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Nothing but the best, Bill...?

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Reading a lot of the mail bag comments with interest... Bill Kenwright's silence is deafening. I'd like to think he now knows that his once unquestionable tenure is under serious threat from the very people who have paid for the upkeep of this club for the past 12 years.

Two cup final appearances and a handful of top 6 finishes is disgusting in 22 years ? that's a fact.

I'm not saying I'd want to be taken over by any Tom, George or Harry but, for God's sake, any Evertonian who is still siding with this Master of Bullshit needs to wake up. This man has not had the decency to come out and defend himself against the growing frustration against him. Blue Bill, The People's Club and all that other crap he has come out with is tiresome now. It's been 25 years since we were a big club and a big team. We didn't move with the times 15 years ago and we still haven't yet.

This man must answer questions and produce a 3- or 5-year plan. What is it? Where are we headed? What clubs have gone under from being taken over? ? none. We need to speculate to accumulate and I've no doubt the cautious amongst you will disagree completely.

It's excitement and anticipation the fans want, not the same excuses for being skint and mediocre year after year. Give it to them, Bill. Let go of your toy and enjoy retirement.

I'm in no doubt there are buyers out there who have been silenced regarding asking price, conditions of sale etc etc. We need change desperatly, we need to take a risk in order to progress; for me, it's blatantly obvious and I'd be willing to take it if it meant we stood any kind of chance of bringing back the mid-80s success.

If it's another 25 years of this then, in the words of Peter Jones & Co... "I cannot invest in this ridiculous business... and for that reason, I'm out".

Phil Burkert, Kirkby     Posted 09/08/2011 at 14:05:46

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Tony J Williams
1   Posted 09/08/2011 at 16:15:04

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Whilst I agree he is a dope with too little money and a shite business sense, I have to ask why should he come out and placate the fans hunger for information?

He has to answer to the board and the banks, where does it state that he has to tell us, the fans, anything?

We all pay money into the club, I also pay a lot of money into a little wine shop by the Tai Pan, does that mean I can question his buisness model? Or see his accounts?

I want Kenwright out but I can't have a go at him for his silence, because basically he doesn't have to say shit to us if he doesn't want to.
Michael Byrne
2   Posted 09/08/2011 at 16:20:58

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Just to say that I think Portsmouth came pretty damn close to going under after being taken over!!
Jimmy Sorheim
3   Posted 09/08/2011 at 16:22:13

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I dont know if you have noticed but Kenwright has NO plan, not five years from now or ten years from now. Now I belive he is holding out for a qulity takeover but there just isnt any. These finacial times are tough and we are not a well run club so that doesnt help either. I suggest we start collecting money on matchdays so that we can buy a player come january. This way we will surely see something new. Dont think it will happen though and if we were able to collect in money almost all of it would go back to debt payment. So just buckle your seatbelt cause Kenwright is here for the long haul. Until he is theathend out of the club like turkish people do.
Chris Bannantyne
4   Posted 09/08/2011 at 17:01:58

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By the letter of the law Kenwright might not HAVE to tell us anything, but decency says he SHOULD.

The fans ARE the business. If he wishes to keep fans, then he has to make them happy.

Whether keeping the fans happy means selling certain items and memorabilia, competing for trophies, organising meat and greets between fans and players, stocking more coke and less diet coke on match days, or (in this case) answering some questions that the fans desperately want answered, then it will be in the clubs best interests to do their best to do so.

In short, if the fans are unhappy then you will start losing them. If you start losing your fans then business goes bad (or in our case - worse).

If Kenwright can placate the supporters by giving some honest answers to some reasonable questions (and I do believe they ARE reasonable questions) then I really think there is no good reason not to do so.
Trevor Mackie
5   Posted 09/08/2011 at 17:01:18

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The problem I see with Bill is the Kirkby fiasco - he appears to have gambled all on this toss of a coin - possibly he had people lined up to invest in, or flog the club to, based upon that gamble - and it didn't happen.

He's vanished since, I don't know if he's sulking, ruing the loss of a personal jackpot or is hiding because the hideous truth of this failure has yet to be revealed.

Various noted incidents of incompetence - "Gosling", "Park End Development", "tranfers (lack of)" suggest he lacks the ability regardless of money and should resign.
Tony J Williams
6   Posted 09/08/2011 at 17:25:47

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If only that was true Chris, I'm affraid the ticket money is not the same as the $ky money coming in, so he wants to be well in with them and he knows us mugs will still come the game because it is in our blood.

I have tried to give it up but came back like the Everton junkie I am
Stephen Kenny
7   Posted 09/08/2011 at 17:50:57

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To think that, despite his actions with regard to Kings Dock and the FSF, there have been numerous points throughout his tenure when he could have left almost as a hero amongst the majority with the goodwill of a large percentage of our fanbase.

