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Everton confirm Moyes's departure to Man Utd
Manager will oversee Blues' last two games
Everton have confirmed that David Moyes will leave the Club at the end of the season, after telling Bill Kenwright of his desire to take up the reins at Manchester United. Moyes will continue to serve out his contract as Everton boss for the final two games against West Ham and Chelsea before calling time on his 11th and final full season at Goodison Park.A statement on the Club's official website provided confirmation of news that first broke yesterday following Sir Alex Ferguson's decision to retire after 26½ years at the United helm:
Everton can confirm that David Moyes will leave the Club at the end of the season.The Manager met Chairman Bill Kenwright early yesterday evening (Wednesday 8th May) and confirmed his desire to join Manchester United.
The Chairman, on behalf of the Club, would like to place on record his thanks to David for the massive contribution he has made to Everton since his arrival in March 2002. He has been an outstanding Manager.
The announcement confirms widely reported speculation yesterday that Moyes will assume arguably the daunting twin tasks of succeeding the world's most successful manager at the helm of England's biggest and most successful club. He signs a six-year contract and will take charge of his final two games with the Blues against West Ham on Sunday and Chelsea the following week before calling time on 11 years at Goodison Park.
Moyes described the task of filling Ferguson's shoes an honor but also paid tribute to the club he leaves behind having established himself as one of the most admired managers in the game.
"It's a great honour to be asked to be the next Manager of Manchester United. I am delighted that Sir Alex saw fit to recommend me for the job."
"I have had a terrific job at Everton, with a tremendous chairman and Board of Directors and a great set of players. Between now and the end of the season, I will do everything in my power to make sure we finish as high as possible in the table.
"Everton's fantastic fans have played a big part in making my years at Goodison so enjoyable and I thank them wholeheartedly for the support they have given me and the players. Everton will be close to me for the rest of my life."
Meanwhile, Everton Chairman, Bill Kenwright, must begin in earnest the not insignificant task of finding Moyes's replacement. Wigan Athletic manager, Roberto Martinez, has been installed as the bookmakers' early favourite, while Swansea City's Michael Laudrup, ex-Sunderland boss Martin O'Neill, Celtic manager Neil Lennon, and former Goodison striker Mark Hughes have also been mooted as being on the shortlist of candidates.
It is not clear how firm the Board's list of candidates is, however. Though Moyes's decision to leave his deliberations over a new deal at Everton until the end of this season pointed more and more towards the possibility that he would be leaving Goodison this summer, reports yesterday suggested that Kenwright was not prepared for the news that his manager was about to accept the role at Manchester United.
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2 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:40:15
3 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:41:01
4 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:41:34
5 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:41:24
Everton F.C. - onwards and upwards!
Nil Satis Nisi Optimum.
6 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:41:31
Fucking shambles as per.
7 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:42:36
8 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:44:29
9 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:41:47
10 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:44:02
11 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:44:15
It's been above average, former Everton Manager Moyes.
12 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:44:05
His presence on Sunday will be an embarrassment. What influence can he now have on players,tactics etc??
13 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:46:18
14 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:45:39
15 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:45:17
Good luck David. You ginger king you! Trophies are soon to be yours.
16 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:47:38
17 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:47:13
18 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:49:31
And apparently continuing to pay him until then
Contracts, eh?
20 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:49:00
Thank you David Moyes but I think you should go now as I am ot sure what purpose it will serve hanging on for 2 games?
21 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:49:01
the possibility exists that we will actually be able to watch free-flowing football next season without shithouses like Naismith and without the gang of "favorites" running around like headless chickens. oh! and we might be able to see some of the kids actually play!
Duffy's fucking chuffed!
TY David Moyes. Best of luck. But it's now time to turn a page.
22 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:51:52
23 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:52:11
24 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:49:37
CLUELESS TWAT !!
KENWROIGHT OUT !! KENWRIGHT OUT!! KENWRIGHT OUT !!
...and as for Mark Hughes being linked as the next manager....please god NO !!!
25 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:52:11
26 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:51:56
27 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:54:29
Now let the flowing football roll again.
28 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:49:14
29 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:54:13
30 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:52:49
31 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:52:54
Yeah, its possible we can sign Hiddinck or Bielsa etc, but my money is on some type of manager we all fear. Mark Hughes etc.
32 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:53:43
33 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:51:15
Reminds me of an old manager of mine who, when recruiting for an open position, once said "I've got the best candidate for the job. He fits all the criteria...he is cheap and available!"
34 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:48:02
35 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:52:17
36 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:54:38
37 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:53:46
We'll probably have to go to OT first thing in 2013/14 :( You know how the "fixture computer" likes to play games).
Either that or it'll be first home game after we've played Swansea at the Lib on day one after nabbing Laudrup.
Surely we can't have United (H) opening game two years on the trot?
It's going to be one of those
38 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:56:12
Why did he have to leave... whhyyyyyy!
39 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:49:14
40 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:52:41
How football has changed since I was a kid. Back then winning the league was open to any team, including those that just gained promotion. The moneybags league we have nowadays is boring.
I hope we find a good replacement!
41 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:56:41
42 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:56:42
We are as skint as skint can be...
43 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:55:59
45 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:57:04
If they sign a Hughes or a O'Neill I will stand hand in hand with you and call today Everton's darkest.
But, again with the right appointment, this could be a very welcome change for the Club
46 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:54:39
Thanks David gave us a bit of pride back but no trophies,at least you will win at OT now.
47 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:58:46
Horrible to have to worry about a shit appointment, and compensation payments.
48 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:59:18
49 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:59:06
50 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:51:14
Even if he'd delivered CL qualification this season, he couldn't turn down the opportunity to manage the biggest team globally.
I'm sure Man U wanted this kept quiet till season end, obviously someone spilled on Tuesday. (They're yet to confirm DM officially!) I'm also sure this was planned way before the news about Fergie's hip replacement. Therefore the board should've had plenty of time to work out a shortlist, and start the groundwork.
The only crumb of comfort is with his heatshield gone, BK will be shown up for the carpet bagger he is. I can only hope we don't fall too far before we're finally rid of that regime and able to start to rebuild.
51 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:00:09
52 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:57:23
He should be thanked, and asked to clear his desk. This is all so fucking small time again - they are our rivals FFS.
I honestly despair how low we have sunk.
Hoorrraaayyyy for Dave - he's left this small club and got the job of his dreams.
53 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:54:24
For what it's worth, good luck Moyes. And thank you for the memories - the sparse jubilation, the frequent frustration and for the moments of magic along the way... There may be no silverware in the cabinet, no statue at Goodison but I think in general, history will judge you positively...
54 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:55:46
Velios injured doing cartwheels (apparently)
Baines, Fellaini and Jags pleased they won't have to move house
Only Everton could entertain the prospect of a rival manager remaining in charge of the team
Couldn't make it up
55 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:48:02
56 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:00:37
57 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:02:15
58 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:50:04
David Moyes was the best thing at Everton FC. The fact that he has gone to Man Utd just makes me feel worse. At Everton he has made average players into top notch ones and has worked magic in the confines of a very, very limited budget.
The Everton fans that appreciate the financial state of the club will recognise that David Moyes has done incredible. Do I wish him luck in his next job ?? Absolutely not !! But there is no denying the fact that United are getting a very, very good manager.
The next manager ???
Martinez for certain would take us down.
Whoever it is I just hope that the board make the right choice. Everton is no ordinary club and a lot of thought must go into it.
A very nervous Everton fan !!!
59 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:00:34
60 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:50:49
If Kenwright and Elstone had more than the business sense of a fucking rocking horse they'd have suspected this and put something in place to ensure we got something approaching reasonable compensation. As it is, just like with Rooney, we've allowed the richest club in the world to rob us blind again.
The fact that Moyes is, I believe the only Everton manager to leave us for another club is confirmation, if there was indeed any doubt, just how far down Kenwright and his cronies on the board have taken us over the past twenty years. Part of me doesn't care who we get in as a new manager - until we get rid of this disgrace of an owner and his know-nothing board the future looks dismal.
61 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:02:58
62 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:03:42
63 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:02:26
65 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:03:13
66 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:05:33
67 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:03:51
On another note, this might finally make Bill sell up. That I like.
68 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:00:24
Your wife however wishes to better her life and informs you she is leaving you for someone else in 6 weeks time.
Do you still invite her round for a family meal so that all your friends and family can thank her for the past 11 years??
69 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:06:34
70 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:05:56
I just hope Kenwright gets this next appointment right. No has been managers, and I see the essence in a continuation of the set up, but Neville has no managing experience, that would be a nightmare if he is appointed.
Martinez or Laudrup, who the BBC said we want, would be good enough for me I think.
71 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:05:17
72 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:08:28
73 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:06:47
74 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:05:34
He's not leaving some small town club for his shot at the big leagues. We're Everton for fuck's sake!
Wish him the best, and stand him down. Stubbs, Sheedy, Dunc - it's two games, just let them take them.
75 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:09:18
76 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:08:40
A fucking Man U manager in waiting managing two of our games. Maybe he should invite Gill and SAL to sit with him to have a close look at Baines and Fellaini.
Fucking shambles. BK has a lot to answer for.
77 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:11:05
78 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:05:24
Just like some people on here... no big club will ever want Moyes eh?
79 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:07:02
80 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:11:01
81 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:12:32
84 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:12:58
85 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:08:05
"Man Utd In `Shafting Everton' Reprise Shocker"
86 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:06:55
The next man in may well play a better brand of football but he (or she?) will do very well to match Moyes consistently high league finishes. Hopefully we get someone who can mix attractive football with grinding out results and operating wisely in the transfer market.
Spotlight on you now BK. Don't f**k this up!
87 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:55:03
I've never been a lover of Moyes but I do acknowledge the stability he's brought and salute the fact we are no longer annual relegation battlers...so I do thank him for that...it looks as tho' even Moyes has become tired of Billy's bullshit and has done one as all the pro-Moyes heads on here feared he would do eventually.
I ask any Evertonian this question now that Moyes is gone... Do you have ANY confidence in Kenwright & his gang of Cronies appointing the right man to take over ??? or to take this club forward ???...my answer is a resounding NO FUCKING CHANCE !!
I personally would like Laudrup but I bet a pound to a pinch of shit we'll end up with a team like the one mentioned above or someone like Mark Hughes and that my friends will be the end of this club and a very quick return to the Walter years !!!
Kenwright you are destroying this club before our very eyes PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE FUCK OFF and take your board of nomarks with you...!!!
88 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:06:45
89 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:13:07
90 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:07:34
Those who called him dithering Dave.. only a couple of big mistakes, not bad for Prem manager when compared to the flops at some clubs, and the youth everyone talks about... well apart from Rooney... none are tearing up trees, so MAYBE he knew a little of what he talked about.
Do I wish him luck... No.. cos he is joining a rival and I hope we beat them every time we play them... but can I say thank you for restoring a little pride.... yes. Not always the best football, but at least we weren't relegation fodder each year.
91 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:11:40
Are we a charity who's boss has left to work for Barnados. Embarrasing.
92 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:04:14
Cheers Davey you kept is afloat but I do hope you get relegated next year but not along with us!
Bilic please. Poyet wouldn't be bad but he has stated he wants to go to Chelsea eventually. Ole Gunnar could do ten years before we let him join Utd.
Is Howard Kendall sober? Bring back Joe Royal? Me? Eugene? Dodd? (not ken) Ron Atkinson? George Graham?
Oh fuck it, whoever we want the manager will get appointed.
Rooney - player manager?... stop it!
93 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:13:47
Fuck plucky little Everton
there, there, now, here's a pound, run off and get some sweeties
94 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:12:37
Wenger: "I want to leave to join Chelsea" ... "Oh ok, Arsene, see you at The Emirates on Sunday."
AVB: "I want to leave to join Man City" ... "Yeah no probs, AVB – I'll see you at the Lane next home game."
