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Superb Everton power to Villa Park win
Aston Villa 1 - 3 Everton
Match Summary
David Moyes made only one change from his starting line-up for the excellent opening game victory over Manchester United last Monday: Naismith in while Hibbert was out with a neck injury. Villa tried to push the pace from the off but some really sharp and precise interpassing consisting of a superb sequence of 14 laser-like short passes between half the Everton team ended in Naismith teeing it up for Steven Pienaar to curve a superb shot beyond d Given and into the Villa net inside 3 minutes to get things off to a rapturous start at Villa Park.
Everton looked confident with the goal on the board and won their first corner, Baines then crossing superbly to pick out Jelavic on the far post who should have done a lot better, he hardly jumped at all as he headed over rather than under Given's bar.
Steven Naismith was lively on his debut, drawing the foul from Clark as Everton in their handsome white shirts continued to dominate proceedings. Gibson delivered the second corner but it dropped short. Some of the Villa fouls were rather aggressive, Naismith drawing most of them as Jelavic won a third corner, taken by Baines. The delivery was excellent, met expertly by Jelavic in the crowd, but headed just over.
As The Villa came into it a bit more, it gave Everton's defense a chance to shine, a key clearance by Distin allowing Everton to attack, with Osman's shot blocked but the ball coming back a little too quickly to Gibson who teed up and then powered in a half-volley that dipped viciously but flew just over the bar.
On the half hour, Pienaar invited a rare foray forward by Jagielka who scampered after a difficult ball down the right and crossed it first time onto the head of Marouane Fellaini, whose downward header foiled Given, bouncing through his hands and into the Villa net for a vital second goal.
Neville got forward in space down the right-side channel and took the shot himself but it lacked conviction and few well wide. Gibson picked out Jelavic with a great lofted ball but the Croat used his arm to bring the ball down. Jelavic wasn't having much luck and seemed to be getting a little frustrated until a nice bit of work from Fellaini let Baines advance and then cut the ball back inside for a superb first-time strike from the masterthat was unstoppable. 3 — 0 away from home. You can't ask for anything more. Everton imperious, as Howard was forced to make his first real save in first-half injury time.
Jelavic got another chance after the break, but his first-time drive was blocked behind. Naismth was played in beautifully by Pienaar and looked to release his shot but another vital block by Baker took out the Scot and injured him in the process.
Everton did look a bit shakey in defence when a couple of desperate blocks were required. An instinctive ball from Gibson played the ball into the path of Jelavic who was tripped by Clark, red card. Gibson's cheeky curled free-kick was just wide of the angle.
From a free-kick played down the left, Baines produced another immense cutback that was teed up brilliantly by Pienaar with his right foot who then drove the volley left-footed with real venom at Given, forcing the best save of the game. From Baines's deep corner, Distin powered in a header that beat Given but Bent on the line headed it onto the underside of the bar, at least three second-half goals denied to a rampant Everton side.
More wonderful passing set Baines for a run-in where he was bundled over by Lowton going into the area but Michael Oliver decided somewhat questionably that the offence was not inside the penalty area…. although it must have been mighty close!
Yet another brilliant goal chance was squandered by Jelavic when he misjudged a superb cross from Coleman, on in place of Naismith. Coleman then did a trademark head-down charge that had the Villa defenders throwing themselves in his path. With 20 minutes left, Kevin Mirallas appeared for his debut, to replace the commanding Gibson.
Coleman again crossed well, this time for Miralls and Vlarr had to take it off the Belgian's toe as Everton were attacking in waves, seemingly hell-bent on improving the scoreline. But the goal came at the other end, a probing smack by El Ahmadi from 35 yards that moved in the air, sending Howard initially the wrong way.
A great ball from Neville sent Coleman on his way again but his intelligent cutback was perfect for Osman who somehow contrived to stumble over the ball … feet not so clever!
Vlaar then barged over Mirallas as he was setting himself to shot inside the area but it was deemed a good old-fashioned shoulder barge: no penalty given. Jelavic then tried to shoot at the end of a dribble and showed it really needs to be first time or nothing!
Mirallas got into a great posit\ion and fired in a great volley on target off a great Baines cross but it was blocked by a defender. Heitinga came on fro Jelavic, who had picked up a knock.
