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Swansea reject big money Everton bid for Sigurdsson
Everton have had an offer of between £27 and £30m turned down by Swansea City for Gylfi Sigurdsson according to reports.
ESPN FC claim that "sources close to the Welsh club" have told the media outlet that the Swans have rejected a £27m bid for their Icelandic Talisman.
The Mirror, meanwhile, report that the offer was £30m but was met with the same response from Swansea who view him as "priceless".
Sigurdsson was reported to have made it known earlier this year that he fancied playing for a bigger club again and the prospect of Europa League football at Everton could be attractive to him.
At the age of 28, a move to Merseyside might represent Sigurdsson's last big move but whether or not Everton are prepared to up their offer into club-record territory to land him remains to be seen.
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2 Posted 25/06/2017 at 14:41:41
I would prefer Brozovic from Inter. Also, if Barkley does not go, then I doubt he will be bought. However, the transfer market is ridiculous at the moment!
3 Posted 25/06/2017 at 14:51:44
4 Posted 25/06/2017 at 14:54:27
He's also very tidy on the ball and an excellent passer. He's a top pro, and a leader on the pitch.
Sign him up, please.
5 Posted 25/06/2017 at 14:57:28
6 Posted 25/06/2017 at 15:08:54
Yes, half his goals come from free kicks and pens, but he is also the best crosser in the Prem (barring perhaps De Bruyne), which is something we've been desperately needing for two years now. And he simply never makes a mistake on the ball... head and shoulders above Barkley in his decision-making.
Definitely bring him in.
7 Posted 25/06/2017 at 15:10:06
8 Posted 25/06/2017 at 15:19:31
9 Posted 25/06/2017 at 15:24:53
We are better looking at these players as part of a jigsaw and not as isolated units. Like any of our targets, we must hope that his strengths are reinforced and his weaknesses diminished by joining us.
I expect that he will come to us after some noise first, so that Swansea don't look as though they've just cashed in.
10 Posted 25/06/2017 at 15:28:01
11 Posted 25/06/2017 at 16:44:25
I just think there's better options out there for the money.
12 Posted 25/06/2017 at 16:44:55
Relatedly I would've been a little interested in Nolito, who looked great against us a few seasons ago admittedly he didn't light fires at Man City but then a lot of players have disappeared there.
Anyway, get Siggy and Sandro done and on to a top quality front-line striker to replace Rom.
13 Posted 25/06/2017 at 16:51:37
Ross only has one year remaining on his contract, whereas Siggy extended his contract from 2020,. Seems a fare amount if we are expecting close to 㿞 million for Barkley.
14 Posted 25/06/2017 at 16:54:46
Seems to me it would be hard to fit Schneiderlin, Klaassen and Sigurdsson into Ron's preferred line up with defensive midfielders and wideboys or two strikers.
15 Posted 25/06/2017 at 17:03:33
Allowing for departures, injuries and loss of form then we should bring him in. He with Klaassen will add some intelligence and maturity to the team who won't go missing on big occasions.
COYB
16 Posted 25/06/2017 at 17:05:38
We often played with a midfield with Arteta, Cahill and Gravesen in. It shouldn't be a problem to accommodate them. They will probably do different jobs.
17 Posted 25/06/2017 at 17:16:17
18 Posted 25/06/2017 at 17:22:56
Personally, I'm pleased to hear that we have bid for him but to suggest we don't need him??? Baffled!
19 Posted 25/06/2017 at 17:29:01
My main point though is the three players mentioned would be able to play together.
20 Posted 25/06/2017 at 17:30:36
I'd prefer someone capable of dribbling past someone and then finding the cute through-ball, more of a Coutinho, Eriksen, Mahrez type.
21 Posted 25/06/2017 at 17:37:05
22 Posted 25/06/2017 at 17:39:11
I think Everton need to say if no-one offer £100 million by a set time then he is not for sell. But I guess a deal is already agreed and just like Sandro an announcement will be made in July.
It will also be very interesting to see if Everton go with two wingers and an out and out Forward or if Everton go with a big forward and two other front men who can play just behind.
