Holgate: We're 100% behind the manager

Granted, we looked more likely to score in the first half but we failed to defend properly, lacked fitness and lost to a bang-average side.

Same shite, different mouthpiece.

Is that what you would expect, lads?

I have said it previously that the rot starts at the top in any business. At our club, we have major problems with mindset and ambition that runs through the club like a dose of Dehli Belly.

Everything is just so wrong here, from the CEO – Little Ms Dynamite, the Darling of the Soup Kitchen – to the owner, both of them are equally clueless. From the horrible kit supplier to the kit sponsor, both are equally nasty. The pathetic acquisition of players. (We let Allardyce spend £50M on Tosun and Walcott knowing full well Sam was on his way out.) All we ever buy is better teams' cast-offs that aren't good enough elsewhere. What kind of model is that? When was the last time we unearthed a gem or bought a good player on the cheap? Liverpool do it constantly.

The now totally shamefull and embarrassing Goodison Park is lucky to get a safety certificate these days... and don't get me started on the shambles that is Bramley-Moore Dock. 2016 We announced that we are leaving Goodison Park 12 months after Spurs announced they were leaving White Hart Lane. Look at where both these clubs are at now! Pathetic, isn't it?

Kenwright is still calling the shots and his grubby mitts are all over decisions. Denise Barrett-Baxendale is a case in point... Rooney coming back, new deals for over-the-hill players, etc. It turns my stomach.

Those of you out there not living in the City of Liverpool don't realise the extent to which this bullshit is affecting supporters. Kids now are shunning their family ties and disregarding their fathers' wishes and refusing to support Everton. Why should they? It's embarrassing going to school and facing the social media society. I know many examples of this happening, including within my own family.

It's a sorry mess and we are in grave danger, the longer Kenwright and his stooges run things. Silva must go now if only to give the fans and squad a boost. If we are supposed to be 7th best team in English football, we need a manager of similar status. Silva isn't in the Top 50 managers in England – and that says it all really.

That is the only way fans will realise no manager is going to make us great. No Director of Football is going to buy the players fans need to see.

Paul @11, wouldn't that be something!

Trust me, it would wake thousands up. The realisation would be revolutionary and everyone will know what is really required to take the club forward.

Moshiri's millions have been the biggest con and fools are still falling for it.

I have never known a team to capitulate late on as Everton do in so many games. They need a strong leader both on and off the field and until that happens they will be a nothing team.

Players like Holgate should keep their mouth's shut about the manager as they are always trying to feather their own nests, much like Henderson does about Southgate!!

I've posted before that anyone who was still at Turf Moor after the final whistle will confirm that Silva has lost the fans. He did at least try to acknowledge the away support after that game - his efforts to get the players to back him in doing that were shamefully rebuffed by most. Based on that, they are clearly not "100% behind the manager". Silva should have gone immediately after that Burnley game.

I wouldn't say we were "doing well" prior to that. We were against a really poor team yet every time they broke they had a clear run at our goal. This "blame the ref" pity party conveniently avoids discussions about our mistakes on the other two goals, profligate finishing, and lack of a midfield.

I reasonably presumed it was the week's wages, they're all self-serving scumbags come the end of the day.

I think you're mistaken and they probably are 100% behind him. Let's be real here. How many of these players would get in the Man City or Liverpool 11? Probably none.

It's unlikely they will win silverware here or anywhere. So if you're getting well paid, have a nice manager who is a soft touch and lets you get away with murder, why would you want him replaced with a hard ass since you're unlikely to win anything anyway.

Look at Chelsea? They win the league under Conte so from a fan's view you'd think the players would be happy. But no, they think he is too bossy so they get him fired and eventually see him replaced with a former player who lacks the experience or gravitas to berate them. Now they happily sit in 4th place with minimal expectations placed upon them and seemingly all is right in their world.

We are as predictable as we are shite! What a depressing position to be in.

