10 Sport in France say that the Blues would look to replace Gueye with Mendes and while they aren't able to specify the amount of this reported second offer (the assertion, of course, being that there was an opening bid from Goodison at some point), they claim that, according to their information, Everton have made a formal approach.
Brazilian midfielder Mendes has made 52 league appearances for Lille since his transfer from Sao Paulo two years ago.
Original Source: Le10Sport.com
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1 Posted 17/06/2019 at 05:33:44
2 Posted 17/06/2019 at 06:50:40
3 Posted 17/06/2019 at 07:41:35
4 Posted 17/06/2019 at 08:30:15
5 Posted 17/06/2019 at 08:40:48
6 Posted 17/06/2019 at 09:36:43
Thiago Mendes on the other hand does. He's a very good player and was instrumental for an over-achieving Lille last year. He's not as big a tackler as Gueye but he is definitely better on the ball.
Having said that he's only had one good season in France having been fairly average in 2017-18. And didn't pull up many trees in his time in Brazil.
At 27, he doesn't fall into Brands's sweet spot so I'd be surprised if this one materialises but if Gueye does go then a Mendes able to replicate his form last season would be a strong replacement. I'd prefer Sangare from Toulouse though.
7 Posted 17/06/2019 at 10:09:51
8 Posted 17/06/2019 at 10:29:12
Dream move to PSG it would be for Gana but a nightmare for us to replace him, they say, you never miss the water till the well runs dry, which would be very apt in the case of Gana.
As many have said, myself included, he is an unsung hero, a dynamo that often goes under the radar, in terms of recognition, but God will he be missed should he go?
I can't see Thiago Mendes being a 'like for like' either should Gana move on, plus his age doesn't quite fit the New Model, again I believe Brands will make the right choice or come up with someone we weren't expecting or possibly even heard of, fingers crossed.
9 Posted 17/06/2019 at 10:58:56
Carvalho is a No from me also, he's not energetic enough to be a success in our league. I would rather go for someone like Ndidi of Leicester.
10 Posted 17/06/2019 at 12:58:30
11 Posted 17/06/2019 at 13:49:55
Finding a similar tackling machine just won't be an option; it will mean finding a different style and adapting.
12 Posted 17/06/2019 at 14:24:27
13 Posted 17/06/2019 at 19:10:58
14 Posted 17/06/2019 at 20:36:31
As good as Gueye's form was towards the end of the season I can't help but think it was a reaction to not getting his 'dream move' and playing out of his skin to keep him firmly in the mind of PSG for this summer – and who knows what promises were made back in January.
We've got Joe Williams coming back and apparently very highly thought of by Silva, there's also Baningime coming back off loan so game time must be found for these two if Brands is true to his word and wanting to develop youngsters.
As for Mendes, I know nothing of him and will be relying on the more informed and YouTube.
15 Posted 17/06/2019 at 20:54:07
16 Posted 18/06/2019 at 01:52:35
17 Posted 18/06/2019 at 11:23:03
However, if Gueye does go, I think that we should be looking at Mendy or Ndidi from Leicester, or the one I really like (and fits the 'young' criteria) is Chodhury – I saw him 2 or 3 seasons ago vs U23s and he bullied our midfield; looked good for England at U20/21 level too. Cracking hair too.
18 Posted 18/06/2019 at 12:43:55
If you ever watch him carefully enough, you'll see that every now and again he does break into a sprint and he will shock you with his pace. He's got long legs and lacks acceleration. He also plods around. But don't confuse that with slow. Also don't think he will be beaten for pace, because he won't. He just doesn't use energy he doesn't need to use.
As for signing him, that ship has sailed. I think we need a younger man, someone with his ability to hold and to pass. Qualities superior to Gueye has, and such a player can change the dynamic of the midfield and allow Gomes to move further forwards and level with Sigurdsson in a 4-3-3.
I hope we can retain Gueye as I would worry about the lack of energy, which we need with our pressing game, with Gomes, Sigurdsson and a plodder like Carvalho who will not vacate the middle.
It'll be very interesting to see how Silva assembles the jigsaw once pre-season finishes.
19 Posted 18/06/2019 at 12:50:21
Stats show that he got 10 yellows in 34 league games last season. This shows Discipline is clearly an issue and his tackling is not too clean.
20 Posted 18/06/2019 at 12:56:05
21 Posted 18/06/2019 at 13:00:34
If you ever watch Carvalho get the opportunity to carry the bal,l he can bomb forward at speed. It happens like a couple of times a season. He is rarely skinned by an attacking midfielder, such is his superior positioning and reading of the play but, if he has to get into a foot race, you again see how fast he can be. Again, you see this a handful of times per season.
Those questioning his mobility have not seen him enough.
