Swansea reject big money Everton bid for Sigurdsson

| Sunday, 25 June 2017  107 Comments  [Jump to last]

Everton have had an offer of between £27 and £30m turned down by Swansea City for Gylfi Sigurdsson according to reports.

ESPN FC claim that "sources close to the Welsh club" have told the media outlet that the Swans have rejected a £27m bid for their Icelandic Talisman.

The Mirror, meanwhile, report that the offer was £30m but was met with the same response from Swansea who view him as "priceless".

Sigurdsson was reported to have made it known earlier this year that he fancied playing for a bigger club again and the prospect of Europa League football at Everton could be attractive to him.

At the age of 28, a move to Merseyside might represent Sigurdsson's last big move but whether or not Everton are prepared to up their offer into club-record territory to land him remains to be seen.



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Trevor Lynes
1 Posted 25/06/2017 at 14:38:13
It's a bit cheeky to want £50 million for Barkley and bid just £27 million for a player who has had a much better season than Ross.

Tanvir Akram
2 Posted 25/06/2017 at 14:41:41
I would not go over 㿊 million for him. He is a great player, but Swansea played around him and he was their main man. That won't be the case at Everton. He will look a lot less ordinary – just like at Spurs.

I would prefer Brozovic from Inter. Also, if Barkley does not go, then I doubt he will be bought. However, the transfer market is ridiculous at the moment!

Sean Patton
3 Posted 25/06/2017 at 14:51:44
Hopefully this is the end of the matter or else we are going to get fleeced for a glorified set-piece specialist.
Christopher Wallace
4 Posted 25/06/2017 at 14:54:27
His free kicks, goals from outside box, and consistent world class deliveries from corners are worth 㿊m alone.

He's also very tidy on the ball and an excellent passer. He's a top pro, and a leader on the pitch.

Sign him up, please.

Brian Williams
5 Posted 25/06/2017 at 14:57:28
I wonder whether this is us trying to play one club against another as we've also "allegedly" had a bid for Brozovic turned down; I don't think we'd want both, would we?
Mike Gaynes
6 Posted 25/06/2017 at 15:08:54
Sean (#3), "a glorified set-piece specialist" doesn't create chances like Sigurdsson does.

Yes, half his goals come from free kicks and pens, but he is also the best crosser in the Prem (barring perhaps De Bruyne), which is something we've been desperately needing for two years now. And he simply never makes a mistake on the ball... head and shoulders above Barkley in his decision-making.

Definitely bring him in.

Colin Glassar
7 Posted 25/06/2017 at 15:10:06
He'll be sold for around 㿏m but this might drag on well into the summer... if Koeman really wants him.
Mike Gaynes
8 Posted 25/06/2017 at 15:19:31
True, Colin. No rush on this one for the player or either club.
Tony Hill
9 Posted 25/06/2017 at 15:24:53
Yes, he's a very good player and would improve us. He has fine vision and touch. He lacks some steel and is one-paced but as part of a newly formed team he could be formidable.

We are better looking at these players as part of a jigsaw and not as isolated units. Like any of our targets, we must hope that his strengths are reinforced and his weaknesses diminished by joining us.

I expect that he will come to us after some noise first, so that Swansea don't look as though they've just cashed in.

Brian Williams
10 Posted 25/06/2017 at 15:28:01
Or it might be a phantom bid to pressurize Inter into accepting our "next" bid for Brozovic.
Thomas Surgenor
11 Posted 25/06/2017 at 16:44:25
Don't think we need him. Plus doesn't Sandro fancy himself on dead balls anyway?

I just think there's better options out there for the money.

Chris James
12 Posted 25/06/2017 at 16:44:55
One of the two priorities for me (now the 'keeper space filled) is to get a creative midfielder who'll be creating chances – I'd love to think we'd be bidding for Hazard and Silva types but, for me, Siggy is someone gettable that will improve us in this area. They've quoted 㿔M; we've offered 㿇M... the way we're operating currently, I suspect a deal will be done somewhere in the middle, anything up to 㿏M.

Relatedly I would've been a little interested in Nolito, who looked great against us a few seasons ago – admittedly he didn't light fires at Man City but then a lot of players have disappeared there.

Anyway, get Siggy and Sandro done and on to a top quality front-line striker to replace Rom.