Kevin Mirallas planted a beautiful header into the Villa net but he had timed his run from just a foot ahead of the last defender to meant Coleman's excellent cross, and was offside. At the other end, Wiemann broke well and whacked the post with Howard beaten, Jagielka having to block the follow-up from Bent.
A lovely backheel by Fellaini in injury time was teed up for Osman but his shot looked tired and weak.
In the end, it was very comfortable, but Everton if anything played better and with more confidence and much better joined up passing for almost the entire match. Somehow, a slew of chances in the second half just would not go their way. But a great start to the season nonetheless.
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2 Posted 25/08/2012 at 16:56:28
Now we have about 10 games that are all winnable, blimey, if injuries stay at bay we should be near the top come Dec! (I know I know, only two games etc etc).
Only downer was that f'k up by Howard, cost Baines points in my fantasy league team! Swerved I know, but he should have saved that. Still didn't cost us in the end so no harm done.
2 games 6 points - I'll take soma dat!!
we're gonna win the league, we're gonna win the league......(allow it!)
3 Posted 25/08/2012 at 17:04:51
Destroyed them in the first half then took foot off the gas a little.
Being greedy, would like to have seen 4 or 5 and a clean sheet...but very happy.
Early days but bottom of the league tonight - RS.
4 Posted 25/08/2012 at 17:03:19
5 Posted 25/08/2012 at 17:14:50
http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/golazo-steven-pienaar-everton-1-0-v-aston-villa/
6 Posted 25/08/2012 at 17:14:18
First half performance was exceptional... 3-0, 63% possession, 9 shots to 1.
Played some great football.
7 Posted 25/08/2012 at 17:21:45
http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/aston-villa-0-everton-3-1st-half-goals/
8 Posted 25/08/2012 at 17:20:10
I just sense a really good season for the Toffees, they are playing with real confidence and it's great to see. Not sure what Moyes has done pre-season but it certainly works. COYB
9 Posted 25/08/2012 at 17:22:53
Once again we're hanging on to the end of the transfer window to...potentially build on the good business done earlier in the summer and compliment an already strong side...Errr
It wouldn't be so bad but the football we've been playing has been absolutely...enthralling at times, with some lovely incisive passing, plenty of variation and attacking threat from multiple angles...Oh!
Anyone else feel like pinching themselves right now?
10 Posted 25/08/2012 at 17:33:17
11 Posted 25/08/2012 at 17:20:25
Gotta mention. Last week watching, commentator emphasis was ManU's injury woes, this week how poorly Villa was playing.
I'm not a "woe-is-us" type, but come on already. Those 2 clubs were outplayed and defeated by a better team proving it.
Same 6 points, I guess. But a little respect is in order.
Who's next?
COYB!
12 Posted 25/08/2012 at 17:29:38
Talking of points er I mean pints i'm still pissed off that Mike Hughes and his dog Dixie were fleeced to the tune of £3-80 for a pint of fucking cider!
13 Posted 25/08/2012 at 17:39:49
14 Posted 25/08/2012 at 17:34:51
15 Posted 25/08/2012 at 17:49:10
20. Liverpool
End the season now thanks.
16 Posted 25/08/2012 at 17:48:41
17 Posted 25/08/2012 at 17:53:33
18 Posted 25/08/2012 at 18:01:32
19 Posted 25/08/2012 at 17:50:56
Everton are starting to swagger. From midfield upwards is looking very fluid in attack, shame Mirallas was offside but he looks like he's going to fit in well. Coleman did his Forrest Gump impression but actually looked a player for the first time in ages. Osman should keep that role in the centre. Gibson is an understated charm. Naismith looked tricky for the first half hour. Carry on like this and the blues are going to start upsetting the big spenders. Maybe need a little more depth before the window shuts as injuries are bound to knacker everything up.
Anyway the score was kept low enough to ensure the Reds stay rooted were they belong.
20 Posted 25/08/2012 at 18:03:18
What a difference compared to how I felt after the first two games of last season.
I know it's early on in the season but it's amazing how just having a few new faces,a settled summer and a seemingly more positive approach has made such a difference to us! Great result today boys bring on the rest I say!!
21 Posted 25/08/2012 at 18:17:33
Villa have gone so far backwards since O'Neill ... he saw the boss was going to dry up the funds and jumped... the heady days of Young, Milner seem a long time ago...