It wouldn't happen and it wouldn't happen at most clubs with any pride or substance – no matter how much they had done at the club.
95 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:53:53
DM has had a lot of criticism over the years but the main theme has always been how good could he have been if given funds at the right times, ie, January this year. As supporters, we should all offer thanks to DM for moving Everton from relegation positions to a respectable position in the league.
A final note: Whoever is appointed as Everton manager, he will have a huge task of rebuilding as at least two top players will be gone and a number of older players are not good enough and unless they are given a huge transfer kitty that will show how hypocritical this pathetic board and chairman are, Everton will have a long hard season next year.
96 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:17:49
Enough about Moyes.
Laudrup! Laudrup! Laudrup!
COYB !!
97 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:15:23
98 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:10:36
Watch the wheels now fall off the Kenwright regime, the cracks will appear and he will go into hiding as usual.
Unless he gets some finance sorted and makes the right appointment I fear the worst.
My biggest fear is the Wally with the Brolly.
99 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:15:23
100 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:17:04
You would think we were fucking Yeovil or Barnet the way we conduct our business.
I won't be clapping the new Man U boss on Sunday, that's for sure - he is a multi-millionaire FFS, you would think he had done the job for nothing.
102 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:21:40
103 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:18:41
Should be a protest against Kenwright on Saturday. What kind of fucking idiot can allow this to happen to a once proud club and why, cause he thinks Davey deserves it?
Would the shite allow it, United themselves, Arsenal, Totenham - would they fick. Plucky fucking Everton.
Jesus Wept.
104 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:13:38
105 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:20:18
"The fact that Moyes is, I believe the only Everton manager to leave us for another club is confirmation .. "
Howard Kendall left Everton for Athletic Bilbao in 1987.
106 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:23:54
107 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:25:00
108 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:25:31
109 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:24:44
110 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:23:19
Of course stuff like this happens. Moyes has gone from 6th place to first...he hasnt joined a near rival. It has been decided quickly, and Moyes is out of contract in six weeks. We have a couple of relatively meaningless games left.
111 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:21:53
But a send off now, that is just not right. The man has agreed to become the next manager of another club whilst still pretending to be our manager.
He should just go now.
As a club we should be concentrating on how we move forward, who will be the next manager etc etc not preparing fanfares for someone who is leaving us for another club.
None of the above detracts from the job Moyes has done for us, it is not about that. But I stress again it is not right to give him a send off in this manner. Have we no self respect?
112 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:10:54
(From http://www.redcafe.net/f6/Moyes-succeed-ferguson-anyone-74640/index40.html)
Fuck Off Moyes your not wanted here. Nowhere near good enough for us.
I 'm preparing a Moyes Out banner as we speak.
Long ball football here we go
Such an uninspiring choice. No experience of winning trophies, no experience of dealing with big players, no CL experience. It's a massive gamble if he is chosen and if he doesn't start well he will be under immense pressure.
It's like going from cashmere to polyester.
We're fucked.
We will never win the league under Moyes. Fact.
Sack Moyes, Sell Anichebe.
Moyes doesn't like flair players does he?
Disastrous move for the club.
Exactly, cheap and easy appointment, won't command huge wages. It's extremely disappointing.
As much as I like Moyes and all that he has done for my club. This move has got disaster written all over it. Utd could almost have a choice of any top coach in the world and yet they chose David Moyes?! He won't last 2 seasons.
Evertons style of football isn't good to watch, Moyes doesn't really get on with flair players, has a terrible record in europe. Massive no from me.
Not looking forward to the Moyes era.
That's what I don't get, anybody can see he's nowhere near the calibre we should be looking at. Honestly a mind boggling decision if the rumours are true.
The more and more I think about it the worse I think this decision could be.
113 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:26:05
114 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:23:42
Now for the business at hand, now that our ambitious manager who dredged every penny out of the board has left (players and his wages mainly), it's time to have a clear out and get Everton's finances back on an even keel and that means reducing the wages and living within our means so that we have a club in another 11 years time.
Unfortunately that probably means fending off relegation for a couple of years with a load of youngsters - over to Zola, Mackay, etc (Mark Hughes has got a fucking nerve)
115 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:13:23
I don't lik Kenwright, but for those who didn't se him on sky last night he was genuinely she'll shocked. I know some will say he was acting, but you obviously never seen those clips of him on Corrie, he can't act to save his life.
116 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:18:44
God I wish John Moores was still Chairman! He wouldn't believe what is going on at the moment. We have got to get all of these people out of our club they are a disgrace.
I can't believe that we have been a mediocre team for 11 years and people are worried about Moyes leaving! I don't know what the same people would have felt like when Howard Kendall left the first time.
Lastly, please please do not choose a British manager as there isn't a good one out there.
117 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:28:39
118 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:27:35
Maybe to you, Nick
Not to some of us
This is a unique situation re the managerial merry-go-round - only Everton, eh?
119 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:24:06
120 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:19:32
No doubt the Moyes In Brigade will be clapping like mad ! :)
121 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:27:16
122 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:24:04
The most important thing now is his replacement. I dread this being left too late & it being another excuse for hardly, if any new faces! That's the worry & every day after today that there's no announcement of a new manager is a step closer to the abyss!
123 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:30:39
124 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:31:02
125 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:32:27
WHY DID THIS NOT START TWO MONTHS AGO!?
126 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:24:00
I'm sorry but this smacks of a major cover up the board knew and let us spend on renewing season tickets - guaranteed that the next Manager will be so bad that we will quickly revert back to mid table obscurity
As for staying for two games having announced you are leaving is out of order on the fans players etc - you could not make this up - the line only in America should be changed to only at Everton !!
127 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:16:22
What worries me is that if its taken dear Old Bill all these years to try & find a buyer, how long are we going to wait for a new manager?
One things for sure, the reception on Sunday, will be interesting!
128 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:26:20
129 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:33:25
"I'll give them 18 months, they'll soon get sick of each other's bad habits."
130 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:35:06
I blame Billy Bullshit for allowing this to continue to happen to the club. Why can't he learn from his mistakes?
131 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:29:29
I'm glad he will be in charge for the last 2 games, after what he has done for this club he deserves a proper thank you. I was so pissed off when Tim Cahill left and we didn't get the chance to give him a proper send-off after all he had done for us.
To those fans who think this is a good thing, come back on here in one year from today and I guarantee you will finally see just how much David Moyes did for this club. All the talk is of if Moyes is good enough to fill Alex Ferguson's boots but he will do just fine — the really big question is who is good enough to fill Moyes's boots at Goodison? — and I honestly don't think there is anyone.
I believe we will start to slide down the table, not quite bad enough to be relegated but nowhere near good enough to challenge in the top half of the table. I hope I'm wrong but I wont be.
133 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:30:39
134 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:38:01
Looking forward to LMAO at Moyes in 12 months, glad hes gone :D As for the next two games, he should be shown the door immediatly, I wouldnt even allow him to clean out his desk. Put Dunc in charge for two games then look for a new manager.
135 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:36:01
136 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:40:30
What a leader!!
137 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:40:24
138 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:37:44
139 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:40:02
140 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:39:42
141 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:38:09
142 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:39:48
Mind you, he doesn't move with my best wishes. Don't want to be at Everton? Okay, the door is over there.
143 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:42:02
144 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:42:57
145 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:40:31
Good luck for the future and thanks for all your hard work and effort. You've definitely got a pair after all.
146 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:43:45
147 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:40:16
Everyone should go to the OS link and hit the email icon to email customer services everton@evertonfc.com and convey our utter disgust at allowing him to manage for the the last two games and a total of 6 weeks at a cost of over 400K.
Fuck off now Moyes if you have any respect for the club. Save your warm welcom for when you return to Goodison as Man U manager.
148 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:43:10
Exactly. Leaving Everton used to be a step down; not any longer.
149 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:45:14
150 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:43:10
Exactly. Leaving Everton used to be a step down; not any longer.
151 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:45:55
152 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:39:11
153 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:46:42
154 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:46:01
Will that be a first I wonder?
155 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:43:10
156 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:47:29
"You've definitely got a pair after all"
Pity he always took them off before a derby game
157 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:43:56
This is an EVERTON website Julian. Red cafe or whatever the fuck they call themselves is another website. FFFFSSSSSS!!!!!!!
158 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:45:22
159 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:49:02
160 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:45:24
Seriously though, in this day and age, every Manager expects financial backing so can't wait to see how the summer pans out. Don't think we'll be far off the back pages now.
Finally why the hell is he staying for the last two games? Are you seriously saying he won't be stood there on Sunday with his mind on Old Trafford? Just let Sheedy and Dunc take the last two games.
161 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:49:54
162 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:11:06
The way this will work out is as follows: Bent Bill will spin us a few lines that he tried to get Laudrup but he did his good finger signing off the medical and the club just couldn't take the risk as that finger will be needed to hold the pen to make all the new big name signings. But Mark Hughes came through with flying colours and will save the club a few quid - be happy about that blues - cos he's available now.
Watch!
163 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:47:13
Kenwright you are destroying this once great club....pleasr go before you KILL it completely !!
166 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:36:02
I think Howard Kendall's number is VAT 69!
167 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:53:28
168 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:51:32
The biggest test for Moyes will be getting the Manc fans onside, because they are up in arms with his appointment.
169 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:51:13
170 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:45:29
You are right. Moyes has obviously been talking to SAF/UTD for some time, its been a done deal for months. He won't be getting a good send off from me, he's conned us all and sold us down the river. I'll be booing him on Sunday. His lasting impression will be negative tactics and playing one up front for ten years.
I fear for Everton under Kenwright. He's the worst chairman possible who hasn't got a clue about business or football or anything really. He's sold all the assets and ran up a massive debt. Our decline may now accelerate with this board. We are going to end up a small club with BK at the helm.
171 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:52:24
172 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:56:29
173 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:52:41
175 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:56:37
Seriously....
176 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:56:17
If you all want him to do so well, fuck off and support the Mancs!!!
Don't you realise what you are typing????
177 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:56:47
178 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:42:42
Those who stated:
'why would he leave? Best job in the Premier league. He will stay here forever'
'He will NEVER get a chance at a big club'
'He will NEVER win a trophy'
now appear to be trying to save face, by deflecting blame onto the board. Very predictable.
I think Moyes has done a good job again this season, and got us the best placement money we could get when looking at our squad. So I am quite happy he has stayed to the end of the season, as at least the next manager can benefit from that money, and not start with his hands already tied.
From a principle perspective, he should not lead the last two games. But from a realistic perspective, he is the best man at the club to manage the teams for the last two games. Even if you do have Stubbs or A. Nother leading, it will be Moyes calling the shots from behind anyway. I think Moyes will be desperate to ensure we finish above Liverpool in his last season.
I think it is United that have fucked this up, by calling Fergies retirement this week. Why? For what purpose could they not wait until end of the season? Completely unprofessional and unnecessary in my opinion.
179 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:56:31
180 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:58:00
I would absolutely love it if the new man won at Anfield and one of the Sky 4, as well as winning a trophy next season! That would be his legacy ruined!!!
181 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:59:45
182 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:57:36
Agree though with those who say he should step down now, and one of the backroom staff stand in for the last 2 games.
183 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:58:37
184 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:00:07
185 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:59:37
186 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:01:59
187 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:01:33
188 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:01:08
189 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:01:24
but if Laudrup, Pereira, Martinez et al stay put, what about Joe Royle?
He's not everyone's cup of tea, but BK is still a damn sight better than Peter Johnson ever was.
190 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:00:39
191 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:02:58
192 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:00:24
193 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:59:40
I'm hoping to make it to the West Ham game on Sunday to give Moyes, what I hope will be, a big send-off.
He has given ten years service to the club, improved the side, fulfilled his contractual requirements and most of all, I think he's genuinely tried and been as frustrated as anybody about the shortcomings of the board.
That's not to say he's been perfect - after all he's won nothing, but he's moved us forward and given us back some respect - both in terms of results, and the way we conduct our business on and off the pitch.
