Premier League #3: Everton 2 - 2 Manchester Utd
Everton host Manchester United in the Premier League on Sunday for their third game of the new season.
But it looked like Man Utd had done enough despite a brilliant strike from Tyrique George, with goals from Mbueno and Sesko about to give them the win. That was until the last kick of the game, a tremendous strike from debutant Ainsley Maitland-Niles.
The mood of the Blues fans today will be febrile, to say the least, with anger at the hierarchy over the transfer window fiasco giving way to possible expressions of support for the players and the team we do still have, with David Moyes left to pick them up and put them together into something that can challenge the mighty Red Devils.
Team News
Jack Grealish and Ainsley Maitland-Niles have not been sufficiently integrated into Moyes's squad so both are only on the bench where Braiden Graham comes in... but will he get time on the pitch?
The visitors are unchanged from last week's win over Ipswich.
First Half
Kick-off by Dewsbury-Hall was a bit different, not going back to Pickford immediately. But Barry was bashed into by Maguire who hurt his nose inside the first minute. It was 3 minutes more before Maguire jogged off after treatment and the game resumed.
Everton worked the ball around but could not penetrate effectively. A simple build saw Shaw easily get behind Rohl and Fernandes smashed the cross off the Everton bar with Pickford nowhere near it.
Everton got forward and George's cross was deflected up in the air, Barry trying to trap and falling over, The Blues fans demanding a penalty but there was no foul on him.
Everton repelled another attack but George was cynically pulled back by Dalot, an obvious yellow card... but only a talking to by John Brookes. A terrible giveawy by Dewsbury-Hall saw Armstrong strong-arm Fernandes, and he got a straight yellow... Sly Six favouritism???
Everton were doing well to win the ball back but lacked confidence in what to do with it, eventually punting it up in the direction of Armstrong, playing where you'd expect Barry to be. Armstrong did well to win the ball back but the possession pathway only led all the way back to Jordan Pickford.
Man Utd countered and Tielemans fired at Pickford from a long way out. After a walking-pace build-up, a Fernandes shot was deflected up and behind, Dalaot smacked the cleared corner back into the crowd, Tarkowski blocking.
A really scary Man Utd move saw Rashford dance around Rohl and play it across for Cunha to sidefoot his shot over the bar. Everton countered with a great pass out from Armstrong to Rohl, but he slowed up, passed back to Armstrong, who would not shoot, and back to Dewsbury-Hall, who was closed down. Chance lost.
Shaw and Rashford again showed up Rohl's weakness at right-back, but this time no clear chance developed. Garner won the ball back well but Everton were far too tentative in possession, going all the way back to Pickford eventually.
The Blues built again, but far too slowly, Barry dropping deep. Mykoleno almost got a good cross in to Barry but it was blocked and the Red Devils were building slowly again. A tremendous Rashford cross was read superbly by Branthwaite.
Everton got forward quicker this time but the cross in didn't find Barry. Dewsbury-Hall put Lammens off and Everton almost profited but again were too hesitant with the second and third balls.
Johnson tried to stop Cunha coming down the left side again, and took his man out with a poor tackle: yellow card. The free-kick was cleared, also the workaround, but Everton were living very dangerously.
Rohl and Mykolenko swapped sides, but they were still given the runaround, Man Utd winning a corner. Branthwaite fell awkwardly but Armstrong was wrestling a little.
Mbueno fouled George; Garner's free-kick flicked on and behind by Barry. Everton won a steal in midfield, but Dewsbury-Hall's low cross was poor.
Everton did get the ball back, Barry trying a shot that was blocked back to him, and then did an utterly bizarre non-cross! But a fabulous cross in from Rohl, Barry got into the right spot but could only head powerfully over the bar.
Armstrong tried a clever one-two with Barry that failed. Man Utd attacked and Mykolenko did well, back on the left. Everton had a much better spell, but still did not get close enough for a decent shot, winning only a long throw. It eventually fell to Branthwaite but he could only shoot straight at Lamens.
Man Utd streamed forward with a tremendous move at the end, firstly a superb tackle from Branthwaite on Rashford to stop him shooting, but the ball went out to Shaw, his shot blocked out again by Branthwaite. Absolutely first class defending from the big guy. Half-time: 0 - 0.