Brian Wilkinson
13 Posted 25/06/2017 at 16:51:37
Swansea have informed Everton they want 㿊 million, I was expecting it to be more. If that is the case, it's got to be worth paying the extra ١ million, considering we want 㿞 million for Barkley.

Ross only has one year remaining on his contract, whereas Siggy extended his contract from 2020,. Seems a fare amount if we are expecting close to 㿞 million for Barkley.

Kieran Kinsella
14 Posted 25/06/2017 at 16:54:46
If we did get him, how would we line up?

Seems to me it would be hard to fit Schneiderlin, Klaassen and Sigurdsson into Ron's preferred line up with defensive midfielders and wideboys or two strikers.

William Cartwright
15 Posted 25/06/2017 at 17:03:33
Assuming he joins us, with others, there will be a squad approach instead of the selected 11 plus the bench.

Allowing for departures, injuries and loss of form then we should bring him in. He with Klaassen will add some intelligence and maturity to the team who won't go missing on big occasions.
COYB

Chris Williams
16 Posted 25/06/2017 at 17:05:38
Kieran,

We often played with a midfield with Arteta, Cahill and Gravesen in. It shouldn't be a problem to accommodate them. They will probably do different jobs.

Andrew Ellams
17 Posted 25/06/2017 at 17:16:17
Chris, Arteta replaced Gravesen.
Mark Morrissey
18 Posted 25/06/2017 at 17:22:56
Thomas @ 11. You must have watched Everton last season? Who do think we have that's a better player than Sigurdsson? He'd be first on Koeman's teamsheet if we got him.

Personally, I'm pleased to hear that we have bid for him but to suggest we don't need him??? Baffled!

Chris Williams
19 Posted 25/06/2017 at 17:29:01
They played together a fair few times, Andrew, I'd thought, although my memory may be a bit faulty.

My main point though is the three players mentioned would be able to play together.

Sam Hoare
20 Posted 25/06/2017 at 17:30:36
Not totally convinced. I think he'd do a good job but a lot of his goals/assists come from set pieces and I just worry that, with him Schneiderlin and Klaassen in the middle, we'd lack a bit of mobility.

I'd prefer someone capable of dribbling past someone and then finding the cute through-ball, more of a Coutinho, Eriksen, Mahrez type.

Mike Gaynes
21 Posted 25/06/2017 at 17:37:05
Kieran, we have a lot of games to play this season. We'll need 'em all.
Nigel Johnson
22 Posted 25/06/2017 at 17:39:11
This is an interesting one for me. If we do go ahead and buy Sigurdsson and have creative options, maybe Lukaku might stay.

I think Everton need to say if no-one offer £100 million by a set time then he is not for sell. But I guess a deal is already agreed and just like Sandro an announcement will be made in July.

It will also be very interesting to see if Everton go with two wingers and an out and out Forward or if Everton go with a big forward and two other front men who can play just behind.

The only player who has got me thinking great is Pickford the other players we have been linked with are okay but not special. Manchester Utd possible linked with Harry Kane Arsenal possibly linked with the 18-year-old worth over £100 million Chelsea linked with Lukaku and Manchester City have already bought top class players and are still looking to spent over £100 million on defenders.

Dare I say that word – the red half have bought well, so yes, it's better as in Everton have bought quickly for the first time in years, but let's not get over the top.

Jay Wood
23 Posted 25/06/2017 at 17:39:59
Chris Williams, re: Arteta and Gravesen playing together.

The Mad Dog left for Real Madrid on 14 January 2005, Arteta arrived on 1st February 2005 for his original loan period with the club in the season we got 4th.

They never played together in the Blue shirt of Everton.

Chris Williams
24 Posted 25/06/2017 at 17:50:35
Cheers Jay, my mistake
Raymond Fox
25 Posted 25/06/2017 at 17:53:16
He would be a good addition to the squad, the more options we have the better.

At 27 years old, he is in his prime.

Mark Frere
26 Posted 25/06/2017 at 18:01:17
Gravesen did come back here on loan 2007-08 season but was mostly warming the bench.
Ray Roche
27 Posted 25/06/2017 at 18:01:57
Jay, weren't they both here when Gravesen came back on loan from Celtic? They both played against Fiorentina didn't they? Gravesen scored from the spot and Arteta from open play.
Paul Goodchild
28 Posted 25/06/2017 at 18:02:47
Sorry Jay but you are wrong and Chris is right.

I was a huge fan of both players and I was very happy when Tommy came back on loan for the 2007-08 season. His first game back was as a sub v Bolton and he provided the corner from which Lescott headed the winner.

