Stoke line up Pennington deal

That sounds like a good move for Matthew, but I suspect this will be his last loan move, by that I expect he will dither have proven he's good enough to be part of the first team squad, or be sold altogether.

From what I have seen of him he is Championship standard at best, but I hope maybe he proves me wrong this year, as I'm sure Stoke will be trying to get back into the Prem, as their reduction in revenues will be hitting hard. Mind you the Coates owners will be able shoulder such losses.

Agree with you Derek - though perhaps selling him for £2/3 mil with a bonus should they come up is the way to go.

As with all who come through the Academy I'll support him, but given he's 24 it's time for him to find a settled home for a 4 year contract.

Pennington had, by all accounts, a great season in a nightmare situation at Ipswich -- one of the local papers named him their POTS -- but season-ending ankle surgery probably eliminated any chance he might have had to impress Silva this summer.

Stoke will be a very competitive situation for the young man -- they already have Shawcross, Batth and Martins Indi, who had to move to LB at the end of the season to get playing time. So Pennington had better tie his shoes real tight and get ready for a battle.

Don't think he's prem standard but Duffy seems to be doing ok and I thought the same of him.

Prob best to shift him on to give him a perm place elsewhere as I can't see him ever being good enough for us.

Hi ho Silva, the loan arranger.

I think it’s down to Brands, Pat, and it looks like he’s got a lot of work on his plate? Give him time though, he’s only been here twelve months, and he came into a very shambolic regime.

Time for a permanent transfer I'd suggest, we should ask for £5m, hes young and hes English, £5m is chicken feed nowadays.

If we can get 4-5M, on a move then it’s good business.

I’m sure he’s improved the last couple of seasons, but I don’t rate him enough to be The calibrate if EFC first team squad.

Let’s hope MB, has his plan launched for this window, as the new season will soon come around.

Pat K, that certainly 'Triggered' a laugh, Jay Silvaheels (Tonto) would have to if he wasn't sleeping in Tombstone. :-)

He'll be in demand from Championship clubs. I have misgivings that he's good enough for us. He's a bit one paced and isn't the tallest for a Silva esque CB. As others state, he's worth about £4m as a young English CB with Championship experience. If he's loaned again we must be getting some kind of loan fee, opposed to a Cuco Martina, Ashley Williams type loan just to get the wages off the books.

At 24 I don't see the point in a further loan. Long enough has elapsed to know if he either has what is required of a Premier League player or if we should ask for a small transfer fee and a percentage of any further transfer business. This just seems to be further fiddling and some sort of permanent decision needs to be made.

Agreed that I think we should look to sell rather than loan.

I think most agree on this, that a loan move isn't really beneficial for him or us.

If we don't fancy him in the first team, which I personally don't, then we should look to move him on permanently. As mentioned above, there will be several Championship clubs interested after his previous loan deals in that division.

4 or 5 million sounds logical based on prem transfer fees but it is not going to happen. Most of the Champonship clubs have no money to spend as they're overloaded with wage bills. Yeah, every year one team goes on a bit of spending spree before getting in trouble with FFP but they tend to go for match winners not center halves. There are plenty of other center halves as good as Pennington that clubs can pick up on loan from any number of clubs. So no one is going to pay 4 or 5 million for Pennington.

I notice that Chelsea have let Sarri leave. This will have an affect on the Zouma situation. The next manager may decide to hang onto him. Also there currently appears to be a rumour the Mina may be getting loaned out to Fenebahce. It wouldn't surprise me given his poor showing last season. If this is the case letting another CH go would only leave us with Keane and Holgate. Pennington may not be the best CH in the world but he'll do for cover in an emergency.

Frank

Fenerbache are always sniffing around for freebies but I can’t see that happening. I notice Steve Holland linked with Chelsea which is interesting as he coached their under 21s.

Can't see Chelsea appointing him. They have become used to big name managers. Their fans would see Holland as a downgrade.