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Yet again, Everton are getting outdone in the transfer market. How can Fulham spend £6.5 million on a championship striker (Diomansy Kamara) yet Everton, a bigger club and in Europe are terrified to spend over £4 million on a player?

It was well publicised in the papers about the amount of money teams would get for their final place in the league table. According to the papers, 6th place recieved about £7.1M. Where is this money now? I doubt it has been put in for transfers.

It pisses me off that Tottenham, who I think are a smaller club than us and who have a smaller stadium, can spend £17M on Darren Bent, £10M on an untried 17-year-old, and are now linked with a £17M double swoop for Wright-Phillips and Lassana Diarra. This is down to one thing and one thing only, AMBITION.

Although Jagielka is a good player, he will not improve our team and we should only be signing players that will improve the team. Why not go for players who have proven themselves at the highest level, such as Defoe or Smith, and not players such as Richardson and Koumas. Somehow, I cannot see many players arriving at Goodison any time soon.
John Murphy, Liverpool     Posted 30/06/2007 at 14:49:06

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Shaka Islam
1   Posted 30/06/2007 at 16:55:35

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Birmingham have signed Kapo. A player we?ve recently been linked with. Bloody typical.

Chelsea?s Geremi is a free agent from the 1st of July. I think his worth a shot. His a good crosser of the ball and scores from free kicks.

On a final note, Sky Sports are reporting that Deco is surplus to requirements at Barca. Moyes should try sign him for couple of mill with Naysmith going the other way.

John Holmes
2   Posted 30/06/2007 at 16:57:45

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What a load of rubbish. Why aren’t Everton spending £6.5m on Kamara or £17m on Bent? Because they’re not worth that much. They’re farcical prices for average players who we don’t need.

£4m is a good price for a decent player in Jagielka. As for Defoe and Smith, all they’ve proved at the highest level is that they’re not good enough. Why do you think Spurs and United are selling them?

Jagielka may not improve the team drastically but the common consensus is the priority is more to improve the squad alongside the first team and he will certainly do that. In my view Jagileka does both in fact because he could well turn out to be a better right-back than either of those at the club presently.

As for Shaka Islam, I REALLY hope you’re joking on the Deco front!
John Murphy
3   Posted 30/06/2007 at 17:15:27

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I am not saying that I would want us to spend 6.5 million on Kamara or 17 million on Bent because yes they are not worth them prices. I am higlighting the fact that these teams seem to be better off financially than us and are prepared to take risks and spend big. As for Defoe not being good enough, he would get into our side easily and would be an excellent addition to the team.
Tony Marsh
4   Posted 30/06/2007 at 17:40:50

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John, as soon as you dare citisize the transfer policy currently being employed by our club, you will meet hostility from those who can't or won't admit we are fucking up again.

I commented on this four weeks ago and the amount of replies defending Kenwright/Moyes was frightening. Some of our fans think it is ok to carry on like this when all around us our rivals do the buisness. This is why I fear for us next season. I hope I am wrong, I really do.
Bill Goodall
5   Posted 30/06/2007 at 17:52:29

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It?s fine to be outdone in the transfer market when those being bought are shite. They can have Bent for that amount. A blind man wouldn't pay that for Koumas. Defoe has proven he is not up to it week-in week-out.

Take the risk on Nugent who wants more than anything to play in our shirt, he will give the passion our team runs on. Defoe will cost more and will not score more. Even if Nugent scores 10 for us, that will be a good start for a 23-year-old. Add AJ's 15 (conservative with a full year) and the young guns A & V with another 15... Our midfield alone with Arteta and Cahill 15. Throw in another 10 for squad players and we have 65 goals for the year which on last season would be the second best in the league.

Maintain the good defensive combination we have which was fifth this year and we are looking at a top four. A dream, I realise... but do the figures and we aren't too far away in that regard. Fair enough the Uefa poorman's Cup will take our attention away but add a few players for another £3 million each and we have Nugent and squad players for £12 million and a better squad.

Mike Oates
6   Posted 30/06/2007 at 18:18:58

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The Spurs argument is one which is totally out of order. Facts are that their income must be at least twice ours:

(i) Spurs: 30 home games (Prem, Cups, Uefa), Av gate 36000, Av ticket price £45 = £49M,
Everton: 22 home games, Av gate 36,000, Av Ticket Price £30 = £23M

(ii) Corporate Boxes: Spurs 120
Everton 10? Difference in Revenue? £4-5M

(iii) Shirt Sponsorship: Mansion = £8M , Chan = £3M

Total: Spurs = £62M , Everton = £26M

Sad comments but if we get into Europe, get a new ground, put prices up to London prices, then we can start to compete.