22 Posted 18/06/2019 at 13:14:03
In the final, Portugal played with Danilo as an anchor behind Carvalho. Carvalho was pushed up to ensure fluidity in passing and anticipate and break up the quick Dutch interplay in midfield.
I thought he did fine. A replacement for Gana he ain't. At all. But then I don't think there are many players who have Gana's unique engine, tenacity and aggression rolled into a slight frame which helps him to cover the ground quickly.
Carvalho is a superior version of Schneiderlin. But would he do well as a No 6 for us? I doubt it. We have done better when we win the ball further up the pitch.
His age and likely cost are a factor too. Pretty sure he will do a good job in the Italian league.
23 Posted 18/06/2019 at 13:18:51
24 Posted 18/06/2019 at 16:23:43
25 Posted 18/06/2019 at 17:05:47
I like Carvalho, a lot of people do, but the issue is his degree of mobility. Is he mobile “enough” – and that's a judgement call for everyone to make individually – it's not an empirical truth! You may think he is, others may not. They could have reached that conclusion based on other criteria, and dismissing them as the product of not knowing as much as you is a bit insulting.
26 Posted 18/06/2019 at 18:35:53
Seriously though, its a shame McCarthy is injured a lot. I always like the look of Baningime, Carvalho also a decent shout but never underestimate the speed the BPL is played at! Some players that could offer us something:
4. Max Eggestein
5. Rafa Silva (more technical)
Once we have the midfield sorted we need to look at a striker. Given we havent got megabucks to spend Id try:
Haller - costly?
Andre Silva - Second chance.
Cutrone - Talented and decent size for BPL.
27 Posted 18/06/2019 at 18:55:46
Playing Central midfield with licence to get forward. He's got talent, I hope he's properly assessed and given another chance.
We will regret letting him go. One of the best U21 players at the tournament and should be valued at £25M plus.
28 Posted 18/06/2019 at 21:14:32
29 Posted 18/06/2019 at 21:24:11
30 Posted 18/06/2019 at 21:46:14
31 Posted 18/06/2019 at 21:54:21
Richarleson could be that much more productive with a player of that calibre backing him up as it would take the weight off him a lot.
Yes, Sigurdsson can light up the match on occasions but I fear his best days are gone, much the same as Walcott. Calvert-Lewin is average as is Bernard despite one or two decent showings toward the end of the season.
The biggest drawback will be Everton not playing in Europe as most players of high class are seeking the big teams and so I cannot see Gana staying or even Gomes for that matter..
32 Posted 18/06/2019 at 22:09:32
Easy from the living room, but if a team have got an extra man, then they usually keep playing it wide, looking to create a two vs one situation, and with forwards not really known for their defensive work. This is how the English manager, tried to see out the game?
Okay, I know Calvert-Lewin has played out wide, but talk about exploiting your own fullbacks? I wonder how much this manager earns to make decisions like this?
33 Posted 18/06/2019 at 22:16:56
In terms of midfield, for the pressing game, we need that engine in the middle. Losing Gueye would be a killer, and we need to do everything in our powers to convince him that he can achieve his ambitions here.
Getting the right man to play on the left or right of the attack is key to our desired system. Fast, direct attacks coming from both sides, goal threat from wide and with direct full-backs. With a midfield with power and elegance, Sigurdsson, Gomes and Gueye provide that. Davies developing further is necessary, and Vlasic should be kept as back up to Siggy... if not, maybe Dowell but I have my doubts so if Vlasic leaves, someone to come in there.
And I do feel Calvert-Lewin will have a great season, and will get into the Euro2020 squad as Kane's back up.
34 Posted 18/06/2019 at 22:40:03
35 Posted 18/06/2019 at 22:45:10
He's not slow and I'm all for saving energy if you can get away with it but you don't in the Premier league.
He's no Yaya Toure or Pogba who can sometimes get away with plodding along but I'm not convinced he has a great tool set in his box.
The Schnides comparison is unfair.
As for England u21s that's the English /British tactical niavity for you. No wonder Premier league owners look abroad.
Situation. 60 ish mins, 1-0 up against France. Midfielder just sent off. What do you do?
Answer. Take off two wingers and bring on 2 strikers and ask them to defend.
Result. Lose 2-1.
36 Posted 19/06/2019 at 00:11:08
As for people saying hes slow I havent got statistic evidence but agree - he just sits in front of back 4, sprays passes and whilst does go forward on occasions he has no speed in his locker like Keane / Viera types always did.
I dont agree with Steve Ferns, maybe he is correct and is fact that hes not slow, but until someone proves me otherwise other than stating its fact, my opinion is hes slow! Oh and Ive seen him play live on plenty of occasions - admitted only on the box
37 Posted 19/06/2019 at 00:55:43
He was apparently disappointed that he couldn't get a move to a bigger club than Everton.
