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Everton vie with PSG for Neres

| Saturday, 15 June 2019 34comments  |  Jump to last
Everton are reportedly leading the race to sign Brazilian winger David Neres.

The Blues apparently have the edge over the other leading contender, Paris Saint-Germain, for the Ajax star's signature in that Neres would prefer a move to the Premier League over Ligue 1.

UOL claimed yesterday that the player has made PSG aware that he favours a move to England and that Everton have been leveraging their existing relationship with his representatives who were involved in the deals with for his compatriots Bernard and Richarlison.



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Bill Gienapp
1 Posted 14/06/2019 at 23:33:41
I'll file this one under "believe it when I see it," but who knows? Maybe Richarlison has some pull with his fellow Brazilians.
Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
2 Posted 14/06/2019 at 23:39:00
Was he in the same side as Davy Klassen?
Andrew Ellams
3 Posted 14/06/2019 at 23:41:50
Where would this leave Bernard.
Peter Roberts
4 Posted 14/06/2019 at 23:49:23
Phil Roberts

Not sure if he was but the Ajax side that Klaassen captained was a pale imitation of the side this season. If we landed Neres given his exploits in the CL then it would be an absolute coup

Andrew, it would leave Bernard vying for competition in the 7/10/11 roles with Neres, Richarlison, Sigurdsson and Lookman/Walcott (assuming one or both of them leave). So not too much to worry about yet

Paul Dewhurst
5 Posted 15/06/2019 at 00:19:11
We have got to look to improve our options up front Walcott and Lookman are not good enough. I like the look of Lookman when he plays he’s got that X factor, can beat a man and create a chance. But Koeman Unsworth Allardyce And Silva have not started with him often yet the Germans loved him.

This is the type of player or go have a look at or may look at getting a good deal on Malcom he’s not getting a look in at Barca or Neres who may think fuck it if I got do it in the PL I Can go to Spain then rather than France. Imagine getting one of these for 30-40 mill who are 1st team players and selling lookman and Vlasic for about the same swap 2 players you won’t play for one you will or even sell Onyekuru swap 3 for 2 and get them both or throw lot at then lad from Juve.

Last Season we had two players in double figures if we could get 4 players in double figures that’s a big difference in points. After Gylfi and Richarlison we only had DCL on 8 and Walcott 6 ( £120k pw for 6 goals FML)
that’s what we need to improve, do that and learn to defend set pieces and we could have a good season.

Tony Hill
6 Posted 14/06/2019 at 00:22:45
Quite right, Bill @1. We are a club which has made a fine art out of disappointing expectations. We should wait until any of our rumoured captures is¿» standing on the Street End in our kit and snogging David Harrison who is holding the dry signature.

Otherwise it's bollocks, all of it.

Tommy Carter
7 Posted 15/06/2019 at 00:51:18
@ Paul 5

Finally a fellow blue with some sense. One that can see Lookman needs moving on. He’s not good enough, simple.

Too many Evertonians feed the theory that not playing makes you a better player. Pennington, Dowell, Kenny and Lookman are all the next big thing apparently or at some point in the last 2 years have been. Besic was before that.

It’s existed as long as I’ve been blue.

Who cares what this means for Bernard? If he’s good enough, it won’t matter who we sign, he’ll get into the team. If not, he becomes part of the wider first team picture, if he’s failing there then we ship him on.

Our club I hate to say it needs to follow the example set across Stanley Park. In the last 7 years they have gone from being about level with us in terms of squad quality and achievement to absolutely eclipsing us as a football club. And I hate it.

Their transfer policy during this time underpins this.

They have had several young players who were the next big thing. They were given chances if deserved and within a year, if the requisite level wasn’t shown. They were shown the door. Ibe and Solanke being the key examples. There’s been no time for waiting for these players to get good. It’s ruthless but it has really worked for them.

Blues are sat around thinking at 21 Kieran Dowell is going to be the new Kevin Sheedy. It’s embarrasing. He needs to be offloaded to a championship club immediately. For his sake and ours.

The other feature of LFC was their ruthlessness with players who were no longer performing. No sentiment involved with Sturridge despite his incredible 2013/2015 performances. Did they wait for him to come good again? No, they moved on and he became a squad player that they’ve been trying to offload for at least two years.

Gaute Lie
8 Posted 15/06/2019 at 02:59:42
Same looks as Richarlison. Is it the winner looks? I think so. So let's bring this one on and play him as a striker if he's able. Or else where should Bernard play? AM? Sigurdsson? But let's get this guy.
Mark Andersson
9 Posted 15/06/2019 at 03:27:09
This is a bigger test for Silva as he has still not convinced a lot if fans that he is up to the job he was saved by a good end of season..