Arteta was in the line-up that day. Unfortunately, Gravesen only played 8 games for us that season.

Grant Rorrison
29 Posted 25/06/2017 at 18:04:09
Jay 23. He (Gravesen) came back on loan in 2007. Maybe that's where Chris got his idea about them playing together from? The fact he'd seen them play together. ;)
Mark Frere
30 Posted 25/06/2017 at 18:09:14
Gravesen barely featured, I don't think people can have many fond memories of both playing together.
Chris Williams
31 Posted 25/06/2017 at 18:35:46
No it was just my crap memory again, in the main.

Having said that, the analogy could just as easily be Carsley, Arteta and Cahill, or Arteta, Pienaar and Cahill, I guess. Three different players doing different jobs, able to complement each other.

Hopefully we'll be able to see Schneiderlin, Sigurdsson and Klaassen doing similar in the not too different future.

Jim Knightley
32 Posted 25/06/2017 at 18:40:45
He is a super player – he works hard, has a fantastic delivery and is a great finisher. He also scores in big games – there is no reason to think that he can't play better in a better team.

I'm guessing this bid means Barkley is in the process of being sold, because there is no room for him otherwise.

Terence Tyler
33 Posted 25/06/2017 at 18:56:55
Mirror now saying Swansea have turned down an offer of 㿊 Million from Everton for the player.

Same article stating they will announce Sandro after the U21s are finished.

Mike Berry
34 Posted 25/06/2017 at 19:21:25
One thing is for sure – if he signs, you can bet that we will be adding a target man to the roster to utilise his crossing skills – that is, if Rom does eventually go.
Nigel Munford
35 Posted 25/06/2017 at 19:40:46
Mike (#34), so the Giroud rumours may have some legs then?
Tanvir Akram
36 Posted 25/06/2017 at 19:43:43
Mike Berry. Giroud?
Joe O'Brien
37 Posted 25/06/2017 at 19:50:49
I think if we sign him Rom will have to go with the FFP to think about. Or does Usmanov's £70mill for Finch Farm help balance the books? Sigurdsson would be a class signing without doubt.
Darren Hind
38 Posted 25/06/2017 at 19:50:53
He wasn't just let go from Spurs after a few weeks. They had him for a long time (about two years) which meant they had a proper look at him... and they offloaded him.

I don't think his crosses in open play are anything to write home about. He has been playing with probably the most powerful striker in Europe in the air. Anyone worth their salt would get assists playing with Llorente. Toss the ball in and he will compete like fuck for it.

Barkley is faster, stronger, more skilful and years younger. He has been playing top flight football since he was a teenager. People who want to compare Sigurdsson with Barkley need to start by asking how many top flight games he had played at the age Barkley is now.

We've seen the best of this fella – and his best was not up to scratch as far as Spurs were concerned.

Andrew Presly
39 Posted 25/06/2017 at 19:56:03
Can Evertonians please stop going on about FFP FFS!
Brian Harrison
40 Posted 25/06/2017 at 19:59:35
There is no doubt that we will have to improve our goal total from our front 6. Apart from Lukaku, nobody else got into double figures, and when you compare that to Spurs who had 3 players score 20 or more, then it highlights the massive difference.

Klaassen and Sigurdsson have got goals in them, but Gana and Schneiderlin are not natural goalscorers and it is a lot to ask young Davies to become a 15-goal-a-season man. So a lot will depend on who start as the front 3.

If Mirallas is one of them, then he will have to improve. He always looks like he is going to deliver more than he does, so maybe the best he can expect is a place on the bench.

John Pierce
41 Posted 25/06/2017 at 19:59:38
I hope the Giroud stuff is true. Great technique, boss in the air, a trait sorely lacking at this club for some time.
Mike Berry
42 Posted 25/06/2017 at 20:06:46
I would like him at the club. He looked class in a team flirting with the drop. We have the money -– up the offer.
Gavin Johnson
43 Posted 25/06/2017 at 20:07:47
Give them 㿊M rising to 㿏M with performance-related bonuses. Daylight robbery but it's the market right now.
Jay Harris
44 Posted 25/06/2017 at 20:11:55
I'm more interested in signing Keane and Dembele and getting rid of big head.

Anyone after that is a bonus.

