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Good Chairman, shame about his advisors!
49 Comments: As a longstanding supporter of Chairman Bill, I do have to query who advises him on his choice of advisors!
All the way back to the infamous Christopher Samuelson, the worthies (or otherwise) he has chosen to rely on have sold him well short.
Of late, the likes of Wyness, Ross, Harris and Hatton have hardly enhanced his standing amongst Evertonians... and even top businessmen like Green and Leahy seem to have sold him bum steers.
It also disappoints me that he has actually sought to make a virtue of naivety ? as with his response to the financial questions posed at his recent inquisition.
I continue to believe that, at heart, Blue Bill is an all-round `good chap` with the best interests of our club at heart. Whether he has the wisdom and judgement to see us through this crisis is all together a different matter.
Certainly, he could hardly do worse were he to reject the `help` of his ill-chosen hangers-on!
Richard Dodd, Posted 30/08/2011 at 13:48:03
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This should be a poll - Is Bill a good chairman - yes or no.
Fucken hell Doddy lad I like a wind up myself, but you are different league
Its like he's almost cottoned on to what people are thinking yet can't bring himself to fully admit it. It's quite endearing really.
He choses his advisors so his judgement is poor.
Anyway you cut it, Kenwright is at fault.
Anyway you cut it, Kenwright is at fault.
Ok Richard so lets look at the evidence......
Peter Johnson
Lord Granchester
NTL
Paul and Anita Gregg
King's Dock
Christopher Samuelson
Trevor Birch
Wayne Rooney
Keith Wyness
Destination Kirkby
Robert Earl
Robert Elstone
Ian Ross
Keith Harris
Everton place
AGM's
EGM's
24/7 search for investment
All whilst Bill Kenwright has been a director or major shareholder of Everton FC
Peter Johnson
Lord Granchester
NTL
Paul and Anita Gregg
King's Dock
Christopher Samuelson
Trevor Birch
Wayne Rooney
Keith Wyness
Destination Kirkby
Robert Earl
Robert Elstone
Ian Ross
Keith Harris
Everton place
AGM's
EGM's
24/7 search for investment
All whilst Bill Kenwright has been a director or major shareholder of Everton FC
Wyness, Ross, Harris , Hatton ,Green and Leahy. And Bill's the only one in step....
Richard, "A good chairman" would know where £24 million was going in his company, and would not have been "advised" by the people you highlight .
The man, as charming as you think he is, is woefully out of his depth at every commercial/ business level of Everton FC.
He is a problem not a solution.
The man, as charming as you think he is, is woefully out of his depth at every commercial/ business level of Everton FC.
He is a problem not a solution.
Alarm bells ring at the 'Freshfields' secure facilty......
Patient :
"Nurse.... Nurse .... come quickly...Richard's posting on Toffeeweb again & by the look of it he's stopped taking his medication AGAIN ! "
Nurse : " Don't worry he's quite harmless, Just a very confused about his imaginary friend Bill".
Nurse turns to Richard : "Cum on now Doddy , let's get you strapped back on your bed.... I know luv', it's everyone elses fault except your friend Bill's"
Patient :
"Nurse.... Nurse .... come quickly...Richard's posting on Toffeeweb again & by the look of it he's stopped taking his medication AGAIN ! "
Nurse : " Don't worry he's quite harmless, Just a very confused about his imaginary friend Bill".
Nurse turns to Richard : "Cum on now Doddy , let's get you strapped back on your bed.... I know luv', it's everyone elses fault except your friend Bill's"
Doddy, just when I think you couldn't get any more desperate
A wee tale for you, young man...
There is a pub, hidden away up Rice Street, called Ye Cracke
On a wall, in a small room (War Office, anyone?) there hung a framed diagram of 'The Patent Buck-Passing Machine'
It hung there for decades then went missing
Just thought I'd inflict this on you in return for the waste of 30 seconds reading your post, above
A wee tale for you, young man...
There is a pub, hidden away up Rice Street, called Ye Cracke
On a wall, in a small room (War Office, anyone?) there hung a framed diagram of 'The Patent Buck-Passing Machine'
It hung there for decades then went missing
Just thought I'd inflict this on you in return for the waste of 30 seconds reading your post, above
HAHAHAH Doddy still trying to defend the gut when the evidence is stacked against him!!!. He is a deluded man kenwright who is way out of his depth.