Second Half
No changes after the break. Mbueno was allowed to run in from the right side and drive beyond Pickford into the far corner. Shocking. 0 - 1.
Rohl tried to run the ball out of defence but lost it. Dewsbury-Hall put in a great cross but Johnson seemed to duck underneath it rather than leap to head it in. Mykolenko had a shot wide left that would have been better as a cross.
Barry spun his man and looked to advance into the area but thought he could play in Johnson who was easily stalled.
Everton built slowly again, Graner standing on the ball, George playing it back... but eventually he went forward, Dewsbury-Hall playing in Johnson, his shot was blocked and Armstrong's shot also blocked.
But George ran at Dalot again and won a corner, although nothing came of it.
But Armstrong played a great ball through Johnson whose shot was deflected just over the bar. Man Utd surged forward from the corner and it needed a great rearguard tackle from George.
Johnson picked up the ball and drove all the way to the penalty area before inexplicably giving up the ball!
Barry did really well to get int the area but his shot was blocked to Dewsbury-Hall who could only pass it back to Lamens.
Rashford drove in and seemed to eat everyone except Branthwaite, and it needed a great tackle by Tarkowski on Cunha, who went down and wanted a penalty. As Rohl broke away, a really cynical foul by Shaw got him a yellow card.
Rohl rolled Rashford and he saw yellow. From the free-kick, Fernandes sliced his shot well high and wide. Another Man Utd surge saw Tielemas's shot blocked behind by Tarkowski. The corner saw Shaw drive his shot wide and Johnson was replaced by Grealish.
His first involvement saw Mykolenko force a corner, played short for Grealish, Dewsbury-Hall rolling a shot to Lamens, nowhere near a hard enough strike.
Everton won a free-kick in midfield as Carrick made a couple of changes, Garner's lopping lob bouncing off the top of Tarkowski's head.
Everton worked their way forward down the left, Dewsbury-Hall's strike hitting Barry, Armstrong's weak shot dribbling behind. A poor mistake by Garner gave the ball away but Mbueno was stopped. Hackney replaced Rohl.
Garner moved to right-back but then went down hurt after trying to win the ball, Maitland-Niles coming on for him, a right-back at right-back!
Grealish tried to beat Dalot but lost the ball. Fernandes went down in the centre circle after Tarkowski clipped his foot but the referee missed it, Maguire booked for protesting.
Grealish brilliantly drew the foul from Dalot, yellow card! Free-kick glanced on by Branthwaite forcing a punched save from Lamens. But a terrible effort from Mykolenko. But Hackney got the ball out to Tyrique George (83') and he absolutely lashed a screamer past Lamens, a fantastic strike to put Everton back level.
Man Utd tried to respond, with the cross Sesko glancing his unmarked header wide. Another Man Utd attack, Shaw beating Maitland-Niles, and Sesko's header from his cross not fully saved by Pickford as it bobbled over the line.
Grealish tried to drive in a shot but it was blocked as 5 minutes of added time were shown. Barry got the ball through to George but he was yards offside and Lamens pushed his shot behind this time.
Grealish tried to work his way in again, setting up George, but back out to Hackney and his shot was driven over.
Everton attacked again, Dewsbury-Hall winning a very late corner, but it was cleared; however, it was somehow worked around until it was rolled way out to the advancing Ainsley Maitland-Niles (90+6'), who belted an absolutely gorgeous curling strike that Lamens could only watch helplessly fly into the net behind him. What another fantastic strike.
Incredibly, it finished 2 - 2.
Confirmed Lineups
Everton: Pickford; Mykolenko, Branthwaite, Tarkowski, Rohl [Y:64'] (75' Hackney); Garner (77' Maitland-Niles), Armstrong [Y:13']; George, Dewsbury-Hall, Johnson [Y:34'] (66' Grealish); Barry.
Subs not Used: Travers, Keane, O'Brien, Dibling, Alcaraz, Graham.
Manchester Utd: Lammens, Dalot [Y:81'] (84' Yoro), Maguire [Y:79'], Martinez, Shaw [Y:62'] (90+1' Mazraoui); Tielemans, Mainoo (84' Santos); Mbeumo, Fernandes, Rashford (70' Dorgu); Cunha (70' Šeško).