Brian Williams
45 Posted 25/06/2017 at 20:23:58
Those two'd get my vote too, Jay.
Paul Tran
46 Posted 25/06/2017 at 20:25:04
He's better than what we have and the move would be a step up for him. That's the two main criteria sorted.

We're interested in centre-mids because we need to replace Barry (too old for a starter), Besic (injury prone, unproven), McCarthy (injury prone, not good enough), Barkley & Mirallas (not good enough). All the above will make good squad players in a busy season. They'll all need replacing if we're going to progress.

And let's stop this nonsense about only buying players 'committed to the club'. Anyone we buy who performs will be a target for a 'better' club. It's up to Koeman to gel these new players and quickly make enough progress to keep them here. Just as it will be at Arsenal, Spurs, Man Utd, Liverpool and the teams below us. It's a players market now.

Nigel Munford
47 Posted 25/06/2017 at 20:33:37
Tanvir, there's a few articles I picked up on Apple News saying we're looking at Giroud.
Teddy Bertin
48 Posted 25/06/2017 at 20:37:40
The valuation of the player comes down to the value of keeping Swansea in the Premier League.

It's unlikely that Swansea will be able to attract a player of his quality and consistency in the Premier League for 㿇m, his assists and goals have keep them where they are, plus he's under contract, so why should they sell?

He loves the club so he'll never sulk or sit in the stands to force a move. Equally I'm sure he'd love to play regularly for a club like Everton so Swansea and Gylfi hold all the cards.

I'd love to get him and think that he was treated unfairly at Spurs. We all know how good Pienaar was for us and how anonymous he was at Spurs.

There might be some better options out there though for the money.

Tanvir Akram
49 Posted 25/06/2017 at 20:40:34
Nigel, I think he would be great if we played 4-3-3. I do believe, when Rom goes, we will get two strikers plus Sandro.

My only worry is all these new players and if they will gel quickly.

Being in the Europa League always worries me, as it affects a team's league form.

Fintan Spode
50 Posted 25/06/2017 at 20:46:31
I would love to have Sigurdsson play for the Blues, but at what price? The market is still finding it's level, I suspect that a player worth £40m in early summer might be worth £50m by September.
Nigel Munford
51 Posted 25/06/2017 at 20:47:39
Tanvir, agreed, I like Giroud and think he could do a good job up top for us, but we will need players to create as well. As for Europe, this is why we need a larger squad to cope with these demands.
Eddie Dunn
52 Posted 25/06/2017 at 21:13:22
To those who think we will get 㿞 million for Barkley – you must be on cloud cuckoo land! Even in today's inflated market, I can't see anyone paying out that kind of money.

His season tailed-off and there is no sign of a bidding war taking place. If there is interest from Spurs, Mr Levy is not a man to throw money away, and I wonder if Newcastle have the dosh?

If Sigurdsson is worth around 㿊 million, then surely Barkley is only worth a tad more, due to his age and nationality.

Joe O'Brien
53 Posted 25/06/2017 at 21:48:15
Andrew @39... why so? It does have implications doesn't it? Or am I missing something?
Brian Williams
54 Posted 25/06/2017 at 22:07:29
We may have to rely on Sigurdsson making it known to Swansea that he'd like the move (if he does?).
They may view him as "priceless" but he may view the move as his last chance to play in Europe and his last chance to play at the right end of the league.
Time will tell.
Chris James
55 Posted 25/06/2017 at 22:14:49
Jay, I think Dembele is interesting also, but I don't think that has any bearing on whether or not we get a creative midfield.

That's surely more of a Lukaku replacement? (although depends which of the 15 odd Dembele's we're referring to of course - I was thinking Moussa, Celtic striker)

Gavin Johnson
56 Posted 25/06/2017 at 22:40:40
I think that we can sign Dembele, Keane and Sigurdsson.
Nigel Johnson
57 Posted 25/06/2017 at 22:43:24
The more I read about Ross Barkley, the more I think Koeman has got it spot on. For all the skill and ability he has he lack one of the biggest things that separates the good players from the world class players in mental strength. Ross in my opinion lacks this and Koeman knows that.

The biggest proof of this is the reason why he wants to leave Everton. He wants to play more games and get back into the England squad for the World Cup, If this is to be believed. A player with mental strength would welcome new players in the same position because they would simply raise their game and make sure they are on the team sheet every week and not bottle the competition.

