believe me.

I know there will always be people against any proposal but I mean the vast majority, because if this vote is done fairly it looks like a close call. This is our club and just because I think "Micky from Oxford" is just after a quick fix in Kirkby, it doesn't make him to be an idiot who doesn't love Everton as much as me. The simple facts are thousands of Blues do not trust the idiots running our club for numerous reasons and one of them is they won't give a toss what we say; what they want they will do, end of. And is it right to trust these with the biggest decision in our history?
Paul Halliwell, Wirral Posted 26/06/2007 at 18:43:47

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Lyndon

The Club have not announced details of the vote but the general consensus appears to be that it will not be decided on the basis of a simple majority. A certain percentage is going to have to be agreed upon as an effective mandate. 75% has been suggested in some supporters' debates but the actual vote may be a lot closer than that so it'll be interesting to see what happens.

roy coyne
1 Posted 26/06/2007 at 23:19:44

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Lyndon with Kenwrights track record I dont think it will be any where near 75% more like 51%

paul wharton
2 Posted 27/06/2007 at 07:51:56

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lyndon,mr. wyness has stated that 51 per cent will be enough.

philip mcavoy
3 Posted 27/06/2007 at 08:26:04

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likewise if 49% vote against thae move do you say bollocks to the majoritydo want to move?
I’m against the move but for the vote. It will exclude me but i think it’s aimed at a sensible group and even better for me will probably vote against.

Dan McKie
4 Posted 27/06/2007 at 10:13:40

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Cant think of many votes that have been 100% versus 0% and if everyone had to agree to get anything done then nothing would ever happen anywhere! Im for the move just because i want to see Everton playing in a nice new stadium,but saying that,I live in Blackpool so dont really have a view on the whole boundary issue cos its a 100 mile round trip for me anyway.

Paul Halliwell
5 Posted 27/06/2007 at 10:42:29

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Firtly if you read again I did state you will never get everyone agreeing to anything ,secondly I dont think you should say bollocks to the people who vote to move, if the vast majority vote for kirkby then the club should move, however you are not going to get a one sided support on kirkby .
Imagine this,if that kings dock had not been built and we were offered it again what sort of percentage would vote for it? I would say at least 85% and this is what my arguement is and if that means waiting a couple more years to find a place we should ALL agree on, rather than jepoardise so much including splitting the fans to the point were some is classed as a dickhead for wanting to stay or an out of town tit for wanting to go.

Alex
6 Posted 27/06/2007 at 14:18:02

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I have little doubt that Wyness will be delighted with a 51% yes vote. If we take the 24,000 season ticket holders as representative of the overall support (say 36,000 home fans each week), then if a third of the no voters stop going to the match (6,000) then that would be within his 20% figure for loss of support.

Presumably, he believes that these fans can be replaced. This is no Wimbledon/MK Dons situation here where a town was desperate to have a football club. There is no untapped support in Kirkby of people desperate to have that Sofa company experience en route to the match.

Roy coyne
7 Posted 27/06/2007 at 16:59:01

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As a ex shop Steward a 51% majority is a nightmare either way but I’m sure it will be acceptable to Bill if its to move personally I think Bill should move not the club