Moyes: Consistency will be key

Is this not what Roobie C said on another thread?

"Folk think I'm defensive," he says, "but I was brought up on the best attacking team ever in terms of style and what was demanded, Glasgow Celtic. I have also played under coaches who showed me another style.

"I want my team in the opponents' half having shots. I've only been brought up that way and no other way.

Okay - delightful, deadly, direct, defensive-not-minded, destructive, dreamy, delectable, delicious, dangerous, droll, dynamic, dazzling, deadly-modish, deadly-stylish, decisive, defo-bubbly, defo-upbeat, dignified, decent, drenched-in-sun, dashing, desirable (dare I say), determined, Daracott – no way, Duncan McKenzie – all the way, dashing, debonair, defo-chic, dapper, dead nice — MOYSEY

Pete Barry mate, walking the road to Damascus.

I'm all Ds, dizzy

Deity dedicate deserving, defence-fuck-that-build-from-the-front, Davey. Deify DM

As Eugene Ruane once said, in an aside admittedly, watch The Arrows get better with each new single, don't judge them on 'Babe I want you not yesterday but today', As usual, as night follows day, ER was spot on.

It seems that some of Moyes' quotes could be direct responses to some of us on TW. Defensive-minded? He's saying he's not.

There's a similar report on http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/everton-fc/everton-fc-news/2012/10/06/100252-31977444/? which quotes Moyes as saying "I have always had the philosophy that winning is everything". Seems like another direct rebuttal against the accusations that he's a coward setting his team out "not to lose".

The final stick that we've been beating him with regarding the amount of time he's had at the club without winning anything - he seems to counter with the excuse of not having enough "tools" (i read money). There it is boys, straight from the horse's mouth so to speak.

I suppose if anything, he's at least in a way responded to some our exasperations in this article. Some of us may take what he says with a pinch of salt, but I think if some of us are more than willing to beat Moyes on the head with his "knife to a gunfight" or "relegation escape is priority" quotes, perhaps we (I'm including myself) should be more patient his approach to managing Everton.

"David Moyes feels that his current squad is the best he has had since the 2004/05 team that earned Champions League qualification"

This current team is much, much better than that team. Unfortunately so are about four or five other teams in the division.

Paul, did national poetry day get to you a bit the other day maybe? Some of those Ds required a massive crowbar, sorry, Dcrowbar.

Marcus, I love the idea of Moyes reading Toffeeweb and taking on board what we're saying. In fact, I like to think of him in his office going "that Mike Allison, he really knows what he's on about, I better give him a job". Unfortunately, I doubt it, and I kind of hope he doesn't feel he has the time to do that either. Actually, maybe that could be my job for him...

Wonder if Peter Barry would ever admit that maybe, just maybe Moyes was playing his best team available whilst hoping to get a chance to add more balanced attacking players to achieve what we have now, which is an attacking team that also looks relatively solid when it has to.

He hasn't had the right tools to play football? He has been in the job for over 10 years, if he didnt have the right players then its cos he didnt buy the right players, he is the only one who can take responsibility for that.

I'm made up with the football we're playing this season but why is he trying to kid us this is how he has always wanted to play? If that the case why has he on a number of times sent teams out with no forwards,6 defenders and 5 players out of position.

So true Paul #315
I mean Moyes transfer kitty has been limitless. When I think of the millions he spashed out on Beckford, Velios, Saha & still he couldn't get a 20 goal a season striker.

Brendan

So teams can only play football with a 20 goal striker? He might of not had a lot of money to spend but most clubs don't and upto this year we were playing the worst football in the league for a very long time.

Paul #318
Recently up until this year Moyes had no money to spend. He got some back in January & brought Pienaar, Jelavic & Gibson in and we're now playing the best football in the league for a very long time. People can waffle all they like about our turnaround in form but I've no doubt it's cos Moyes bought & bought well.

I'm not going to disagree with that but Moyes has changed his ways, a couple of years a go I have no doubt he wouldn't have sold Rodwell out of stubborness even though it means he can go out and buy players in position we need, the same way if he had his way he wouldn't have sold Lescott, how can he think Lescott was worth more to the club than £24m (granted I don't think he used that money too wisely).