Koeman has seen the lack of mental strength throughout the season. This is the same reason why Ross doesn't get into the England team. All the players who play in the same position as Ross in the England team have mental strength and raise their game when playing international football. Sorry, Ross, we need players with skill, ability and mental strength to take us to the next level.

Albert Perkins
58 Posted 25/06/2017 at 22:45:22
It's not a matter of what he is worth on paper, but what he is worth to the team. A player may be quoted at £20M, but might be the missing link that really turns the team into a top 4 side, so pay double to get him.
Damian Wilde
59 Posted 25/06/2017 at 22:45:59
Barkley £50 mill? We'll be lucky to get half that.
Richard Reeves
60 Posted 25/06/2017 at 22:57:15
I'd prefer Barkley to stay, to be honest. He can only get better with the right players around him and his pace is important with a hard working team.

Sigurdsson is 28 in September and not the quickest. Not worth 㿊 million in my opinion.

Rick Pattinson
61 Posted 25/06/2017 at 22:57:45
Over £30 million... no way... great player but wrong end of his career and not worth the price tag.

As for Giroud... I said a while ago, I reckon we should sign him. I would love this to happen as he would be a good replacement for Anelka – sorry... Lukaku.

John Malone
62 Posted 25/06/2017 at 23:01:55
I fancy Sigurdsson – his stats speak for themselves, but I think he is a bit like Rom – a big fish in a small pond!

His set-pieces and good finishing apart, is he a top all-round attacking midfielder??

Why did he go to Spurs and have no impact? Why are none of the Champions League teams steaming straight in for him? I think it's because he struggles to impact the game enough in play with the ball or without it he is a bit lightweight and one dimensional.

In saying the above, I'd definitely be happy if we got him but not sure he is worth breaking the bank for... There has got to be some other top draw midfielders available across Europe for up to 㿊 million!

Andrew Presly
63 Posted 25/06/2017 at 23:45:11
Joe –- no. No implications. Nobody curbs their spending based on this cartel created sham and for Everton and their fans, after all we've had to suffer this last 30 years, to make any passing reference to a device designed to prevent our return to the top table kills me. Ignore it.

We haven't spent much money anyway yet. Gearing up for another 7th as it stands.

Drew Shortis
64 Posted 25/06/2017 at 23:58:06
Perhaps this push to get quality players in early is in part to convince Lukaku and Barkley we are serious about competing on all fronts this season.

If we get in Pickford, a centre-back, Sigurdsson, Klaasen and Sandro that will be a huge sign that we mean business. If Lukaku still wants off we will have the cash to ensure that Dembele or similar come in right away to replace him.

Right now I can't see where a sufficient bid for Barkley is coming from. For once I'm not concerned about selling our prize asset as I'm confident we'll come out the other end with a bigger and better squad. I can't remember a time I felt this confident about the future!

Jamie Sweet
65 Posted 26/06/2017 at 00:43:51
I think Sigurdsson is just the type of player we need. Some people are saying it's too much to pay for someone his age, but we can't just fill our squad with U21 players. Premier League experience is hugely valuable, and his recent record in the competition is pretty impressive:

2016-17 = 9 goals, 13 assists
2015-16 = 11 goals, 4 assists
2014-15 = 7 goals, 10 assists

(All for a dog-shit team).

He also doesn't hide in the big games. This season, he scored against Chelsea, Man City, Arsenal, Man Utd and Everton. He also showed he can punish rubbish defences by scoring against Liverpool at Anfield.

My friend, who is a Swansea fan, says he wouldn't sell him for any money, as he knows that they wouldn't be able to attract another player of his calibre again for all the money in the world.

David Currie
66 Posted 26/06/2017 at 02:00:13
Agree with Darren (#38), we need a player who can dribble past players and create.

My mate, who is a Spurs fan, said Siggy was shite for them and he was playing with better players around him than at Swansea. I think he is okay but lacks mobility and I would rather keep Barkley.

Jamie Sweet
67 Posted 26/06/2017 at 03:10:04
By the way, I reckon Giroud would be a revelation under Koeman. Twice the player Graziano Pellè is, he'd be lethal playing in a system which suited his style. Koeman likes his big target men, and I can't think of many better.

I've only seen mutterings of this in the most unreliable of places though, and would be utterly shocked if it ever happened.