The players we have bought who are not rejects are from relegation clubs so they also go in the same category.

And then, to top all that, we go for a relegation manager and wonder why we fold in so many games.

We just don't have the guile or tenacity as a team and, with the exception of Coleman, we don't have anyone who remotely appears to be a leader by example on the pitch.

I had supported Silva, but I now think we are looking like serious relegation candidates. He must know his time is up. Benitez for me, sorry.

Once again, I have had to fall out with fans for seeing all this coming and predicting how awful this season would be. How come I knew? How did I see the signings as not good enough? Not sufficient enough?

It's been absolutely horrible watching admiration for Moshiri simply because he isn't Kenwright and can pull a bigger loan in. The team has been worse and worse since he came.

Kenwright's record buy was £28 million and biggest sale was also £28 million. And people love Moshiri for what??

Tearing us apart.

“Problem is we've got City and Arsenal coming up soon away, the only positive is that we've got Everton at home in between “.

"Fuck me," I thought, as I slinked away sheepishly.

Whilst there have been flaws in selection, substitutes and tactics, I do also believe we have been a tad unlucky at times (none more so than the ludicrous VAR).

This team (like most teams) badly needs some confidence and I'm hoping two home games might be the tonic; win both of those and we're in the last eight in the cup and mid-table above Tottenham. Lose them both and it may signal the end for Marco.

"One of the problems I see is that we are buying other clubs' rejects so, if they haven't got the determination to get in the other clubs' plans, why should we think they've got the determination and mental character to succeed in ours?"

That's pretty unfair considering the pecking order at those clubs. No amount of "determination and mental character" is going to see Digne start over Jordi Alba, as one example. C'mon man.

This Club clearly needs to clarify it's position in this city!!! Either is a professional Football Club, or a local charity!

This Club needs winners, not losers, or has-beens. We want success on the field, we want silverware, not accolades for being a charity... let's try singing that at matches, and see what response we get from other supporters!!!

My Club has become a fucking laughing stock, and there are supporters out there and on this site who seem to think that is acceptable, who live in a fantasy world, and dream of success just around the corner when Mr Silva gets it right!!

Dream on!! This man is taking us down, and yet some people stand by like the passengers on the Titanic, watching the band as it sank – and assume everything will be alright. Time for this prick to go!!!

Fair points but, as I said, he's lost the (away) fans and the players singularly failed to back him post-match at Burnley.

They may feel comfortable but that failure plus abject performances during games suggest to me that they aren't sufficiently behind him to help him keep his job and thus for them to keep him as their boss.

All of the above have ability but, when the going gets tough, would you want to bring any one of them with you to The Alamo?? We are a club full of weak-minded players who are ready to fall apart at the drop of a hat.

Fills me with such hope moving forwards.

FFS! 🤦‍♂️

Pul-eeze. If my eyeballs roll any higher they'll fall out on the floor.

He doesn't even try to disguise his amateurishness. Terming DBB "little miss dynamite" is cringeworthy for a so-called top football club and today he's reportedly unsuccessfully offered his personal money to try to save plucky little Bury FC from oblivion. Well, if he didn't know what he was attempting to do was contrary to basic football law he shows himself to be incompetent to lead any club, never mind one of the biggest. On the other hand he's cynical enough to try to buy some more "Good Ol' Kenwright" publicity all the while safe in the knowledge that his, erm, "generosity" was never going to cost him a penny. Only a charlatan would do that though.

Only when he's totally disassociated with us can we start to re-build, if we get lucky with a manager and coaches.

Mark its nowhere near as bad taking a Barca reject when its so hard to get into their team. Its awful buying struggling teams rejects though. Or buying the best from the bottom half.

What cobblers. Last week was where our level should be at considering the money we’ve spent and caps between them. Really well at Brighton isn’t accurate. And before those games we were utter shite. He either doesn’t understand how bad we’ve been this season or it’s a cliche he has been taught to say by media team.