Subs not Used: Darlow, Heaven, Mount, Zirkzee
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2 Posted 06/09/2026 at 12:49:09
3 Posted 06/09/2026 at 13:15:26
Look forward to seeing Grealish in the 2nd half, happy to see Armstrong retain his place as he has started the season well. Decent midfield options from the bench, let's hope Barry is at peak fitness!!
4 Posted 06/09/2026 at 13:46:36
Would have liked to have seen O'Brien next to Branthwaite rather than Tarkowski but I suppose that will only come about with an injury unfortunately.
5 Posted 06/09/2026 at 13:49:34
6 Posted 06/09/2026 at 14:52:10
7 Posted 06/09/2026 at 14:52:40
Johnson and Rohl repeatedly getting torn to shreds down their left.
Hmmm... wonder if we actually bought a right-back in that shambolic transfer window???
8 Posted 06/09/2026 at 14:52:47
We seem to get as far as the edge of the opposition penalty box and run out of ideas and players in the box whereas United quite often look to have at least 2 or 3 choices, we have to get men in the opposition's penalty area even if it's just for the cross and hope.
9 Posted 06/09/2026 at 14:53:50
Apart from that, we played well. As for Branthwaite, he is world class... will end up playing for Real Madrid. What a player.
10 Posted 06/09/2026 at 15:56:14
11 Posted 06/09/2026 at 15:57:30
Please send oxygen and heart meds
12 Posted 06/09/2026 at 15:58:22
13 Posted 06/09/2026 at 16:00:17
14 Posted 06/09/2026 at 16:04:42
George and Hackney are going to be great signings
It just shows with 3/4 players in the window and were right up there, so frustrating.
Very pleased for the Manager and the long suffering fans who have been through the ringer of emotions over the last few weeks
15 Posted 06/09/2026 at 16:04:52
Showed real determination & togetherness, impressed with Hackney when he come on, made a difference.
Sometimes advertisty brings you together, players show more, run more, they really wanted it today, even if we lacked quality at times, they made up for it in effort.
16 Posted 06/09/2026 at 16:07:12
Brilliant subs.
17 Posted 06/09/2026 at 16:08:53
18 Posted 06/09/2026 at 16:10:41
Didn't understand Moyes substitution of Rohl who looked to be having a good game when Garner just doesn't look fit enough which is something we might be glad of given the equalizer, but Hackney must surely be a starter and O'Brien must replace Tarkowski if Moyes doesn't play favourites.
A lot to be sorted out on that display.
19 Posted 06/09/2026 at 16:12:41
Trademark miss by Barry - as predicted that man will lose us a ton of points this season - lost us 4 points already in last 3 games!
20 Posted 06/09/2026 at 16:14:01
21 Posted 06/09/2026 at 16:15:04
22 Posted 06/09/2026 at 16:16:16
The quality of the goals in a comeback effort is enough to convince me of a new era. This is a different collection of players that have some real determination and grit. Armstrong chasing down the backpass to their keeper in the 94th showed me that.
23 Posted 06/09/2026 at 16:22:45
THE BAD: Way too easy for Mbuemo to cut through us on that first goal, we seemed a bit sleepy there starting 2nd half. Pickford maybe should have had their 2nd, was he wrong footed for it? First half hour or so, we seemed reluctant to have a shot or put a cross in, content to knock it about and inevitably go backwards. Dalot's yellow should have been his second.
THE OTHER: Was curious how Moyes would handle Barry, can't see him playing 90+ minutes week in week out and wondered what the substitution would be. Still up in the air.
Anytime you come from behind to get a point, it's a good point, and the end of the match was thrilling. Welcome aboard Ainsley, COYB!
24 Posted 06/09/2026 at 16:22:49
Absolutely fantastic game from him.
25 Posted 06/09/2026 at 16:23:33
26 Posted 06/09/2026 at 16:29:24
Good games from Hackney when he came on and he urged some good attacking play with his energy and passing, provided the assist for the first goal well struck by George and was involved in the second goal.
Maybe it was the tactics but we looked poor passing and picking up the second balls in midfield but those two goals will give fans some belief that the season might not be as bad as we think it could be.
27 Posted 06/09/2026 at 16:31:55
However, both goals we conceded were avoidable.
28 Posted 06/09/2026 at 16:33:27
Hackney was excellent when he came on.