Even when he didnt buy a player for a couple of years we still had some good players like Arteta and Pienaar while still playing piss poor football.

Oops! Didn't really mean to say that David Moyes reads TW... well who knows. Just found it interesting that quite a few of his quotes could be interpreted to be direct responses to many of our moanings.

Now, what would I pay to see DM get into some of our TW discussions :)

Marcus #352
Apparently Moyes posts under another name...Martin Mason

Brendan, that'd be a cruel comment even if you were Moyes' fiercest critic!

I'm not sure if Moyes is spot on re the consistency of the 2004-05 squad – we gained more than 25% more points in the first half of the season than we did in the second half.

Err Denis #384
04/05 good first half of a season, shite second ...consistent?

Er Brenda 386 - Exactly!

Methinks Brendan #317 was either being a little sarcastic or stupid. You choose

Saha - free
Beckford - free
Vellios - £250k

It was the fact that he had no money to spend and I think some of you fell into his trap.

Brendan, a man after my own heart, light blue touch paper, stand back and start smirking

Denis #390
I'm only Brenda at the weekends & in the privacy of my own home...you a spying neighbour?

You'd best hope Martin doesn't ask for pictorial proof, Brenda!

Dennis#396
Actually I do have a website brenda @ wwww....
FFS... Michael K's gonna ban me again.

I don't really read football magazines these days, mainly due to the fact that they're all shite; however, there is one that I have enjoyed over the last year or so. It's called 'Back Pass' and basically looks back to the 60s, 70s and 80s. It's not genius or anything, but if you're my age (53) it's an enjoyable read.

Anyway, I was flicking through a recent issue (the one with David Webb on the cover) and there was an article in there about some lower league yard-dog who had been booked 23 times in his career and was forever getting the elbow from clubs, getting bladdered and chinning people (there were a lot of these fellers knocking about back then).

I can't remember his name (and I left the mag on a flybe flight coming back from Dublin yesterday) but he was it seems at Cambridge (I think) when Moyes was there. When asked about Moyes he says something along the lines of "He was alright, I didn't really mix with him though – he was 'part of the God squad there'.

Now in the past I have referred to Moyes as a Presbyterian, but I have only ever meant this 'philosophically' (ie: cautious, not given to shows of excess etc). Anyone know if there something more than this? I know on the US golf circuit there are a whole bunch of God botherers and reading this made me wonder if a) there's a PL version or b) even better/worse, an Everton version?

Let's face it it, Moyes did everything he could to facilitate the return of Steven 'God is great' Pienaar. Plus if you if you remove the letters J-A-I-E-L-K-A from the name Jagielka and replace them with the letters O-D-R-U-L-E-S-!, you get 'God rules!"... kind of.

I know pre-renaissance Moyes teams attracted criticism but I don't think Moyes should call them "Tools".

Defensive, lacking pace, limited -– surely that's enough.

That's funny, Eugene, I could have sworn you had picked up on his religiosity in giving him the amusingly fitting 'Presbyterian' label. I thought the topic of his belief in superstition had come up a few years ago and was common knowledge but he has kept it pretty quiet to be fair.

I didn't follow the Ryder Cup too closely but it would hilarious if the US team had been relying on divine intervention to see them through at the end, only to be caught by those heathen Europeans! The devil works in mysterious ways!

The number of guys in the Premier League (mostly imports) genuflecting as they come on the pitch or supplicating to the heavens when they score seems to have increased many-fold. Perhaps the turnaround this season is divinely inspired – big daddy in the sky had a word on the way down Tottenham Court Road...

Michael, just once (ONCE!) after a sporting event (preferably boxing) I would love to see a/the loser respond..

Boxer: "What went wrong? Well....nothing 'went wrong'. I was fit, I was ready, had the right game plan, training couldn't have gone better but...well, it's obvious. It was (points upwards) him. Truth is tonight he fucked me up good and proper"

Interviewer: "So...would you say this has shaken your faith in God?"

Boxer: "SHAKEN MY FAI.....listen, I'm going to take few weeks off, spend some time with my family and then I'll be back in training and when I return, I'll have a fucking big pentangle on the front my shorts and a goat's head on my robe. I'm with Satan now. Yeah ok he might be a bit of a shit-house but at least you know where you are with him"