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In Praise of Richarlison!
I am most likely very biased but is there a better attacking player anywhere in the Premier League than Richarlison?
I would not swap him for Salah, Jesus (comes very close), Auybamiyang, Jimenez or Vardi and Harry Kane. The goal he scored today was in a totally different class from any other goal scorer we have had since the days of Lineker and Sharp.
Richarlison is coming close to being an amazing all-round goalscorer. He has pace, strength, control, lethal in the air and on the ground, and is one tough cookie. He has been kicked all over the place since the Restart but recently looks like the only one who gives a damn.
The biggest problem that Ancelotti, Brands and Moshiri have is hanging onto him until we have enough decent players who can give more scoring chances than the crumbs he is currently feeding off. His goal today will be the highlight of MotD, appear in Goal of the Season, and convince many Champions League clubs that he is the one they need while we cannot even get close to the Europa League.
Dear old Marco Silva came in for some most deserved criticism but, without him being in charge, I don't think we would have got anywhere near Richarlison. So a big “Thank You” to Marco... and then piss off!
I really hope we get to see Richarlison in an Everton shirt with half-a-dozen decent players around him before he goes — and he will go. So enjoy him while we can and pray that Carlo has some magic up his sleeves when the transfer window opens!
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2 Posted 10/07/2020 at 09:30:37
3 Posted 10/07/2020 at 09:36:12
He is constantly doing the following:
1. Trying to win free kicks by exaggerating slight contact. Referees rarely fall for this, they love to show that they haven't, and they are far less inclined to give genuine fouls if they know the player does this.
2. Deliberately taking the ball into areas where he will be fouled rather than finding teammate. This is not in and around the box, where it would be a good thing, but in midfield where the set pieces aren't dangerous.
3. Letting us know he's ‘hurt, but bravely carrying on.'
4. Getting visibly upset at the rough treatment handed out to him by opposing defenders. These last two encourage the defenders and let them know they're getting the better of him.
He can do even more for the team with some really simple wising up and toughening up. This might take a 30 minute conversation and a conscious decision, not exactly a difficult thing to do. If the club want to pay me a coach's salary I'll pop round and do it myself.
He needs to look like he enjoys the rough stuff. He needs to stay on his feet until it's impossible not to, get up with a smile on his face if the defenders want to get heavy, and dish out some of the nudges and body contacts that Calvert-Lewin is becoming adept at.
He's got so much in his locker, but he hands over advantages to defenders and bad referees. I'm flabbergasted that no-one at the club has worked on this because it never seems to change.
4 Posted 10/07/2020 at 11:39:30
It is an absudisgrace and a dereliction of duty that referees are allowing this to go on. It's only a matter of time before the lad is put in hospital.
Against Tottenham it was blatantly obvious that Mourinho had briefed his players to foul Richarlison out of the game. Last night there was more of the same.
Managers will think it's a free hit to take him out now every game.
The referees have been a disgrace to allow this, and ourselves for not complaining about it as aggressively as possible. Any other club whose star player is getting cut down would go mental on the ref. Our lads react like a librarian who has seen someone put a book on the wrong shelf.
5 Posted 10/07/2020 at 11:50:50
However, my points above are clearer examples of things we can do. If I was an opposing manager I'd be telling my players to target him because I know it'd work. Richarlison needs to be the kind of player who it's not worth targeting because it won't affect him. He needs to stop trying to buy cheap free kicks by going down easily, because far from buying cheap free kicks, he's costing himself real ones because referees write him off as someone who goes down easily.
Again, this is a 20 minute conversation and maybe a slight adaptation to training that should make a massive difference to what happens on the pitch.
Incidentally, another plus point on Calvert-Lewin's growing list yesterday was how he went over as team ‘enforcer' when Stephens was trying to bully Richarlison. He picked up a yellow for it, which was harsh as Stephens got nothing, presumably because the appalling Lee Mason wouldn't have had the bottle to give him a second yellow.
