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Misery Loves Company

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So... just 3 weeks into the new season and the outlook appears somewhat bleak to say the least.

There's a civil war in progress between board and fans, our financial worst fears have been confirmed, and one or more of our better players look likely to depart (possibly with very little cash to reinvest in return).

There's no respite on the park either as, even with most of our 'stars' fit and ready, our team looks demoralised, unbalanced and largely clueless against some of the league's weakest opposition (QPR and Blackburn both have to be relegation favourites).

Yet somehow, despite our woes, we're not the gloomiest fans on the block this weekend...

Spurs, one of the sides who appeared to storm past us in recent seasons as we were labouring in neutral, sit solid bottom of the table with nil points from two games and a -7 goal difference having been tonked by both halves of Manchester and are labouring amid some player strife of their own with Modric clearly wanting away.

Their rival North Londoners seem in even more dire straits, with just 1 point to show from 3 games, an even worse goal difference after an 8-2 humiliation at the hands of Man Utd, and a squad which has been decimated by the loss of their most creative midfield duo to rivals and over half of their first choice defensive line-up to bans and injuries.

Between them at the bottom, Woy's seemingly resurgent West Brom are looking fresh out of boing-boing with nothing to show from 3 games... just above a Blackburn side who are looking all too much like turkeys having failed to gobble a single point against Villa, Wolves and a very out of sorts Blues (despite 2 generous penalty gifts).

Even in mid-table, Sunderland and Fulham, sides suggested by some as likely to surpass the Blues this year and push Everton further out of the top 6 with their new appointments on the field and the touchline respectively, are looking decidedly uninspired with just draws on the board and negative goal differences.

So, if it's true that misery truly does love company and further adores those who are even worse off, fellow Blues must be feeling soothed and slightly less bitter in the knowledge that we're not the most hard-done-by this weekend.

In fact, despite the panto and the now familiar abject start to the season, when the dust settles our position isn't actually that bad and there are at least 5 reasons to be (relatively) cheerful:

i) We may not have deserved it, but we've won a game and have points on the board which is an improvement on last year and could be just the catalyst to boost confidence and give us something to build on.

ii) We've not been left for dead, indeed we're sat in mid-table with a game in hand that, should we manage to win it, would see us breathing down the necks of the CL spot.

iii) We now have a couple of weeks breathing space to settle any transfer business, calm the club down and get the players fit (Coleman/Gueye) and geed up ahead of two eminently winnable fixtures.

iv) We do have most of our senior players fit and available (barring transfers) and in Baines, Howard and Felliani at least they are starting to show some form.

v) Most crucially, in the shape of Ross Barkley we seem to have produced another genuine fresh talent, along with fellow youngsters Coleman, Gueye and Vellios/Baxter)

So then, whilst the blue glass may well be cracked, there's still a case to say that it's looking at least half-full. COYB!
Chris James, Beijing     Posted 28/08/2011 at 18:04:43

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Daniel J Johnson
1   Posted 28/08/2011 at 21:09:34

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YES YES YES YES YES!

Sean Patton
2   Posted 28/08/2011 at 21:12:41

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Last year I think Chelsea won their first 6 games of the season the esteemed pundits said the title was wrapped up and look what happened.

No matter how well a team plays or looks you win fuck all in August.
David Booth
3   Posted 28/08/2011 at 21:12:43

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Chris, some good points, simply, fairly and very effectively made.

We DO, after all, have some reasons to be reasonably cheerful it seems.

Yesterday was perhaps THE most fortunate win under David Moyes' stewardship. But a win's a win and after bouncing back in midweek, one can only hope that this allegedly talented bunch of players wake up and finally live-up to our expectations.

More on that from me later.

And more from me to come too on our chairman. Even my habitually-optimistic opinion about our club's principal guardian has been severely challenged recently.

When the man in charge of an £85m turnover 'business' cannot explain (or even find some pre-prepared PR bullshit), for where approximately 30 per cent of it has gone, alarm bells switch to deafening mode.