James Watts
68 Posted 26/06/2017 at 05:15:36
Echo reporting that no bid was made. As you were, nothing to see here.
Alan J Thompson
69 Posted 26/06/2017 at 05:50:34
Let's wait and see if Chelsea sign the two defenders from Juventus and if they do then ask for Cahill as part of the Lukaku deal. Then offer Swansea Williams as part of the Sigurdsson deal.

This sort of a deal is a walk in the park for Bill.

Anthony Hawkins
70 Posted 26/06/2017 at 07:03:35
I can't believe people want Cahill. He's not that great in my view. Better than Williams, maybe, but Everton need better if they're to push on.
Keith Johnson
71 Posted 26/06/2017 at 07:29:09
We have been linked with so many defenders, midfielders and strikers but still no firm action. We have now got funds – let's start moving as July is coming fast; don't we have Europa League qualifying matches...?
Damian Wilde
72 Posted 26/06/2017 at 07:46:17
Jamie, his stats look good, sign him up, £35 million would be okay.

Giroud – no thanks. Not quite good enough overall.

Trevor Peers
73 Posted 26/06/2017 at 08:19:03
I don't think Sigurdsson is interested in a move to the blues. We're going to find it very difficult to attract quality players.

Giroud is off to Lyon, and Cahill wouldn't be interested in Everton either. Young European players are our best option.

Ian Jones
74 Posted 26/06/2017 at 08:33:41
Darren @ 38.

Do you think if Sigurdsson was to come in, we should go after Llorente as well?

Terry Smith
75 Posted 26/06/2017 at 08:40:48
Can't blame Swansea for wanting more... We do it!!
I for one would go out to get him. He would be a great addition to the squad. He has Premier League experience. He is a leader. He doesn't go hiding in big games. Along with scoring & assisting – it's a no-brainer for me.
Nitesh Kanchan
76 Posted 26/06/2017 at 11:12:51
If Dembele plays for Celtic in the 2nd round of the Champions League qualifying, can he then play for us in Europe if we sign him?
Tony J Williams
77 Posted 26/06/2017 at 12:40:39
When was the last time we bought someone on the cheap (release clauses aside)?

It's doesn't happen anymore.

John Newman
78 Posted 26/06/2017 at 13:21:14
Totally agree with the comments made by Christopher Wallace on this. Sigurdsson's main attributes being skill-based, a very intelligent player who can and often does change matches with his decision making and touches of quality. He often show's he is capable of smashing them in from distance and his set-piece taking in my view is exceptional – well worth £30-40 million in this day and age.

As for talk about the FFP and all that I actually don't care anymore if our club acts brutaly in the interests of its fans everyone else does. Snapping up talent from other clubs to improve us is what we should be doing. Also, the more ruthless we become in the way we sign players, I love it – we now have our backbone, real financial muscle; Everton are back .

Richard Lyons
79 Posted 26/06/2017 at 13:25:16
BBC reporting that Leicester are in for him now... Get him in quick!
Franny Porter
80 Posted 26/06/2017 at 13:40:12
I don't know why people are bothered about the money, we aren't playing Football Manager here. Every Premier League team is loaded now, plus, we have players who will be departing who will rake in a few quid.

Just effing pay what they want and get the squad sorted ASAP.

Jim Knightley
81 Posted 26/06/2017 at 13:51:18
Gueye, I suppose, Tony. And Deulofeu was cheap too, and then whenever Stones came in. There are players out there but very rarely from the Premier League.

If we can't get Sigurdsson, I'd like Lanzini. He is not as destructive as Sigurdsson but a very talented and tidy player who links midfield and attack very well. He would represent the return of the kind of creative type we've not had since the prime of Pienaar and Arteta

Tom Bowers
82 Posted 26/06/2017 at 14:03:51
Little clubs like Swansea will milk this for all it's worth and Leicester are welcome to him at £40 Million. At 28, he is not worth that amount.
Derek Thomas
83 Posted 26/06/2017 at 14:05:07
'Priceless' say Swansea = More cash please.
Mike Gaynes
84 Posted 26/06/2017 at 14:07:07
Tony J (#74)... just one year ago, Gueye was an absolute steal for £7M.
Kim Vivian
85 Posted 26/06/2017 at 14:31:43
Where is this Giroud stuff coming from?

It sounds like it's just TWeb talk to me – or has someone sniffed something?

Peter Warren
86 Posted 26/06/2017 at 14:35:35
It's not about whether Sigurdson or Barkley is better – it's about who's better for the team. For example, Bainaar was terrific but Pienaar on his own at Spurs was poor.

