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Live by the Cahill; Die by the Cahill

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Dear Mr. Moyes,

Any sympathy Everton fans had for your financial restraints were thrown out the window yesterday...

Our team only plays well when the pressure is off. That's a mentality which filters down from the top and can only be changed by you. If you think your tactics, team selection and substitutions yesterday are going to help you get a Champions League job then you are sadly mistaken.

Please accept the following points as a 'way forward' guide:

1) Tim Cahill should not start at home. 4-4-2 please. Even if you have to start with strikers from the Everton Academy...

2) Heitinga should only be used as a centre half. Even if it means having to pick up his toys at the end of every game...

3) Barkley should be used in the middle of the park.

4) You are setting up Jack Rodwell to fail. When he leaves he will find a manager who knows how to use him.

5) Arteta should be banned from taking set pieces.

6) When Coleman is back Neville should be no more than a squad player.

While I appreciate your loyalty to the current squad, it's obvious we need wingers. We have a lot of depth down the middle of the park. If sell-to-buy is the only route then please revive this squad. Yesterday's game was full of players who weren't worried about their spot in the team.

And finally a word for Mr Kenwright: In the real world you succeed when you combine ambition with a bit of realism. You have neither. Everton fans are divided because of the fear you and Moyes have instilled in us with regards to what lies on the other side of the wall of smoke and mirrors that the two of you have built.

Everton FC has fans all over the world and I have had the pleasure to meet them and share the Everton experience with them on all 5 continents.

This club is bigger than you and Moyes and it might have to get worse before it gets better but I can guarantee one thing: no-one will leave this ship. I only hope we can drop you off at the next port...

NSNO
Mohammed  Horoub, Dubai, UAE     Posted 21/08/2011 at 05:10:24

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John Hall
1   Posted 21/08/2011 at 06:05:33

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excellent mohammed, well said! The only problem is that you got a bit confused with Moyes and BK at the end (it was a letter to moyes remember?)
Andy Hegan
2   Posted 21/08/2011 at 07:46:39

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John@1,please reread.
Derek Thomas
3   Posted 21/08/2011 at 08:06:15

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Well put, a concise version of what some and I feel increasingly more are thinking.

Moyes has repeated Saturday's selection poor plan A, daft subs and no plan B shinaniggins too often.

He has had chances to change his methodology ( and on the odd occasion did ) but he always comes back to Keep it tight and pinch one.

All his good points, have to some extent got him and us moved on from 2002.

All his bad points however not only stop us from moving further on but are compounding all the off field problems.

Something has to give
Norman Merrill
4   Posted 21/08/2011 at 08:24:04

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Mohammed, most fans will agree with your observations, but unfortunately the man who matters is blinkered, and listening to his after match comments just confirms it.
Paul Gladwell
5   Posted 21/08/2011 at 08:24:49

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Totally agree and so do thousands of others.
People harp on about strikers being our weakness but what do you expect when they get so isolated, we have no width and Cahill is just not the answer now.
Is it any coincidence that when we had a few injurys during the turn of the year and had to play Beckford and Saha together we created so many chances and scored a few goals.
Moyes was a centre half and he manages like one, his tactics yesterday were on par with Mike walker at the start of that ill fated start to a season and how come the whole ground can see it bar him? How come every fella sitting next to you in the ground sees their arse when we bring everyone back for a corner which means when we clear it it comes straight back ?
In those ten years as manager he has knocked the confidence of most forwards we have as well as other players by playing him out of position and now he is starting it with Rodwell who got a bit of stick yesterday and it was the manger who you can blame for that.
I have been a Moyes fan and critic, he has done a good job for us, but yesterday took the biscuit, he gambled on a game we just could not afford to lose due to what has happened, even Kendall was telling him to play two up front in the Echo on Friday, but will any of these pundits criticise Moyes? Will they shite, him and the luvvie are untouchable and that shows with Moyes and his arrogance when he will never come out and say it was his fault.
After hearing the crowd yesterday though he better be careful and start delivering as the tide is starting to turn a bit.
Gary Heywood
6   Posted 21/08/2011 at 08:31:41

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Everton supporters need to do something extremely radical to remove the elites at Everton.

The die hard supporters must decide not to attend anymore home games, whether they are season ticket holders or not, until these elites are removed.

If we don't remove them soon our star players will leave,our promising youth players will be cherry-picked by the top sides, Moyes will jump ship to another premiership club and the club will go into the Championship and maybe free fall.
I don't expect a billionaire will ever come in and buy Everton. We need an incredible piece of luck for that to happen, eg, a major property/land business involves us in a development or a Commonwealth Games stadium is built in the city.

What I would like to see in these desperate times is for the historical wealth of our club to come together and take over our club. I want to see ex players,managers and elites who have a genuine passion for our club make a stand rather than watch their club just die.