That is why I will be cheering Moyes on Sunday. And I believe he's the only man who should be in charge for the last two games of the season. I would hope and imagine that the majority of our players will want to give him a decent send-off too.
194 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:03:35
195 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:04:41
s 'recommendation'
196 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:02:46
197 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:53:32
He won't complain about the ex-manager sitting in an office down the corridor dispensing advice on how to run the club and having a big say in players contracts and what players are bought. That wouldn't have sat well with Mourinho, he fell out with Abramovich over too much interference.
This deal was sorted out months ago, Moyes got the nod from Fergie not to sign a new contract and blind Bill let it happen as he foolishly thought his great mate DM would never leave him. Isn't he supposed to be a successful businessman? Amateur mistake
198 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:04:39
199 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:01:12
200 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:04:14
201 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:06:05
202 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:06:20
203 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:04:51
204 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:04:04
205 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:00:58
Moyes was linked immediately after SAF's announcement and it's been confirmed he's leaving the same evening. No contract negotiations or anything with Utd.
Don't know about Kenwright but it's obviously all been agreed with Moyes some time ago. Kenwright's a clown anyway. He probably forgot.
206 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:04:22
Jesus!
207 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:05:12
208 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:07:37
210 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:08:11
211 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:08:37
212 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:09:00
213 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:41:46
.....that Uncle Bill really has found a buyer and that Jose Mourinho will be installed as the Manager of Everton Football Club........
.......wake up you daft plonker.......
214 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:10:02
215 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:11:16
216 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:10:36
217 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:08:39
Of course, he pays the same as any other manager would pay. And for the record, I have always thought Baines will go to United to replace Evra, whether Moyes is there or not. The rest of the players wouldn't get into the first team in my eyes.
218 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:11:49
How will you feel if we get Hernandez on loan because of Moyes?
219 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:13:52
220 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:10:27
I was one of those who thought he'd never get that job, seeing that no other big club had come in for him over the years and that he'd never won a trophy. But you know what? I'm very happy I'm wrong, I think they've made a big mistake. We will now see how good Moyes is.
221 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:03:14
222 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:14:33
223 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:11:55
224 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:12:59
How the mighty have fallen – I can only surmise some are a) not scousers or b) have never known what it's like to be a proud Evertonian.
I'm off – sickening.
226 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:11:14
227 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:16:35
My money is on Solskjaer or however you spell it.
228 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:16:26
" I didn't see it coming" shows how clueless he is. ( not signing a contact was the 1st clue)
229 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:15:42
Why ? I read that as meaning you want him to be successful there ? Again, Why ?
Did you wish Rooney well when he went there ?
He's a Man Utd manager now, the enemy !
230 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:56:22
So, on that basis, Moyes will deserve a good send off.
231 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:16:36
All the best Davey boy.
232 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:16:06
233 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:17:02
(1) the strategic and now clearly deceitful statements about waiting until the summer. Okay, I don't know for sure, but does anyone seriously believe that he has not known about this for a while now?
(2) hanging on for 2 more games instead of resigning on the spot, for what? To make sure that he gets paid in May and June
(3) Never mind the last two games - he joins Man-U on July-1, will we be paying his weekly wage up until then, and for what? So that he can prepare for next season
(4) Knowing our vulnerable financial state he will swoop on Leighton, Felli, and, I think, Jags
Okay, this might not all work out the way I am suggesting. But what the last 2 days and I would say few months have shown is that DM is a ruthless, hard-nosed, self-centred professional.
234 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:14:31
235 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:20:25
236 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:18:45
237 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:20:19
"Ever since those days in the boys pen I've dreamed about this job......and now it's all mine!!"
238 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:22:40
239 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:21:57
240 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:24:11
241 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:14:32
Magnificent achievement, gave his all and has far more than earned his chance to show what he can do with a wages bill twice that under his control at Everton and of course the financial muscle to have who he wants. I can see him doing very well indeed and staying for many years if he is given 2 years to win something big.
I'd like Everton to find another of his ilk maybe from the Championship - I hope he has already given Kenwright a shortlist. No need to kneejerk reaction appointments of those who constantly fight relegation or who have had one good year. We need another who will carry one building in the new financial era we are about to begin and stay for another 10 years.
242 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:24:55
243 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:21:08
Trouble is Dan, many of us remember before football was invented by Sky, when we were led by HKI and Harry Catterick, even dear old Gordon Lee had Thomas, Dobson and Latchford
cue "uneven playing field", "you need a billionaire backer to pass the ball 5 yards", "Clough couldn't do it now", "it's all about money" "Punching above.." et al
245 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:24:19
246 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:19:32
He's now signed for Utd and he can GTF as far as I'm concerned.
The only worry I have is that our gobshite of a chairman is in charge of the selection process.
247 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:25:32
248 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:23:14
249 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:27:33
Seeing as Moyes is running around talking to whoever and signing deals who is preparing for this weekends game?
250 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:26:10
251 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:28:08
252 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:24:20
A businessman with no backup strategy, unbelievable!
253 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:29:32
254 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:30:49
255 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:27:33
256 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:28:21
257 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:25:14
Fuck off before Sunday, Moyes — don't patronize us any more.
258 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:25:28
I believe when you are within the last 6 months of your contract you can talk to anyone you want so the tapping up comment is complete tosh and just bitter rubbish.
259 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:30:28
260 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:25:25
Good luck is all I can say, we will all now see how he does with money/ better players. I will applaud him Sunday for all his hard work, but will be sticking 2 fingers up towards the Directors Box — for all the work Moyes has done, Kenwright was always in the background unravelling it by having to sell our best players.
261 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:34:43
262 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:32:46
263 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:36:47
Its a great honour to be asked to be the next Manager of Manchester United. I am delighted that Sir Alex saw fit to recommend me for the job. I have great respect for everything he has done and for the Football Club.
“I know how hard it will be to follow the best manager ever, but the opportunity to manage Manchester United isnt something that comes around very often and Im really looking forward to taking up the post next season.
“I have had a terrific job at Everton, with a tremendous chairman and Board of Directors and a great set of players. Between now and the end of the season, I will do everything in my power to make sure we finish as high as possible in the table.
“Evertons fantastic fans have played a big part in making my years at Goodison so enjoyable and I thank them wholeheartedly for the support they have given me and the players. Everton will be close to me for the rest of my life.”
264 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:32:59
i wont fuckin sleep tonight but Idon't think it is for the same reason as Doddy.
265 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:33:08
266 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:34:15
267 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:29:29
Well I for one will not be cheering from the rooftops on Sunday - this has been planned out over the months since the contract issue arose.
Wake up everyone Moyes does'nt care about us anymore - lets hope he doesnt get into Fellaini,Baines and Jags in his remaining games.What would the IMWT brigade think of seeing them all in a manc shirt .
268 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:37:19
269 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:38:20
"When we discussed the candidates that we felt had the right attributes we unanimously agreed on David Moyes. David is a man of great integrity with a strong work ethic. I've admired his work for a long time and approached him as far back as 1998 to discuss the position of Assistant Manager here. He was a young man then at the start of his career and has since gone on to do a magnificent job at Everton. There is no question he has all the qualities we expect of a manager at this Club.”
Sir Bobby Charlton said:
“I have always said that we wanted the next manager to be a genuine Manchester United man. In David Moyes, we have someone who understands the things that make this such a special club. We have secured a man who is committed to the long-term and will build teams for the future as well as now. Stability breeds success.
“David has tremendous strength of character and recognises the importance of bringing young players through and developing them alongside world class talent. At United, I think David will be able to express himself. Im delighted he has accepted and Im looking forward to working with him.”
Ed Woodward, said:
“In David Moyes, we have secured the services of an outstanding manager who has all the skills to build on the phenomenal legacy in place today. I have no doubt that he will bring an energy and commitment to deliver winning football that is part of the fabric of this Club. In this respect, he is cut from the same cloth as the Old Trafford greats who go before him.
“I have been very impressed by Davids personal and managerial traits, which reflect the Manchester United values. I have no doubt that he will embrace, and soon become an integral part of, Uniteds unique culture and heritage.”
Joel Glazer said:
“I am very pleased David has agreed to lead Manchester United into the future. His hard working style and steely determination and are characteristics we value at the Club. He has impressed as a coach for many years now and we strongly believe he will be able to take up from where Alex is leaving off by continuing this Clubs tradition of flair football played by exciting, world class players.”
Avie Glazer said:
“The search for a new manager has been very short. Alex was very clear with his recommendation and we are delighted that David has agreed to accept the job. He comes to us with excellent credentials and a strong track record. I know he is keen to get started and Ed will be sitting down with him as soon as the season is over to discuss plans for the summer and beyond."
David Gill said:
“Im delighted that David has agreed to join Manchester United. He has done a terrific job at Everton and has all the qualities that we are looking for in a manager to succeed Alex.”
David Moyes said:
“Its a great honour to be asked to be the next Manager of Manchester United. I am delighted that Sir Alex saw fit to recommend me for the job. I have great respect for everything he has done and for the Football Club.
“I know how hard it will be to follow the best manager ever, but the opportunity to manage Manchester United isnt something that comes around very often and Im really looking forward to taking up the post next season.
“I have had a terrific job at Everton, with a tremendous chairman and Board of Directors and a great set of players. Between now and the end of the season, I will do everything in my power to make sure we finish as high as possible in the table.
“Evertons fantastic fans have played a big part in making my years at Goodison so enjoyable and I thank them wholeheartedly for the support they have given me and the players. Everton will be close to me for the rest of my life.”
David will be introduced to the world as the Manager of Manchester United in due course.
270 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:37:48
271 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:38:02
272 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:39:29
I'm not it will make any difference to either of the results, it's just like me working my notice.
273 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:41:53
274 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:40:07
275 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:26:06
As for Kenwright....just seen him on SSN..his eyes were all filled up and he looked like he was about to start crying....the man is an embarrassment...says he had no idea this was going to happen or who will be OR who he wants to be next Everton manager....he is a SAD BUFFOON !!
276 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:26:12
I don't see any reason for him not to 'work' the last two matches of the season. This idea of gardening leave for anyone leaving a job makes no sense to me. The man's a professional and will do his job as he always has.
It is now over to Bill Kenwright and co. to make the most of this opportunity and make the right choice. I'd like to see either Martinez or Laudrup but if not I will support whoever gets the gig. We are not Liverpool and we are not Chelsea. I will support whoever manages our club.
277 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:42:50
Round
Hughes
O'Neill
Stubbs
Clarke
Benitez
What is wrong with you people?
279 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:44:03
280 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:46:00
281 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:48:22
282 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:31:04
I hope they win the Champions League, because I love the crap that comes out off RS fans every time United get one over on them, ditto on the league.
283 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:49:17
285 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:37:47
Fuck Moyes off right now — forget him being in charge for the last two games because this will have a totally negative effect on the players. What's his leaving present? Giving 6th spot to the fucking shite.
The Kenwright Out campaign should start right now to get him and the useless shower on the board out who never back the club. New manager... fuck me, we need a new chairman new board first. Whoever we get will only be appointed if they agree to the chairman and board demands which will be you spend fuck all... Kenwright out NOW.
I felt sick watching him in that interview, he's an idiot who doesn't inspire any confidence only fear. Mark Hughes? — You're having a fucking laugh, useless wherever he's been. Laudrup and Martinez are young ambitious and have a style of football which we want to see. Only appoint one of these though if their given the finanacial backing.
We have an ageing squad left by.... Won't mention his name again so we need strengthening in departments all over the team. Don't bother your arse turning up for the last two games, you muppet — you're no longer our manager, piss off.
286 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:51:12
287 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:06:15
So to slag the man off for wanting to manage the biggest club in the world and have the ability to bring in top players is childish. I don't wish him good or bad luck but he would've been crazy to turn the opportunity down
288 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:50:22
289 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:51:41
290 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:45:27
Obviously the board that have built the biggest club in the land haven't got a clue what they are doing by hiring him. They should have read ToffeeWeb first (tongue firmly in cheek).