The only player who has got me thinking great is Pickford the other players we have been linked with are okay but not special. Manchester Utd possible linked with Harry Kane Arsenal possibly linked with the 18-year-old worth over £100 million Chelsea linked with Lukaku and Manchester City have already bought top class players and are still looking to spent over £100 million on defenders.
Dare I say that word the red half have bought well, so yes, it's better as in Everton have bought quickly for the first time in years, but let's not get over the top.
23 Posted 25/06/2017 at 17:39:59
The Mad Dog left for Real Madrid on 14 January 2005, Arteta arrived on 1st February 2005 for his original loan period with the club in the season we got 4th.
They never played together in the Blue shirt of Everton.
24 Posted 25/06/2017 at 17:50:35
25 Posted 25/06/2017 at 17:53:16
At 27 years old, he is in his prime.
26 Posted 25/06/2017 at 18:01:17
27 Posted 25/06/2017 at 18:01:57
28 Posted 25/06/2017 at 18:02:47
I was a huge fan of both players and I was very happy when Tommy came back on loan for the 2007-08 season. His first game back was as a sub v Bolton and he provided the corner from which Lescott headed the winner.
Arteta was in the line-up that day. Unfortunately, Gravesen only played 8 games for us that season.
29 Posted 25/06/2017 at 18:04:09
30 Posted 25/06/2017 at 18:09:14
31 Posted 25/06/2017 at 18:35:46
Having said that, the analogy could just as easily be Carsley, Arteta and Cahill, or Arteta, Pienaar and Cahill, I guess. Three different players doing different jobs, able to complement each other.
Hopefully we'll be able to see Schneiderlin, Sigurdsson and Klaassen doing similar in the not too different future.
32 Posted 25/06/2017 at 18:40:45
I'm guessing this bid means Barkley is in the process of being sold, because there is no room for him otherwise.
33 Posted 25/06/2017 at 18:56:55
Same article stating they will announce Sandro after the U21s are finished.
34 Posted 25/06/2017 at 19:21:25
35 Posted 25/06/2017 at 19:40:46
36 Posted 25/06/2017 at 19:43:43
37 Posted 25/06/2017 at 19:50:49
38 Posted 25/06/2017 at 19:50:53
I don't think his crosses in open play are anything to write home about. He has been playing with probably the most powerful striker in Europe in the air. Anyone worth their salt would get assists playing with Llorente. Toss the ball in and he will compete like fuck for it.
Barkley is faster, stronger, more skilful and years younger. He has been playing top flight football since he was a teenager. People who want to compare Sigurdsson with Barkley need to start by asking how many top flight games he had played at the age Barkley is now.
We've seen the best of this fella and his best was not up to scratch as far as Spurs were concerned.
39 Posted 25/06/2017 at 19:56:03
40 Posted 25/06/2017 at 19:59:35
Klaassen and Sigurdsson have got goals in them, but Gana and Schneiderlin are not natural goalscorers and it is a lot to ask young Davies to become a 15-goal-a-season man. So a lot will depend on who start as the front 3.
If Mirallas is one of them, then he will have to improve. He always looks like he is going to deliver more than he does, so maybe the best he can expect is a place on the bench.
41 Posted 25/06/2017 at 19:59:38
42 Posted 25/06/2017 at 20:06:46
43 Posted 25/06/2017 at 20:07:47
44 Posted 25/06/2017 at 20:11:55
Anyone after that is a bonus.
45 Posted 25/06/2017 at 20:23:58
46 Posted 25/06/2017 at 20:25:04
We're interested in centre-mids because we need to replace Barry (too old for a starter), Besic (injury prone, unproven), McCarthy (injury prone, not good enough), Barkley & Mirallas (not good enough). All the above will make good squad players in a busy season. They'll all need replacing if we're going to progress.
And let's stop this nonsense about only buying players 'committed to the club'. Anyone we buy who performs will be a target for a 'better' club. It's up to Koeman to gel these new players and quickly make enough progress to keep them here. Just as it will be at Arsenal, Spurs, Man Utd, Liverpool and the teams below us. It's a players market now.
47 Posted 25/06/2017 at 20:33:37
48 Posted 25/06/2017 at 20:37:40
It's unlikely that Swansea will be able to attract a player of his quality and consistency in the Premier League for 㿇m, his assists and goals have keep them where they are, plus he's under contract, so why should they sell?