I was happy with Naismiths match.. his first touch wasn't always great but he has been out for so long and also needs to get up to pace... but he worked hard and showed some good stuff....
22 Posted 25/08/2012 at 18:15:11
Happy to continue to eat humble pie over our big Belgian. My old man always thought he'd be a real player once he filled out and could handle his strength. Not the most pleasing on the eye when he rolled in with that fee, but hey we have a real player on our hands with a 5-year contract. I can't see many sides having an answer to him.
23 Posted 25/08/2012 at 18:20:02
24 Posted 25/08/2012 at 18:16:51
25 Posted 25/08/2012 at 18:18:19
We do need more cover for at least one or two positions.
Injuries will cause us grief if no adequate cover is available.
Methinks old miser BK will have the purse strings tight to his back pocket so long as the fans are kept happy.
We have taken in about £18 million and spent £10.5 so far.
Thats Rodders, Yobo and Cahill out and Pienaar and Marallas in.
I hope that Naismith gets fit enough to make a real impact !!
I also hope that Barkley does NOT go out on loan as he may well be needed.
26 Posted 25/08/2012 at 18:14:26
Great performance though and deserved to be
more comfortable throughout.
Hopefully our new boy took note of the more physical nature of the premier league.
His you tube dance videos might have to go on hold for a little while.
27 Posted 25/08/2012 at 18:31:09
28 Posted 25/08/2012 at 17:55:08
For some reason, the media have never liked us. Our history is so much better than the RS, but they are absolutely loved by them. Don't, and never have, understood it. With the RS at the bottom, now they will be saying "the top 38".
29 Posted 25/08/2012 at 18:32:42
30 Posted 25/08/2012 at 18:33:14
31 Posted 25/08/2012 at 18:31:58
Great game again today and plenty of positives.
Game time for Naismith and Marillas. Gibbo looked solid again. Felli, awesome. Baines and Pienaar clicking again. Pienaar seems to have foud his shooting boots since he came back on loan. Defence looked solid apart from Tims effort.
Its good to be blue.
32 Posted 25/08/2012 at 18:20:26
33 Posted 25/08/2012 at 18:43:59
Sorry Mike but you asked for that after the Utd feedback, i'm sure you are laughing though.
Life is good, Life is Blue, Enjoy.
34 Posted 25/08/2012 at 18:40:55
I would have thought it was Grrreat!
Happy happy times.
35 Posted 25/08/2012 at 18:25:44
36 Posted 25/08/2012 at 18:50:39
Absolutely loving this.
37 Posted 25/08/2012 at 18:56:39
38 Posted 25/08/2012 at 18:57:37
Interesting to hear Moyes say he thinks the squad is still a little short! The best equipped its been in ages in my opinion. Still think middle of the park is where we are lightest. Osman and Gibbo looked solid but no-one after that unless Fella drops back which would be a shame they way he and we have been playing...
39 Posted 25/08/2012 at 19:01:01
40 Posted 25/08/2012 at 18:50:28
41 Posted 25/08/2012 at 19:08:33
42 Posted 25/08/2012 at 19:11:01
43 Posted 25/08/2012 at 19:06:44
Naismith showed he's been told to get back with the defense, but showed he can't tackle. Otherwise he played ok, I think. Kevin M. did ok in the twenty some minutes he got.
Jelavic did ok except for his goal that show what an one touch genious he really is.
However, I was more surprised to see how bad Villa was. Or perhaps we made them so bad?
I'd say Villa is going to struggle to keep up this year.
Everton should with a little luck, be finishing in the top four. This is of course if we keep the rest of our players. Our good start could be a course..
44 Posted 25/08/2012 at 19:15:40
45 Posted 25/08/2012 at 19:17:18
46 Posted 25/08/2012 at 19:25:38
How's that Nick West make you feel better?
47 Posted 25/08/2012 at 19:05:39
Tim Howard was a little unlucky in that the ball did move a hell of a lot and his first reaction took him in the wrong direction (but it was where the ball was headed initially) but he should be expected to save them. If it is only an isolated incident then it won't be too much to worry about.
Felli is obviously enjoying his marauding role and it will be hard to drop him back unless Pienaar, Naismith and Mirallas make themselves automatic choices. Thought Mirallas looked okay for a first outing and showed good striking instinct even if he was fractionally offside (imo, should scrap the 'active / inactive' offside rule and go back to the 'clear daylight' one to give the benefit of the doubt to an attacker playing 'on the edge').