291 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:52:42
293 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:52:26
Getting a little worried now; new gaffers have to have facials from Billy Bukkake?
294 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:54:11
295 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:43:33
David Moyes played his part in getting the club there, but after 11 years a fresh start for both parties was in order. I am just a bit surprised were Moyes' new challenge is.
296 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:51:12
I wonder how many wreaths will be laid around Goodison on Sunday, get a grip people.
297 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:52:30
Does that mean SAF knows fuck all and all the Moyes haters were right?
Does it mean SAF knows what he's doing and all the Moyes haters know fuck all?
I suppose only time will tell...................
298 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:53:23
Rooney is wholeheartedly abused everytime he sets foot in Goodison whereas Moyes is being wished 'All the Very Best' for doing EXACTLY the same thing... go figure ????....absolutely amazing!!
299 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:58:53
300 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:59:33
301 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:54:42
302 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:00:42
303 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:59:22
304 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:00:36
"Everton fans: now you know why the contract was run down... Has been a work in progress for a long time."
Can't stand him but he's completely right on this occasion.
305 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:46:35
Hope he enjoys his time at utd and sorts out his awful record against the rs. On the other hand I hope our record against utd greatly improves! If we don't get our top targets of martinez or laudrup, am I the only one who wouldn't mind rafa? Even crazier than that does anyone else dream of us using potential fellaini money to bring back rooney? Who knows maybe he'll like an everton without Moyes.
I guess now we have to hope that our incompetent chairman does something he's never done, what's best for the club. Saw an interbiew with him on ssn choking back the tears as predicted. What an actor!
306 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:01:02
307 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:37:26
308 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:57:55
309 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:50:28
Unfortunately the game has changed we are not a big club in today's game because we have no money. Moyes never won a trophy and he shouldn't have been expected to.
If anyone comes here and get's better results than Moyes did in the premiership then he will be nothing short of a miracle worker.
Untied are the most famous and one of the most successful teams in the world (puke) why wouldn't he want to go? He is a professional football manager. He was a Temporary Evertonian and overall a pretty good one.
Give him a clap on Sunday then when he's gone he can fuck off like any other rival manager.
If Mark Hughes gets appointed don't blame the MOB It's not their fault no one listened to them anyway.
310 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:53:46
311 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:57:42
312 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:57:02
Only one natural successor for me, Kevan Johnson, time he stopped his lagging around and got down to the nitty gritty.
Where on the march with Kevo's army
313 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:06:24
Please stop the bloody theatrics Bill, your embarrassing yourself, the club and the fans!
314 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:01:08
I predicted he would ask to leave yesterday before this 'two weeks ago' story broke this morning....the fact is they just didn't/don't get on and that is the main reason he left Everton in the first place...a quote said to me by one of Rooney's family at an away match just after he left "..He just can't stand that ginger-haired c*nt..." read into that what you will...!!!
In his SSN interview about an hour ago Bullshit Bill said he would listen to the supporters as to who they would want as the next manager...if TW poll is anything to go by then it's LAUDRUP by a country mile...c'mon Bill stand by your words !!
315 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:09:13
317 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:41:40
Would Arsenal fans cheer Wenger if he was leaving for Man Utd? Imagine if a manager left Liverpoolto go there.
If you clap him, you're basically saying: "Well done, for getting pluckily little Everton to seventh, we're only a small club, it doesn't matter you won us nothing. We have no intention of competing in this league anyway. We've all give up so don't blame you. Everyone should leave Everton if Man Utd come calling."
People booed our best post war player ever when he left for OT and he was just a kid, who was getting messed around by Moyes anyway. He's supposed to be going to a rival. What's the point in Everton as a club if we congratulate someone for leaving us to go to a rival???
The man did well for Everton, but now he works for the enemy. He was awful this season too! I will boo him on the basis that he will be trying to get six pts of us next season, after creating an air of uncertainty this season, when we needed strong attack-minded leadership!
And I don't care what anyone in the P C brigade think, I helped pay his wages for 11 years, and I'll be watching Everton long after he's left the game. Think about it: Even the timing of the announcement was to suit Ferguson and Man Utd — so SAF could get a send-off for his last game.
318 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:07:04
I thank Moyes for IMPROVING us from a relegation side, and then stabilising us as perennial european challengers. He has built a good foundation for any new manager, compared to the squad he inherited.
My focus is on the future now, and hopefully seeing a manager coming in and building on what Moyes has done. I think in some ways the Everton job is more difficult than the United job. United have the finances to compete. Our new manager is going to have to compete without finances from the board, but only from his dealings in the transfer market. Whoever comes in, will have my full support until I have a reason to doubt that they are the right person for the club.
319 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:12:40
320 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:07:49
321 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:02:04
322 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:16:20
you can't say Moyes isn't a lifelong Everton fan like the rest of us. We don't know. If one manages a club for 11 years, and puts heart and soul into it, it would be very difficult not to be a fan of the club forever.
323 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:14:47
324 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:17:46
325 Posted 09/05/2013 at 16:52:16
I would wish Moyes well but as the man left without HONOUR and integrity, negotiating his new job while still PRETENDING he was intent on keeping his present one and offering pathetic and increasingly bizarre EXCUSES for not negotiating . So because of that treachery I hope he falls flat on his face ASAP. For this deceit and unprincipled action. I blame both HIM, SAF and the Manchester United Management as it was quite clearly a result of their collusion and exemplifies the lack of respect for EFC and their supporters on ALL their parts.
BK comes out of this as a pathetic, stupid, limp wristed wimp who could not see the writing on the wall when it was blindingly obvious as Moyes excuses became even more pathetic and one can only hope he finds a real and competent MANAGER to take up the reins at Everton and not some cheapskate friend of a friend.
I would hope that Everton supporters let the TRAITOR Moyes know just what they think of his deceitful dealings should he dare to show his face again at Goodison. If they give him a rousing send off then I will have serious doubts about the ability of match going supporters to see exactly what has transpired and how underhanded and dirty it all has been.
326 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:19:21
327 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:18:03
I just hope that Kenwright has been smart enough to protect our 'big names' (Baines, Fellaini, Jag's) from being David's first 3 signings for "them lot"
328 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:21:18
I find it very difficult to think that Moyes could shake off Everton from his life like a dog shaking off water after a rain. There will be a bond.
329 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:23:36
330 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:23:51
331 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:13:30
You have never listened to the supporters in all the time you have been in charge of our club. I can just see the interviews now for the next manager:
1) What's your vision?
2) Can you keep us up?
3) Can you manage on fuck all?
4) Bosman and loans, yes?
5) How good are you at telling lies?
6) The job's yours.
Time to worry like fuck.
332 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:21:08
Moyes has given us loyalty, commitment, excellent leadership and improved league positions for an 11 year period, and all with a huge amount of class, dignity and respect - and all you can trot out is pretend rage when you never wanted him here anyway.
Personally, I wish him all the very best and he is entitled to go to Man U with our good wishes after the service he has given us.
Tim, if I may make a prediction - I bet you will be one of the first on this site to complain about the "failings" of whoever it is that replaces Moyes.
333 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:29:34
334 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:33:23
335 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:22:55
Pereira was Andre Villas-Boas number two, and succeeded him when AVB joined Chelsea. Most Porto supporters never took to him.
I think Michael Laudrup would be a much better appointment.
336 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:26:13
Baines to Man Utd??
Fellaini to Chelsea??
337 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:34:37
339 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:19:28
Thanks to bullshit bill we've come out of this looking very weak. Moyes and united have really pulled a fast one on us. He's signing at the end of his contract which means we're getting feck all for someone we payed an extortionate 3 million a year for for 5 years. And bill let this happen cos he thinks with his heart not his brain. If he fucks up the search for a new manager the blue union should defenitely take an active role in getting rid of this good for nothing shyster and his friends. Just like those "spirit of shankley" pricks did with hicks and gillet.
He must have realized how badly he screwed this up last night when he "had a cup of tea..... and walked his dogs"
340 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:37:16
341 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:24:24
It is clear that Moyes has not been totally committed to EFC for most of this season, hedging his bets for a better offer. This could have been Germany or elsewhere, but, once Ferguson decided to retire (which will have been some time ago) I believe they reached an agreement in secret and Moyes continued to flannel about European qualification as cover.
I mailed last December that Moyes should sign a new contract to stabilise the Club and worse case allow EFC to claim compensation should he get poached. Instead he made sure it was as easy as possible for any other Club to come in for him.
For someone who spouted many times about his principles, honesty and integrity it smacks of rank hypocrisy.
It's a great shame, a sour taste is left, adding to my ever increasing cynicism of the game.
342 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:41:03
343 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:39:26
Presumably if you got offered a better job from a rival company with more money, a bigger car and foreign travel, you would tell your boss immediately, sign a new long term contract with your current employer and turn the job offer down.
344 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:17:02
I have not been entertained by quality football while Moyes has been our manager. In any one season, the most you'd've witnessed is perhaps half-a-dozen decent games, the rest was garbage.
I'm so glad he's gone, and I don't care where he's gone to. I just hope, whoever we get, will result in Everton returning to playing entertaining attractive football.
345 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:14:35
I think people need some perspective.
To all those moaning about the way DM's departure is being managed, with him being in charge here until the end of the season, and likewise SAF at OT.. this situation is almost unique in English football in modern times. Rather than it be the case of a knee-jerk sacking followed by a desperate scramble to get a new man in rightaway, you have two stable clubs MANAGING TRANSITION. In one case, one of the biggest clubs in the world managing the departure at age 71 of a man who has enjoyed more success than any other manager EVER has. On the other hand you have a huge club with a proud tradition whose steady helmsman of 11 years who, despite what some people here think, is so highly thought of elsewhere that said other massive club has prepared to offer DM a 6 year contract ahead of practically any other manager in the world - 99% of whom would come running if OPT whistled for them.
So, to sumarise, this is a very usual situation. And if we've learned nothing else about DM in the last 11 years, we know him to be thoroughly professional and of a rather special integrity as far as most managers goes. He will try his best for us in these upcoming games and I for one will not be surprised if they return us 4 or 6 points.
Now, onto his replacement. I know Billy is a huge disappointment. However, and regarding this man who we have to replace - you know the one a certain globally massive club has just given a six year contract - who gave him the Everton job in the first place, much to the surprise of many? When it comes to appointing managers, BK has thus far had it 100% spot on. Let's wait and see who he goes for next. His first pick of DM has at least entitled him to another shot!
As for who we might get... to those who doubt anyone of any substance would want to come here; ask yourself, 'how did the last chap do?' Any manager with balls and ambition ought to say to themselves, 'I too can go to this grand old club and show, by what I can achieve there, that I also am worthy to be considered good enough to replace someone like SAF'. And that is NOT IN ANY WAY a slight on our club. Just name me any manager in English football besides Chapman, Clough or Paisley who can be likened to SAF. Credit where credit is due. If DM can come here, do a job for 11 years and then get offered SAF's seat, who wouldn't take that as a sign that our club is just as good as any other in England for a man with ambition?!
Good luck Mr Moyes sir. I've been proud of what you did for our club, especially the fact you have done it with dignity and integrity - for example, the way you handled the Rooney court case, and the way you're prepared to come out instantly and criticise players who behave badly - e.g. Fellaini's head-buts at Stoke and Pip's embarrassing dive. We are "the people's club", and I believe, contrary to may people on here, you were "the people's manager".
Adieu.
346 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:44:26
Tim/Peter, so good you named yourself twice.
347 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:46:02
Agree entirely, a logical balanced perspective
348 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:48:40
349 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:41:03
351 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:43:44
This needs to be a bloody good appointment next. Otherwise we could end up very quickly in that bottom to mid tier of the league in which we're never too far away from a dog fight ala Villa, Sunderland, Newcastle.