If and its always a big IF Everton get off to a good start then he may well survive the inevitable dip in form leter. however the pressure will mount if the team falters at tge start if the season..

Unfortunately bringing in qaulity loanies is both a blessing and a curse..

A lot of posts on othere threads seem to think that other than the shite and man city the other top 4...6 contenders are in some sort of mess or transition and that we are on the up...

For me I feel next season will be very much like last season except the shite will win the premiership...

Martin Berry
10 Posted 15/06/2019 at 08:20:45
Not sure where he would fit in, cant see him as the main striker as he may find the Prem a little to robust for him like Klassen. As a winger ? then who is he going to displace ?
Colin Glassar
11 Posted 15/06/2019 at 08:25:51
Tommy #7, brilliant post. For far too long we have persevered with too many crap-to-average players hoping they would become the next Rooney only to see them wither and die.

If Lookman, Davies, Holgate etc... are judged as not going to make the grade at Everton then they should be moved on. No room for sentimentality in this game. We need to be ruthless!

P.S. I still believe the three above mentioned players will come good but you get my gist.

Ari Sigurgeirsson
12 Posted 15/06/2019 at 09:01:54
Good threat, I have not much to Addi. But agreed with Paul (5), Tommy (7) and Colin (11). I think that after Moshiri came on we (the supporters) can allowed us to think that way. Letting players go sooner rather than later is most often a good thing for the players too.
John G Davies
13 Posted 15/06/2019 at 09:06:29
If we can get this one over the line it will define our intentions for the future.
If we can beat a club like PSG to a signing what a statement that is.
Terry Underwood
14 Posted 15/06/2019 at 10:02:15
my friends cousin has it on good authority from a guy who stood next to his mate in a pub that we are in for Jill Scott from the England womens world cup team
George Cumiskey
15 Posted 15/06/2019 at 10:16:55
Tommy at 7 spot on mate, and I'd add DCL to that list as well.
Brian Murray
16 Posted 15/06/2019 at 11:18:14
Tommy Carter (5). If we were even remotely ruthless we certainly would not be offering a 30-plus-year old full back a new deal. The top 4 would have moved on from that problem and scenario 5 years earlier.
Annika Herbert
17 Posted 15/06/2019 at 12:05:06
According to some on this thread we should just dump a large part of the squad and buy new,hopefully better,players.
Personally I prefer to let the management team make those decisions.Whilst I agree there are several players that need to be moved on,i fail to see how people come up with these ideas when they don,t see said players in training every day and base their judgements on a handful of games!!
On paper we can all be a top quality manager
Annika Herbert
18 Posted 15/06/2019 at 12:05:06
According to some on this thread we should just dump a large part of the squad and buy new,hopefully better,players.
Personally I prefer to let the management team make those decisions.Whilst I agree there are several players that need to be moved on,i fail to see how people come up with these ideas when they don,t see said players in training every day and base their judgements on a handful of games!!
On paper we can all be a top quality manager
Annika Herbert
19 Posted 15/06/2019 at 12:05:08
According to some on this thread we should just dump a large part of the squad and buy new,hopefully better,players.
Personally I prefer to let the management team make those decisions.Whilst I agree there are several players that need to be moved on,i fail to see how people come up with these ideas when they don,t see said players in training every day and base their judgements on a handful of games!!
On paper we can all be a top quality manager
Derek Knox
20 Posted 15/06/2019 at 12:08:01
Martin @ 10, let's face it Klaasen was like a Snowflake in a Desert Storm, another of that master (bator) tactician Koeman's great ideas, and he's now Manager of Netherlands.

I think there could be some possibility in this link too, especially with the association with Brands, his friendship with Richarlison, his desire to play in the Premier League. I believe we will make a Marquee signing this window, Neres could be it.

Fran Mitchell
21 Posted 15/06/2019 at 12:30:32
Annika makes decent point (not that it needed to be made 3 times haha).

Whilst 'patience' with average players is clearly what we need, so yed, players like Dowell unfortunately will not cut the mustard and need to find a new club.

The 'buy players who are good enough' philosphy is very risky and usually leads to signing a number of flops.

Tje likes of Klaassen, Bolasie, Walcott, Williams, Schneiderlin, Tosun are testament to this.

We need to invest in, and test our young players. Davies, Lookman, DCL, Vlasic, Gordon and a few others have shown great potential and deserve more chances.

In terms of Neres, exciting, but worry about signing a player like him when his value is at maximum. He could turn out to be brilliant, but could equally struggle in the Premier League.