6 Posted 10/07/2020 at 11:55:26
I agree entirely, it's a good job the lad is a tough cookie, but as you say the likelihood is that he'll suffer a long-term injury due to one crude challenge too many. I'm sick of the game and how it's being officiated.
How come our players have to tread more carefully than others by not falling over or not aiming kicks at opponents whilst the so-called big clubs get away with diving, feigning injury, deliberately injuring others and any other 'cheating' device you can think of.
Perhaps, our players are fully aware of all of this favouritism shown towards the chosen teams and that's why they can't be bothered putting the effort in. Considering the lack of challenges our players generally put in - they gather a ridiculous amount of yellow cards compared to many other Premier League clubs.
It was hoped that VAR would clean up the game but it has become apparent that it is making things worse and favouring those who employ cheating tactics.
How long will Richarlison remain at Goodison if he feels he's not being protected on the pitch and realises that if he plied his trade elsewhere he could be free from the brutal treatment he has received in the last few matches.
7 Posted 10/07/2020 at 12:27:34
Spot on. It's absolute nonsense to say he is at risk of getting a serious injury. He is at no more risk than anyone else on a football pitch. What is happening is he is getting clipped, fouled repeatedly (not seriously), which then sees him scream, roll over and we are then a man down until the physio has run on with the magic sponge and then he makes a recovery like Lazarus.
He has had a good season, I've got no issues with his performances. But we were all saying this last season. He needs to toughen up. Opposition teams are aware of this weakness he has - teams are simply going to carry on doing what Spurs and Southampton have done. How do you nullify Richarlison? Clip his ankles, give him a nudge in the back etc. This is currently taking him out of every game for 7/8 minutes. Why wouldn't opposition teams do this?
8 Posted 11/07/2020 at 07:43:11
However, I do really believe that we have seen a big improvement from Richarlison about feigning injuries this season - I do believe that the pendulum has swung the other way big time. Opposition players think that they can kick him and foul him and the referees won't penalise them because "Oh, it is that actor – Richarlison".
The referee's job is to officiate in an unbiased way and be true to what they see in front of their eyes, not what happened in the past. I am surprised that Carlo has not yet brought this up in any of his recent press conferences - I think he would be justified to. I can't imagine Mourinho or Klopp or Pep being quiet about their top player being kicked around like Richarlison does.
9 Posted 11/07/2020 at 12:48:44
10 Posted 11/07/2020 at 15:43:29
Unfortunately I can remember doing this many moons ago playing as a fullback! In those days it was considered as “part of the game†and football boots gave more protection than they do today.
If referees had ever played a decent game of football rather than study the rule book to get their badges, they would know this. They would also be able to make better decisions about VAR.
I don't blame Richarlison at all for showing how much it hurts when he suffers this type of tackle. Get someone to stamp down on your foot when you are wearing crocs and see how much it hurts!
11 Posted 11/07/2020 at 15:58:44
12 Posted 11/07/2020 at 16:05:39
13 Posted 11/07/2020 at 16:10:38
Let's see who Carlo brings in. If there is no quality service, Richarlison will be off next summer... let's enjoy him whilst he is here.
14 Posted 11/07/2020 at 16:33:29
On top of that, we need a midfield that works all over the field rather than specializing in being defensive, holding, or playing wide and takes away the need for Richarlison to do as much chasing back as he does.
Will we be able to keep hold of him? That is the name of the game: keep your best and improve the rest.
15 Posted 11/07/2020 at 16:58:32
Defenders don't need to be told anything by their managers. They're kicking Richarlison down because it's the best way they can stop him. And let's acknowledge that he is getting some calls from refs. It's not all one way.
Allison and Broderick. You both forgot to include, "Why back in my day, when it was a man's game..."
16 Posted 11/07/2020 at 17:06:27
We keep hearing what a decent and nice guy Carlo is. Haven't we had enough of that type? Delusional Martinez and passive Koeman. Time to join the mind games, Carlo, and question all injustices and start protecting the club a bit more.