He loves the club so he'll never sulk or sit in the stands to force a move. Equally I'm sure he'd love to play regularly for a club like Everton so Swansea and Gylfi hold all the cards.
I'd love to get him and think that he was treated unfairly at Spurs. We all know how good Pienaar was for us and how anonymous he was at Spurs.
There might be some better options out there though for the money.
49 Posted 25/06/2017 at 20:40:34
My only worry is all these new players and if they will gel quickly.
Being in the Europa League always worries me, as it affects a team's league form.
50 Posted 25/06/2017 at 20:46:31
51 Posted 25/06/2017 at 20:47:39
52 Posted 25/06/2017 at 21:13:22
His season tailed-off and there is no sign of a bidding war taking place. If there is interest from Spurs, Mr Levy is not a man to throw money away, and I wonder if Newcastle have the dosh?
If Sigurdsson is worth around 㿊 million, then surely Barkley is only worth a tad more, due to his age and nationality.
53 Posted 25/06/2017 at 21:48:15
54 Posted 25/06/2017 at 22:07:29
They may view him as "priceless" but he may view the move as his last chance to play in Europe and his last chance to play at the right end of the league.
Time will tell.
55 Posted 25/06/2017 at 22:14:49
That's surely more of a Lukaku replacement? (although depends which of the 15 odd Dembele's we're referring to of course - I was thinking Moussa, Celtic striker)
56 Posted 25/06/2017 at 22:40:40
57 Posted 25/06/2017 at 22:43:24
The biggest proof of this is the reason why he wants to leave Everton. He wants to play more games and get back into the England squad for the World Cup, If this is to be believed. A player with mental strength would welcome new players in the same position because they would simply raise their game and make sure they are on the team sheet every week and not bottle the competition.
Koeman has seen the lack of mental strength throughout the season. This is the same reason why Ross doesn't get into the England team. All the players who play in the same position as Ross in the England team have mental strength and raise their game when playing international football. Sorry, Ross, we need players with skill, ability and mental strength to take us to the next level.
58 Posted 25/06/2017 at 22:45:22
59 Posted 25/06/2017 at 22:45:59
60 Posted 25/06/2017 at 22:57:15
Sigurdsson is 28 in September and not the quickest. Not worth 㿊 million in my opinion.
61 Posted 25/06/2017 at 22:57:45
As for Giroud... I said a while ago, I reckon we should sign him. I would love this to happen as he would be a good replacement for Anelka sorry... Lukaku.
62 Posted 25/06/2017 at 23:01:55
His set-pieces and good finishing apart, is he a top all-round attacking midfielder??
Why did he go to Spurs and have no impact? Why are none of the Champions League teams steaming straight in for him? I think it's because he struggles to impact the game enough in play with the ball or without it he is a bit lightweight and one dimensional.
In saying the above, I'd definitely be happy if we got him but not sure he is worth breaking the bank for... There has got to be some other top draw midfielders available across Europe for up to 㿊 million!
63 Posted 25/06/2017 at 23:45:11
We haven't spent much money anyway yet. Gearing up for another 7th as it stands.
64 Posted 25/06/2017 at 23:58:06
If we get in Pickford, a centre-back, Sigurdsson, Klaasen and Sandro that will be a huge sign that we mean business. If Lukaku still wants off we will have the cash to ensure that Dembele or similar come in right away to replace him.
Right now I can't see where a sufficient bid for Barkley is coming from. For once I'm not concerned about selling our prize asset as I'm confident we'll come out the other end with a bigger and better squad. I can't remember a time I felt this confident about the future!
65 Posted 26/06/2017 at 00:43:51
2016-17 = 9 goals, 13 assists
2015-16 = 11 goals, 4 assists
2014-15 = 7 goals, 10 assists
(All for a dog-shit team).
He also doesn't hide in the big games. This season, he scored against Chelsea, Man City, Arsenal, Man Utd and Everton. He also showed he can punish rubbish defences by scoring against Liverpool at Anfield.
My friend, who is a Swansea fan, says he wouldn't sell him for any money, as he knows that they wouldn't be able to attract another player of his calibre again for all the money in the world.