Armstrong was quiet after the yellow ard.
Dewsbury-Hall and Garner were 6/10.
Branthwaite very good.
Tarkowski hot and cold.
Pickford poor.
29 Posted 06/09/2026 at 16:34:59
Grealish and Hackney were also very good when they came on. They might be short of players but the team never gives up. We looked better wth Armstrong at 6, Dewsbury-Hall at 8 and Hackney at 10. Don't think Jimmy Garner is fully-fit.
I wish the manager would start games on the front foot though. When we took the initiative we were the better team.
30 Posted 06/09/2026 at 16:54:03
31 Posted 06/09/2026 at 16:54:36
32 Posted 06/09/2026 at 16:55:11
The noise in the south stand was amazing and played a huge part in sucking them goals in to the net. Pickford should've saved their second goal he was quite poor today. Hackney made a difference when he came on but didn't understand Moyes taking Rohl off for him when Garner was obviously struggling. Worked out quite well though forcing him to bring on Maitland-Niles, what a debut goal that was. Overall, I'm happily dissatisfied
33 Posted 06/09/2026 at 16:57:10
Barry: He missed a great chance, but at least he provides an outlet and is in the middle of things. he also created a couple of opportunities for KDH, which he fluffed. We need to be patient with Barry. But he desperately needs back-up.
Brennan Johnson - I thought he had a poor game. He doesn't deserve to start based on his reputation. Dibling should be ahead of him.
George - what a strike! Incredible.
Dewsbury-Hall - uncharacteristically ineffective in front of goal. He should have buried at least 1 of the chances he got. But he is the heartbeat of Everton.
Armstrong - I am SO, SO grateful that we didn't sell him. On a yellow card for the majority of the game, he still had a terrific game.
Garner - was brilliant in the 1st half, but started fading, and substituting him was the right decision
Grealish - I agree with the comment above that probably the most effective role for him will be to come on with about 30 minutes to play. But knowing Moyes, the next game, Grealish will start left and George on the right, and one cannot have too many complaints about that.
Hackney - was extremely bright when he came on, and created the equalising goal.
Rohl - he is not very good at defending and Rashford repeatedly broke through him with ease in the 1st half especially. But he has pace to burn and his cross that Barry headed over was a peach.
Tarkowski - I sense that he is coming back to his best. He typically takes a few games to warm up, and if he is fit, he should be ahead of O'Brien.
Branthwaite - he exudes confidence and solidity at the back, but our back 4 need to tighten up.
Mykolenko - a solid left back performance. I think he is enjoying himself now with players like Grealish, George playing in front of him. I don't remember a single cross coming in from his side.
Maitland-Niles - what a way to announce himself to the Everton fans. Ironically, Moyes has a selection headache on his hands now!
Pickford - should have done better with the second goal.
Michael, you do a great job with your match reports, but give it a rest with your negative headlines, will you?
"Two fantastic Everton goals steal a point from the jaws of defeat"
"Late Tarkowski strike steals a point at Bournemouth"
"Blues ride their luck to chalk up a good opening win"
But a great day to be a blue. The team must be feeling confident now. Onwards and upwards.
34 Posted 06/09/2026 at 16:57:47
35 Posted 06/09/2026 at 17:09:34
I agree Tarks played well, he was solid, but Mykolenko is so frustrating, he did get some good tackles in but still made quite a few fuck ups
36 Posted 06/09/2026 at 17:13:50
But if Tyrique plays like that consistently and stays fit we won't miss Ndiaye.
37 Posted 06/09/2026 at 17:23:51
He wanted to put ‘Jimmy Garner right back even though he conceded that Garner is not up to full fitness.
Forced into the move - AMN saves the day with a wonderful goal.
Its bizarre decision making once more from Moyes. In his head he thought a less than fit central midfielder was a better option for us to get anything from this game.
Without Garner going off wed have lost this game for certain.
Well done AMN for showing this manager what youre all about - when clearly he doesnt rate you “we need to get to know more about him”.
And well done to Hayden Hackney who I think also entered the field with a point to prove. I dont think hes done anything wrong to be dropped for Garner - and probably neither does he.
38 Posted 06/09/2026 at 17:24:20
Jimmy is not fit but first half played okay, not having a preseason definitely showing.
