Season 2011-12
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The Fallout
14 Comments: After the events of this week I think that the future of this club is going to be very interesting. The next two years are going to determine whether we are on a set path towards ruin or can rise like a phoenix to where we all believe we should be.
The first point of the fallout that will affect us I think is the Blue Union meeting. It was great hearing some home truths from Bill but where is that going to lead? I think that potentially it could do us more harm than good. We knew we were skint, the players knew we were skint, but now in big neon letters, the rest of the country knows as well. To put it into perspective, if someone like Spurs want one of our players, they know they just have to offer a bit more than the valuation to force our hand. Bill admitted the banks want us to sell our players, so therefore other teams would surely force our hand over the next 12 months.
The second fallout will be the players themselves. Moyes has built a squad who in large parts are loyal to the badge (or to the wages) and therefore will stick together. Jags, Baines, Cahill, Osman, and Arteta to name a few will shun advances from other clubs to play for us. However players like Billy, Heitinga, and Fellaini are players who will want to leave. If they can get to a better team in a better position in 12 months time do you doubt they will still stay knowing nothing will change anytime soon?
Looking at it from a wider angle, Coleman, Rodwell, Barkley (in two years) are players that will be sellable assets to balance the books. These players may want to leave if the likes of United and City came in for them, just to increase their chance of success in their career. Arteta may be the other asset we are forced to sell, as his wages will become a factor in the long run if the banks do have to get involved at least.
Finally, the other massive loss we could have will be Moyes himself. He will not stay too much longer if he has no chance of progressing with our beloved club. If he is forced to sell big players then he will know it is time up at goodison. Whatever you think about his managerial ability, you cannot deny another manager would surely have panicked and sold players to 'improve' the team by now. Where Moyes will go I haven't got a clue but he will know one day when he has to walk, which could be 12 months or if we carry on and cross our fingers, the end of the contract.
The way I see our predicament is simply that the 12 years looking for a buyer has to suddenly happen in the next 12-24 months. After that, then it will be anybody's guess where the future of one of the founding clubs of this league will end up.
Chris Ashton, Posted 19/08/2011 at 18:51:32
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The question is how? Our really big money signings in recent seasons have been Bileyletdinov and Fellaini and did not some of that money come from TV revenue share outs and Prem.finishing positions?
Did Everton a few years back not hire some bigwig financial managers to control the club finances? Very little else has been spent in the big money bracket so to speak so are we so far in debt with the bank that we have no credit rating to bargain with. This is just incredible for a club like Everton.
We will pobably hold our own for a while but have little chance of competing with some other good teams for prime positions and European places. I suppose we can hope that we win the Derby matches and the occasional good result against other top 6 sides but the squad being the same as last season doesn't give us much hope for improvement this season unless there are some pleasant surprises with the fringe players much like Coleman last season.
A few minor points ladies and gents, football is quite a close knit community, the chairman all know each other, they've played at each others grounds for years, managers and agents probably know an awful lot more insider knowledge about other clubs than us mere plebs do. Is it such a surprise that a club who hasn't bought a first team player in two years might be potless? A team that loans out players but doesn't bring a single new face in, a team that sells two players yet doesn't buy or loan another player?
Finally, for a few quid ANYONE can get hold of publicly filed copies of accounts on a company detailing their financial returns, get hold of directors reports. What makes you think that companies in this day and age dont already do this for a strategic advantage against a competitor they are trying to do business with? If you had a multi million pound business with red hot accountants and legal teams wouldn't you think for one second you wouldn't consider getting some info about a competitors financial situation if you wanted to asset strip them?
The group aimed their publicity at concerned fans as they told BK they would and the offspin that the media has highlighted the content has widened the catchment area.
The worry that we have somehow blown open the situation to other clubs in the same league is a tad naive, everyone of them know we are potless, christ most of them have outbid us on players over the last few years.
What the hell. This season is it for the current squad and it's a pretty good one. Perhaps no new faces could work out for us. It is rare these days for a team to return the entire side.
The players certainly know what we do. They also know they play for one of the very, very few managers/coaches who actually matter. Let's get QPR for a start and see what happens after.
The real outcome now will be that all potential takers in the last 3 years will be queing up to buy us out.............perhaps a pipe dream !
Let's see if you're still saying the same at 5pm this afternoon after he's played 4-5-1 at home with Big Sic (er I mean VIC) on the wing.... against a team who've just been battered 4-0 (at home) in their first game....will be very interesting.
Would love nothing more than for us to put in a big performance and win...but I can't say that I'm confident.
If you seriously believe that players will agree to PAY cuts rather than move elsewhere for equal or better rewards then you really are on another planet.
Can just see it now...." Bainsey, Jags Felli...We are in financial shit but Man City, Arsenal and Chelsea are intersested in you.... any chance you'll take a wage cut and stay here...you know just cos were Everton ?"
All 3 in unison..." No problem Boss"
GET REAL WILL YOU !!
Chairman & Manager out NOW !!
My worry is that the loans last season and sales of Bellefield, Vaughan and Pienaar disappearing quickly which were far more than the £4.5m annual debt service interest. The banks sounds like they may have already tried to call us in. As unpalatable as some would feel a bank sale may be the only way to break the stranglehold of the current incumbents just as it was across the park.
Yeah but what if... nah won't happen.
This is what we are reduced to.
Yeah what if, once the window ends they can't go anywhere until Jan.
Do we have anybody in charge that could even think of that solution...and make it happen.
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by my reckoning the savings would be in the order of £ 75,000 a week. My wife has not had a pay rise for 4 years so we all have to accept it and those on 60k a week would not notice it. That equates to 4 million a year.
perhaps even Davie can join in as he is one of the highest paid managers in the league.
surely the banks would see this as a step in the right direction.. players should accept this as a sensible option in this climate.