17 Posted 11/07/2020 at 17:25:47
I seem to remember Fabian Delph getting sent off for his second foul – that was less than what the Southampton player deserved for pushing an opposition player.
18 Posted 11/07/2020 at 23:06:28
19 Posted 11/07/2020 at 23:53:26
It annoys me when commentators go on about Grealish being fouled all the time and yet, when Richarlison gets absolutely mulleted by Ward Prowse 4 times (and he never even got a yellow once) and nothing is said, it just shows you the contempt for our club and players.
20 Posted 11/07/2020 at 23:55:28
Stephens targeted Richarlison verbally and squared up to him a few times during the game. I imagine it was a preconceived tactic, especially considering the way Adam Smith managed to get Richarlison sent off against Bournemouth last season.
Richarlison deserves credit for not getting wound up, and Calvert-Lewin did a good job of noticing and protecting his team-mate.
21 Posted 11/07/2020 at 00:03:35
And I only stopped playing 5 years ago.
22 Posted 12/07/2020 at 02:09:29
Yes, his reputation is making that easier for the majority of cowardly Premier League refs but, in my opinion, there has been a big change in how vicious and repetitive the constant kicks Richarlison is getting are becoming.
23 Posted 12/07/2020 at 10:33:47
24 Posted 12/07/2020 at 15:19:40
My only thought was what was going through Richarlison's mind after we went 2 down and he had spent the whole time chasing shadows. At one point, he was on camera shaking his head.
Was he thinking “Is this what I have to look forward to next season?†And “What would it be like to play for a team that gets more possession and has players that can give me the ball in dangerous positions?â€
25 Posted 13/07/2020 at 18:17:11
26 Posted 13/07/2020 at 18:20:42
27 Posted 13/07/2020 at 18:25:39
This is possible, but who will want to come to replace him, unless part of a deal.
28 Posted 13/07/2020 at 18:41:25
What a sad state of affairs this wretched club is.
29 Posted 13/07/2020 at 18:50:24
Not sure he is quite ready to be bracketed with the leagues top marksman either. He's not even the top scorer here is he ?
30 Posted 13/07/2020 at 18:59:49
31 Posted 13/07/2020 at 19:05:09
32 Posted 13/07/2020 at 19:10:28
33 Posted 13/07/2020 at 19:29:25
34 Posted 13/07/2020 at 19:30:45
Not even our top scorer. Which is a bit disappointing when you think he has played as many games in the same team as a guy often described as championship at best
35 Posted 13/07/2020 at 19:33:13
Pickford
Coleman Keane Mina Digne
Davies Holgate Gordon
DCL Kean Richarlison
At least then we have players like Davies and Gordon who will be thinking about getting forward to support the attackers. DCL and Richie can be told to track back and close down. We can try to put our opponent on the back foot for a change, something haven't seen for ages.
36 Posted 13/07/2020 at 19:45:10
Richie is far from a great player, IMO, goes down plenty of blind alleys, plays like he's got blinkers on, passing when he should shoot and shooting when he could pass, but he is still learning, like Dominic, who gets most of the flack.
However they have scored twenty five goals between them while still relatively young and could lead our forward line for the next five or six years, let's get behind the two of them instead of overpraising one of them, again in my opinion, and giving too much stick to the other.
37 Posted 13/07/2020 at 20:17:01
Richarlison and Digne in my opinion are the only two players I would have any interest in keeping this summer.
To be honest I couldn't give a toss if they sold DCL tomorrow.
38 Posted 13/07/2020 at 21:10:05
As for you not giving a toss if Dominic was sold, well that is your call, fair enough, I think you'd be surprised at the number of premier league clubs who would be interested in signing him, and I doubt he would come cheap.
39 Posted 13/07/2020 at 22:06:00
40 Posted 13/07/2020 at 22:27:16
Well I hope they hurry up and buy him to be honest.
Maybe I will be proven wrong but I just don't rate him. He's a hard worker and has got pace but that's about it for me.