Lewis Barclay
7   Posted 21/08/2011 at 08:50:06

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Well put Mohammed.
I was trying to be optimistic for the most part, but the last seven days has broken that optimism down!

I wouldn't be surprised if Moyes doesn't repeat what Alex Mcleish did last year! Win the carling cup, get us relegated and then jump ship to Tottenham when Harry leaves.

That's not a dig at Moyes either.
Adam Baig
8   Posted 21/08/2011 at 09:37:44

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Well put Mohammed. I think Moyes escapes criticism in the media all too easily, even after yesterdays debacle, the pundits response was 'at least they have good old Davey to turn things around'.

I think that Moyes' biggest problem is his allegiance to certain players, and his insistence in finding a place for them. Its ok taking ten back for corners if you have people to bring the ball out when you win it -not hoof it up to the half way line wait for the next wave!

Everything about the current Everton is stale and predictable, right down to Moyes saying we will do well to finish top 10, and a newly promoted side beating us at home. He even tried his trusted 4-6-0 formation yesterday against a side that shipped 4 last week to Bolton.

Its gonna be a long season.....
Lee Gorre
9   Posted 21/08/2011 at 09:41:05

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Yesterday was a disgrace of a performance for so many reasons, but out of everthing, here's a few things that continually grate with me:

1. Why are we never prepared for a season? Why do we have to go to the USA every summer to prepare. We are never going to play in the heat or humidity of that country, team spirit can just as easily (and more cheaply!) bond closer to home.
2. Why do we always bring every player back for a corner? In the last 5 mins yesterday, QPR got a corner, we brought everyone back, they had just 2 players in the box. we had a corner in injury time and they left one up (incidentally Barkley was one of the players who stayed back).
3. Why does every team that comes to Goodison these days play better and more cohesive football than us?
4. Why does Moyes feel the need to talk down our prospects every year (except the positive stance last season)? In a week that has been disturbing and disheartening, for him to come out and say we would struggle to break the top 10 inspires non-one - fans or players. What was to be gained from saying it?
Steve Guy
10   Posted 21/08/2011 at 10:18:50

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Totally agree with both the original post and subsequent responses. It's time for change at all levels in theClub, but I fear things will have to get much worse before they get better. We haven't hit the iceberg yet but we can see it coming and all the Club are doing is move the deckchairs around.......
Eugene Ruane
11   Posted 21/08/2011 at 10:41:55

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Mohammed - absolutely spot on.
Kase Chow
12   Posted 21/08/2011 at 11:59:05

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Very good post. I've said for a while now, if we can't expect a trophy or top 4 (cos of lack of money), then at least we can expect to be entertained I.e. 2 up front, wingers, overlapping fullbackS and attack minded players

So bored of EFC. I admire Moyes and admire what he's done but I think I'm ready to risk relegation if it means getting entertainment
Peter Laing
13   Posted 21/08/2011 at 12:55:51

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Well said Mohammed, my stomaching is churning at the moment with anger regarding the division that is occuring between blues whilst Kenwright sits back smuggly and his puppet Moyes lambasts Blue union for trying to garner the truth after a summer of silence. The Club is a disgrace and rotting to the core, after sitting through that display yesterday I could not believe that we could surrender so easily to another Championship side.
John Dawson
14   Posted 21/08/2011 at 14:25:46

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We ended up with the right players on the pitch, but mystifyingly out of position.

Fellaini should not be deployed up front. Osman & Barkley should switch. Cahill has proven to be massively innefective when dropped deep.

If they couldnt start the match due to fitness they certainly should have ended up:

Howard
Neville - Jags - Distin - Baines
Fellaini
Arteta - Barkley - Osman
Cahill
Saha

Distin & Barkley were top drawer with Bainesy's standards now just the expectation. Apart from that we were woeful.

If you are fit enough to be on the bench, the manager must think you have 1/2 hour in you.
Brendan O'Doherty
15   Posted 21/08/2011 at 15:06:20

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Great post Mohammed. The place stinks with apathy.
Eric Kobal
16   Posted 21/08/2011 at 17:00:42

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Tim Cahill should not start at all in my opinion. Great goals in the past but offers nothing in midfield. Poor footballer in midfiield terms and missed 2 gilt edged chances yesterday.
Anthony Jones
17   Posted 21/08/2011 at 18:49:33

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You are right fot the most part. I wish it was just a Cahill issue, however!

Our manager deserves the dour and negative labels that are used to describe him.

He over coaches.

He is stubborn.

He is only really capable of defensive coaching, and STILL we appear to have no attacking coaches at the club!

His loyalty to his players is actaually a reflection of his FEAR of change and LACK of creativity.