But of course, Neres or Walcott on the right is no contest. Hopefully we find a new home for Walcott.

Tony Abrahams
22 Posted 15/06/2019 at 12:33:47
Although I’ve only watched both these players a couple of times, Ziyech, is the player I’d love to see Everton sign.
Tommy Carter
23 Posted 15/06/2019 at 12:41:48
I didn’t state at any point that we should go out buying anybody instead of the younger players we have in the squad. Far from it. But we hang on to players for too long in the hope that they will come good, rather than based on any solid evidence that they will come good.

Kenny will not do anything for Everton football club in the next 12 months. Why not follow the model of European clubs. Move him on but with a clause that we can bring him back for a pre determined fee should he show the quality that we need. Instead these players are rotting in the reserves or going off to clubs on loan where they are treated like any other player. I don’t see how the loan spell of Dowel to Sheff Utd benefited him in any way last season. He certainly didn’t look any better 12 months on in his development than he looked at Forest the year before. Do 2 years ago we could’ve sold him and then the team that buys him have to justify their faith in the investment. It benefits everybody. If we have to buy Dowell back for £10m because he turns out to be unbelievable then it is a small price to pay. The current model absolutely doesn’t work for us. With these players gone it also creates space for Unsworth to have to bring in even younger players and test them above their level. Rather than winning meaningless under age games with a squad full of players too good for that level but not good enough for the first team

Tony Abrahams
24 Posted 15/06/2019 at 12:53:58
How many times has this European model clause been used, because the player who has been sold, has been that good, that his former club want him back?

If you think you’ve got a really good bunch of young players, then surely it’s better to send them out on loan to see if they improve, rather than look to sell them just in case they don’t?


Stephen Williams
25 Posted 15/06/2019 at 12:54:37
To make a difference to the team, we need to buy players that will make a difference, ie top quality, not second rung quality - we already have plenty of them.

Fran (19), the likes of Klaassen, Bolasie, Walcott, Williams, Schneiderlin, Tosun who you quote fall into that second rung category (at best) and we have to move on from those types.

Add to that we should allow the kids a chance (both in training and in the odd game) to prove they can be top quality or move them on also. Its either top quality or accept the status quo. No time for sentimentality. It is this strategy that the likes of that shower over the park have followed in recent years with spectacular results and we need to do the same.

Whilst we can't just buy a whole new team of top quality (see what I'm doing here?), we should be looking to add 1 or 2 every summer window which then steadily moves us up the pecking order. We really are at a tipping point - grasp the opportunity as its the only way to leave mediocrity behind.

Frank Crewe
26 Posted 15/06/2019 at 13:04:50
The problem with making wholesale changes to your squad is that it can go two ways. A success like Wolves or a total disaster like Fulham.

Over the last few seasons our various managers have bought and sold with abandon and it hasn't improved our squad at all. I think the main reason for this is because since Moshiri has been bankrolling our spending we have tended to go for quantity rather than quality. During his tenure, Martinez bought 24 players and, with the possible exceptions of Lukaku and Barry, there wasn't a top quality player amongst them. Koeman brought in some decent players, Gana, Gilfy, Keane and Pickford come to mind but again he packed it out with the likes of Williams, Lookman, Vlasic, Sandro, Klaassen. Allardyce just gave us bog standard Tosun, past it Rooney and a mercurial Walcott.

Now we have Silva and Brands who appear to have learned the lessons of recent seasons and are trying to bring in proper quality players. Richarlison, Gomes, Bernard, Digne are the kind of quality Everton require although the jury is still out on Mina. I think this is the direction we need to move in. Only quality players. No more makeweights or past it stars.

Better to spend £50 million on one top quality player than £10 million each for five duds.

Fran Mitchell
27 Posted 15/06/2019 at 13:12:53
Stephen, in an ideal world that is what we would do one or two top players per season = a too team in 4-5 but top players want silverware/CL football now. How do we keep them? Also top players cost 50/60 million. So 120 million per year on 2 players for 5 years. Just aint gonna happen.

I feel our best way is signing potentially top players, and then investing in the potentially top players we have.

Lookman remains an enigma, but personally, I wish he had played all the games Walcott had done over the last 18months. At least then we would know.

Liverpool got Mané and Firmino, none of whom where 'top' players at the time.

Spurs got Alli, Erikson and Son, none were 'top players' when signed.

The only club witj success in buying ready made talent is Man City, and even they buy young players who they can improve.

Paul Dewhurst
28 Posted 15/06/2019 at 13:18:25
Annika you are right the people who watch these players play in day out are the best people to judge but these people don’t pick them. One thing we need to to is balance the books that’s parts of Brands job rescue the wage budget and reduce the age of the squad. And we have a huge squad, the questions the management team I’m sure are asking:

Will they figure this year?