I've been told by people on this site over the last year or so that Tom Davies is a potential future England captain, Iwobi was not a panic buy and has very good distribution in the final third, Mina is one of the most dominant central defenders in the league and DCL is one of the most sought after young strikers in European football etc etc.
I'm just amazed with all this talent that we are were we are as a club at present.
Maybe it's because these players aren't as great as many people seem to think and in fact they are at best bang average.
As I've said before this club needs a massive clear out (unfortunately it won't happen any time soon) otherwise we will continue to be left behind by the clubs who use to be our equals.
41 Posted 13/07/2020 at 22:37:07
You don't think Firminho will start for Brazil?
42 Posted 13/07/2020 at 22:38:16
43 Posted 13/07/2020 at 22:39:45
Richarlison is a different matter. He scores difficult goals and makes goals out of nothing. Our current shitness worries me. It is possibly only COVID-19 that will keep him on our books for the 2020-21 season.
44 Posted 13/07/2020 at 22:50:37
You couldn't make this shit up.
Dave A is right of course, both should be supported, but by making himself a 㿞M+ player, Calvert-lewin has already made a mug out of some and they will not forgive him for it.
45 Posted 13/07/2020 at 23:02:36
Nor is “number of goals scored†the only metric to measure a player's contribution.
Nor has the author (or anyone on this thread) called DCL “championship standard at bestâ€.
Nor is the thread about DCL. Nonetheless, aside from one poster who couldn't care if he's sold, there's been plenty of praise for DCL.
t's almost - ALMOST- like praising one player and attacking another (young / homegrown / English) player are not mutually exclusive.
Welcome back. Hope you had a nice sabbatical.
46 Posted 13/07/2020 at 23:22:21
47 Posted 13/07/2020 at 23:47:45
There are two posters on this thread who have repeatedly called DCL championship at best. They wont deny it. They never miss an opportunity to have a dig. See if you can spot them
As for goals not being the only metric to judge a forward. When the OP compares a striker to the leagues top marksman. Then goals will most definitely be the metric used to.
It all comes down to the time honoured argument which has always come up with certain players: Is he a great scorer of goals or is he the scorer of great goals ? At this moment in time Richarlison may be one, but he definitely isn't the other.
48 Posted 13/07/2020 at 23:55:01
I genuinely don't know which posters you mean but fair do's, I don't doubt you on it, and if that's your way of calling them out, then so be it. It just seemed bizarre to bring DCL into it.
I don't think the OP was basing it purely on goals scored. Richarlison is one of the few players we have who I would not want to see sold. DCL too, incidentally. I don't think either one of them are or will become great goal scorers.
49 Posted 13/07/2020 at 00:02:28
50 Posted 14/07/2020 at 00:06:33
The OP bracketed Richarlison with the league's top scorers. I simply pointed out he wasn't even our top scorer.
51 Posted 14/07/2020 at 00:16:03
Don
52 Posted 14/07/2020 at 00:26:26
The three subjects to make Darren blow a gasket – Say anything bad about Everton youth, David Unsworth or Big Dunc! lol ;)
53 Posted 14/07/2020 at 09:16:37
You say you are wondering where we are in the league at the moment with all the talent we have? Come on, David, you know why. We have the poorest and weakest midfield in the Premier League.
Once that is considerably improved, both Richarlison and Calvert-Lewin will improve their goalscoring tally and become a pair that will take us forward. Dominic will get his England caps and increase his transfer fee, Richarlison will get more caps for Brazil, score more goals for them, but (in my opinion) will never become a world class player, it's just not in him.
I couldn't care less about England or Brazil at football, but those two players will do me for Everton.
54 Posted 14/07/2020 at 09:29:12
When we had Lukaku, he wasn't good enough either. If we sold Calvert-Lewin and signed Mbappe and Gabriel Jesus, there'd probably be something wrong with them both.
David, 40, your list of positive things you've been told about our players just highlights how often you're on here slagging them off.
56 Posted 14/07/2020 at 09:38:23
Or is Everton the exception because we are never near being top-four or Sky loved???
57 Posted 14/07/2020 at 09:46:11
That's it exactly.