Have to tip my hat to Ossie who showed he can still mix it at the heart of the midfield, though I doubt Villa are amongst the strongest in that department.
48 Posted 25/08/2012 at 19:35:39
We were excellent first half but its going to be a long season for the brummies.
49 Posted 25/08/2012 at 19:35:50
But when I'm watching our games, I like a little balance in the commentary. All I'm asking.
50 Posted 25/08/2012 at 19:51:19
51 Posted 25/08/2012 at 20:00:58
52 Posted 25/08/2012 at 19:57:04
53 Posted 25/08/2012 at 19:57:54
54 Posted 25/08/2012 at 20:02:25
We were out of this world today.....................Fact.
55 Posted 25/08/2012 at 20:17:27
56 Posted 25/08/2012 at 20:19:53
57 Posted 25/08/2012 at 20:24:23
Lots of good to build on.....and build on we will.
58 Posted 25/08/2012 at 20:34:04
59 Posted 25/08/2012 at 20:33:07
Loving this fluid shit upfront. Glad to Jelavic scoring again, you always worry that last season was a flash in the pan but he clearly has a touch of class about him.
60 Posted 25/08/2012 at 20:23:37
SAF said Robin the Rich should have had more match time. He never told us who made the decision not to play him. What a load of bollocks.
Look with your eyes, not your ears.
Good players, playing well together. As I said, if the link up between Fellaini, Pienaar and Baines towards the end of the game had been Brazil, or a Sky team, the BBC would be showing the clip for 30 years.
61 Posted 25/08/2012 at 20:43:59
62 Posted 25/08/2012 at 20:58:34
63 Posted 25/08/2012 at 21:06:51
64 Posted 25/08/2012 at 21:20:33
65 Posted 25/08/2012 at 21:25:08
66 Posted 25/08/2012 at 21:34:15
67 Posted 25/08/2012 at 21:36:16
On a completely different note, does anyone know what's happened to Blue Kipper? Always like to check around the sites for more good news and it seems like they've forgotten to renew their domain or something?
68 Posted 25/08/2012 at 21:38:53
69 Posted 25/08/2012 at 21:46:47
He's..the presence.
70 Posted 25/08/2012 at 21:52:38
71 Posted 25/08/2012 at 21:56:56
72 Posted 25/08/2012 at 22:00:19
73 Posted 25/08/2012 at 21:50:10
74 Posted 25/08/2012 at 21:58:29
He seems to be a quiet, effective driving force and it means Felli can reek havoc in the ACM position
If we lose either to injury (and we will) its then that things will start to go wrong
If we can bring in another CM who can really add to the squad id be a very happy bloke, and I already am pretty happy!!!
and id have discounted Rodwell as he was never fit and seemed to totally lack in self belief for us
75 Posted 25/08/2012 at 22:03:18
76 Posted 25/08/2012 at 21:51:20
All I can say to add to this is 2 down 36 to go... COYB
77 Posted 25/08/2012 at 22:05:50
78 Posted 25/08/2012 at 22:00:52
79 Posted 25/08/2012 at 22:07:44
80 Posted 25/08/2012 at 22:09:23
81 Posted 25/08/2012 at 22:13:11
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xt1yii_aston-villa-vs-everton-25-08-2012-ahmadi-goal-1-3_sport
82 Posted 25/08/2012 at 22:19:58
83 Posted 25/08/2012 at 22:20:13
84 Posted 25/08/2012 at 22:25:24
85 Posted 25/08/2012 at 22:23:51
Sczezny and De Gea are young and have made their gaffes, unless we went out and bought Buffon or Joe Hart, who would be guaranteed to be better than Howard. I normally owuld have said Shay Given, and on a free he would have been a good move but then he made his howler today. Perhaps we scrutinise our keeper more than every other keeper in the league when the reality is that most of them are all making the same mistakes. If that's one of his gafffes this season then at least it didn't cost us any points.
86 Posted 25/08/2012 at 22:29:18
87 Posted 25/08/2012 at 22:30:57
88 Posted 25/08/2012 at 22:29:14
Regarding who is better than Howard, Hart, Vorm and I've always rated Jaaskelainen.
89 Posted 25/08/2012 at 22:38:34
90 Posted 25/08/2012 at 23:06:30
Well done Moyes and the boys long may it continue.