Rohl is not a right back but his commitment not in doubt. Hopefully Maitland-Niles will slot in there and slot a few more like that in the net again.
For all you Jack knockers, and there's more than a few on here, his class has undoubtedly been missed. If he can stay fit, him and Georgie boy stay wide.
I also think George could be a striker in the making as his obvious weakness at the moment is his poor crossing but he played well and had so much natural and technical ability, he's a player.
Branthwaite was outstanding again today; MotM for me. For now, Armstrong and Hackney have to start together in the middle.
Good point today onwards and upwards.
39 Posted 06/09/2026 at 17:26:22
Amazing analogy.
He also tracked back, closed that Mbueno flank.
But the Cobra was there, he was bouncing and smiling. He was as sharp as a tack.
Man Utd defended stoutly but turned inside out. In the last 15 minutes, both Mykolenko and the amazing Hackney (in 12 months a £100M player) went on overlaps and they know the Cobra will hold the ball and feed them.
CEO, TFG, Moseyiah and players deserve a big pat on the back despite the big errors at the end of window.
40 Posted 06/09/2026 at 17:27:12
41 Posted 06/09/2026 at 17:27:25
I don't know from that outing whether the very affordable AMN is the solution at RB but he's already paid back a decent % of that meagre fee with the injury time equaliser. Only his second ever goal apparently. Good timing...
42 Posted 06/09/2026 at 17:31:46
I like those who see the best in people but a pat wasn't the thing I'm tempted to apply to the backs of our CEO and TFG...
43 Posted 06/09/2026 at 17:34:25
Ndiaye who?… imagine how good we would be with a striker on the pitch? Could be top 4…
Also Maitland-Niles only came on because Garner got cramp, or he would have kept Jimmy at right back!!! Fucking insane!!!
Also great to see the south stand sucking the ball into the net just like the Gwladdy used to do 🥹
44 Posted 06/09/2026 at 17:34:33
However, George played well and he looks like being a good signing and Grealish made a difference.
Moyes has again commented on the small squad, so we will see how we are in January, particularly regarding forwards.
We have a right-back who scores goals in Maitland-Niles and that's a bonus.
45 Posted 06/09/2026 at 17:35:51
Johnson was a worry today, I thought he'd be better. Barry was as expected.
Poor game from Pickford, and Mykolenko was his usual fully committed, but useless self. Left-back is a way bigger problem than right-back, in my humble opinion!
46 Posted 06/09/2026 at 17:46:17
47 Posted 06/09/2026 at 17:52:59
First touch is still shaky but he is getting well positioned for the physicality. I think he will solve that problem of physical distraction in a way Calvert-Lewin never could.
I am starting to be interested in him. Before, it was just too up and down.
48 Posted 06/09/2026 at 18:01:24
What I liked about Hackney was his positive forward passing.
49 Posted 06/09/2026 at 18:02:51
Not sure your angle, may be it is stab in the back innuendo? Not sure unless we are having a chat down the pub, will see what you really mean.
I've been going the match since 1965, we all need to get behind everyone at the club.
Hope you are more a supporter to our great club than a detractor against our club, hope you are more the former than latter, Sir!
50 Posted 06/09/2026 at 18:11:54
I'd have Calvert-Lewin all day long. What really turned my stomach was when the cameras showed Kinnear clapping. He shouldn't have even been there, should have been sacked on Wednesday morning.
51 Posted 06/09/2026 at 18:26:57
I think that's what you get with Johnson. He has the pace and the ability to get in good positions but the quality is lacking.
I think he'll get an okay return of goals in our team because he is a threat. But he'll never be a great player.
52 Posted 06/09/2026 at 18:48:12
Rohl was fine at right-back, no need to change 2 positions, typical Moyes, doesn't want to upset Jimmy, so instead of taking him off (which he should have done), he takes off Rohl, then moves Garner to right-back, Hackney to centre-midfield, and the whole team is unbalanced.
Luckily Garner gets cramp and a proper right-back comes on, who scores a screamer... Moyes accepts the plaudits.
53 Posted 06/09/2026 at 18:53:02
Rohl was on a booking, and hadn't offered that much 2nd half. I can't knock that change, as 2nd yellow and a goal down, it's game over.
Great goal by Maitland-Niles, but needs to do a lot more to stop the Shaw cross. I thought that was poor full-back play, ditto Mykolenko on the first.