After supporting him on here on many occasions, I have changed my mind.

One cannot question his motives as an Evertonian. Like me, he loves our club. But he clearly has to realise it's a task beyond good natured sentimentality and let go.

If we delay any longer, we are destined to simply fade into the history books: 'Oh yes, Everton, they were a big team once weren't they?'

This is clearly going to be a pivotal season in so many ways.



Dave Smith
4   Posted 28/08/2011 at 21:11:36

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Ironic isn't it? This season could yet prove the best chance of anyone reaching that coverted 4th spot, yet it just happens to be the same season we suffer a mini crisis of our own.

Our win this weekend didn't leave much to feel positive about, but you're right. We also have two wins on the bounce now, so hopefully some confidence should be settling in. I'm actually looking forward to our next game now, for the first time this season. What a difference a day makes.
Gavin Ramejkis
5   Posted 28/08/2011 at 21:43:33

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Was thinking something similar to the replies today, Spurs looking disjointed, Arsenal look a complete mess and hopeless so two there for the taking but both have money to buy their way out of it. If Everton had a few quid to spend on width and pace and another goal scorer we could easily get Europe but another lost opportunity.
John Audsley
6   Posted 28/08/2011 at 21:59:33

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Top post!

I'm feeling positivo at the moment!!

Better to be lucky than good..
Brendan McLaughlin
7   Posted 28/08/2011 at 22:13:22

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Yeah right John...because luck lasts & being good (at football?) gets you nowhere?
Luke Dunn
8   Posted 28/08/2011 at 22:16:58

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John Audsley
9   Posted 28/08/2011 at 22:30:45

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....= sarcasm Brendan

Jesus..............................
Brendan McLaughlin
10   Posted 28/08/2011 at 22:38:44

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Sorry John. Normally I'm pretty good at picking up that sort of vibe but obviously too much wine tonight!
Mike Hughes
11   Posted 28/08/2011 at 22:48:29

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Good article and captures the way many of us probably feel.

However, the power of positive drinking is just taking effect so here goes:

1. We're 3 points better off after 2 games than in 84 / 85 when we were Champs.

2. If we win our game in hand against the red filth we'll be a point behind them. 1 point for a spending outlay of £100 million? Beggars belief - wasteful bastards.

3. None of our players have pony tails.

4. Big Vic's goals to games ratio is better than Carroll's and Torres' this season.

5. We didn't sign Barton in desperation. (Alternatively, we are too desperate to sign even Barton.)

6. The old adage, "if you can win while playing crap, it's a good sign". Well, we really are playing crap so things must be looking up......

7. Nobody's left yet.

8. We still live in Liverpool (sadly not the King's Dock).

9. We no longer have a fluorescent pink embarrassment of an away kit and are back to our historical finery of blue, white and amber. (White socks next year please).

10. Ross Barkley.

The Mighty Blue juggernaut is rolling into gear.

Fear the blues.

All you red filth - Fear the Mighty Blues.



Mike Hughes
12   Posted 28/08/2011 at 23:19:36

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Had a bit more to drink so will add that, looking at the league table, we're making Money Bags Arsenal and Flash-The-Cash Spurs look like ale house teams. Amateurs.

Brendan McLaughlin
13   Posted 28/08/2011 at 23:16:57

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Mike..glass half full doesn't go anywhere close! But I love it!
Joe Clitherow
14   Posted 28/08/2011 at 23:35:20

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It's August - don't mean nothing, never has done. 24/7 Sky Sports News has made everything more and more dramatic because they always need a sensational football story, and we've all become a little bit guilty of falling into the same thinking. I'm even beginning to believe some journos are even starting to make up their own stories

Years ago there were not even any tables published until a few weeks into the season and this is a much more sensible approach.