91 Posted 25/08/2012 at 23:10:34
Wigan have sold Moses and have some cash. We flog em Big Vic for £5M and then put that with left over Rodwell money to buy Dembele for £10m. He's young, can play anywhere in midfield (though I would play him alongside Gibson), and would be keen to come join his countrymen. Plus he was the best player by a mile at Old Trafford today and at Fulham in the first game last week.
92 Posted 25/08/2012 at 23:13:44
Everton should be allowed to show a soft spot now and then. As long as it's not too often. I believe we all rate Howard up there, among the best. I know I do.
93 Posted 25/08/2012 at 23:20:45
94 Posted 25/08/2012 at 22:12:33
Felliani played fantastically again, Gibson was very good (has he lost weight he looks more fit), Osman was great, Mr. One Touch was great, Mirallas I thought looked extremely effective for his first time out.
God!
Only thing that was a bit disappointing... I didn't think Naismith played particularly well. Not bad, but he got roasted once out wide and I thought he actually looked a little slow. Out of shape perhaps? I do think he will come good, but today he didn't shine.
Probably because everyone else around him is playing so well. Don't mean to be harsh.
Praying for no serious injuries. If that happens, the sky seems to be the limit.
95 Posted 26/08/2012 at 00:20:07
96 Posted 26/08/2012 at 00:28:55
97 Posted 26/08/2012 at 00:27:43
Get well soon Sheeds.
98 Posted 26/08/2012 at 01:43:57
"But he is such a complete player that Moyes must decide whether his terrifying depredations, deployed behind Nikica Jelavic, compensate for a corresponding void in front of defence. Fellaini's stats last season were just ridiculous, from distance covered to passes to tackles. The 190 occasions he won possession in midfield compared with 164 by Alex Song, No 2 in the chart."
Of course it is only an opinion, but I think this will be debated / discussed a lot this season.
As you alluded to, it is perhaps Gibson's contribution that is key to the whole thing.
Personally, I would like us all to reserve judgement until the new recruits have had a chance to properly 'bed-in' and until we have played against teams that will give us more to focus on in the middle of the park than Villa could manage today.
I think there was an element of relaxing a little bit too much late on today, which is understandable given the opposition on the day and the stage of the season, and Felli may have suffered a little from his exuberance in the attacking phases of our game.
Overall, I guess we should be grateful we do have options and trust that if one formation / selection won't suit all of our games we make the right choices for each occasion.
99 Posted 26/08/2012 at 02:05:37
100 Posted 26/08/2012 at 04:36:26
Really a percerptive comment about how he is not the same as a few years ago. We all get older and a bit slower. I'm sure you can't type commenst as quick as you used to..
It really bugs me when people who will only get as close to the field as a keyboard talk about WHAT they would have done or what should happen. This applies to Tim but everyone on the team that gets slagged off.
COYB from across the pond!
101 Posted 26/08/2012 at 05:06:07
As unbelievable as the bloke who had a go at me in the live forum for questioning Mirallas being caught offside when he could see the whole line and had no-one near him.
102 Posted 26/08/2012 at 05:39:24
De Gea had one good match against us. Not a typical De Gea display but, credit where credit is due, he had almost as good a match as Fellaini did. Maybe he's starting to come good, I don't know but right now I'll take howard.
103 Posted 26/08/2012 at 05:45:33
I'm so sick of this line of thought that because "supporters" aren't paid to play, they are entitled to say or criticize whatever they want. Anyone can say anything they want. But what we have these days is a culture where people just love to criticize others who do jobs that they could never do. Everyone just loves to criticize, somehow has the answers, but for some odd reason they don't do these jobs that through the keyboard they seem to be so well qualified. Yes you're entitled to an opinion. But you not being paid hundreds of thousand to play has nothing to do with anything. That just makes you sound jealous and petulant. If Howard was only paid the salary as a policeman would you suddenly be unable to offer an opinion on him?
104 Posted 26/08/2012 at 05:53:33
105 Posted 26/08/2012 at 04:29:40
I wonder how we will look when the whole team is 100% sharp and fit. Villa is a bad team now, relegation is close for them, so I am looking forward to better opposition because I fell asleep during the game it was so one-way traffic.
We have a decent off-the-line start but we still have 36 more games to play.