Ye Cracke
War Office,
Christ,Phil, that takes me back...
War Office,
Christ,Phil, that takes me back...
Decry Doddy if you like but I know what he means.....in a way. Being of a similar age to BK I reckon I could spend a pleasant evening with him talking and reminiscing about Everton. As for his wish to do the best he can possibly do for his beloved club, I think I would do the same if I were to find myself in his position.
But to be Chairman of a business you have to know enough about the business to be able to point it in the direction you want it to go. You have to have the acumen to formulate a workable business plan. BK clearly does not have that acumen and his undoubted love for the club is no substitute. So BK hands over all the responsibility for this side of the business to others who he thinks can manage the task. And they can't.
Bk has to bring the matter to a head. He has to resign. It will be a dangerous thing to do in many ways but sometimes when you have no luck finding something yourself it gets found only when you are no longer there.
Bill saved this club from somebody even worse than him. We need to thank him for that and politely ask him to move over.
But to be Chairman of a business you have to know enough about the business to be able to point it in the direction you want it to go. You have to have the acumen to formulate a workable business plan. BK clearly does not have that acumen and his undoubted love for the club is no substitute. So BK hands over all the responsibility for this side of the business to others who he thinks can manage the task. And they can't.
Bk has to bring the matter to a head. He has to resign. It will be a dangerous thing to do in many ways but sometimes when you have no luck finding something yourself it gets found only when you are no longer there.
Bill saved this club from somebody even worse than him. We need to thank him for that and politely ask him to move over.
Mmmmmm.....advisors...........
It reminds me of the old joke (Please imagine Manuel from Fawlty Towers accents)......
An old man was sitting by the side of the long winding road halfway up the top of a hill. As one of the townfolk passed him by they asked him: "Pedro, why are you looking so sad?" Pedro replied: "You see all of those boats down in the harbour? I build all of them with a my bare hands....But do they call me Pedro the Boat Maker?........NO!" Another person passes by and ventures the same question as to why Pedro is looking so sad, Pedro replies: ""You see all of those houses over there? I build all of them with a my bare hands....Every single one of them. But do they call me Pedro the House Builder?........NO!"
The yet another villager passes by, enquiring about the source of Pedro's misery. Pedro replies: ""You see all of those walls and fences separating the fields? I build all of them with a my bare hands....Every wall, every fence.... Do they call me Pedro the Bricklayer?........NO!".......... I f**k just one pig.......!
The moral being, we are often judged by who we mix with. In Bill's case he's not only been having a Pigfest, but he's landed us well and truly knee-deep in brown smelly stuff and God only knows if we'll get out of this "Sty".
It reminds me of the old joke (Please imagine Manuel from Fawlty Towers accents)......
An old man was sitting by the side of the long winding road halfway up the top of a hill. As one of the townfolk passed him by they asked him: "Pedro, why are you looking so sad?" Pedro replied: "You see all of those boats down in the harbour? I build all of them with a my bare hands....But do they call me Pedro the Boat Maker?........NO!" Another person passes by and ventures the same question as to why Pedro is looking so sad, Pedro replies: ""You see all of those houses over there? I build all of them with a my bare hands....Every single one of them. But do they call me Pedro the House Builder?........NO!"
The yet another villager passes by, enquiring about the source of Pedro's misery. Pedro replies: ""You see all of those walls and fences separating the fields? I build all of them with a my bare hands....Every wall, every fence.... Do they call me Pedro the Bricklayer?........NO!".......... I f**k just one pig.......!
The moral being, we are often judged by who we mix with. In Bill's case he's not only been having a Pigfest, but he's landed us well and truly knee-deep in brown smelly stuff and God only knows if we'll get out of this "Sty".
I omitted to add `if only Bill had been as lucky with his business advisers as he was with his choice of manager we would now be in a different place`.
Amazing how the man could be so right with his football manager and so wrong with just about every other appointment!
But I guess that`s life!
Amazing how the man could be so right with his football manager and so wrong with just about every other appointment!
But I guess that`s life!
Get a grip Doddy. Please ! !
Oh dear Doddy please give up blaming everyone but Kenwright.
Here?s a snippet: Bill, ?Of course Keith Harris is involved?.Keith Harris is involved on a daily basis.