Also, whether Barkely is worth 㿞m or not, it is too simplistic to say, "So, if we want Sigurdsson, he must be worth more". Barkley's potential – both as a player and marketing pawn, is vast. Sigurdsson – you're not buying any added potential value – he is what he is now at 28 years old or whatever he is.

Jay Wood
87 Posted 26/06/2017 at 14:36:28
I forgot completely Mad Dog's return to the club! So he and Arteta DID play together in the Blue of Everton, but sadly, not with great effect.

I speak as one who was made up at his return and recall the corner he took from which Lescott scored in the dying minutes to win us the game at Bolton.

I was so enthused, I speculated at the time if he could be that season's 'Paul Power' signing – a seasoned old pro who could inspire the team to silverware.

Sadly, that wee Bolton cameo was pretty much all we got from Tommy and – as others mention – he barely featured again and wasn't retained for the following season.

Jay Wood
88 Posted 26/06/2017 at 14:42:06
Jim @ 78 and Mike @ 81.

Tony @ 75 did specify "When was the last time we bought someone on the cheap (release clauses aside)?

Gueye was available at the price he was due to a release clause. The Deulofeu deal had (and still has) a number of clauses attached. Stones was a teenager when we signed him, so not a 'known' high-priced talent.

Tony's observation looks legitimate to me.

Fran Mitchell
89 Posted 26/06/2017 at 14:49:07
Good player, although not sure. If we get him, I'll be pleased as he will improve us, but If we miss out I won't be that bothered.

When you see Liverpool being quoted £70 million for Keira after one season shows that signing a box-to-box/creative/attacking midfielder is nothing cheap but alternatively, when you see Keita was £10 million Just one season Ago, maybe we should Focus on finding that player (unproven, Smaller league).

Another I would like us to go for is Traore from Chelsea. Available at 16 million apparently, which is buttons in today's market.

Jay Harris
90 Posted 26/06/2017 at 15:12:06
There is no doubt he is a good player and proven in the Premier League.

However, you have to ask: What other options are there at £40m? Personally, I would sooner get Dembele and/or Giroud and play them alongside Sandro.

Jim Knightley
91 Posted 26/06/2017 at 15:24:21
True – Gueye had a release clause. But, that said, Stones was certainly underpriced – he was not a complete unknown and 19/20-year-olds with big potential often go for much more.

Deulofeu was a good buy too, even with a buy-back clause, which is far more common in Spain than it is here.

Deals for the likes of Kante, Van Djik, Payet, Wanyama, Alli etc show that there are still some good deals to be had, but the reality is that they are few and far between in this market. Football has gone crazy, and I think we will have to look to emerging talents from abroad if we are to find deals. Unfortunately, £30mil for Sigurdsson is fair in this market.

Hopefully we will confirm Sandro – that will certainly go down as an under-priced buy, release clause or not. And hopefully those who are going to leave, will leave soon. Our spending has been extremely impressive so far, but late departures in this window still have the potential to derail our season.

Andrew Clare
92 Posted 26/06/2017 at 15:33:34
I'd rather go for Brozovic of Inter. I reckon we could get him for 㿀 million. He's an all action midfielder who creates, scores, tackles and closes down.

I'm not convinced by Sigurdsson.

Andrew Clare
93 Posted 26/06/2017 at 15:43:11
I'd rather go for Brozovic of Inter. I reckon we could him for 㿀 million. He's an all action midfielder who creates, scores, tackles and closes down.

I'm not convinced by Sigurdsson.

Michael Kenrick
94 Posted 26/06/2017 at 16:10:47
I can fully understand Everton targeting recognized talent like Pickford, Klaassen and Sandro... but as you say, Jim: "I think we will have to look to emerging talents from abroad if we are to find deals." Wasn't this the prime expectation that Steve Walsh would bring to the table?

Perhaps I'm being unfair as he has secured Nathanangelo Markelo... more to come, perhaps?

Mike Gaynes
95 Posted 26/06/2017 at 16:17:22
Andrew, might be more... Football Italia have both Man Utd and Zenit in for him as well.
Dermot Byrne
96 Posted 26/06/2017 at 16:21:18
Michael: A gut feeling based on little evidence tells me Walsh will deliver just that in next few weeks.
Dave Wilson
97 Posted 26/06/2017 at 16:48:34
Andrew (#93) and Mike (#95),

Brozovic? Now your talking guys.