Had he sold when we were flying relatively high, his name may have been a positive footnote in our history and he could have been known as the guy who saved us from oblivion, however fanciful that notion is.

Instead, he may well be the man who brought one of the greatest institutions in British sporting history to it's knees.
Martin Handley
8   Posted 09/08/2011 at 20:51:05

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On another note despite Spurs statements to the contrary there is a very real chance that the game on Saturday as well as every other football match in the capital ,could be called off for fear of further civil unrest,what a sad state of affairs,I think that every fair minded person on this website would like to pass their best wishes on to the innocent victims of the riots down there and every where else in the country thats been affected.
Simon Harris
9   Posted 09/08/2011 at 20:48:59

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Tony, BK was positively courting the camera when things went well, and was 'proud as punch' to share in his fellow Evertonian's joy.

So I don't think It's unreasonable to expect our Evertonian chairman to show us he's in control of the situation and has a plan to quell the unrest.

Stop sending Elstone and Ross out and show some leadership.

Everyday that goes by just reaffirms the belief he doesn't have a plan, has no respect for his once fellow Evertonians and moves the club a step closer to implosion.

Brian Waring
10   Posted 09/08/2011 at 21:38:17

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Tony, I agree BK doesn't need to come out and tell us anything. (I'm made up when he keeps his fucking mouth shut.) But there is unrest amongst the locals, and this is one of those times when he needs to come out and say something.
Tony J Williams
11   Posted 09/08/2011 at 21:56:23

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Simon, Brian, Kenwright doesn't believe that there is unrest, he is living in la la land and the dope at the Echo suggests that it is a miniscule minority who want him gone.

The fella hasn't a clue, he will roll himself out the next time we get to Wembley... by roll I mean in his wheelchair, as it won't happen anytime soon.
James Brand
12   Posted 09/08/2011 at 22:23:39

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I don't think he's THAT stupid... he knows he has no public credibility now so he's "damned if does, damned if he doesn't" (what's the point of making a public statement for all us feral lot to crucify him over)...

His game plan is this: whilst Moyes is in charge, he's safe. We have a relatively strong STARTING eleven with a few gems (assets to BK) on the horizon. Whilst the above is in existence, he'll keep schtum! Mid-table mediocrity is good for him ("7th is like CL remember!")

You'll be surprised how much information is fed back to him... it amazes me when people say that "they don't know what we think etc"... they do... they just choose to do nothing about it (but the club are fully aware as to the growing unrest and are already planning for potential outcomes...)

Simon Bradley
13   Posted 09/08/2011 at 22:54:23

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ffs..he/they DO have a business plan, but a. it's not as exciting as you/any of us would like it to be, and b. as someone said earlier, he/they have no need to tell us what it is. However, my guess it involves having to balance excess expenditure over income, and making do with what we have. Bringing through young talent to improve the team wherever possible, and trying not to have to sell that talent until absolutely necessary. There y'go....that's their business plan. How would you like to see it improved based on current finances.....?
Jamie Sweet
14   Posted 09/08/2011 at 23:19:37

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I really want to know what happened in the meeting between Moyes and BK at the end of last season. Moyes claimed he was going to sit down with his chairman and talk about how they were going to take the club forward.

Now I?m pretty sure Bill wouldn?t have said to Moyes that he was going to give him absolutely nothing to spend? that he couldn?t get 150k together for a back-up keeper, or that he couldn?t even bring in free agents because we can?t afford the wages. But that seems to be the truth of the matter.

Unfortunately, it would seem that his lap-dog Moyes is putting up with this crap yet again. How can we start another Premier League campaign with the same depleted and sub-standard strike-force we finished with last year?

What happened to doing business early? I?m still pretty sure that we will bring in at least one new face, but probably some no-mark who no-one else wanted, drafted in on August 31st after a typically shite start to the campaign.

Our Chairman and his lack of any kind of plan to take our club forward is an absolute disgrace. Our managers apparent acceptance of the status-quo is also pretty shameful in my book.
Chris Matheson
15   Posted 09/08/2011 at 23:32:52

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James at No 12...that is a very interesting final statement you make:

"(but the club are fully aware as to the growing unrest and are already planning for potential outcomes...) "

Can I ask, how do you know that the club are aware? I mean we can assume they must be aware, but is there proof? What potential outcomes are they planning for, and what do those plans entail?
Dennis Stevens
16   Posted 09/08/2011 at 23:30:50

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I don't think that's quite right, Simon. It seems, from what little information that has emanated from the club since the demise of DK, that the plan is to rely on Moyes to maintain the club's status in the top flight pending a 'DK Mk II', thereby leading to the implementation of the Board's exit strategy.
Brendan McLaughlin
17   Posted 09/08/2011 at 23:35:57

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Jamie #14
Why is it pretty shameful Jamie? Moyes signed up for another five years knowing there would be precious little money to spend. Suprise, suprise there has been very little to spend! What do you want Moyes to do?
Tony J Williams
18   Posted 09/08/2011 at 23:54:51

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What crap has Moyes been fed?...it's not a big secret that we have no money. Everyone knows it, so why would a fella, who is intelligent enough to broker a whopping pay rise, have the wool pulled over his eyes thinking that Kenwrong would actually magic up some funds for him?
Jamie Sweet
19   Posted 10/08/2011 at 01:39:18

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Brendan, if you had read the statement from Moyes that I was referring to, then you would know what I'm on about. Moyes was pretty much making out that he was going to demand a bit of financial support from the board. He spoke of freshening things up and taking the club forward.