We are still on the journey, with Europe and ground, but let's hope to god we don't ever persue the London prices...
David Barks
7   Posted 30/06/2007 at 18:26:57

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Right, how could Fulham pay 6.5 Million on Kamara? That is a terrible bit of tranfer business on their part as it is a total waste of money on a player who is nowhere near worth that much. And why do you say we’re terrified to spend more than 4 million on a player? Who told you this? We spent 8.5 Million on AJ last year and 5 Million on Lescott. Everton spend the money when the player is worth it, but will not throw away millions on sub par championship quality footballers. Also, I know you didn’t say this but I keep seeing it by the people on this site: don’t sign Man United rejects. Just because a player leaves United do to lack of first team opportunities does not make them shite. Smith is a good striker and would improve our team. He lost his spot due to injury, but he plays with the passion that us Evertonians and Moyes demand from the players. Howard was "rejected" from United but has shown that he is absolute quality. And Neville has done a good job for us playing at any position needed. So we currently have two United "rejects" in our team who were major contributors to our success this season. Where would we have been with Wright in goal this season?
Gavin Ramejkis
8   Posted 30/06/2007 at 18:59:05

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Another to add to the difference at Spurs was a share release which watered down ownership of the club but raised a pretty packet on the stock exchange and helped them build a pretty impressive squad with the likes of Lennon etc, something that was hinted at for EFC but Billy Bullshitter didnt fancy giving anything away so it didnt happen.
Connor Rohrer
9   Posted 30/06/2007 at 18:46:43

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I think it is right for David Moyes to not overbid for players such as Bent and Kamara. But we must start spending over the £5 million mark. What I hate most about the rumours are they are all mostly British players. We need flair and technical ability ? not hardworking journeymen. We have two players who are actually technically gifted in Arteta and AvdM. Van der meyde is obviously on his way out so that leaves us with Arteta. Sure he is class but if teams stop him then where does the creativity come from?

When Fernandes came, it took a big burden of Mikel?s shoulders. I was actually very excited to go and watch them two in the same side but now that will not happen. Don't get me wrong, we will sign players but it is the quality I am worried about. Moyes needs to look further than the Premier League, Championship and Scottish League because there is much more out there. Spain, Portugal, France and the Americas are the places to go if we want to improve.

Signings like Jagielka will improve us in terms of making us hard to beat but we need to focus on our play in the last third. People have critised the likes of Johnson but when was the last time he was one-on-one with the keeper? Most of our goals came from set-pieces and deflections last season and this needs to be improved.

Everyone moaned last season about our hoof ball play and then we get Fernandes on loan: a player of skill, flair, precise passing and a real football brain... and what do people do? Critise him just because David Moyes does. And yes Moyes is the manager but we see him just as much in competitve matches and from where I was watching he was in the top three players every game he played.

People have to start being realistic. Do we want to improve or just continue to have large amounts of mediocre and small amounts of success. I still do not believe we are a top-six side. Sure we will get there every few years but stabalised we are not. We still have not shrugged of the tag of a yo-yo team.

Tom Morris
10   Posted 30/06/2007 at 19:22:08

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Hang on, didn?t we spend £8.5M on Andy Johnson last summer? Have you forgotten that. Didn?t we waste £6M on Jmes Beattie a couple of seasons ago? What does Fulham spending £6.5M on player who patently isn?t worth it have to do with anything?

Come on Moyes, just lash a shitload of cash at someone, anyone, regardless of whether we need them or not!
Michael Nuttall
11   Posted 30/06/2007 at 19:34:46

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Calm done, everyone.

Go to Betfair.com and click on forum/soccer/everton and go to mails starting 30/06/07. The bloke is very well informed (told us the Johnson deal 3 days before it was announced). Give them to the end of next week at least. I wish some people wouldnt be so bloody negative
Richard Dodd
12   Posted 30/06/2007 at 19:41:47

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Reading the total rubbish that the ?spend, spend, spend? merchants post on this site, doesn?t it just make you glad that it?s Blue Bill and Davey who run our club? It?s as though throwing money around guarantees anything in this game. Everton are showing that there?s other ways to do the job. Just have some patience ? please!
Gavin Ramejkis
13   Posted 30/06/2007 at 20:33:31

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Doddy, how much has your beloved BK thrown Terry Tesco?s way? How much has Terry Tesco thrown BK?s and Buster?s way?

