Season 2011-12
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Talk to us, David Moyes!
I have seen more and more articles about fans who have taken notice of Moyes`s deafening silence throughout this pre-season, starting from the week after the Chelsea game. Now this could be a sign of many things:
1. He is protesting against Kenwright's lack of funding;
2. He is giving the loud supporters the silent treatment as he can't bare any criticism;
3. All of the above... plus he is trying to do exactly the opposite of what he did last season because he has seen what a blunder it was going out and giving false high hopes to the fans and players.
I don't know what his reasons are for treating us this way, but we are the supporters, the backbone of this club, the glue that holds this club together. Look around you and try to find any other Premier League manager who does the same thing. You can't, because every other manager would never be that stupid, as when you apply the silent treatment for a long period of time, you will surely lose as the supporters will stand up and pressure the board to sack you.
Now I ask all of you: Is Moyes that much of a god that he does not need to talk to the fans at all ? or the press?
My answer is No, but I belive he gets away with murder just because of what he has done in the past!
Will you be able to forget all about this bad behavior? Perhaps, if he gets us back into Europe again, we could all forget about it and forgive him... but, if we were to fight relegation, as we surely will, following no new players coming in, we then would cry out for Moyes to get the sack.
I strongly believe this season to be make or break for this club's future; if we don't reach Europe this season, we will lose Fellaini for sure, plus we would have to sell Rodwell or Jagielka to not go bust. I am trying to stay a positive towards Moyes and our future but Moyes is making that very difficult right now.
To go back to this season, I hope Moyes will start using Gueye and Barkley like he did with Coleman last year. This will be very important to give the first team some fresh blood and some new ideas when it comes to the passing which is poor and a new formation to find places for both Beckford and Saha.
It remains to be seen, but I hope he does try something brand new, because without this we will be relying too much on Arteta and Fellaini.
I hope we can start focusing on football again now, Mr David Moyes.
Jimmy Sorheim, Posted 11/08/2011 at 21:21:39
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What I mean by this is due to our inactivity and lack of any news positive or negative our club is completely of the radar. No one is expecting anything at all from Everton this year. So silence is a virtue I suppose especially when you have nothing of any note to say!
This is the same bunch of players that Moyes came out about so positively last year. He raised expectations and failed to deliver. By staying silent this year there is no pressure both in the eyes of the media and the majority of the crowd. The few dissenters may make some noise but by and large most Blues I speak to are moderately happy. So
For me Moyes will be judged on how the team starts. If we get of to a flyer then everyone will forgive the silence or even attribute this as another Moyes masterstroke.
What I mean by this is due to our inactivity and lack of any news positive or negative our club is completely of the radar. No one is expecting anything at all from Everton this year.
This is the same bunch of players that Moyes came out about so positively last year. He raised expectations and failed to deliver. By staying silent this year there is no pressure both in the eyes of the media and the majority of the crowd. The few dissenters may make some noise but by and large most Blues I speak to are moderately happy. So silence is a virtue I suppose especially when you have nothing of any note to say!
What happened to his " I want to do my business early and have a plan to take to the board" statement?
Also the spurs cancellation wont hinder Moyes plans for the game because we all know he would play the same team and tactics wether it be spurs or Fleetwood that we come up against. Spineless sell out of a man.
There was a lot of speculation that he would walk if he was not given the funds to strengthen the team.
Well he has really shown what he is made of, NOT A SINGLE WORD,NO CRITICISM OF BLUE BILL,NOTHING.
And people wonder why fans of 40 years plus are choosing to stay away.
In my opinion he is worse than Kenwright he can do something about it but lacks the bottle so it seems.
Imagine Dogleish,Harry Boy or Fergie putting up with this shit. But never mind IMWT, Not.
We struggled for goals last season due to being light up front and we'll struggle again this season. With Coleman's injury we also face of a couple of month's with the prospect of Ossie and Anichebe being our wide players.
I suspect that saying nothing at all about anything may be one way of making what is know as a "silent protest".
I hope so at least.