How is it that almost every fan can see that Rodwell and Heitinga cannot play in the positions they were deployed in yesterday?!!

The Kenwright thing could easily overshadow Moyes' failings.

The sad truth is that we are fucked both on and off the pitch. The Championship becokns.
Martin Handley
18   Posted 21/08/2011 at 19:24:09

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Mohammed well put mate. Moyes has got away with murder for years.

Time after time he proves he's just a younger version of Walter Smith, negative, frightened, clueless, but time after time these so called pundits, Hansen et all keep saying he's a shoe in for Sir Taggarts job. Great, let them have him! It'll be hilairious watching them stutter and fail with his 'tactics'.

I'd rather have Ian Holloway, at least it'd be exciting; yes, possibly flirting with relegation, but are we not going to be in that position anyway, until the usual happens and the players find their pride around October and start finding Barcelona-like form when the pressure's off.

Please, for those of you that still think Moyes is the Messiah, take your rose-tinted glasses off, the man gets paid close to £70k a week to produce mindless, clueless, boring dross.

Who could replace him? I don't know but there are managers out there.

Mike Allison
19   Posted 21/08/2011 at 21:25:59

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I disagree slightly about Cahill, which you put as number one, but the rest I agree with. Coleman and Baines should both play as overlapping full backs offering width, and someone (be it Cahill or a more orthodox striker) should always be in support of the 'number 9'.

The problem is a lack of creativity, particularly in wide areas, which is never going to be solved playing Rodwell and Barkley there. To be fair though, Moyes is aware of this, as he mentioned it in his interview. I don't really see how a manager can be in place ten years and not solve a problem though...
Sean McCarthy
20   Posted 21/08/2011 at 22:33:19

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Cahill didn't play in midfield yesterday. He was upfront with the ever useless beckford. Even moyes said he played 2 up front on his post match interviews. Cahill will remain as our 'second' striker. We just need to find a 'first' striker now coz it most certainly isn't beckford.
As for the clamour for Coleman to play right back. I don't understand why this is so. He can't tackle which is a fairly important part of a right backs. Yes we have big issues to address. These aren't two of them
Jim Lloyd
21   Posted 22/08/2011 at 08:30:30

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Excellent post Mohammed. I believe that Moyes should stick to managing the team. I have criticisms of his style of football and what appears to be the philosophy of fear he instills in the players. As he's had little money, I thought it unfair to criticise his tactics, choice of team, substitutes and style of football.
He has now attacked the representatives from Blue Union and I think that's bang out of order. I don't expect him to criticise the club openly and I certainly don't think he's right in atatcking a group of fans who went on behalf of many more.
Surely no one believes that those two niaive children in the forest, messrs Kenwright and Hatton set up a meeting with a group of concerned fans and that the results of that meeting wouldn't be reported back? Bloody Nora, it stinks of a set up to me. Good on yer Mohammed and and well done lads.
Ben Hunt
22   Posted 22/08/2011 at 09:57:55

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Cahill has had his day as part of the first XI, as sad as it is to say, but that is the case.
In a midfield 4 he offers little because he lacks the skill and discipline to play there in a modern premier league, he also offers little in the way of creativity.
Playing off the striker is where he made his name, but that was when we were able to put decent crosses into the box, something we have seemingly have forgotten how to do. He also made his name scoring headers as a result of his timing, accuracy and ability to find space but I can't remember the last time he actually did that? Have defenders just got wise?
Tim should be used as an impact sub when the team (or opposition) needs a bit of shaking up, other than that, I'm afraid, No 17, your time is up...
Ernie Baywood
23   Posted 22/08/2011 at 12:12:49

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2 chances he'd normally bury... would we be having the same discussion? Who else gets into those positions?

Completely agree with the other points, though.
Tony J Williams
24   Posted 22/08/2011 at 13:23:12

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Ernie, it's all to do with hindsight. If he had put away the chances he had, he would be the hero, he missed so is now the talentless villain again.

In regards to not being ready for the season, how does that work? What I watchedSaturday was what was happening at the later stages of last season, teams parking the bus and us not being able to greak them down. It was the status quo then so why it is all about pre-season now?

Ben you can't remember Cahill doing that because he was inured for ages and now our fecking useless midfield/Neville can't cross for shit.
Peter Moore
25   Posted 22/08/2011 at 13:28:59

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Sean Mccarthy spot on. Beckford was shocking. There's a time and a place for Beckford but not home against QPR. If we are away at good teams, playing on the counter attack, Beckford's the man for the job. Trying to keep possession and create opportunities at home, Beckford's appalling. He was made up to be subbed and was almost walking off before his number came up.

Any team is only as good as it's forwards.
Peter Moore
26   Posted 22/08/2011 at 13:42:11

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Also, has Phil Neville ever played worse?

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