58 Posted 14/07/2020 at 13:32:32
59 Posted 14/07/2020 at 13:49:55
60 Posted 14/07/2020 at 16:43:29
61 Posted 14/07/2020 at 22:43:46
“Bracketed him with the league's top scorersâ€. The OP didn't claim he had scored more than anyone. Or mention Calvert-Lewin.
He said, “Richarlison is coming close to being an amazing all-round goalscorer.â€
So yeah, you did bring Calvert-Lewin into it by making some reference to comments that two of your sparring partners have apparently made in the past about him, by drawing a comparison to Richarlison, based purely on goals scored.
It's all there in black and white in post #44. Anyway, I'll stop flogging this dead horse now.
62 Posted 14/07/2020 at 23:01:23
I don't think we will loose Calvert-Lewin to Barca or another top Premier League team.
63 Posted 14/07/2020 at 23:28:29
Richarlison is wasted at Everton and will continue to be without the support of better players. Calvert-Lewin tries hard but is lacking that bit of class and It's looking like Moise Kean and Walcott are not really favoured. We don't have any young guns ready to burst on the scene so Carlo has to look elsewhere.
Sadly, Richarlison will be looking to European soccer and, as Everton have failed miserably yet again, it won't be very long before a big team makes the right bid for him.
Hard to believe that even Burnley are likely to finish above Everton.
Everton will likely keep Calvert-Lewin for a few seasons more, as they did with Niasse, Sandro, Mirallas and Bolasie, as no other team thinks they are worth spending money on.
64 Posted 19/07/2020 at 16:27:44
If you are going to tell blatant porkies, it's probably a good idea not to draw attention to it.
I did not bring Calvert-Lewin into this debate, he'd already been mentioned six times before the post 44.
As you say... it's all there in black and white.
65 Posted 19/07/2020 at 16:49:57
Richarlison is the only player anywhere near his standard at Everton. The rest are way short. I doubt we'll be signing a striker in the summer and will remain mid-table or worse because of it.
66 Posted 19/07/2020 at 16:55:20
No porkies. I did not say you were the first person to mention Calvert-Lewin on this thread. You only have to re-read my first post on the thread (#45) to see that I acknowledged others mentioned him (positively).
I did say that you brought a comparison between Calvert-Lewin's and Richarlison's goals scored, for this season, into the thread, to discredit the OP. In fact, you felt you needed to say it on three different posts before I posted at all.
I did also say that goals scored are not the only barometer of how good a player is, which is what the OP was saying.
I don't really want to “do a Jay Wood†here (although I am now starting to see how these debates ensue) and have to quote posts line by line. Just read back the chronological order of the thread. You're either misreading, misconstruing, or just missing the point.
67 Posted 20/07/2020 at 21:37:18
Add Richarlison's tracking back and defensive duties... I don't think we overpaid for him like our expert thought we did! 㿔 million is a bargain!
Against a tough team to beat at home, I thought this was one of our best performances. Several players were at their best and Gomes looks like the player we saw glimpses of last year. Thought Keane and Branthwaite were very solid. Perhaps Branthwaite is our answer to a left-footed centre-back.
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1 Posted 10/07/2020 at 09:23:44
Ancelotti and Brands have to buy midfield quality to regenerate this team, and give Richarlison hope for the future.
Brands said he will target 3 quality players, these will determine our immediate future.
I think this summer transfer window is a watershed, get some quality players in and get into the top 6 next year. Failing in that will see our best player wanting out. The temptation of Barcelona or others will be far too much to resist.
The worst possible scenario is Barca or another CL club offers 100m + their deadwood next month. We lose our best and start player and get dead wood in return that doesn't want t be here and is unmotivated. Then the cash will be spunked again on top 6 deadwood like Lingard or some Arsenal cast off.
We have to hold him to his contract for next season and tell him to give Carlo a chance to build something. Carlo hasn't signed a player yet and the best we can hope for is a rejuvenated Ancelotti team next season with a fantastic new midfield.