54 Posted 06/09/2026 at 18:57:11
I've just seen his press conference also and I have to say, his comments on Maitland-Niles are a thinly veiled dig at the board.
It's fine and well that he might not have the right-back in that he wanted and he wants to make a point about it. But he should give credit where it's due and leave it at that. The lad has come in and taken his chance.
Rohl has done well for us but is less of a right-back than Maitland-Niles. Today, it showed as Rashford had the beating of Rohl every time. But that's no sleight on Rohl; Rashford is a top player.
The point is that Moyes was extremely reluctant to give Maitland-Niles his opportunity today -- and when he's taken it, all Moyes can do is be semi-negative about it.
Then balance that with the realisation that Kenny Tete seems to have been Moyes's number 1 target for the last 18 months -- I'm very glad, even before today -- that he didn't get his man.
55 Posted 06/09/2026 at 19:05:34
Ian is correct: he failed to stop the cross that Sesko scored from. It will be interesting in the coming weeks, but tbh he's going to need all of them -- Rhol, Maitland-Niles and Garner -- to cover the right-back position.
56 Posted 06/09/2026 at 19:08:16
No point singling out Rohl, Garner, or Maitland-Niles when George could embarrass Shaw or Dalot when he felt like it.
It goes both ways.
57 Posted 06/09/2026 at 19:13:08
Barry gets into the defender by space or touch whereas Dom just looks out of the corner of his eye and flinches.
58 Posted 06/09/2026 at 19:17:44
If Hackney can play like that, I can see him playing centre-mid with Armstrong, and Garner playing right back. 3 good footballers that all have something to offer in a blue shirt.
There is a bit of choice in there, as there isn't a huge drop off to Maitland-Niles and Rohl. Comes down to freshness, impact, and state of the game.
59 Posted 06/09/2026 at 19:24:10
Overall, I think Rohl did fine and should have been left there, but then we probably wouldn't have got the fantastic equaliser, Moyes will no doubt take the plaudits.
60 Posted 06/09/2026 at 19:40:10
61 Posted 06/09/2026 at 20:07:33
I think we have the makings of a very good side with young players showing now that we can expect even better in the future. Hackney and George are proving a steal for the money we paid for them, Hackney especially is I think a top player in the making.
As Alan @ 31 says, we missed an opportunity in the window to make this side that bit better and really have a very good season.
62 Posted 06/09/2026 at 20:34:37
What a joy it is to be not getting anywhere and then being able to bring on Grealish. That confidence, he just didn't seem concerned in any way, and then proceeded to just torture the whole team.
Finally they had something to worry about, so great to see panic spread through the team every time he got the ball.
Marvellous.
63 Posted 06/09/2026 at 20:40:47
I hope Moyes's team isn't either Hackney or Garner -- they both have to start. Hackney made the difference, he has got to be before Armstrong and Dewsbury-Hall.
Dan Friedkin smells of Gillette and Hicks...
64 Posted 06/09/2026 at 21:13:01
These players are younger, faster, and more hungry. Now Everton can at least play football and feel like a team again.
65 Posted 06/09/2026 at 21:13:53
I'm glad you were impressed with Hackney. I was. I don't think he's done anything to have lost his place in the starting XI and he came on with a point to prove today.
Given the passive aggressive moments by Moyes about Hackney since we've signed him, I'm guessing he's a player Moyes didn't necessarily want. But he's showed the manager exactly what he can do today.
He's shown some really impressive character there today for me, Hackney, there's a lot more to come from this player
66 Posted 06/09/2026 at 21:20:22
His goal was brilliant. I think any fullback who has played a lot of games in central midfield will often take up a central position when the ball is on the opposite flank. Although I had a great view of the goal, I initially thought the United keeper should have moved his feet a lot better, instead of being rooted to the spot.
I'm glad I watched those highlights though, because that was a top quality strike from our new right-back when he calmly curled the ball right into that top corner!👏👏
67 Posted 06/09/2026 at 21:39:11
To start the match, I wish Dibling played instead of Johnson. As Spurs and Palace supporters have noted, Johnson offers very little besides finishes on the back post, which is nice, but not good enough. If he offered a lot defensively, that would be one thing, but I don't think he does that either.