66 Posted 26/06/2017 at 02:00:13
My mate, who is a Spurs fan, said Siggy was shite for them and he was playing with better players around him than at Swansea. I think he is okay but lacks mobility and I would rather keep Barkley.
67 Posted 26/06/2017 at 03:10:04
I've only seen mutterings of this in the most unreliable of places though, and would be utterly shocked if it ever happened.
68 Posted 26/06/2017 at 05:15:36
69 Posted 26/06/2017 at 05:50:34
This sort of a deal is a walk in the park for Bill.
70 Posted 26/06/2017 at 07:03:35
71 Posted 26/06/2017 at 07:29:09
72 Posted 26/06/2017 at 07:46:17
Giroud no thanks. Not quite good enough overall.
73 Posted 26/06/2017 at 08:19:03
Giroud is off to Lyon, and Cahill wouldn't be interested in Everton either. Young European players are our best option.
74 Posted 26/06/2017 at 08:33:41
Do you think if Sigurdsson was to come in, we should go after Llorente as well?
75 Posted 26/06/2017 at 08:40:48
I for one would go out to get him. He would be a great addition to the squad. He has Premier League experience. He is a leader. He doesn't go hiding in big games. Along with scoring & assisting it's a no-brainer for me.
76 Posted 26/06/2017 at 11:12:51
77 Posted 26/06/2017 at 12:40:39
It's doesn't happen anymore.
78 Posted 26/06/2017 at 13:21:14
As for talk about the FFP and all that I actually don't care anymore if our club acts brutaly in the interests of its fans everyone else does. Snapping up talent from other clubs to improve us is what we should be doing. Also, the more ruthless we become in the way we sign players, I love it we now have our backbone, real financial muscle; Everton are back .
79 Posted 26/06/2017 at 13:25:16
80 Posted 26/06/2017 at 13:40:12
Just effing pay what they want and get the squad sorted ASAP.
81 Posted 26/06/2017 at 13:51:18
If we can't get Sigurdsson, I'd like Lanzini. He is not as destructive as Sigurdsson but a very talented and tidy player who links midfield and attack very well. He would represent the return of the kind of creative type we've not had since the prime of Pienaar and Arteta
82 Posted 26/06/2017 at 14:03:51
83 Posted 26/06/2017 at 14:05:07
84 Posted 26/06/2017 at 14:07:07
85 Posted 26/06/2017 at 14:31:43
It sounds like it's just TWeb talk to me or has someone sniffed something?
86 Posted 26/06/2017 at 14:35:35
Also, whether Barkely is worth 㿞m or not, it is too simplistic to say, "So, if we want Sigurdsson, he must be worth more". Barkley's potential both as a player and marketing pawn, is vast. Sigurdsson you're not buying any added potential value he is what he is now at 28 years old or whatever he is.
87 Posted 26/06/2017 at 14:36:28
I speak as one who was made up at his return and recall the corner he took from which Lescott scored in the dying minutes to win us the game at Bolton.
I was so enthused, I speculated at the time if he could be that season's 'Paul Power' signing a seasoned old pro who could inspire the team to silverware.
Sadly, that wee Bolton cameo was pretty much all we got from Tommy and as others mention he barely featured again and wasn't retained for the following season.
88 Posted 26/06/2017 at 14:42:06
Tony @ 75 did specify "When was the last time we bought someone on the cheap (release clauses aside)?
Gueye was available at the price he was due to a release clause. The Deulofeu deal had (and still has) a number of clauses attached. Stones was a teenager when we signed him, so not a 'known' high-priced talent.
Tony's observation looks legitimate to me.
89 Posted 26/06/2017 at 14:49:07
When you see Liverpool being quoted £70 million for Keira after one season shows that signing a box-to-box/creative/attacking midfielder is nothing cheap but alternatively, when you see Keita was £10 million Just one season Ago, maybe we should Focus on finding that player (unproven, Smaller league).
Another I would like us to go for is Traore from Chelsea. Available at 16 million apparently, which is buttons in today's market.
90 Posted 26/06/2017 at 15:12:06
However, you have to ask: What other options are there at £40m? Personally, I would sooner get Dembele and/or Giroud and play them alongside Sandro.