106 Posted 26/08/2012 at 06:18:35
I've watched and played enough football to know when someone has made an error. I rate Howard but he is prone to occasional errors. I don't need to be a top class keeper to make that comment.
107 Posted 26/08/2012 at 06:25:31
108 Posted 26/08/2012 at 07:47:19
109 Posted 26/08/2012 at 10:32:28
The team is playing well. Naismith looked handy, Mirallas was pretty good in his cameo but once again the stars of our attack were Felli/Baines/Pienaar/Jeleavic. If we can keep those 4 fit and firing on all cylinders then there isn't a game between now and December that I don't fancy our chances of being able to win. If we can get Mirallas to have as much impact as Pienaar does then god help every other team in the league.
I think we can safely say that relegation isn't going to be a worry this year.
110 Posted 26/08/2012 at 10:23:22
111 Posted 26/08/2012 at 10:43:12
Ask Wenger and Mourinho among the most successful managers of the last 20 years yet probably wouldn't have got game for Runcorn. I wouldn't argue their judgement of a footballer.
112 Posted 26/08/2012 at 11:07:32
Even at my (pub) football level every once in a while a striker hits a ball in a way that makes it move in an unexpected way through the air. When that happens you, as a keeper, are happy to get anything at all on it because you've had to readjust your position.
Howard would've been cold too having had nothing to do until that point. Call it goalies union but I think we have much bigger priorities than changing our keeper. Both Given and Jaaskelainen had howlers yesterday worse than Howard, it's the keepers curse that no matter how good you are you will always end up looking like a clown from time to time.
113 Posted 26/08/2012 at 09:41:38
First, I thought Naismith played really well, he always seemed to have time and his distribution and short passing game were faultless — don't forget he was taken out by dangerous tackles two... possibly three times and he just got on with it.
Also, the shout about Dembele is spot on: with him in the team, we would have every position covered... great pace vision and a goal threat too! Now surely if Bill could raise the £10 million required, we would be even more likely to push on...
114 Posted 26/08/2012 at 12:25:37
115 Posted 26/08/2012 at 13:01:01
All in all, though, if the lads keep this standard of football going, we are in for a very good season!!
116 Posted 26/08/2012 at 13:36:59
Two difficult games against opposition we normally struggle with... Man Utd at home and Villa, away terrible records down the years... but we've made the two of them look like pub sides. I can't believe how good I feel today; I just hope it's not a false dawn.
A tricky trip to WBA next week but we should just have enough for them. My only gripe about yesterday, and it is a small one: the goal we conceded — Howard should have well had it... but hey I'll forgive him for that, they all make mistakes.
ps C'mon City!
117 Posted 26/08/2012 at 14:08:40
He was allowed to move on to further his career as he was unlikely to displace Tim Howard. In my opinion, he still would be second-choice at the moment.
118 Posted 26/08/2012 at 14:17:28
Even the very best, muck up, sometimes with alarming regularity. Cech, whilst great for the majority of Chelsea's Champions League run, has made far too many domestic (and international) howlers, and would have been replaced by some teams by now. Reina, previously dependable, has been suprisingly error prone over the last few seasons. Friedal, whilst age has something to do with it, has also made an increasing amount of mistakes, such as the awful misjudgement in the QPR game. De Gea... well, he is a wonderful shot stopper, but he has made errors of Gomes-esq proportions.
Perhaps it's the result of the new balls, but goalkeeping errors have been on the increase. Last season, Howard was one of the best in the division. Arguably, based on last season, only Hart, Krul and Vorm played better... but it would be madness to replace him.
And Ruddy? don't mention Ruddy... I can't believe anyone who watches Football would rather have Ruddy in goal than Howard. He is like a slower version of Paul Robinson, an apt number two, but not a goalie for a team of our capacity.
Amazing performance yesterday...I have to keep pinching myself. Villa have issues, especially with the integration of a new defensive line-up, but very few teams will play like we did at their place this season. Pienarr has started where he left off, Gibson is playing superbly, Jelavic's first time finishing is Ruud like, Fellaini is a beast, Osman is looking very good, and our back four is one of the best in the divisions. Also, incredible cross from Jags yesterday for Fellaini's goal.