Bill went on to tell a story concerning Keith Harris; he?d put forward two guys who, in his opinion, were suitable potential owners of Everton Football Club.
Harris claimed the two guys controlled a hedge fund; one was the head of ICI in the Far East and a second an inventor.
They conducted due diligence and Everton were ready to sign an agreement when Bill smelt a rat; investigators discovered that ICI had never heard of the person concerned, he actually lived in a one bedroom flat, and the second guy, the inventor, was based in Manchester.
That brings to mind a quote I?ve used on this page before, but it bears repeating. It was uttered by Manchester United chief executive David Gill.
?Keith Harris will go anywhere that there?s a bit of publicity around. That?s his modus operandi, but his track record in football isn?t anything to write home about.?
So why is he still being used by Everton?
SO DODDY AND KENWRIGHT WILL HAVE SOMEONE OTHER THAN KENWRIGHT TO BLAME
Here?s a snippet: Bill, ?Of course Keith Harris is involved?.Keith Harris is involved on a daily basis.
Bill went on to tell a story concerning Keith Harris; he?d put forward two guys who, in his opinion, were suitable potential owners of Everton Football Club.
Harris claimed the two guys controlled a hedge fund; one was the head of ICI in the Far East and a second an inventor.
They conducted due diligence and Everton were ready to sign an agreement when Bill smelt a rat; investigators discovered that ICI had never heard of the person concerned, he actually lived in a one bedroom flat, and the second guy, the inventor, was based in Manchester.
That brings to mind a quote I?ve used on this page before, but it bears repeating. It was uttered by Manchester United chief executive David Gill.
?Keith Harris will go anywhere that there?s a bit of publicity around. That?s his modus operandi, but his track record in football isn?t anything to write home about.?
So why is he still being used by Everton?
SO DODDY AND KENWRIGHT WILL HAVE SOMEONE OTHER THAN KENWRIGHT TO BLAME
Richard, didn't Walter Smith recommend Moyes to BK?
"Nurse.... Nurse .... come quickly...Richard's posting on Toffeeweb again" hahaha
Hey Richard
Ever thought the rest of the board are doing nothing because deep down they know Kenwrights a tosser???
I'm going to do a print out of this page if you don't mind. Will be a nice read with a cold guinness as the sun goes down.
Nothing sinister, just a good read.
Nothing sinister, just a good read.
The best quote I heard about Harris was from Simon Jordan, he said ?Keith Harris, a man who delivers the square root of nothing.?
Still there, Ray...still visit when I can as part of a nice llittle crawl starting in Peter Kavanaghs, calling at the Pilgrim then down into Fleet Street
Happy days
Happy days
Poor old Kenwright, he's just a victim of circumstances, eh Doddy?
I support Everton, not Kenwright, & no matter which way you slice it his time on the Board has been a catalogue of mistakes. Failure is failure & not what this club needs from the Board. They've got to go - the club needs a complete shake-up.
I support Everton, not Kenwright, & no matter which way you slice it his time on the Board has been a catalogue of mistakes. Failure is failure & not what this club needs from the Board. They've got to go - the club needs a complete shake-up.
Phil, I used to go there in the 60's from the Art School for a lunchtime pint and a cheese cob. I don't think I've been there for 30+ years....
Doddy, I never thought Frank Spencer was a "Bad chap", just useless.
BK is an embarrassment. The End.
It's pretty sad when we've become the laughing stock of all the transfer talk on twitter, we can't afford this and that.... it hurts. When other fans talk about taking our best players for less that there worth because we are BROKE!!! Its sad to see
Doddy Kenwrong admits himself that it was Walter Smith that recommended Moyes, if Kenwright was left to it, we would of had Megson probably or worse.
Ray, may well have discussed music, life, Alexandra Bastedo and art with you, in there then
I worked in Kent St in 66/68 and the Cracke was on my walk home to Granby St, beside being a favourite venue for us Blues in the evening
It's well worth a vist, as is Peter Kavanaghs in Egerton Street - proof that some (good) things don't change beyond all recognition
There you go, Doddy, your post was of value, after all - my apologies
I worked in Kent St in 66/68 and the Cracke was on my walk home to Granby St, beside being a favourite venue for us Blues in the evening
It's well worth a vist, as is Peter Kavanaghs in Egerton Street - proof that some (good) things don't change beyond all recognition
There you go, Doddy, your post was of value, after all - my apologies
Ray and Phil, get a room......