Come back in October with the corresponding article.
Joe Clitherow
15   Posted 29/08/2011 at 00:15:42

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("I'm even beginning to believe some journos are even starting to make up their own stories" was supposed to be sarcastic by the way...)
Joe Clitherow
16   Posted 29/08/2011 at 00:15:42

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("I'm even beginning to believe some journos are even starting to make up their own stories" was supposed to be sarcastic by the way...)
Andy Crooks
17   Posted 29/08/2011 at 00:14:44

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Brendan, just when you're about to tip over into reality, Mike talks you off the edge. If we don't bring in anyone this week we are in trouble.

Blackburn, who deserved to win, will strengthen as will QPR. Stoke are looking to add to their squad. Frankly, I wouldn't back us with any confidence to beat any team in the Premier League. I am drawing hope from the confidence that an incredibly lucky win might bring.

We look slow and tentative, lack width and movement which means we fall back on hoofball. We need a spark and we need it this week.

Brendan McLaughlin
18   Posted 29/08/2011 at 00:29:40

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Andy... it's a Sunday night... it's a Bank Holiday... we've got our first 3 (underserved) points & away from home... and yet you still complain. "I wouldn't back us with any confidence to beat any team" ? says it all really! Look up the definition of supporter on the internet, Andy!
Robert Daniels
19   Posted 29/08/2011 at 01:26:31

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MIke,
Love it well said mate,

A know its still wishfull speaking but well said anyway.
Great points; even if i don't agree with all of them, your passion shines through.

COYBs.
Eric Myles
20   Posted 29/08/2011 at 02:35:15

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Breathing down the necks of a CL spot after 3 games means fuck all.
Now if it were with 3 games of the season remaining then you would have reasons to be cheerful.
Dalziel Kane
21   Posted 29/08/2011 at 03:09:13

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There's still a whole season to play for, I'm fairly optimisitc we can do something in the time between now and end of season. The horrible cunts from across the park are near the top of the league but I can't envisage they will still be in a similar position come May time. Today's Premier League fixtures were awesome, Man City hit five at the Spurs, and Manchester go eight crazy over Arsenal, being impartial, it was a great advert for the English Premier League.

All said, I hope the club can build to some extent on the weekend's result and establish themselves in the upper half of the league, I don't expect European cup soccer but even to grab a Europa Cup place would be something, still a very long way to go, remain hopeful!
Jay Harris
22   Posted 29/08/2011 at 03:36:52

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Unfortunately the league is a marathon not a sprint and we havent even got a squad capable of completing a sprint!!
Jamie Sweet
23   Posted 29/08/2011 at 03:54:34

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Sprinting Jay? What's that? Pace? Nah. Not seen anything like that from our team in a while.

I don't think our manager likes players who can run faster than him!

Sorry, this is supposed to be a positive thread isn't it. Good result at the weekend wasn't it? Marvelous stuff eh! Wonderful.
Norman Merrill
24   Posted 29/08/2011 at 08:43:04

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I would 8-2 be a Arsenal fan this morning.
Richard Dodd
25   Posted 29/08/2011 at 09:19:05

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August doesn`t mean a fuck? What nonsense! Three points now still counts as three points come next May, don`t they? Nobody remembers how we got them and 14 similar scorelines will see us more than safe!
IMWT
John Audsley
26   Posted 29/08/2011 at 09:25:39

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Fair do's Brendan (10)

According to the Missus Sarcasm is the only thing i have any talent for...

oh dear
Mike Hargreaves
27   Posted 29/08/2011 at 09:27:58

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WoW only 50% of you now complaining. I was there Saturday and were absolutely shite, but we got 3 points. How many times have we played (was going to brilliant) good and got nothing out of the game. 2 wins out of 3 can we complain and lets remember its the top teams who want our players on transfer so is our squad that bad.
Brian Waring
28   Posted 29/08/2011 at 09:58:09

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The big difference is that Spurs have now added a quality striker in Adebayoor to their ranks, and are on the verge of signing Parker.

Arsenal were missing around 7 first team players yesterday, also they will go out and strengthen.

The shite look stronger and better than last season.