So I have a feeling he'll be pushing for a move to PSG.
38 Posted 19/06/2019 at 01:02:55
39 Posted 19/06/2019 at 01:05:33
40 Posted 19/06/2019 at 01:06:56
41 Posted 19/06/2019 at 01:21:45
If PSG want to make him an offer he can't refuse, especially at 29, I'd thank him for his efforts and reluctantly take 5 or 6 times what we paid for him.
42 Posted 19/06/2019 at 02:37:00
'If you ever watch Carvalho get the opportunity to carry the bal,l he can bomb forward at speed. It happens like a couple of times a season. Again, you see this a handful of times per season'.
Get him in straight away! A 'couple' or 'handful' times a season he bombs forward (any reports on the outcomes Steve?). That's exactly what we need. It's worth the price of a season ticket alone.
No need to pull the 'you haven't seen him as much as me' line Steve as quite frankly it's not that classy and doubtless wrong in more than a few cases, and well how many times do we need to make our minds up?
I have seen Carvalho play may times and in my opinion in keeping with the majority on this thread I consider him to lack the energy and mobility necessary for the Premier League, although if he does come I'll sit on the edge of me seat waiting for the twice-season dash into the final third. He would without any shadow of a doubt be a shadow of Gana. You can have a dig at Gana all you like Steve but that is not the best strategy for bigging up your man against the grain.
You make many strong cases on these pages Steve but this I feel is not one of them mate.
43 Posted 19/06/2019 at 21:59:49
I watched the fella quite a bit and he's not what we need. Especially if we brought in another industrious Gana Gueye, Kante type.
44 Posted 19/06/2019 at 22:11:04
45 Posted 20/06/2019 at 09:41:29
The judgements people are making on here remind me of the judgements people (non-Everton fans) all made on Thomas Gravesen. Everyone was convinced he was Lee Carsley and not the graceful, technical ball playing midfielder he was. Hell even Real Madrid signed him thinking he was a Lee Carsley type and if an elite club can make such a mistake, then why can't a football fan.
First impressions of Carvalho are of a slow lumbering player, very ungraceful who barely moves and runs like he's shit his kecks. So, many mistakenly think he's slow. On those rare occasions he's exposed and needs to get into a foot race, then he demonstrates he has a turn of pace. Sure his pace is barely above average, but he's not slow.
His positioning is such that he is rarely exposed to the point that he gets into a foot race, so unless you watch game after game for Sporting, which I used to, then it's not something you are likely to see.
And I'm not putting myself forward as an oracle of football, I just follow Everton and Sporting and used to watch a lot of Portuguese football as a result. I have seen William Carvalho in the flesh and paid particular attention to him as an impressive player who seems to coast through games without breaking sweat, particularly in the domestic league.
I think he's not the right fit for us though. If it was fantasy football and you were building your side from scratch, then sure, you could do a lot worse than William Carvalho holding. But it's not and we aren't. So we need someone in the engine room with pace behind Sigurdsson and Gomes. I would like the player to have more positional discipline than Gueye and a better range of passing, but such a player is probably out of our reach and likely to cost a fortune. I just hope Brands can find a young fella capable of turning into such a player and we can coach him into it.
46 Posted 20/06/2019 at 09:56:34
47 Posted 20/06/2019 at 17:24:21
Likely to be an internal French rumour, assuming they think PSG will buy Gueye. They've likely looked at available Brazilians, because that's who we are linked with these days! Also he kind of looks a bit like Gana and has similar hair. Seems wiry and energetic and likes a tackle. Didn't play in Europe until he was 27 so is he really top drawer? Then again, was Gana tearing up trees at 25? Chelsea were apparently scouting him last month.
Final bit of research gleans that Transfermarkt has him rated at £22.5m. He has 3 years left on his Lille contract so unless they have money problems I'd imagine he'd cost more than his evaluation.
From what I've seen of Carvalho he reminds me very much of Schneiderlin, but even more laconic. When we were linked with him a few hears ago I couldn't believe he was only 24, he looked 10 years older! Ditto with Sandro, actually. Anyway, he only moved to Betis a year ago, why are we even talking about him?
48 Posted 29/06/2019 at 12:52:51
He is a really good midfield player, a terrier and very much in the Peter Reid mould but thankfully faster.
Also, although 29 in September, he is a year younger than Gueye and could be excellent value as back-up.
49 Posted 29/06/2019 at 18:57:32
50 Posted 03/07/2019 at 12:05:11
51 Posted 03/07/2019 at 14:02:39
I was in Lisbon for four days last season and went to watch Sporting play against admittedly poor opposition.
I spent 90 mins watching Carvalho and honestly mate, it was like watching Douglas Bader on acid. Talk about slow, it was like watching the QE2 attempting a U-turn.
Not for me, I'm afraid.
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