Mike may be more on the money in terms of valuation, but I if we are considering paying north of 㿇m for Sigurdsson, I'd love us to try to tempt Inter with a similar offer.

David McMullen
98 Posted 26/06/2017 at 17:03:53
We've been there before with Swansea. Hope we get him and continue to add the likes of Dembele and even Giroud as he would be a great target man. Giroud or Niasse? Haha. Also quoting the £50m for Barkley don't forget Barkley is younger.
David Barks
99 Posted 26/06/2017 at 17:43:59
Why would we want a player who seems perfectly content to stay at a shite club like Swansea, battling relegation? That is exactly the type of player I have zero interest in adding. We have plenty of that type already.

If we are supposed to now have ambition, why in the hell would we want to add a player that doesn't seem to have any ambition other than collecting his pay at a club with zero chances of winning anything, only hoping to survive in the Premier League for another season?

Brian Williams
100 Posted 26/06/2017 at 17:59:26
David. Teams above us that have bought players from us could say something "similar", could they not?

Obviously NOT battling relegation but lacking ambition, zero chances of winning anything, happy to finish mid table blah blah blah.

William Cartwright
101 Posted 26/06/2017 at 18:20:48
Jim (#91); I tend to disagree with the view that high quality bargains are few and far between? Every season there is a surprise or two where a youngster (or more) break into the Premier League which is becoming all too common. This year, I expect several 'bargains' to make good impressions:-

Sandro (hopefully with us),
Will Hughes (now at Watford),
Ryan Gauld (went to Portugal some years ago),
Dembelle (Celtic's version), Ryan, Brighton's new goalie, and so on.

The trick seems to be to have well laced confidence in the new talent. I expect our U23s will step up (Kenny, Calvert-Lewin) or go on loan (Dowell), and there are a host of young players, and some not so young – such as Cook at Bournemouth, who will all be capable of bringing something to the table.

The player I would love Everton to sign this season would definitely be Sessegon from Fulham but I understand he wants to stay in London.

David Barks
102 Posted 26/06/2017 at 18:29:15
Brian,

Yes, exactly. Which is why I have no problem if players leave us to go to one of those clubs, when their desire is to compete for trophies and at the highest levels. I want Everton to show that same ambition and be one of those clubs.

In order to do so, we should be acting just like them, getting only the best players from clubs below us that want to compete at the top. A player that is content to just stay at Swansea is not someone I'm interested in.

Mark Morrissey
103 Posted 26/06/2017 at 21:22:59
I'll be hacked off if Leicester end up with both Maguire and Sigurdsson because they were both players I wanted to see sign for us. Both grafters with a good touch.
Jim Knightley
104 Posted 27/06/2017 at 03:24:46
Will – I think your examples, of which there aren't many, prove my point rather than disprove it. I related the Sandro example, and Dembele is clearly a good player, but I'm not sold on the others.

Hughes is a decent player, but I think he will be a lower Premier League team player at best. I don't see ٦mil (rumoured) as that much of a bargain for him - we managed less than that for Gueye, who had proved himself at the top level in France and England. I think 90% of buys do not turn out to be high quality bargains.

And I expect that Walsh will more aggressively target these lesser known talents in July and August, Michael (at least I hope he does). It seems like there is a brief to get our senior business done early – I expect that we will then change tack. I'm hopeful that another couple of punts, at the very least, can join Markelo.

Ray Smith
105 Posted 02/07/2017 at 12:36:50
Mesa flying in for Swansea medical.

Does this pave the way for a Siguradsson departure?

Kunal Desai
106 Posted 02/07/2017 at 12:48:41
I think the Sigurdsson deal will happen but it might be done after the season is underway and closer to the transfer deadline.
Matthew Collins
107 Posted 02/07/2017 at 22:26:11
I've shockingly been reading ToffeeWeb for years and years without interacting but just now I read a comment about Sigurdsson hopefully joining us, hot on the heels of Sandro and my need to hear the opinions of others made me sign up.

I was mad keen to buy Sigurdsson this summer, but now Klaassen has joined I wonder if we should have other priorities; I don't see them being on the pitch at the same time.

I like what little I've seen of Klaassen and I like Sigurdsson even more, but is it a good plan to spend big money on two fairly similar players in the same summer? Or am I wrong to liken them to each other? Or is money now an abstract concept as irrelevant to a Premier League football club as a hypothetical hamster made out of courgettes?


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