Man city look tactically a different team to last year season. They are now going for it.
Brian Waring
29   Posted 29/08/2011 at 10:08:18

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Mike, we have only played 2 games.
Also, its only Jags that we have had a firm offer for, the rest is just all media speculation.
Brian Waring
30   Posted 29/08/2011 at 10:21:53

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Sorry Mike, forgot about the Sheff utd game.
Brendan McLaughlin
31   Posted 29/08/2011 at 10:10:55

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Brian #28
Man City "look tactically different"....yeah after spending north of 50 million this season alone!
Chris James
32   Posted 29/08/2011 at 10:10:33

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Thanks for the positive comments on the article and really nice to see some folks going with the mood (even if beer assisted!).

For the detractors, I think we all know that one lucky result doesn't mean too much just yet and the skies above still look pretty dark grey in the main, but that's why I'm seizing upon the rays of light that are piercing the gloom.

Obviously everyone's entitled to their own perogative, but personally I don't see how being miserable all year is going to help the situation (or my own state of mind) much and if you can't celebrate a little after a lucky win, then when can you?

Since my dreams of an exciting N'Zogbia/Donovan type winger were comprehensively shattered some weeks back I'm now even quite sanguine when it comes to the last few days of the transfer window and will be monitoring ANY moves with almost detached interest (although that could also be the jetlag, am in Beijing for a few days).

I personally think we have to do something to freshen it up and if that means losing Jags, Arteta or Rodwell in a player-plus cash deal then maybe it's not so bad, whilst I wouldn't say we'd def be better off, it's not like any of them are setting the prem alight right now.

Likewise, I'd naturally prefer a Sturridge, Johnson or Bellamy type as a new arrival over the likes of Bendtner and Gibson, but you never know how things work out (who got that excited about Kevin Campbell when he came in and kept us up or more recently the arrivals of the likes of Tim Cahill, Arteta or Baines initially?).

Ultimately, if any new arrivals could come close to adding the impetus and spark that Barkley has brought then we all might be able to see a little more sunshine in the weeks ahead (or at least glimpse some light at the end of the tunnel).
Ray Roche
33   Posted 29/08/2011 at 11:27:00

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Must say I was delighted to se Awwy Wedknapp moaning about having his players unsettled with all the transfer talk. Just the sort of thing that poxy faced twat does all the time.

Steve Smith
34   Posted 29/08/2011 at 12:08:53

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It's always good to be positive about the team and I usually am, but having seen all three games live, it's really hard not to be gloomy I'm afraid.
Yes we picked up three points but apart from that, can anybody say anything about our performance that bodes well for the future? FFS if Moyes thinks that of the choices he had available, Anichibe was our best bet, then we're in serious fucking trouble.
The team is stale, the tactics are stale, and, for the first time during his tenure I'm thinking that maybe we need a change of manager.
Gavin Ramejkis
35   Posted 29/08/2011 at 10:49:47

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Doddy, love it, got to be the first season in a long time you've seen the light and realise August is important.
Chad Schofield
36   Posted 29/08/2011 at 11:19:17

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Good points Chris... And very funny points Mike Hughes!
Brian Waring
37   Posted 29/08/2011 at 13:28:02

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Brendan, yeah I know city have spent a wad of cash.

They spent plenty last season as well.
The point I'm making, last season they were defensive, boring, negative. What I have seen of them this season, Mancini looks like he has become more adventorous tactically, going for it from the off.

Steve Abraham
38   Posted 29/08/2011 at 14:01:32

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Good post. However, Spurs came up against a great Man City side. They will come back strong. The Arse must buy well or they will not make Euro football this season.

The past seasons we have performed well against City. If we play them this season like we played against Blackburn I fear goals in double figures against.
Brendan McLaughlin
39   Posted 29/08/2011 at 14:37:03

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Brian #37
I'd wager if you asked Mancini what he has changed tactically from this year to last he'd say very little...and I don't mean he wouldn't say much.
Rob Murphy
40   Posted 29/08/2011 at 18:27:03

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How come the 'best league in d world', to quote skysports & their ever so knowledgeable pundits, is littered with shite teams??

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