Doddy the only good thing you say he has done and its wasnt him. How long before you admit he is fucking useless. No one has have said he isnt a blue but time to stop trying to make excuses for him.
I'm sorry but he only has himself to blame. It was only he who could change those around him, therefore showing either a lack of judgement of leadership.
Yes it is sad... But it's not like he's not being given a chance.
Yes it is sad... But it's not like he's not being given a chance.
Jeff....meowww!
FFS Richard, get a grip. However, I sense that the light may be slowly dawning on you...
Any chance of this Pedro fellow building us a new stadium???!!!
Phil, we may well have dribbled over Alexandra Bastedo, but as I can't remember what I had for my tea tonight the chances of recalling anything after several pints of Old And Filthy in Ye Cracke are lower than a snakes bollocks.
Jeff. Wash yer mind out.
Jeff. Wash yer mind out.
Richard, I admire your loyalty towards BK, but please drop your ego and accept like most others on here, we have all made a mistake in accepting BK as chairman, time to let go.
Dave Roberts, he saved us from somebody worse than him, really? Maybe over time the memories fade, but in my book PJ was way more business savvy, won a trophy and bought players, put his own money on the line (unlike BK) and left us with 20M debts which was mortgaged, tell me how he was worse than the current chairman?
Peter Laing #6, exactly, couldn't have put it better myself.
Phil, Ray, Ye Cracke was my 'local' early 80's when the still had the War Office but it was ripped out to make more standing room.
Still ppop in there and Peter Kavanagh's the rare occassions when I'm back.
Alexander Bastedo, that takes me back as well!!
Still ppop in there and Peter Kavanagh's the rare occassions when I'm back.
Alexander Bastedo, that takes me back as well!!
The Chairman chooses his advisors. The advisors he chooses are idiots. The Chariman continues to work with said idiots. This equals a poor Chairman in my book. I can't see any other way of looking at it.
Gerard Carey #35, that's one of the funiest things I've ever read on here, thanks for making laugh out loud.
Doddy, your post is about the second funniest thing I've ever read on here......... but for different reasons.
Doddy, your post is about the second funniest thing I've ever read on here......... but for different reasons.
Whilst I agree that appointing DM was a great move at the time (And others have correctly pointed out that Walter Smith suggested him), IMHO DM took us as far as he could many many years ago and we have stagnated ever since. Kenwright's big mistake with DM was giving him that bumper new contract.
I think I've made my point. (Sorry about the multiple posts. Computery issues).
And yes, Gerard #35, that was gold! I'd be happy for anyone to build us a new stadium right now... pig fucker or not - we're in no position to be picky!
Right, I'm off to Ye Cracke! Can I get you a pint of Realism Doddy?
And yes, Gerard #35, that was gold! I'd be happy for anyone to build us a new stadium right now... pig fucker or not - we're in no position to be picky!
Right, I'm off to Ye Cracke! Can I get you a pint of Realism Doddy?
I've read the title, come doown to the little box, without reading 44 or so of the responses......simple short version even Doddy (one would hope) can understand.
YOU ARE JUDGED BY THE COMPANY YOU KEEP.
YOU ARE JUDGED BY THE COMPANY YOU KEEP.
How about : Not sure about The Chairman but arrogant over - rated and predictable Manager.
If you presume that to be a thinly disguised criticism of David Moyes, then you are correct. Whenever we play well, it's Moyes that gets the praise; when we do badly, it's down to the players.
Moyes moans about our poor starts to the season... well it was his pathetic tactics that cost us the game against QPR ? or I should say ? lack of tactics.
My biggest criticism of Kenwright: he seems to support David Moyes whatever he does. He could play Hibbo in goal and Kenwright would still praise him.
Derek @42 same here and the fact it only has 44 responses on something that has generated hundreds over the past few months sums it up really, a wind up.
Sorry about that,
Doddy, as for David Moyes the jury is very much still out, on this website.
Doddy, as for David Moyes the jury is very much still out, on this website.
Michael 44, have you been asleep for a few years? I only mention that as apparantly we lose because of Moyes and win in spite of him.
I prefered Peter Johnson..... he knew when he was out of his depth and when to go.
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