Meanwhile, I agree with Eric at No 1. Moyes infuriates me with his negative style but the root of our problems is Kenwright. Get him out now.
4. He's getting on with his job like a good professional and doesn't feel the need like many of his counterparts at other clubs to mouth off to the press every other day?
Moyes has always struck me as being unusually dignified and ego-free for a manager, and has never been one for self-publicism, and that's the way I'd like it to stay. We're Everton, after all, not Kopites.
The vast majority of match-going fans don't support Moyes because of what he does or doesn't say in public ? they support him because he does a great job in what must be at times trying circumstances.
I couldn't give a shit ? this season sucks and it's not even started. Fucking Stoke have more clout in the transfer market than us... great!!!!
Spot on Robert.
It's Kenwright's silence and unwillingness to answer ANY question, we should all be focusing on. Let's flush him out!
At the end of the day, he is the man at the top, or is he...........?
We all know the financial positionso the only 'story' is how that should change -? not Moyes's responsibility...
Sports media is full of non-stories and glib comment. Some fans get nervous when nothing's heard but to me it's a change from media-related football bullshit.
Let's start with the footy please. I'm getting tired of the unjustified criticism of Moyes.
What do you expect him to say? There is nothing to talk about regarding transfers so why should he talk about it?
Gutted the match is called off, would have given us something else to talk about. Looks like were stuck with this same old shite for a while.
We were told there was money for signings, and Moyes would be looking to get them in early.
It's a school of thought you should try, Jimmy. Your article is "poor and boring."
Lee Mandaracas - very well said.
He made the statement that he would like to do business early to get new players bedded in followed by Elstone's claim that the manager would have a transfer budget (which he didn't say would be £0).
He also stated he would sit down with the board with his plans to go forward.
One can only assume he is fed up being ridiculed by making statements of something happening only for the board to sit on their arses.
It seems to me that Green wants his pound of flesh back and that is badly affecting our finances.
The sooner "smoke and mirrors" man is run out of town, the sooner we can make proper plans to reconstruct our club.
Not sure what Billy Bullshit said but Moyes didn't say there was money for transfers.
Jimmy, what should Moyes come out and say? That he had a conversation with Kenwright and it was confirmed that we were skint? Great news that and nothing we don't already know.
Apart from that dickhead 'Awwy, what other manager has come out and said anything newsworthy? I can't think of any. The only stories I can remember is Wenger moaning about Barcelona not offering enough for Fabregas and then the next thing offers us a pittance for Jags... oh and the muppet across the park trying to buy every English player that shows a modicum of talent... and Enrique.
Maybe Moyes has nothing to say so isn't saying anything.
I admit this would be a rare thing in the modern world of pointless and shameless self-promotion, but maybe our manager is a guy who's happy just to get on with things behind the scenes.
I cannot believe that we have scouts on the payroll and that we allow our manager and players to trot off to Oz and the States each pre-season enjoying 'holidays' abroad while no new blood is brought in. We have at least four or five senior players who will need replacing over the next two seasons yet we bring a kid named Dier ? or should that read DIRE ? here on loan!!!
I am quite prepared to see the same faces sent out on loan again whilst our dwindling squad 'hopes' to avoid injury!! It's an appalling state of affairs and looks like we are on a slippery slope if someone does not do something to arrest the fall. I have already said that I cannot remember a period in EFC history (as I know it) when we could not compete in the transfer market and that dates back to 1948.
The thing is, BK is the man at the top and I feel he needs to come out, and if its so, tell us were skint, and there will be no - one coming in. He will probalby get stick for it, but it couldn't be any worse than he's getting now.
As fans, we all know were skint, but it would be nice to hear it from the horses mouth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDBLSUKJiDY
I agree with most of you, but as some here think he doesnt have to speak to the fans in times of trouble like we are in, I disagree.
Now you can say that as a fan there is nothing to add or say at this time, however there clearly is unrest among the supporters as showed by the decline in season ticket sales.
Now I can honestly say that I would have done things differntly then Moyes has this pre-season.