Out of interest, isn?t it Tesco who are building a big store as part of the Gt Homer Street regeneration project? How come we can?t fit a stadium into this? Perhaps it has something to do with the stadium sweetening the deal to expand Tesco into Knowsley ? Terry Tesco works for them first after all, and not us.

Before anyone says the transport links aren?t viable down half-a-mile of dual-carriageway from Goodison Park, then how do they explain 70k transport links for satan?s den in Stanley Park?

Ryan Sloan
14   Posted 30/06/2007 at 21:13:05

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Why does everyone want moyes to go out and spend large amounts on over-rated/hyped players? We have the best Everton team for years. We're in Europe... what more do you want? I am sick of the moaners ? get behind the team.
Keith Menzies
15   Posted 30/06/2007 at 20:51:55

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The fact is we have to spend because we need players.

David Moyes, mid-last season, admitted our squad is way too small and since then we have released Kilbane, Wright, Pistone. We have two other players who look to have put on the shirt for the last time, AVDM and Beattie. Naysmith?s position also looks tenuous as he?s been mentioned as a candidate for part-ex.

It may be that we?ll only sign players for larger fees if we can get fees for or exchange one or two of these, which doesn?t actually add to squad numbers.

As well as doing our best to bring through more quality youngsters, who are unlikely to contribute to many games in the coming season, we need proven quality now. Quality players cost money. I can?t see us getting numbers and quality for the rather paltry (in todays terms) outlay of £12m.

What other ways are Everton showing to do the job? Most of our successful signings have not been cheap. A few have been expensive flops, Beattie, Wright, Kroldrup. (£15m-ish?) So throwing money appears necessary but as RD says doesn?t guarantee success. Hopefully we can throw the money in the right place but I think not spending will guarantee failure.

Moyes has a tough couple of months ahead.
Shaka Islam
16   Posted 01/07/2007 at 00:52:38

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John I was taking the piss regarding the Deco situation but he is surplus to requirements at Barca.
Derek Thomas
17   Posted 01/07/2007 at 06:35:39

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The only reasons that Spurs can do this is that they have the money and the fact that they are in London and only SEEM bigger by this association with tha Capitol. They did nothing before Bill Nicholson and havn’t done as much as us since he left. If they were anywhere else except London, they would be Yo-Yo’s like B’
ham S’land. Don’t fret about it.
Clive Brennan
18   Posted 01/07/2007 at 09:51:25

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Hold onto your hats, lads. Re-inforcements are at hand! Richard Wright?s next-door neighbour told me at Chester races yesterday that ?Careless Hands? is very close to signing a new deal at Everton although he?s having to take a massive cut in wages. Who said Moyes was wasting the summer?
patty blue
19   Posted 01/07/2007 at 11:07:19

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No John... this is down to two things .... having more money to spend on players because their owners are a lot richer than Kenwright and being able to pay much higher wages than EFC.

Even though we are a "small" club compared to Liverpool FC [ said tongue in cheek fellow blues] their backers have so much money they can afford to pay £27 million for one player i.e. Torres. We will never be in that position
Peter Cash
20   Posted 01/07/2007 at 10:26:54

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Wouldn?t be at all surprised, Clive. Dickie presented the trophies at my son?s club at the end of last season and told me then ?it wasn?t necessarilly good-bye.? No doubt they?ll tell us it?s just like making a new signing!
Franny Porter
21   Posted 01/07/2007 at 12:53:51

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Listen, I've just been told by Alan Irvine's next door neighbour's uncle's third cousin twice removed that we are close to concluding deals for Dick Wright, Pistone, Stuart Barlow, Dave Hickson and Billy Kenny. You didnt hear it from me, right!
PS: Brett Angel has recently quit his job in Somerfields. Knowworamsayinlike!
Brian Waring
22   Posted 01/07/2007 at 20:35:10

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For them people saying no-one is buying players yet. Where do you get that from?
  • Portsmouth 3 signings
  • Newcastle 3 signings with Geremi almost signed,
  • Boro 2 new strikers,
  • West Ham 2 signings.
Us, a big zilch! I chose these teams because you would expect them to be up there with us this season, and they have already got a head start.

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