What scares me is that there is no manager with premiership experience, a track record of top 6 finishes, and getting their sides playing attractive football who'd give us a second look.
I hear names like Bilic and Mackay and I just think Mike Walker. But we're almost certainly going to take a punt on someone. Do you trust Bill not to put the final nail in the coffin?
352 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:48:50
353 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:24:37
Sorry for Caps Lock. I wasn't shouting, honest.
354 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:29:23
And other similar post-Sky revisionists
"consistent relegation fodder to consistent European challengers"
It's all about age, perspective and what you've been fortunate to have experienced as a Blue - that tempers your opinion of "consistent" etc
Since the 50s, two terrifying near-misses with relegation and a few seasons in the 90s of anxiously looking at the last games on the fixture list
I watched as we became the first English club to complete in European competiions in 5 consecutive years
I've experienced 4 League titles, 3 FA Cups, regular semi-finals and had the pleasure of being a youngster watching the great 66-70 sides and an adult following the mid-80s team
In the main, it's been decent, the highs of the 60s, 80s offset with the 90s
I don't support David Moyes or the manager of any other team; I support Everton
We lost our way; he steadied the ship, made us solid and hard to beat and almost overcame the deficiencies of the Everton chairman and Board
So, thank you for all that, Mr Moyes
Let's move on
355 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:55:24
Come back to us Wayne — you don't need the money.
356 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:41:10
357 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:56:40
358 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:48:04
That said, Moyes has given us blues a break from looking down the table. My Thanks. Now we move on!
359 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:20:14
I can't understand the feelings of impending disaster. Apparently we are now certain to be relagated next season. Ok, we have done much better than we had a right to expect in terms of where we usually finish in the league, a few good cup runs, and yes, we can be grateful that we are generally regarded now as top six. This is surely some kind of decent achievement in view of the fact that for his entire tenure we have been, and remain, virtually the worst resourced Premiership club over the last 11 years. Everyone spends more, net, than we do. We have nearly always had the smallest squad in the league to the point where, absurdly, we have school kids on the bench and when anyone is carrying an injury, knackered, or just bloody useless, they have to play because there simply isn't anyone else on the roster.
Moyes has driven me to distraction at times and I will never forgive him that appalling mis judgement last year at Anfield or the rabbit in headlights performance at Wembley, twice. You could add some horrendous Cup exits and at times some of the least appealing football it's possible to watch, sometimes.....but.....you tend to focus on negatives in football.
Moyes has slowly, and with little real money, built a very decent squad and secured our position in the most competitive league around. He's brought in a few players you'd rather not talk about but mostly he's bought exceptionally well at low prices. Occasionally, like this year, the footballs been pretty good. I think overall he deserves a good send off and I cannot understand the fuss because he's taking charge for two more games....if anything I believe the players will do all they can to win both and win well, may not happen but they will I'm sure show how much they respect the guy.
It's got to be right to be worried that the likes of Mark Hughes is strongly rumoured to be the next mgr. I can't bear to think of that as even a remote possibility. Surely Di Matteo would see us as a very worthwhile project ? Surely we can find the £3m compo for Laudrup ? I'm not going to be sorry to see Steve Round go and providing we have got one of those two mgrs or yes even taken a chance on Martinez (and given he can't get his players to defend at all its a big risk) I'd not be horrified to see Neville as a no2 or even Duncan......that role for me is more about man mgt, inspiration and day to day leadership than transfer policy, tactics and buck-stops-here leadership.
Change happens and frankly I think we needed a change. I may be horrified if it means we collapse and go down but even if bugger all else changes at Board or financial level, I don't think we will and I'm not sure that anyone can say things wont actually get better ? We just don't know but this is not a time for crazy grief stricken commentaries, its just a respected, good manager of long standing moving on and the team we support is far, far bigger than David Moyes, something he would I suspect agree with.....
360 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:55:09
361 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:50:20
1 They will never win the league again under him
2 Champions league will never be won
3 more importantly than the above 2, there will be more competition at the top of the league now whiskey nose as gone, as I honestly cannot see united being a threat with mr inept in charge regardless of mr forget people's name being upstairs.
He knows English football has taken a massive nose dive, and he knows it will take years for the likes of his club (former) to be able to challenge clearly superior European football teams to life the champions league trophy, by that time Moyes will have long been sacked.
United fans are already up in arms that they signed Moyes, because they as well as most of us know he is not the man for that job. Why take on a bottler who produced really poor football?
Fans know don't want him, so they will do an hodgson on him and if I supported that awful team I would want him out too.
Moyes signed a 6 year deal. but once the fans start he will be lucky to last 6 months, especially once they end of the champs league, all the cups and the league because he bottles everything hahaha
In the mean time, the only person we must bring in is Laudrup at all costs.
362 Posted 09/05/2013 at 17:56:59
To all the Martinez doubters on the thread - we need to remember that Wigan have been financially worse-off than us and that Martinez has never had the chance to buy or keep hold of decent defenders. His passing game is excellent, and with the likes of Distin, Jags, and Coleman, I do not think he would face defensive worries of the scale that he has to endure at Wigan. Being based in England and having married a Scot, he would also be a long-term prospect.
Having said that, if he takes Wigan down he may have a tough time deciding if he should stay and try to bring them back up again.
363 Posted 09/05/2013 at 18:02:49
364 Posted 09/05/2013 at 18:06:13
365 Posted 09/05/2013 at 18:11:08
366 Posted 09/05/2013 at 18:06:53
I for one am already looking forward to next season as, whatever happens, it won't be boring and predictable. Think I'll also go and lay on us as Champions for next season.
No more Naismith, Anichebe, Round, Neville.... ooooo — can't wait!
367 Posted 09/05/2013 at 18:05:23
The best manager in the history of English football specifically requested the recruitment of 'tactically devoid,' David Moyes to replace him, putting into context every single piece of garbage you've ever written about him.
Deal with it..
368 Posted 09/05/2013 at 18:05:42
Mark Press — a big send off? no I do not think so, for a man who spent 11 years bottling every important match that mattered. The Anfield coward? I can't wait until he's gone.... Watch him destroy Man Utd before he is sacked.
I think it's fair to say Laudrup is the only sensible choice; he can play on a budget and knows the European market. Laudrup was a quality player... knows his stuff — the complete opposite of Gollum.
On a different note, how in the world can this be?
Martinez 6/4
V Pereira 4/1 – yes please
N Lennon 5/1 – no thanks
Di Matteo 14/1 – yes please
P Neville 14/1 – no, never!
M Hughes 14 /1 – above
D Ferguson 16/1 – no, never!
Laudrup 16/1 – yes, please....
The best manager outside of Pereira ...so why is he bottom of the betting pool when he is far superior to them all?? It can't be that hard to lure him away from Swansea???
369 Posted 09/05/2013 at 18:23:54
370 Posted 09/05/2013 at 18:26:11
It will be very strange not to see Moyes on our bench next season, but it will be far more strange to see him there on Sunday. It's sad that he did not resign immediately and that he will not conduct himself over this next fortnight or so with the dignity and decency that we have come to expect from him
371 Posted 09/05/2013 at 18:15:14
As for staying on. What a joke! Go now and give Phil Neville a chance till end of season. See how he approaches the games,in particular the Chelsea game.
In the summer if that didn't work well, lets look at the Porto guy or Rijkaard.
372 Posted 09/05/2013 at 18:33:08
Come on mate, he's given his notice and will see out the rest of his contract, that's what our engineering manager just did and there's nothing wrong with that.
373 Posted 09/05/2013 at 18:22:50
374 Posted 09/05/2013 at 18:32:53
I think it's a bit churlish asking him to go straight away, but the timing of it was very poor. Eleven years deserves at least some acknowledgement.
Ultimately, I think Mark at 502 was spot on.
376 Posted 09/05/2013 at 18:36:34
377 Posted 09/05/2013 at 18:40:17
Surely you should be ecstatic at the blindingly bright future ahead, rather than continuing the propaganda in a war that nobody else if fighting.
378 Posted 09/05/2013 at 18:40:47
He's between 12 and 16/1 (Shop around). Moyes' recommendation will be Malky McKay, he's Scottish, 41 years old, used to working on a tight budget and is one of the most highly regarded young coaches in the country, Listen to the fans? Don't make me laugh, Billy Boy will listen to Moyes and Moyes will recommend McKay. 'He's cut from the same cloth' — That quote ring any bells??
379 Posted 09/05/2013 at 18:41:42
Frida... well, tch!
382 Posted 09/05/2013 at 18:47:09
And it will be.....wait for it.....wait.............. Gary Megson
383 Posted 09/05/2013 at 18:25:17
He had many chances to jig a great club. He never managed it. However now with a silver platter maybe he can win something.
Only Man Utd's current momentum can keep him in the top job beyond the end of next season.
385 Posted 09/05/2013 at 18:43:21
386 Posted 09/05/2013 at 18:52:04
387 Posted 09/05/2013 at 18:54:32
Yes his style of football may have been frustrating some seasons, but ultimately he changed the way we played, and over the seasons less and less of the lackluster long ball football that all Evertonians loathed has been played. A man who brought in great players to the club (Baines, Jags, Neville Pienaar etc.) on virtually no budget at all.
A great man, a humble man, a man who has always been at Everton since I've been a season ticket holder. A man who i will miss, and this change will take me time adjust. I can almost guarantee in the 1st few games under the reign of the new manager my dad will almost certainly shout 'Time to make a change Moyes' as he so often has in the seasons gone by.
Who next? the best man for the job in my eyes is Martinez or Laudrup, they remind me of Moyes in a way the way they are a humble but show a great passion for the clubs they are involved in. Both are good tacticians and like to play a passing style of football and have a drive to win! My front runner would be Martinez and i would like to see him bring McManaman with him, as he would be a great addition to the side.
If Laudrup is appointed, Michu would be a dream as well! I also believe the appointment of a new manager would be good for the younger generation as it would get rid of the Moyes favourites such as Osman and Pienaar... who yes are great players, but are ageing and a new manager would hopefully introduce players like Barkley, Duffy and Vellios.
I am going to miss Moyes and i think we will feel his loss. Good luck to the man at United...we just have to look forward and focus on getting the best replacement we can. Thanks for Everything David.
388 Posted 09/05/2013 at 18:51:06
If you see the poll on ToffeeWeb, you will see Laudrup has got the highest percentage of votes. Well, if he can be be lured away from Swansea now, I can see him being lured away from us by a bigger club a coupl of years down the line. That is why I prefer Martinez.
As Brent says, 'tch'!
389 Posted 09/05/2013 at 18:47:42
Moyes would never leave us high and dry with two important games to go. The players wouldn't want that and neither do I.
391 Posted 09/05/2013 at 18:56:30
392 Posted 09/05/2013 at 19:01:24
Back to drawing board
393 Posted 09/05/2013 at 18:54:50
Moyes has gone to make way for a better manager and better times ahead for us, that is what we should believe. If it's Martinez, I will give him my full support and let him try to work his magic with us for a couple of seasons. No-one is bigger than Everton Football Club, managers come and go but supporters don't.
As for Moyes, thanks for stabilizing us and constantly failing to win us any silverware and the dreadful hoofball... but thanks and goodbye and good luck in your new job... haha!