He has waited and relied fully on the sale of Yakubu and Yobo,and they have failed. He should have other ideas along with selling these two, for example he could go out in the media saying that he will listen to any bids for certain players like Rodwell and Fellaini. This would be a good plan, but because he is stubborn he has held on to two central midfielders when we really need a new striker and a new winger.
I think we are in a bad situation now because of this and I want David Moyes to tell everybody what his plans are. That is a minimum of what we deserve to know.
I am a fan of Moyes and his early work here, but he has clearly changed.
Wonder how long he will be able to cope with having no more money?
Here is something to remind everyone who we are.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_football_champions#Total_titles_won
Don't say because we put money into the club. Most aren't shareholders and as asked many times by many people, should we demand to see the landlord's accounting details and get him to explain his financial position of the pub we drink in? I put more money into that than Everton.
It's only your own wanting that makes you feel you deserve an explanation, no legal reasoning at all, just your need to be answered.
As much as you and I would like an answer, it's just tough titty mate, we are not going to get it.
Thats the one thing we have in common with the board Tony, they don't put any money in either.
What exactly would you want him to come out and say?
"Supporters are concerned at the lack of activity in the transfer market.I understand their concern but I am happy"
Supporters are concerned at the lack of activity in the transfer market. So am I.
"I earn loads of money and I don't give a flying fuck what the supporters think"
or how about"Times are tough. I can understand why supporters are worried about investing in season tickets. All I can say is we will endeavour to make it money well spent£
"I know how you feel"
David, anything, fucking anything that will make the club look any less inept than it does.
As a sidenote, Moyes did exchange a few words with fans at the Bury game, he just can't be arsed with the press as he literally has nothing to tell them, no new players, not a hope in hell of any new players and a disappearing act by the Chairman, nothing new on any counts.
When you hear managers in the summer it is normally about potential transfers and as every man and his dog knows we have no money so there is unlikely to be any transfers .
As Gavin says Moyes said don't believe anything about transfers until you hear it from me. Moyes has not said anything so i doubt anything is taking place with regards transfers. So there is nothing for him to say on that front.
If Moyes came out and said "look we have no money but we are going to try our best for you this season". would that help in anyway? It certainly wouldnt help me as it is not going to get us the striker or winger that we need.
I really don't think if Moyes comes out and says anything its really going to make people any more optimistic or appease any of the fans.
Everyone can see quite clearly the situation we are in i dont think we need Moyes to come out and tell us what we can all see for ourselves already.
If he was not doing any interviews and not speaking much during the actual season then i would agree that we need to hear from him, but at this moment in time i really can't see what he could come out and tell us that we don't already know.
There are other reasons for the manager to encourage the support of the fans. He needs supporters to fill up the stadium in order to help out the players. He could be fired if enough fans make noise if they feel he cant take the club any further or if they have lost all confidence in him. So you see it is not all about the legalities.
To adress what others have said:He has nothing to say because he has got no transfers planned.
Think back to the start of when Moyes took over as manager, and look at how he always told us his thinking about the future and about the young players.
He has gone mute, that is not normal for Moyes and instead we hear from his assistant and Alan Stubbs. Is that what we all want? I want to hear what moyes is planning to do, especially since we have no new players coming in. Will he start using Gueye,Barkley and Vellios more now. Maybe I am impatient but I like our manager to speak up once in a while both to the press and to the official website. He hasnt done that so far this pre-season.
"Wow, £2 million eh, told ya... let's see Davie, Joe Royle's available, and what about that Dee Hepburn, she looked OK... and Donovan... no, not Landon, the Scottish one, y'know, "Blue's the colour of me true luv's `air... dee dee dee dar.."
How in God's name have we come to this?
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1 Posted 12/08/2011 at 06:39:58
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Secondly for that reason there will be no presssure on the board to sack Moyes no matter how much the supporters call for it.
Thirdly, it's the board that need to go, if the multi millionaires that control the shares in the Club won't invest they should sell.
KENWRIGHT OUT and take Green and his cronies with you.