If he was actually just going into BK's office to sit, lie down, roll over and get his tummy tickled by our chairman and not a lot else, then he shouldn't have made out he was going to do anything to the contrary!

He should have just said that he was going to sit down with Uncle Bill and work out how they are going to operate on a net spend of fuck all. "Just make out that Anichebe kid is the next big attacking sensation, that should keep the idiots happy for a bit longer".

Everyone at the top is just far too comfortable and seemingly happy with aiming for mediocrity. It's a very sad day when our fans start to accept it too.
Mike Hargreaves
20   Posted 10/08/2011 at 03:01:36

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Well here we go again, is he that bad in business from Corrie actor to West End mogul and a football club. The trouble is he only has millions not billions. How many fans would pay treble ticket prices for a season to buy new players? ... I guess not many, so if we don't want to throw good money away, why should he? EFC is a business and has to balance the books and how big is the resentment for him outside ToffeeWeb. Even on TW there may be only 200 to 300 posts out of 40,000 ticket buyers.
Danny Biddle
21   Posted 10/08/2011 at 07:41:19

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I can't blame the guy for saying nothing. everything he say's ends up going tits up!

Last thing i remember him saying publically was the Yobo deal was 48hrs from being done! The bloke seems to be cursed regarding everything Everton!
Phil Burkert
22   Posted 10/08/2011 at 08:48:03

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Simon, myself, I'd like to see it changed by taking a risk. I beleive there ARE a number of potential investors who have been turned down and silenced. "Not right for the club" or "Not right for Bill Kenwright's pension"?

If we took a risk on one of these potential investors at least that would provide me and probably tens of thousands of others with a glimmer of hope. As it stands right now, and for the almost the past two decades, theres has been none, or very little.

I understand the balancing act he has to perform, Im not daft. However, how long can this balancing act be sustained? We nurture a decent kid, we sell them - we are SELLING club, fact. Do you want that for the next 25 years or however long BK can palm us off with "wrong investors", sob stories, "done deals" etc??

I'd prefer to take a risk on a potential investor, I believe we should have done it years ago and perhaps we wouldnt be where we are today. Im sure the majority would disagree with me and want to remain cautious...we'll be okay in the end. I dont think we will if Im brutally honest and I dont see our situation getting any better under kenwirght and the current board. I beleive they have a duty to us fans that they are woefully not fulfilling. Answers, direction, financial commitment and promises (not false) or get out and let us try and recover with someone who can at least try and take us to the next level. For me it is that simple.
Chris Matheson
23   Posted 10/08/2011 at 08:51:55

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Mike you are right, nobody should blame Kenwright for not being a millionaire. And nobody doubts he supports Everton. But you ask the question, if we can't out money in, why should he? It is a fair question so let's turn it round: If he won't put investment in, why should anyone else - and leave him on the Board?

Now here's the thing. Every time he has tried to find "investment", ie somebody else's money, it has been fantasy or so badly concenceived/managed that it has gone tits up. I won't list the failures here, again.

He does have to balance the books, and has done this by selling players without buying new ones, seling off other assets such as Bellfield, and mortgaging everything else. Everything. He should be trying to grow and expand the business, instead he is shrinking it.

So he admits he has to sell. It is possible that there has been no interest. I doubt that very much (but have no evidence for that doubt). Indeed I think BK has said that he has had several "investors" but they have all walked away. Why have they lost interest...is the price he is asking too high, is he demanding that he remains on the Board or in the Chair? Or are his previous "investors" pulling the strings and over-valuing the club in order to maximise their own return, and since they support another club, not really caring about the efffect it has on Everton?