I thought before the season, that top four was beyond us. I rate our team, but alot of the teams fighting for fourth (Chelsea are nailed on third imo) have bigger and better squads. However, it has to be considered a possibility, because we have started this season, like we ended the last. Spurs have weakened their squad, and have an issue with Modric, Arsenal have lost RVP but added good players, Liverpool are a mess, and we can certainly match Newcastle, esp with the African Cup of nations in January severly effecting them potentially.
But, I think we must invest a bit more. I know we don't have money, I know we have to be careful, but I think this season, might be the season to take a bit of a risk. Imo, we need to bring in another central midfielder, and another creative player for the squad. If possible, another striker is obviously needed, but we have brought in Mirallas, and have others, albeit of a lesser quality.
I'm really hoping we get the couple of players I believe we need for the squad, but if we do, and with the potential of Cahill and Donovan on short term loans in January, I don't see why we cant have a real go at it this season. COYB
119 Posted 26/08/2012 at 15:40:42
I'm delighted that he's gone on to be Norwich's number 1 but I don't think we missed out as he would still be playing second fiddle to Howard had he stayed at Everton.
Also from Ruddy's point of view he would not have been able to develop into the keeper he is now as a number 2.
Vorm on the other hand looks to be the real deal, but his value is probably up around £5-7m after last season.
120 Posted 26/08/2012 at 15:51:00
We're a better side than them hands down.
121 Posted 26/08/2012 at 16:16:15
This "he's paid hundreds of thousands to do a job so I'm entitled to criticize" is idiotic. If his pay is the reason you're entitled to criticize, then what would be the threshold where you lose the right to criticize? The answer is there isn't a threshold. There is no amount of money paid that either gives you the right to an opinion or takes away your right to an opinion.
122 Posted 26/08/2012 at 18:11:47
123 Posted 26/08/2012 at 19:15:49
124 Posted 26/08/2012 at 20:38:55
"he's paid hundreds of thousands to do a job so I'm entitled to criticize".
You forgot to mention the main reason: jealousy.
125 Posted 26/08/2012 at 20:56:39
Bogie team de-bogiefied.
Other points. Mirallas looks exciting. Humble pie tastes delicious re: Fellaini. Maybe Howard's concentration had dropped due to our 3 goal lead, as any player in any position can be guilty of that.
126 Posted 26/08/2012 at 20:49:35
Eg. a part timer paid expenses might be excused heading the ball like a threepenny bit head whereas yer actual Premiership player paid thousands would be expected to soar like a leaping salmon nodding the ball perfectly into the top corner.
Both are footballers but as their wages rise so to does expectation however the threshold of "allowed shiteness" drops, it's a footballing version of Boyle's law in Thermodynamics which I won't quote because I'm getting fig rolls just now.
127 Posted 27/08/2012 at 04:16:01
Howard is getting on and does make the odd howler but as someone said, there have been a lot of mistakes already. I think the new ball has something to do with it. Even defenders are at it (Collins and the red sh-te...?).
As for Dembele - Oh yes!.....and may be cheap depending on contract.
Come on you Blue Boys!!
128 Posted 27/08/2012 at 04:29:59
The reason for this effect is that a gas is made up of loosely spaced molecules moving at random. If a gas is compressed in a container, these molecules are pushed together; thus, the gas occupies less volume. The molecules, having less space in which to move, hit the walls of the container more frequently and thus exert an increased pressure.
Yes, it all makes perfect sense, Barry, and if we apply a bit of heat we can apply Charles Law to the argument.
129 Posted 27/08/2012 at 05:05:15
130 Posted 27/08/2012 at 06:34:34
Three or so years ago we were beating the teams that we should beat and that puts you in the top 6... unfortunately we had a terrible record against the top 5.
In the last couple of years that trend has been reversed, which has put us outside the top 6.
If we can start confortably disposing of the likes of Southampton at home then we'll be on our way to a special season.
131 Posted 27/08/2012 at 08:09:52
They lack a goalscorer but the signs are worrying. They are going to be in the mix no doubt, as will arsenal who did everything but score against a resilient stoke yesterday.
We will have to steer clear of injuries and keep up the high level we have started at of we have any ambition of challenging for a champions league spot.
132 Posted 27/08/2012 at 08:12:50
133 Posted 28/08/2012 at 03:45:46
134 Posted 28/08/2012 at 12:11:30
http://footballblog.co.uk/nottingham-forest-fan-asks-right-man-football-management.html
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1 Posted 25/08/2012 at 15:00:51