Also, no one can convince me that Tarkowski should still be starting over O'Brien. What we'd lose in experience, we'd gain in speed, quickness and passing.
Poor of Moyes to miss that Garner needed to come off sooner, because it forced us to use our third substitution moment, which could've been costly.
We're still lacking that defensive midfield play that Gana offered in snuffing out passes between the lines. With Garner still not fit, I'd like to see Rohl there, with Hackney and Armstrong a bit farther forward.
My big concern with Jack coming back was not his quality, which was on full display for all to see; he's a top class player. The worry was that it would stunt George's growth, which it surely will unless Tyrique is comfortable moving to the right. If he is, we'll be tough to deal with on the wings.
Still undefeated, even with some stumbles. And with finishing like today, hard not to feel good after such an ugly week.
68 Posted 06/09/2026 at 21:45:24
He wasn't playing wide enough, which is not something I expected, but I'm not sure if it was because the manager wanted him coming inside to help the midfielders?
I wonder if he could play upfront? Maybe just get him to work hard, and open up his legs and run? Because I'm absolutely certain we are going to need a lot more than Barry until the next window comes around in January.
69 Posted 06/09/2026 at 21:50:33
I like Johnson. I think once he gets into his stride, he will start to score regularly.
I think if Garner needed to come off, he should have spoken up as the previous sub was being made.
70 Posted 06/09/2026 at 22:38:20
71 Posted 06/09/2026 at 22:40:00
There were mistakes for both goals conceded and on another day could have kept them out.
Weve got a good first team IMO and Im happy with how Barry seems to be developing- he often helped knit attacks together and was close to creating some other chances. Yes he makes mistakes but he looks confident and we need to back him, a nice hat trick in north London next week please young man!
Theres enough to be positive about with this team, shame we just dont have the depth to take it to the next level.
72 Posted 06/09/2026 at 23:02:32
I wouldn't swap Branthwaite for any centre-half playing in the Premier League. Future captain. I think we have 6, possibly 7, we can build a team around. We need transfer funds to do that.
73 Posted 06/09/2026 at 23:22:26
Why wasn't our second goal shown again?
74 Posted 06/09/2026 at 23:41:16
I don't see Rohl as a full-back personally, though I suspect Moyes will persevere for a bit, and he wasn't helped today by Johnson who didn't track back and left him exposed in the first half.
I didn't think Johnson gave us much, rarely in the game, can't beat a man. Surprised he came out 2nd half. It would have been sensible to make the Garner - Hackney switch far earlier.
Moyes post-match talked about using all the squad but it still feels he'll have to be dragged kicking and screaming to do so, except in the Carabao Cup probably.
75 Posted 07/09/2026 at 02:00:08
Tommy Carter @ various, good posts 👍🏼
76 Posted 07/09/2026 at 03:51:15
So, given Moyes doesn't fancy Dibling or Alcaraz, I'd bet Johnson gets his chance up there. The problem is he doesn't have the physique to bully defenders, nor the blazing speed to burn them, nor the first touch or moves to run circles around them.
I like being proven wrong about the players whom I see for the first time and don't think they'll cut it — in recent years it's been Barry and Mykolenko for me who, when I first saw them, just didn't seem to have that footballing sense and touch you'd expect of a Premier League player.
I get that Johnson scored a boatload of goals a few years back for Spurs, but we're not a free-flowing attacking team like they were. I think we'll end up feeling like we'd be just as good as with McNeil (who obviously needed to go).
77 Posted 07/09/2026 at 06:57:07
Not a lot Maitland-Nilescould do. He tried but the stop-start was too great tbf.
78 Posted 07/09/2026 at 07:43:19
I'd put Johnson through the middle but I'm not sure it would fit Moyes's game plan.
I'd also like to see Johnson, Grealish and George play as a 3 behind Barry but not sure where that leaves Dewsbury-Hall and Armstrong.
79 Posted 07/09/2026 at 07:46:35
There was much to be encouraged about from that performance. We have a group of young players that have a bit about them -- George, Armstrong, Hackney, Rohl. All future first team regulars in my opinion.
I am hoping Alcaraz and Dibling will be integrated into that group. Going by what Moyes has had to say about the squad size, they will get their chance.
Barry is showing improvement despite that missed header. Harry Maguire knew he had been in a game...