If no will they figure in the future?

That will I would guess depend on if they then try and sell, and if not loan if nobody will buy or if they are for the future get the 1st team football in any top European league. Or even a team chasing promotion in the championship look at Tammy Abraham.

I do propose we dump a large part of the squad and buy better players just like Brands did last summer. Players not in the first team or not certain to be on the Bench.

McCarthy
Lookman
Vlasic
Henry O
Dowell
JJK - now loaned
Schneiderlin
Besic
Bolasie
Tom Davies
Mirallas

I’m sure the management team will have to ask the two questions I mentioned about all of the squad but the ones above have made only small if any impact. I’m not saying get rid of them all but we need to get rid of some / most who would like to guess the return in transfer fees and reducing the wage bill reduction I would only be guessing!

Could that fund two or three youngsters with great reputation like a Richarlison or a Lukaku? That’s what we need to do, it won’t be easy but I thought we did well last summer and I think with a years worth of knowledge in the bank Brands will do well this summer. He needs to a Goals and we need to defend set pieces again easier said than done.

Paul Dewhurst
29 Posted 15/06/2019 at 13:21:01
Fran 25 - Great point about Lookman. I would rather see him that Walcott.
Jason Broome
30 Posted 15/06/2019 at 14:54:00
The Premier League is the number 1 league on the planet with some of the most accomplished, skillful, toughest and fastest defences around.

At least 10 teams in the league are capable of hurting anyone. We (i'm proud to say) are one of those teams.

Do I think that Neres should be the marquee signing at Everton. NO.

Since Marcel Brands arrived I have paid more attention to Dutch football. I watched this guy a lot last season and a few areas of his game need work. I have the following reservations.

He has pace but isn't great on crosses.

He can dribble but he's no Rivaldo, Denilson, Neymar or Ronaldinho.

His stature and game is very similar to a young Nani or Walcott.

He's a lightweight and hits the deck more times than rain.

He tries silly tricks that don't come off, resulting in frustrating the attack.

He doesn't track back. An issue for some I guess.

He's Brazilian so everyone automatically thinks he's great.

He's surrounded by an impressive array of talent in the current Ajax squad.

40 - 50 Million is a lot of money.

The right wing has been an issue in recent years for us. Many have arrived and few have consistently made the grade. As with a striker this has to be a critical position. How I long for a Trevor Steven or Kanchelkis!

If you don't deliver we at Everton kind of let you know about it. If he's a confidence player, well, good luck with that.

I would rather have Vinicius Jr, Ziyech, Malcolm, Traore or even our own Bernard.

Whether it be leading the line or running down the wings I cannot see what he will bring to move us forward from what we already have.

I had reservations regarding Klaassen and Mina. That sick feeling of ignoring the hype and just looking for myself.

If we buy him, I more than hope he proves me wrong. That'll be one humble pie that I would love to eat.

But these are just my views and he is yet to convince me that the top 6 or even 10 should be quaking in their boots. They will have an answer for him.

Sam Hoare
31 Posted 15/06/2019 at 22:10:50
Jason@30 I agree that anything over 35m would be a lot for Neres. It seems he still has a few flaws in his game and will certainly need to improve his defensive side to make it as one of Silva’s wingers.

But he’s got real talent. He’s fast and can dribble pretty well. He can shoot and pass well too. He’s performed well in the CL this season and is now starting for Brazil. And he’s only 22.

Plus he’s mates with Richarlison and has played with him at youth level.

It’s a risk certainly but I think he has the talent to be a special player if he works hard.

Vinicius is not leaving Real. Ziyech is older and will demand CL football. Traore is interesting but very inconsistent. I rate Malcolm highly and would maybe go for him over Neres but it would probably only be on loan (or with Barca buyback clause). To be honest I’d be happy with either of them. A quick left footed winger who can score goals but also playmake would go down nicely.

Andy Crooks
32 Posted 15/06/2019 at 22:55:10
Just move them on? Who the fuck to? Lookman? Move him on. Sandro? Move him on. Let's move the whole fucking squad on. The world will be biting our hands off. " we need to be ruthless", yes, fuck contracts and employment law move them on.There has been some utter shite on this thread.
Andrew Ellams
33 Posted 15/06/2019 at 23:12:17
I'd take Neres before Bertrand Traore. Potential is where we are as a club and I'd take this level of potential in a heartbeat.
Kase Chow
34 Posted 15/06/2019 at 00:04:21
Personally prefer Bertrand Traore. Seems to have a better eye for goal

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