91 Posted 26/06/2017 at 15:24:21
Deulofeu was a good buy too, even with a buy-back clause, which is far more common in Spain than it is here.
Deals for the likes of Kante, Van Djik, Payet, Wanyama, Alli etc show that there are still some good deals to be had, but the reality is that they are few and far between in this market. Football has gone crazy, and I think we will have to look to emerging talents from abroad if we are to find deals. Unfortunately, £30mil for Sigurdsson is fair in this market.
Hopefully we will confirm Sandro that will certainly go down as an under-priced buy, release clause or not. And hopefully those who are going to leave, will leave soon. Our spending has been extremely impressive so far, but late departures in this window still have the potential to derail our season.
92 Posted 26/06/2017 at 15:33:34
I'm not convinced by Sigurdsson.
93 Posted 26/06/2017 at 15:43:11
I'm not convinced by Sigurdsson.
94 Posted 26/06/2017 at 16:10:47
Perhaps I'm being unfair as he has secured Nathanangelo Markelo... more to come, perhaps?
95 Posted 26/06/2017 at 16:17:22
96 Posted 26/06/2017 at 16:21:18
97 Posted 26/06/2017 at 16:48:34
Brozovic? Now your talking guys.
Mike may be more on the money in terms of valuation, but I if we are considering paying north of 㿇m for Sigurdsson, I'd love us to try to tempt Inter with a similar offer.
98 Posted 26/06/2017 at 17:03:53
99 Posted 26/06/2017 at 17:43:59
If we are supposed to now have ambition, why in the hell would we want to add a player that doesn't seem to have any ambition other than collecting his pay at a club with zero chances of winning anything, only hoping to survive in the Premier League for another season?
100 Posted 26/06/2017 at 17:59:26
Obviously NOT battling relegation but lacking ambition, zero chances of winning anything, happy to finish mid table blah blah blah.
101 Posted 26/06/2017 at 18:20:48
Sandro (hopefully with us),
Will Hughes (now at Watford),
Ryan Gauld (went to Portugal some years ago),
Dembelle (Celtic's version), Ryan, Brighton's new goalie, and so on.
The trick seems to be to have well laced confidence in the new talent. I expect our U23s will step up (Kenny, Calvert-Lewin) or go on loan (Dowell), and there are a host of young players, and some not so young – such as Cook at Bournemouth, who will all be capable of bringing something to the table.
The player I would love Everton to sign this season would definitely be Sessegon from Fulham but I understand he wants to stay in London.
102 Posted 26/06/2017 at 18:29:15
Yes, exactly. Which is why I have no problem if players leave us to go to one of those clubs, when their desire is to compete for trophies and at the highest levels. I want Everton to show that same ambition and be one of those clubs.
In order to do so, we should be acting just like them, getting only the best players from clubs below us that want to compete at the top. A player that is content to just stay at Swansea is not someone I'm interested in.
103 Posted 26/06/2017 at 21:22:59
104 Posted 27/06/2017 at 03:24:46
Hughes is a decent player, but I think he will be a lower Premier League team player at best. I don't see ٦mil (rumoured) as that much of a bargain for him - we managed less than that for Gueye, who had proved himself at the top level in France and England. I think 90% of buys do not turn out to be high quality bargains.
And I expect that Walsh will more aggressively target these lesser known talents in July and August, Michael (at least I hope he does). It seems like there is a brief to get our senior business done early I expect that we will then change tack. I'm hopeful that another couple of punts, at the very least, can join Markelo.
105 Posted 02/07/2017 at 12:36:50
Does this pave the way for a Siguradsson departure?
106 Posted 02/07/2017 at 12:48:41
107 Posted 02/07/2017 at 22:26:11
I was mad keen to buy Sigurdsson this summer, but now Klaassen has joined I wonder if we should have other priorities; I don't see them being on the pitch at the same time.
I like what little I've seen of Klaassen and I like Sigurdsson even more, but is it a good plan to spend big money on two fairly similar players in the same summer? Or am I wrong to liken them to each other? Or is money now an abstract concept as irrelevant to a Premier League football club as a hypothetical hamster made out of courgettes?
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1 Posted 25/06/2017 at 14:38:13