I was not in favour of Grealish coming back but I have to admit his presence gave the whole team a lift when he came on.
Mykolenko is getting forward more. He got skinned for their first goal but he won't be the only fullback to suffer at the hands of Mbueno this season.
Branthwaite got another full game in. Three games a week coming up shortly. I think Moyes will give him a rest here and there. Tarkowski is like Mykolenko, he is good at what he is paid to do -- defending.
Maitland-Niles? Who knows... but if he keeps popping up with goals like that, he will do me.
This group of players are fighters and don't give up. Team spirit.
80 Posted 07/09/2026 at 08:03:48
82 Posted 07/09/2026 at 09:20:34
83 Posted 07/09/2026 at 09:26:02
The roar from the crowd after Maitland-Niles's “top-bin” into the net was absolutely incredible, although the match itself was a mixed bag to say the least. Tarkowski gave his boots away at the end - I only hope he took the cement out first… I'll leave that there... 😂.
But Grealish, despite his relatively small cameo, deserves huge credit for the second goal. His bit of skill led to the corner Maitland-Niles eventually scored from, and his entrance definitely raised the game of Dewsbury-Hall for the better.
Up until Jack's entrance, Dewsbury-Hall had struggled to reach the levels his recent performances suggest he's capable of. Garner too had a definite “off” day before being subbed with cramp.
But Barry, who really should have scored with an earlier header, showed some promise in holding the ball up when he dropped back a little in the second half.
Johnsson, who had struggled in the first half in front of his right-side partner Merlin Rohl, showed real promise with his bursting runs in the second. And Hackney too looked like an excellent buy.
A definite mixed bag today but we also have talent in the squad, a lot of our players are young, which certainly gives me hope for the club's future! :)
84 Posted 07/09/2026 at 09:49:41
That's a very interesting point — Grealish “deserves huge credit for the second goal. His bit of skill led to the corner Maitland-Niles eventually scored from”?
That must be the longest time ever assist recorded!
85 Posted 07/09/2026 at 09:54:45
86 Posted 07/09/2026 at 10:12:07
Not too much to ask.
87 Posted 07/09/2026 at 12:14:01
"Very pleased for the Manager and the long suffering fans who have been through the ringer of emotions over the last few weeks."
You couldn't put it better.
88 Posted 07/09/2026 at 14:42:26
Even when they scored very early in the 2nd half there seemed very little urgency in us stepping up our attacking intent. Dont know whether its on instructions from Moyes but neither Garner or Armstrong ever got in their box, and often decided not to shot from the edge of the box when in space.I thought Carrick did us a big favour when he took Rashford off their most dangerous attacker. Certainly Hackney and Grealish made a big difference when they came on and George scored an absolute blinder. I thought well looks like are getting something from a game that had looked very unlikely when they scored their first goal. But with only 5 minutes of normal time left we still managed to concede what looked like a very late winner for them. But who could have imagined Naitland Miles coming on and scoring a worldy in the last minutes of extra time.
I think what most inside the ground couldnt understand was taking off rohl when it was obvious to everyone that Garner had been struggling with an injury for at least 10 minutes before he eventually had to go off. While I was absolutely delighted with the point thats 2 very late goals in the last 2 games that rescued a point but we surely need to be more attack minded than we are of late.
This morning apparently Moyes has said he doesnt think Grealish will be starting games for a couple of weeks as he builds up his fitness. Thats exactly what Moyes said about Hackney 2 weeks ago. Heaven knows when Norgaard will get a game somewhere round the Xmas period I guess.
89 Posted 07/09/2026 at 14:47:35
The quality of football on display was terrible on all fronts from keepers to strikers.
90 Posted 07/09/2026 at 16:50:36
Meanwhile, what a pity Barry didn't bury that first-half chance. I think I might have made a better effort and I'm a third of his height and 78. Still, we all want desperately to see him succeed.
91 Posted 07/09/2026 at 17:18:25
Everton were still prepared to sign the player, apparently on the same terms, despite the injury. It was the player himself who decided to walk away.
92 Posted 08/09/2026 at 12:30:28
I thought the same but those two fantastic goals will live in the memory while dimming how poor the game really was.
93 Posted 08/09/2026 at 13:25:18
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1 Posted 06/09/2026 at 12:47:19
Let's go!