Tsch to those Tsching! lol
394 Posted 09/05/2013 at 19:05:49
Roberto Martinez 9/5
Neil Lennon 4/1
Vitor Pereira 6/1
Phil Neville 12/1
Mark Hughes 14/1
Martin O'Neill 14/1
Malky Mackay 14/1
Duncan Ferguson 16/1
Michael Laudrup 20/1
Eddie Howe 20/1
Rafael Benitez 25/1
Steve Clarke 25/1
Roberto Di Matteo 28/1
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer 28/1
David Weir 28/1
Steve Round 33/1
Alan Stubbs 33/1
Stuart McCall 33/1
Gus Poyet 33/1
Sam Allardyce 33/1
Slaven Bilic 40/1
Jupp Heynckes 40/1
Ally McCoist 40/1
Paul Ince 50/1
Sven Goran Eriksson 50/1
Steve Kean 50/1
Paul Lambert 66/1
Peter Reid 66/1
Steve McClaren 66/1
Harry Redknapp 66/1
Steve Bruce 66/1
Darren Ferguson 80/1
Alan Curbishley 80/1
David Jones 80/1
Mike Phelan 80/1
Owen Coyle 80/1
Alex McLeish 100/1
Walter Smith 100/1
Roy Keane 100/1
Gary Lineker 100/1
Terry Venables 100/1
Jose Mourinho 125/1
Brendan Rodgers 125/1
Alan Shearer 125/1
Andy Gray 125/1
Alan Irvine 150/1
395 Posted 09/05/2013 at 18:52:11
Kenwright - don't fuck this up. NO third rate shite like Mark Hughes or we will all friggin riot like hibbert scored a hat trick.
396 Posted 09/05/2013 at 19:06:10
Anyway - odds changing rapidly - now Mick McCarthy is approaching fast on the rail as a caretaker until 2024
397 Posted 09/05/2013 at 19:10:26
398 Posted 09/05/2013 at 19:12:19
399 Posted 09/05/2013 at 15:10:33
1) His loyalty to Everton.
2) His ability to bring in good players cheap (Baines, Coleman, Distin, Arteta)
3) For building a team that is difficult to beat. ( only 6 games this season).
4) For maintaining the Everton spirit and keeping us free from Suarez, Barton types,
5) For being honest!
Quite a few things I did not like about Moyes!
1) Complete lack of humour and charisma.
2) KITAPO tactics.
3) Taking eight years to find a better right back than
Hibbo.
4) Destroying our winning run by completely changing the team against RS before the semi-final two years ago.
5) Speaking well of Kenwright. (See 1. Likes)
6) Picking players out of form who needed a kick up the arse! (Howard, Osman etc.).
7) Picking Neville instead of Gibson in quarter final against Wigan,
8) For not giving young players chances and confidence!
9) For numerous soul destroying comments ( i.e. like bringing a knife to a gunfight!)
10) For being Boring!
400 Posted 09/05/2013 at 19:12:29
401 Posted 09/05/2013 at 19:15:25
402 Posted 09/05/2013 at 19:18:12
403 Posted 09/05/2013 at 19:16:52
For me, apart from a handful or two of matches in his 11 year reign have been shocking.
Just seen that kenwright interview.
The part where he says almost in tears I won't lie to you. almost did fall of my chair laughing at how pathetic he really is
404 Posted 09/05/2013 at 19:21:12
405 Posted 09/05/2013 at 19:19:54
407 Posted 09/05/2013 at 19:11:47
408 Posted 09/05/2013 at 19:25:29
409 Posted 09/05/2013 at 19:25:52
Lennon or McCarthy?
410 Posted 09/05/2013 at 19:19:46
If that were the case (Nb: Ferguson wants to 'teach Moyes how to manage,') then why didn't he just hire someone off the street instead?
How you can belittle an appointment to the biggest job in world football is utterly beyond me.
Get back to class.
414 Posted 09/05/2013 at 19:34:59
415 Posted 09/05/2013 at 19:39:53
416 Posted 09/05/2013 at 19:44:23
Who should replace him? How about a someone like Duncan Ferguson, with someone older, more experienced over him... Joe Royle maybe?
Whoever comes in, they need the money to improve the squad...
417 Posted 09/05/2013 at 19:50:38
418 Posted 09/05/2013 at 19:45:52
1) Laudrup + Highly respected, Winner, works well on a limited budget, teams play attractive and effective football, has wonderfully coiffured hair
2) Clarke + Experienced, works well on a limited budget, teams play good football.
3) Martines + Teams play attractive football, used to being skint, loyal. - Wigan look like being relegated!
4) McKay + Has a solid philosophy to team building. Succeeded fulfiling Cardiff's potential where Dave Jones failed. - No PL experience.
I'm getting used to the possibility that Baines and Fellaini will leave in the summer. On the plus side the new boss will have money to spend building his own team on a very solid base. This is a new chapter in Everton's history and we have to be possitive and support whoever comes in.
420 Posted 09/05/2013 at 19:26:48
421 Posted 09/05/2013 at 19:58:04
422 Posted 09/05/2013 at 20:00:18
423 Posted 09/05/2013 at 19:42:10
424 Posted 09/05/2013 at 19:58:42
Moyes is a professional who cares about Everton. He will do his best to win these last two games. He wants us to finish higher than Lpool.
I wouldn't mind betting that Everton is the first score he looks for after 'Moyestime' at OT.
Hoping he will still be a friend to Everton and slip us the odd goodun.
Thanks Moyesie, it's an opportunity to change things up.
425 Posted 09/05/2013 at 20:12:29
426 Posted 09/05/2013 at 20:18:00
I think everyone should ignore you - you're clearly just a WUM
427 Posted 09/05/2013 at 20:20:52
Having said that - people have very very short memories or a sense of love or forgiveness these days.
429 Posted 09/05/2013 at 20:17:23
430 Posted 09/05/2013 at 20:32:31
431 Posted 09/05/2013 at 20:25:09
1. David Moyes has been a fantastic manager for Everton during difficult times but a long way from a successful one and certainly not a 'great'. He is now the manager of Manchester United so why in God's name is he being allowed to manage Everton for the remaining two games. He's made his choiice now please fuck off, we are lowering ourselves almost to give him a testimonial-like send off. If he stays I actually hope he gets booed as he is now a Manchester United manager.
2. IMHO its two years too late, rolling over twice to the RedShite ended my benefit of the doubt with him and the Wigan game this year was equally unforgiveable. He has held this club to ransom whilst knowing for the best part of it what he was going to do....Everton great my arse! Selfish twat more like.
3. Getting a bit sick of the doom-merchants who seem to think that Everton FC are nothing without Moyes. I boldly predict this is the start of a steady decline for Man United whilst, with the right appointment, a decent manager might just come to Everton and show a pair of bollocks in big games.
432 Posted 09/05/2013 at 18:15:08
Our problems lie with the Impresario. As long as he sticks to his toy and doesn't want to sell, there will be no money; hence no achievements.
When is the last time a club outside the top 4 managed to grab a ticket to the Uefa Champions League? Man City made it with lots of money . Spurs, with a big budget, is struggling to get in. If BK does not sell and we don't get decent money to spend, we'll miss Moyes sooner than we think.
434 Posted 09/05/2013 at 20:24:52
The funny thing is about today is those that have continually been on this site saying how much they wanted David Moyes out are the ones that seem to have their knickers in a twist the most. We can now speak about the MOB with some perspective, some have been reasoned in their arguments (in the end I agreed!) and then of course we had the Tim/ Peter, Ross et al of this world.
Moyes will never get a big job they said ........ Oops!
The money doesn't matter they said........ Please read Joe Beardsmore's post
He's never won at Old Trafford........ I'm guessing August 2013
I know the MOB have really mixed emotions tonight and I really hope you were right all along, in fact, if it was still there, I really would offer to show my arse in Lewis's window if we win something next year.
All we can hope for is a progressive ambitious manager, not the old guard looking for a final payout. Poyet for me.
435 Posted 09/05/2013 at 20:20:52
Who cares anyway we are Everton aren't we?
436 Posted 09/05/2013 at 20:53:46
loose lips sink ships me think......
437 Posted 09/05/2013 at 20:47:21
If Pereira came in we would get a good manager and be saving a few quid on top
439 Posted 09/05/2013 at 20:59:11
I remember him being a very good manager who was completely 'hands on' with every aspect of the club, he has also managed the Latvian national team!
It would be a huge gamble though but I would definitely have him over any of the other usual out of work dross we are currently linked with. His CV is more impressive than most of the out of work old boy's club.
440 Posted 09/05/2013 at 20:57:08
The one -just about - right thing BK has done over his too-long tenure has been the hiring of Moyes, in spite of all his faults. Let him show the same instincts now - although I doubt it.
Above, I've said what I think of Pereira. Do not be fooled just because he's an FC Porto manager. They're not all necessary brilliant...
441 Posted 09/05/2013 at 21:30:50
Alex Ferguson is to become a board member.
Do you really think he'll continue coaching & picking the team?
Can you really see him storming into the dressing-room undermining the manager?
Obviously he's going to show him the ropes & impart wisdom, but you make it sound as though Moyes is some kind of half-wit.
443 Posted 09/05/2013 at 21:48:12
Remember Fergie asked Moyes to be assistant Manager! Neville, Saha, Howard and Gibson come to the blues out of nowhere!
Have Everton been used as a manager academy for Man Utd?
444 Posted 09/05/2013 at 21:55:22
445 Posted 09/05/2013 at 22:04:47
448 Posted 09/05/2013 at 22:07:29
449 Posted 09/05/2013 at 22:10:20
450 Posted 09/05/2013 at 22:12:16
My first coach in charge of my Toffees, you won't be my last! Lets get someone in who can take us to that next level!'
451 Posted 09/05/2013 at 22:13:12
452 Posted 09/05/2013 at 22:11:43
Graham, I've got this strange mental image of a man without an arse! Where did you see it last?
453 Posted 09/05/2013 at 22:01:40
I can't wish you all the best I'm afraid 'cos I hate everything about ManUre so I hope you take with you the team's Big Game Bottling trait, the only fault you never corrected.
Kenwright, your guardian angel has gone, be afraid, be very afraid!
454 Posted 09/05/2013 at 21:27:22
Farewell to the man who picked the team and tactics that got Evertons biggest ever win in Europe.
Farewell to the manager that brought through the holder of the title Premier Leagues Youngest Goalscorer on no less than 3 different occasions
455 Posted 09/05/2013 at 22:15:53
456 Posted 09/05/2013 at 19:44:35
457 Posted 09/05/2013 at 22:19:26
You're right of course. Now these guys have to switch from alleging that Moyes is tactically inept to claiming that Man U are incapable of running a football club. How else, for instance, could they even consider employing DM......
The main point for me though is the lack of loyalty shown and their fickleness. As I have said I'm sure the very same group will be the first out of the traps next season calling for the new manager (whoever it is) to be sacked. It goes hand in hand with unrealistic expectations and a refusal to accept reality.
I can't say that I look at any of the potential candidates and really relish the thought of them taking over. Most of them are journeymen who have already been discredited and would (probably) simply put us back in the pack chasing relegation. The one exception, perhaps, for me is Laudrup but I suspect it will be too expensive for us to buy out his contract with Swansea.
And therein lies the problem - we have the same owners, the same precarious financial position so we won't be able to pick and choose who we want.
However, I am an eternal optimist when it comes to Everton - so let's hope we pull someone out of the bag, we grab a bit of cash from somewhere and we gain some momentum from a fresh start....
458 Posted 09/05/2013 at 22:37:49
459 Posted 09/05/2013 at 22:39:17
460 Posted 09/05/2013 at 22:37:24
My allegiance is to Everton Football Club not any player or manager.
At the end of the day Moyes has been shown up like the rest of the bastards, what suits him when it suits him !
All his talk about the correct way of doing things - all my arse !!
Total lack of respect to the fans and Club.
I don't give a shit what Man U and Ferguson do or announce.
Moyes should have had the decency to keep his trap shut until after the Chelsea game.
He's spent years telling everyone else how to act correctly, pity he couldn't practise what he preached.
Should piss off right now. Disgrace !
461 Posted 09/05/2013 at 22:40:50
462 Posted 09/05/2013 at 22:44:24
463 Posted 09/05/2013 at 22:34:24
We need to stand together and reserve judgement on the chairman until Moyes's replacement arrives. We need to be united... excuse the pun... but now is not the time to gripe about the chairman. I wish him well in persuading a quality replacement to manage the club; I don't envy him — it's going to be a hard task.