You ask a valid question about his support amongst the fans. I don't know how much support he has got, but I have definitely detected much greater opposition to him recently.
Peter Laing
24   Posted 10/08/2011 at 11:07:16

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I would suggest that Kenwright is hurting from the very few comments that he has made during the summer. I heard an interview with him on Radio City Sport when he was questioned regarding the honorary award that he has received from Liverpool University. The tone of his voice cut what would appear or would want to appear as a very folorn figure. What I cannot understand is if Kenwright is true to his word and wishes to dispose of his controlling stake in the club then how much is the valuation ? Surely that cannot be comercially sensitive information. If I put my house on the market tomorrow I would have a price in mind based upon the properties assets etc etc, this would be validated by an estate agent and hey presto I would have a marketable sale value. If Kenwright was open and transparent he would answer the questions that are being asked of him by Blue union, that would be a start.
Brian Lawlor
25   Posted 10/08/2011 at 11:25:45

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Changing the subject slightly, it seems that this so called "list of top clubs queuing up for his signature" unsurprisingly doesn't actually exist and Joey Barton looks set to remain at Newcastle.

They couldn't even give him away. I would suggest his reputation and ridiculous wages have detracted any potential buyers.
Stephen Leary
26   Posted 10/08/2011 at 14:43:07

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When was the last time Kenwright adressed us fans over the goings on at the club? Will he ever tell us what plan he has, or where the club will be in five years time? We haven't made a single money signing in two years, and even then the only reason we signed, Bily, Distin and Heitinga was that we sold Lescott to City.

If you even remember to the season before that, the Yak and Screech were only brought in because Mcfadden and Johnson had been sold. My point is we haven't made a purchase in god knows when without having to sacrafice a player or two, and has Kenwrong even put any of his own money in?

It's shite basically, just totally shite: two years, no cash signings, for a club that was in the top five and six, for five seasons and in that time on two occasion's just seven and eight points of fourth. We have been close in Europe too, losing on penalties and FA Cup finalists, we have gone so far back now because the club has stood still and not made progression when we needed to and should have.

Thanks, Blue Bill, why don't you just fuck of if you really love the club? Resign as your clearly not good enough for the job, we could then get an advisor type figure in to properly sell the club, and get an owner in with fucking ambition and ideas.

I'm not wanting or hoping for a billionare necessarily, I just want an owner with business acumen and a forward thinking plan for our great club, not somebody who clearly has no vision, and business ideas, and selfishly holds onto our club, like a spoilt child.

We all know his many failure's the King's Dock, Kirkby, no plan when we came 4th etc, its time you walked Bill for the good of the club, time is up, we are going nowhere with you in charge, please please just GO!!!!

Robert Daniels
27   Posted 10/08/2011 at 15:06:05

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People keep saying it's not his fault he's not a billionaire... quite right.

People also say, he hasn't found the right investor or billionaire to take over... quite wrong.

Paul Gregg offered Bill the Kings Dock on a plate, backed by our very own billionaire Lord Granchester.

The one thing he says he seeks, he could've had.

He's a liar.
Paul Lally
28   Posted 10/08/2011 at 15:02:36

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Kenwright believed, somehow, that Kirkby was our future.
All eggs in one basket with no plan B.
Sir Philip Green is the puppeteer.
I believe our priority must be, to expose Greens involvement and the hold he seems to have over Kenwright and our club.
COYB
Dave Lynch
29   Posted 10/08/2011 at 15:38:46

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Paul @ 27.
When have the words Kenwright and plan ever been synonamous.
Ste Traverse
30   Posted 10/08/2011 at 15:47:29

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Kenwright is simply on on ego trip,always has been. With him it's 'oh look at me,I'm the Everton Chairman,aren't I powerful'.

I firmly believe he'd sooner take this club down than give up his beloved niche.

He has to be be removed at any cost before he does any further damage.

Our great club deserves a better Chairman/Owner than this useless chancer and fantasist.
Graham Smith
31   Posted 10/08/2011 at 21:56:29

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Shortly after Kenwright took over from Johnson there was a link on the official website to send questions to ask of anyone at the club. I sent one to Kenwright asking him were he saw us being in five years time. As of yet I am still waiting for a reply.
Derek Thomas
32   Posted 11/08/2011 at 08:32:24

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Peter Laing #24...He sounded Forlorn...aw didums, he is by trade an ACTOR ffs.

He did and does pretend to be what he isn't for a living.

He puts on shows and the main way he does this...and it has mostly been ever thus in the Theatre...He convinces backers, called ' Angels' in the venacular, to put up the readies, for a possible return if it does more than 60% bums on seats, plus a chance to mingle with with the 'stars'...The smell of the crowd the roar of the greasepaint.

Bullshitter doesn't get anyhere near it.
Stuart Ennis
33   Posted 12/08/2011 at 22:53:21

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I cannot understand why we have no money, for any players to come to to the club for free or otherwise .The questions I would like to ask Bill Kenwright are:

While he has been in charge, Swansea City, who are new to the Premier League have spent nearly £10 million while nearly going bust 4 or 5 years ago whilst Everton haven't spent a thing so surely this is totally mismanagement of the finances in this period?

Next Question: Bill Kenwright continually tells everyone that he is trying to sell the club 24/7 and nobody has come up with the money or is fit and proper to take over the club, so why doesn't he have a share issue?

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