For many a year across Europe fans have taken great delight in illuminating the terraces and field of play with the use of flares.
The trend never really caught on over here, perhaps due to a lack of interest, perhaps due to more stringent security measures.
Last year, however, travelling Evertonians were among those who saw fit to smuggle them into grounds and cause a scene. I have my own opinions but, after a lengthy Twitter debate about the topic, I'll remain impartial for now and see what kind of support/opposition you folks have.
So, a visual aid for a passionate fan?
Or irresponsible idiocy?
Phil Sammon, Posted 13/06/2013 at 19:38:20
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503 Posted 13/06/2013 at 21:45:34
I believe that flares add something to the atmosphere but when they get into the wrong hands it just becomes moronic and above all dangerous.
No doubt when Monsiour Platini gets his job at FIFA he'll ban them, as well as changing most of English Football for the worse as he seems to hate anything to do with England.
I dread the day he becomes President. The suggestion of playing the 2022 World Cup in Winter was the most ludicrous and stupid I have ever heard in my life.
Sorry, off topic there lads but I just think he is useless in his job. Legend of European Football, but he is just useless in every respect.
Sorry Phil, back to flares...
505 Posted 13/06/2013 at 22:07:34
Also (unrelated to footy) caused a fire in a Brazilian night club that killer 235 students.
They should be illegal.
509 Posted 13/06/2013 at 22:10:16
510 Posted 13/06/2013 at 22:21:35
514 Posted 13/06/2013 at 22:28:26
We can learn a lot from German football on and off the field. The atmosphere at Dortmund and Bayern is something to behold. Tickets there are so cheap and the fans own the clubs. Dortmund's AVERAGE attendance this season was 79,000. AVERAGE. It is unbelievable.
Considering our under-21's dismal performances at the Euros, we are a million miles away from Germany, Spain, Holland, Argentina, I'd say even Belgium too.
At this rate, I don't think we will even make the World Cup, I just don't. It's embarrassing. Big changes have to be made if we are to compete at the highest level.
I think Roy Hodgson is not good enough, we need a high profile coach but due to our old fashioned, stuffy view of football, we just don't consider foreign coaches like Hiddink, Lippi, all with previous WC experience.
Our coaching, the way we play tactically is just so old fashioned and the Euro 21s failure has underlined that. To be BEATEN by Israel, BEATEN is just unforgivable. We need to look towards the German model for our structure in terms of grassroots and coaching, and the Spanish method of playing if we are to progress, because if we don't, I can see Belgium, France or Italy inning a major tournament before us.
515 Posted 13/06/2013 at 22:38:00
Incidentally we won 1-0 and there was a night of reprisals for the infamous Kensington (West London) High St tube station attack in 1978 after Chelsea's 5-year absence from the top division. Hmmm... how times have changed!
517 Posted 13/06/2013 at 22:45:19
I would agree we can learn a lot from their fan ownership of clubs though.
518 Posted 13/06/2013 at 22:39:58
Me to Kev: I thought it was a fashion post. Didn't they look twats back in them days, dressed like they were extras in a Northern Soul documentary.
Oh, the other Flares are dangerous by the way.
519 Posted 13/06/2013 at 22:53:06
Lad I know is hooked on German football now after being a one time Everton and Tranmere season ticket holder and the reason is the support and exuberance of the fans - he's only a young lad but he saved up and has gone over to a few games in different divisions with his family.
Flares aren't necessarily needed to achieve this atmosphere and I agree on the safety aspect already mentioned. So back to the OP and its a no from me Phil.
521 Posted 13/06/2013 at 23:10:02
522 Posted 13/06/2013 at 23:09:14
525 Posted 13/06/2013 at 23:10:32
As to your real point, Phil... Well I have looked at these continental shenanigans and have always worried that someone will have their eye put out. It's an age thing, I suppose.
541 Posted 14/06/2013 at 06:46:56
If someone lit a flare at a sporting event in the States, they'd be behind bars quickly.
No flares for me. Always thought "that's stupid" every time I've seen one on the TV.
Cultural thing? No. Just plain dumb.
543 Posted 14/06/2013 at 07:10:16
544 Posted 14/06/2013 at 07:22:07
Blue smoke bombs on the other hand... nah, they're still shit.
I have never sat at the game thinking 'I wish someone would set off a pyrotechnic.' (Except that one time at Charlton 0-0 Everton when a stadium fire would have been blessed relief.)
545 Posted 14/06/2013 at 07:32:30
547 Posted 14/06/2013 at 08:02:01
Wayne Rooney smuggles one into Old Trafford every week!
561 Posted 14/06/2013 at 09:42:48
604 Posted 14/06/2013 at 13:44:57
606 Posted 14/06/2013 at 13:47:21
Also, how ridiculous do 70s hooligans look today charging across the terraces in flares and scarf tied round the wrist.
611 Posted 14/06/2013 at 14:06:20
612 Posted 14/06/2013 at 14:04:31
Erikson and Capello weren't foreign enough for you Ross?
614 Posted 14/06/2013 at 14:20:24
675 Posted 14/06/2013 at 17:39:14
696 Posted 14/06/2013 at 20:31:12
283 Posted 16/06/2013 at 22:59:39
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