A manager that knows how to win things would be nice.... Laudrup, Benitez, Di Matteo (maybe), Huddink (if only).
464 Posted 09/05/2013 at 22:50:15
Michael Winstanley: My vote would be for a 'dream-team,' package of Eugene Ruane & Kev Johnson to replace Moyes & Round, with Neville Southall as Sporting Director/ Courvoisier Coordinator..!!
465 Posted 09/05/2013 at 22:47:28
466 Posted 09/05/2013 at 23:00:00
Don't tell me I have to read all 424 posts to understand why name has been put forward?
467 Posted 09/05/2013 at 23:06:13
468 Posted 09/05/2013 at 22:58:59
We'd be too busy laughing at manager Eugene Ruane's bit in the match programme to notice whats happening on the pitch. And of course Kev would obviously be "assistant player-manager"
469 Posted 09/05/2013 at 23:06:17
470 Posted 09/05/2013 at 23:07:48
471 Posted 09/05/2013 at 23:11:41
472 Posted 09/05/2013 at 23:15:45
473 Posted 09/05/2013 at 22:52:30
474 Posted 09/05/2013 at 23:13:32
475 Posted 09/05/2013 at 23:21:55
Oh, and can you imagine Ruane's post-match interviews..?!
476 Posted 09/05/2013 at 23:18:55
I didn't think you'd be this much of a diva but now I know why no club has come in for you after all this time...
477 Posted 09/05/2013 at 23:31:47
478 Posted 09/05/2013 at 23:19:59
We'll be fine, we have a good group of players, use the Baines and Fellaini money to make the additions and strengthen and perhaps now we'll win Sky 5 teams and don't choke when we have our chance..
C.O.Y.B.
479 Posted 09/05/2013 at 23:49:55
480 Posted 10/05/2013 at 00:04:51
481 Posted 10/05/2013 at 00:13:35
Also, can't believe some of you lads agreeing that he should be still in charge for those 2 games.
483 Posted 10/05/2013 at 01:43:28
484 Posted 10/05/2013 at 01:44:43
485 Posted 10/05/2013 at 02:08:16
I think it's fine that Moyes sees the next two games, but the outcome and/or style of the games will have a massive impact on how he is regarded by fans as of the last game.
Would love to have our manager situation sorted by the Chelsea game so whoever it is has ample time to sort the squad out, send a few of Moyes' Boys packing and bring in a couple of fresh faces.
486 Posted 10/05/2013 at 03:31:27
2002-03 7th
2003-04 17th
2004-05 4th - YAY!
2005-06 11th
2006-07 6th
2007-08 5th
2008-09 5th
2009-10 8th
2010-11 7th
2011-12 7th
2012-13 6th
10 years before him looks like this:
2000-01 16th
1999-00 13th
1998-99 14th
1997-98 17th
1996-97 15th
1995-96 6th
1994-95 15th & FA Cup -Yay!
1993-92 17th
1992-93 13th
1991-92 12th
Speaks for itself! No time to be bitter about him going. There's not a manager alive who wouldn't like to try a go at Man Utd. You can't blame him and we should all cheer him off on Sunday. He deserves that much.
Served out his contract, which obviously still means something to some people with dignity and loyalty. He's done all he can do at Everton with fuck all cash. Obviously wasn't gonna get any more for next season so fair play, I reckons. All you moaning cunts on here that wanted him to go, I hope you're happy coz we'll be finishing seasons more like the second lot without him. David William Moyes – Legend!!!
487 Posted 10/05/2013 at 05:10:18
Real style. Elegant. Prosaic. Moderate. Tempered.
Just what we need.
Cheers.
488 Posted 10/05/2013 at 05:20:26
"I hope you're happy coz we'll be finishing seasons more like the second lot without him."
What does it mean:?
Now, on the basis of your full pos,t we shouldn't expect too much, but please explain this.
489 Posted 10/05/2013 at 05:20:36
Sorry mate you must have seen something a lot of us missed! He's been harping on for years about the "correct way to do things". He decided to say nothing until the end of the season, and regardless, in my opinion that DID affect the players.
The last few weeks he's been going on about things that affect us next season and all the time he knew full well he wouldn't be re-signing. Then, with 2 games to go, he announces his new job!! He's as bad as the players he's slagged over the years.
He's gone and we move on, but "dignity and loyalty" — no chance!!!
490 Posted 10/05/2013 at 06:05:42
Now they've got their wish they're even more bitter and moaning because they've been proven wrong.
491 Posted 10/05/2013 at 06:12:18
It wasn't his decision to announce this now. He would have seen out his contract and then announced it. We don't have to fawn over the man, but it would be nice for him to have a couple of games for us to say thanks - and for him to say thanks to us.
I do feel some slight angst that he's been allowed to run down his contract - but he is well within his rights to do that.
Good luck from me, Moyes. Not a chance in hell he'd have got that job if he was born south of the border though.
492 Posted 10/05/2013 at 07:03:09
493 Posted 09/05/2013 at 22:12:16
My first coach in charge of my Toffees, you won't be my last! Lets get someone in who can take us to that next level!'
494 Posted 10/05/2013 at 07:13:43
495 Posted 10/05/2013 at 07:13:13
And Peter Thistle:
“Evertons fantastic fans have played a big part in making my years at Goodison so enjoyable and I thank them wholeheartedly for the support they have given me and the players."
Which part of that are you having trouble with?
496 Posted 10/05/2013 at 07:17:27
497 Posted 10/05/2013 at 07:23:36
498 Posted 10/05/2013 at 07:28:13
499 Posted 10/05/2013 at 07:28:10
What an ill formed comment. I await your apology.
Tony Hanlon
Those final weeks are essentially Moyes' holiday pay. Your gripe is with football's financial structure rather than Moyes personally.
Very worried that BK will be 'taking his time' to appoint a replacement. Out of anyone else's mouth I'd take that as a good thing. Proven liar Kenwright actually means, 'I can sell a few key players without dealing with a manger and I can also save a few quid on wages.'
501 Posted 10/05/2013 at 07:44:33
502 Posted 10/05/2013 at 07:50:27
Also, in all this, where has the honesty and integrity gone that we are always hearing from lads on here in regards to Moyes? I just can't believe that some of you are that naïve to think that in the space of 24hrs, Fergie decided to retire and Moyes is installed as manager. This has been in the pipeline for months.
By the way, it's nothing to do with being bitter, it's about us looking a fucking joke and dancing to the tune of the Mancs and Moyes.
503 Posted 10/05/2013 at 08:02:58
Pereira now 4th favourite and according to The Times has shown interest in the position.....
504 Posted 10/05/2013 at 08:08:18
505 Posted 10/05/2013 at 08:07:59
If anyone thinks Moyes only found about about Utds interest the day after Ferguson told his players then sorry but you're in cloud cookoo land.
I personally was not that bothered whether Moyes stayed or left. Everton Football Club go on.
Anyway my issue has always been with the Board and not the Manager.
Saying that I think the end of the Moyes era has been pathetically handled by all concerned.
When Moyes sat down with Fergie et al, whenever it was - certainly NOT Wednesday ! He could have well insisted that no announcement using his name be made until the end of the season.
As far as I'm concerned his integrity and honesty is shot !
We've nowt to play for now as once he announced his new position he should have gone.
506 Posted 10/05/2013 at 08:14:35
507 Posted 10/05/2013 at 08:11:07
Now we hear that there is no rush to appoint a new manager.What about preparing for the new season, transfers etc?
This should be a really exciting time, we have got rid of a negative defensive minded manager and we have the opportunity to appoint a new man with a vision for the club.
I am worried. We do not want a British manager, they are clueless tactically.We have just had one who had no idea about tactics( apart from defending).
509 Posted 10/05/2013 at 08:58:25
I think DM has been excellent for Everton, but I am shocked at how taken aback the board esp Bill K seem to be.
Your most senior employee is letting his contract run down and you haven't asked quietly "ok David are you going to Utd? You are, ok who do you rate as a replacement ? Is Phil Neville ready or not yet, hmm, Martinez etc ?"
"Ok we'll keep it under wraps for now and quietly work in the background to review your successor".
Instead we have a startled bunny in the TV headlights
Think about where we were before Davey came on board and how consistently we have been near the top of the league.
The guy has been a success, no question and we should applaud him for that.
510 Posted 10/05/2013 at 09:08:25
I support Everton not the Dave Moyes , we need a change from the same teams winning all the time.
511 Posted 10/05/2013 at 09:29:06
Absolutely right. I can't believe he's come out and said he was clueless. The guy was out of contract, surely you've got to plan for his departure - even if you think it's unlikely. And even if you were completely clueless, wouldn't you at least feign that you had an inkling and that the wheels were in motion to find a successor. No - Kenwright stands in front of the national media and freely admits his idiocy.
512 Posted 10/05/2013 at 08:57:02
It may well be a sort of holiday pay thing, it may well be a reflection of footballs financial structures, but those shouting about this strange six weeks as mgr of Everton AND Man Utd surely have a point ? He's not getting paid by Utd, it appears, yet from 20th May it is more than unreal to not assume that's all he's thinking about, planning for and practically interested in ? In fact it's actually blatently wrong. It's a terrible insult to us and has to be resolved quickly.
Think about this, DM is we are repeatedly told a totally sad, intense, research guy, and we are asked to believe that, two weeks or so holiday aside, he's going to NOT be talking to Utd Chairman et al about whose staying, whose to be sold and who is on the list of money almost no object purchases ? Moyes is simply not a mgr who can sit back and "lose" six vital weeks of close season squad planning and transfer action. In the meantime he surely CANNOT be having ANY meaningful discussion with Everton players about their future, cannot be planning and auctioning vital player moves in and out, so Utd will get his attention, his preparation, whilst EFC will in practical terms get nothing, lose six key weeks and pay around 400k for the privilege ? It's not hysteria to question how that can be right whatever the contractual T&Cs is it ?
As for the new mgr.....we of course will not really be consulted and frankly that's not all bad as to read some of the stuff from the last 24hrs Bill will be getting strong recommendations for Mark Hughes who has a truly appalling record and attitude yet apparently is a great mgr cos he's "hard as nails". God help us. Bill will it seems also be getting equally strong recommendations for folk who cannot lay any reasonable claim to even a basic top level track record and whilst many of the names seem a decent bet for the No2 slot, how can anyone really think these untried (mostly) ex players are ready now to take us fwd and which top notch players in Europe will be attracted to a club led by a Stubbsy or a Big Dunc or a Davy Weir ????
There are some things getting a little clearer. Swansea, having cleverly shifted Brenda for £5m are now thinking they can double that for Laudrup. We won't pay £3m let alone £10 in compo. Few seem to think that Di Matteo is a "Bill choice" or that he will come.....at least that's what the betting money says......which saddens me a lot. There remains a very strong view in the media that Martinez has to distance himself from our job, just for ten days, then whatever the outcome of his regular relegation battle he's one of the two top contenders.....the other being Lennon, which leaves me strangely cold. Why ? Well I guess because I don't see managing Celtic in a one club league is any different to managing a Championship or even League one side....it's more media yes, but hardly a stretch ? I can see he's done better in the CL this year, so that's a plus. But Lennon comes with what some refer to as baggage, he makes Moyes look an angel in terms of aggro with the authorities and the religious intensity worries me, not because I give a fig about his beliefs, they are his to hold, but the publicity that surrounds them is perhaps a huge distraction ? I suspect he's more wronged than sinner in all this and I'm not sure it's an issue at all, but it feels "out there".....am I wrong in this ? Truth is I'd rather gamble that Martinez is better than his Wigan record suggests and his flair and excellent player mgt, and I think good rep in Europe, is enough to make him the guy we need.
We need a quick appointment. We deserve the best we can afford and can get. We should be offering Baines an immediate rise and massive contract extension to make him our best paid player, he's worth 90k per week or even 100k and that's what he would get with Moyes at Utd. I'd like to think Jags will stay and am not as horrified as I thought I would be about Felli leaving. But for me losing Baines is not acceptable at any price.
513 Posted 10/05/2013 at 10:02:47
514 Posted 10/05/2013 at 10:19:40
515 Posted 10/05/2013 at 10:17:28
You can't blame anyone for going to that job and trying it out but I hope to God above that we get someone who will adapt and change styles to suit the game we play. Martin O'Neill, Neil Lennon, Rafa, Mark Hughes, Redknapp or Duncan Ferguson aren't a good fit so please BK don't entertain it and choose someone who can get us playing to win, not us playing to not lose
516 Posted 10/05/2013 at 10:27:06
He will be the cheapest option.
517 Posted 10/05/2013 at 10:32:11
518 Posted 10/05/2013 at 10:41:53
The pictures that are sickening you are mostly old images of him smiling in an Everton jacket. Hardly the disgraceful act you describe.
519 Posted 10/05/2013 at 10:42:05
If we were playing Man City at Wembley this weekend would Alex Ferguson have waited to announce his retirement?
520 Posted 10/05/2013 at 10:39:35
My opinion. I'm entitled to it.
521 Posted 10/05/2013 at 10:49:45
522 Posted 10/05/2013 at 10:53:30
How long do you think Moyes knew about Utd's interest?
523 Posted 10/05/2013 at 11:00:46
It's on Wikipedia so it must be 100% true
524 Posted 10/05/2013 at 10:57:28
526 Posted 10/05/2013 at 11:27:07
I think this has been wrapped up for at least a few months so I can't stand the way Moyes is coming out of this whiter than white in some peoples eyes. The man has moved the goal posts a few times this past year over his contract.
He sat on tele next to BK, both giving the impression it wasn't a big deal and could be sorted in 5 mins ( then why not if thats how easy it was ). Then Moyes said he would make a decision in January. January came and went, all of a sudden it became about how the team finishes the season and he would make a decision based on that.
Somewhere in that timeline he was approached by Utd and accepted the job and it defo wasn't in the last couple of days. So he has been stringing the club along, saying one thing while having different intentions. The only question is how long has the deceit been going on for?
527 Posted 10/05/2013 at 11:34:54
528 Posted 10/05/2013 at 11:38:57
He has given us 11 good years and every year has been the same when it comes to money. It's the same as working for a company every year that just about makes a profit but never makes enough to compete and grow. After 11 years he owes us nothing and nobody can complain about this.
I imagine that he had known about it months ago and was told not to commit to anything at Everton in the meantime. That's fair enough and I don't see a problem at all.
I just hope Kenwright has asked Moyes who HE thinks should be the next manager - I reckon he would have an idea. I just hope it isn't O'Neill/Hughes or Lennon - oh dear.
529 Posted 10/05/2013 at 11:40:49
Get Lucien Favre in. A great tactician, fast counter attacking football. I can't wait!
DO NOT GET A BRITISH MANAGER THEY DON'T DO TACTICS!
530 Posted 10/05/2013 at 11:40:43
There is alot of conspiracy theorising... a desire, it seems, to demonise the manager who has put us back onto the map. We have been good for Moyes, and he has been good for us. I am sad to see him go. Why can't we just say goodbye amicably, without suggesting he has been in cohorts with another team? There is projecting going on... probably from anger. But he is gone now. The manager who would never get a top offer has got the biggest of all, and we will get a chance, which many of the critics have desired, to try a different direction. And BK, for all his faults, does not need a manager in place now. We will likely get someone when the season is over and done with, when we know whether Wigan are still in this league or not (because from the appearance of things, it seems he is our number 1 target). We will not lose out by waiting a few days.
And Moyes is still our manager till July, not United's. He has been with us for eleven years, and is not going to cease caring because he is leaving.
531 Posted 10/05/2013 at 11:50:42
I think BK knew he was leaving but was powerless to stop it.
532 Posted 10/05/2013 at 11:53:01
That's why the pro-Moyes crowd have always been so confident in his ability. And why many of us fear the next 10 years.
533 Posted 10/05/2013 at 11:50:42
I think BK knew he was leaving but was powerless to stop it.
534 Posted 10/05/2013 at 12:02:40
Bill has never told us a mis-truth before has he? He never had an inkling about Moyes going to Man U.....riiiiiiiiigght!!
536 Posted 10/05/2013 at 12:56:55
Paul, neither you nor I know how long it has been since Moyes decided enough is enough, and accepted an offer from Utd. I agree with Jim Knightley in his excellent 240 post, it may be weeks but not months and that if Bungalow Bill had backed him in January he may well have signed his contract. I cannot believe Kenwright is as shocked as he is trying to make out, after all, the subject of Moyes = Utd has been in every gossip column for a year or so, so don't fall for his acting, please. I'm not blind to Moyes faults, either, and his substitutions at 80mins had me tearing what's left of my hair out as did , on occasions, his team selection and failure to play some of the younger lads but he has left this club light years better than when he took over, the fact that we are disappointed with 6th place is proof of that, and for that fact alone he deserves our gratitude and respect. I believe he is an honourable man who has fought our corner since he arrived and, apart from "knife to a gunfight" and a semi-final debacle, he has been a top ambassador for Everton Fc. Again, my opinion.
537 Posted 10/05/2013 at 13:23:03
538 Posted 10/05/2013 at 13:06:51
I do have a nagging feeling that he has sold us down the river in the way it has happened however. Deals like this don't happen overnight. Did he know about this (Fergies mate etc) months ago and therefore refuse to sign a contract under the pretence of waiting to see what money was available and if players were going to be retained ? We all know funds will be limited in the summer so he must have known this too as January was a large hint.
Therefore he doesnt sign the contract as he knows Utd would not have to pay compensation to buy him out thus weakening us financially, furthermore he can then poach players at a cheaper price knowing we need the money over the summer.
Perhaps this is worth thinking about during the theatricals on Sunday when our ex manager will be the centre of attention rather than the players.
I do feel that he should have been put on gardening leave once he made his decision and a caretaker eg Stubbs,Sheedy be put in charge for the last couple of games.
Mr Moyes's celebration should be his introduction to the Utd fans at the first game of the season, not his last game at Goodison
539 Posted 10/05/2013 at 14:58:18
540 Posted 10/05/2013 at 15:05:13
I was planning for next season with EFC and planning to stay. Who do you think we are Moyes? That is prime bull. Do you honestly expect us to believe that you were not talking to Man-U about this move this calendar year?
And now you want to stick your nose into our future - I'll give Bill ('a good man') all the help he wants to get the right central defender I mean man for the job. Keep the fuck away, though I suppose there's no hope of that is there.
541 Posted 10/05/2013 at 15:14:19
A description of your posts, there! Only one word with capitals, though. Improving.
542 Posted 10/05/2013 at 16:32:31
543 Posted 10/05/2013 at 17:28:04
544 Posted 10/05/2013 at 17:57:08
No idea he was leaving ha ha ha ha ha
He cant smell the shit in his own garden.
He should have said to Moyes sign or go. Does anyone believe for one minute Moyes wasn't informed/tipped off by Sir Alex months ago?
I'm sure Moyes knew before Xmas.
545 Posted 10/05/2013 at 18:31:33
Maradona at 949-1. Boy would he entertain us!
546 Posted 10/05/2013 at 20:38:13
The simple cure for sickness and tiredness on a discussion board is just don't respond to what's causing your sickness and tiredness.
See the name, feel sick and tired? Skip to the next name, refreshed. If only the world of medicine was as simple.
As much as I hate to say it on a great site like TW, there are a couple fellows I read, think, "What the fuck are you doing in here?", shake my head or laugh at them, and just move to the next post.
Just ignore them and focus on the intelligent conversation. After all, we both, and the bulk of us, come in here because most of the discussion is intelligent. Why waste time on the tiny percentage that displays no intelligence at all?
Now, saying this, I appreciate mine is one of the names people see and can't wait to read what I have to say.
547 Posted 10/05/2013 at 21:18:18
Never been to Liverpool. But New York City is basically Liverpool in America and I grew up surrounded by the gambling crowd. C'mon already.
That the Glazers knew Fergy was going once the league trophy was secured, I'll accept. The guy was hardly retiring before he brought the league trophy to ManU's side of town.
Since then, I can accept everything happened real fast; particularly given Fergy's over-the-years, repeated, complimetary remarks on what Moyes has managed to do at Everton with ManU pocket change.
The big take-away with all this is the Bill could always say, "I'm not naked. The clothes are invisible". It was true as long as Moyes was the invisable cloak.
Now Bill's naked. Which means the Club is. Won't be a problem the next year or 2. The fellows we retain are not a relegation team.
After that?
548 Posted 10/05/2013 at 11:53:22
That said, I'm a massive fan of your next season starting the day after your current season ends - anyone in the Brisbane area remember Brothers Rugby training the day after losing the 2008 grand final? - and that we need a manager urgently.
549 Posted 10/05/2013 at 22:20:10
1. It seems to be accepted by the media that Ferguson was going to retire last season but for Aguero's last dash goal. Presumably Moyes was targeted then.
2. Moyes has allowed his contract to run down.
3. The deal was done and dusted within hours of Moyes meeting Kenwright which would indicate that it had been prior agreed.
4. Most importantly and I'm not sure how widespread this knowledge is but an Everton website (Everton Arent We) was told by a source on 3rd March that at the end of the season Ferguson was going upstairs and that he was being replaced by Moyes. That website released the information that day on twitter. Therefore, the comments from Moyes that this all occurred this week is rather questionable.
That same source has apparantly said that Everton have a shortlist of 3 for Moyes replacement: Roberto Martinez, Neil Lennon and surprisingly Steve Bruce.
551 Posted 10/05/2013 at 23:14:45
552 Posted 11/05/2013 at 00:11:29
Just taking all that in...and I did not think I would laugh so much, so soon after Moyes departure. Thank you...
553 Posted 11/05/2013 at 00:25:19
Juventus coach Antonio Conte says he could be tempted by a move to the Premier League after steering the Turin side to back-to-back Serie A titles.
"It's not a secret the fact that I would like to work abroad" Conte told the BBC's World Football programme.
"I hope, in the future, to be a coach in the Premier League," the 43-year-old added in English, after conducting the rest of the interview in Italian.
Conte has previously said he wants to discuss his future with Juve officials.
554 Posted 11/05/2013 at 00:26:00
555 Posted 11/05/2013 at 00:31:03
556 Posted 11/05/2013 at 00:20:00
I am actually pleased that he has gone to United as it means that within a year we will have a pretty good idea of whether he was the 'Moyesiah' or just 'Dithering Davey', and whether his 'achievements' will be exceeded, equalled, or beyond his successor.
I think DM will approach the next two games in the same way he would have approached them if he wasn't departing immediately after them, and I see no reason why our best players will automatically follow him down the East Lancs.
The key factors will be who we are able to appoint as our next manager and how much financial backing we can give them to make their mark on the squad. My biggest worry is that the main quality BK will be looking for is unswerving loyalty to himself in return for a generous pay packet.
557 Posted 11/05/2013 at 00:36:42
I don't give two hoots for his previous unfortunate affiliation (which I presume is his major failing) if he could do a good job for us.
558 Posted 11/05/2013 at 00:38:28
This happens to be the Sunday before the Wigan game on Saturday 9th March, and so it may have unsettled the players and resulted in that abject performance in that FA Cup tie. Funny how the week after they gave an outstanding display against the only team that could realistically challenge United for the title, probably all just coincidental.
559 Posted 11/05/2013 at 01:00:59
560 Posted 11/05/2013 at 01:15:32
http://www.itv.com/sport/football/article/2013-05-08/david-Moyes-odds-on-favourite-to-replace-sir-alex-ferguson-at-old-trafford/
561 Posted 11/05/2013 at 21:43:38
So stop moaning – BK should be the target, not Moyes.
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1 Posted 09/05/2013 at 14:40:00
And now on to our problem of finding a replacement.