That's a bit unfair on Allardyce, he never spent the money on Tosun certainly and Walcott I'm not too sure.

It was our wonderful DoF at the time went out and bought Tosun. I remember Allardyce's thoughts on the aquisition, "We need a forward, he was the best for the price in this window", it was a Christmas window and Big Sam didn't seem to happy with what he was getting for Christmas.

I'm with you on everything else, especially Miss Dynamite. She's walked into a top flight club with no experience of ever running a specialist business like it. I've met her type before, they can gab and reassure, she won't rock the boat for those around her, I can see why she got the job.

This Moshiri / Brands / Kenwright setup is beginning to look very unhealthy for the club.

Moshiri chose Koeman and Silva, he hasn't go a F*****G clue, brand bought this Kid Kean for the future, there might not be one if we go on like we are, Brands should have bought a genuine goal threat. Kenwright, I really don't know what kind of influence has anymore.

Even if we do get a decent manager it won't be too long before he realises the problems the club has upstairs.

Tony, excellent post.

Martin #50, certainly not, but Rom's 87 goals, Siggy's regular Prem top 10 in distance covered and Richarlison's still leading the club in tackles by a wide margin hardly bespeak a lack of character in my view.

All Rodgers? Or better talent evaluation & scouting?

"Distance covered" doesn't tell us a lot. Southall covered no ground lol. But seriously, while Sig puts in some running, he doesn't seem to put himself in useful positions to where he actually gets the ball. He does a lot of tracking back then he isn't in place to launch a counter attack.

Our problem is we have a manager who consistently shows by his selections, formations and substitutions that he is totally out of his depth.

Everyone says he's a great coach. He may well be but he certainly isn't even a bang average manager. Colin Harvey was reputed to be a great coach and the brains behind Kendall but he wasn't a great manager. (Having said that we'd be overjoyed to be where his team was when he was sacked).

Given some of the woeful performances and capitulatons, just in this calander year, Silva would have been out on his ear at most Premier clubs. Why he is still here is worryingly baffling.

Kieran, true, it's pretty hard to track back and then put yourself in useful attacking positions at the same time. If Richarlison is leading us in tackles, he ain't gonna lead us in goals.

While it could be argued that confidence and self belief should come from within, it can also be attributable to lack of faith in the Manager, and not having a clear remit.

I believe this is borne out by the almost weekly 'votes of support' by a rotation of players, which should have signalled his departure after the appalling run of results we have had.

Tomorrow night will tell us a lot about both the Manager in his selection, and about the seriousness in which he treats this Cup. I personally see it as a reasonable chance to at least progress to the next round with a bit of application, then who knows what the 'hat' will provide as potential next opponents.

I have nothing against signing Kean. I am prepared to wait 3 years to see the real player in him but to buy him as a main striker or without buying a readymade striker is absolute dire.

Its awful practice as a premier league club in the top half. Look at Man United Arsenal and Spurs, only Chelsea and Leicester have looked to take advantage of their situations and Wolves are better equipped to get results against them.

What have we done? Its as bad as its gets for me because larger amounts have been spent to see us go backwards and everyone puts faith and praise in men that have never had a solitary feeling for Everton.

I would whip these lazy set of barstewards into shape, be in at 9, first team talk would be guest appearance by Gray, Reid Southall and Van den Hauwe for good measure.

Headphones and mobile phones banned from the dressing room and a simple game plan delivered, defenders defend, midfielders hit anything that moves and forwards bust a gut to get into the box.

None of this marking space, you look for the player with the ball, if you see a team mate in danger, get in there to help out, anyone going down like a fairy with minimal contact gets the old bucket of ice cold water and sponge treatment.

If a decision goes against you, man up and try and put it right instead of self pitying.

I would make the game simple, none of this three pages of tactics on a writing pad.

Play the game to your strengths, get out there, win the ball, beat the player and move forward, none of this tippy tippy sideways and backwards shite.

You may be right Paul, but I am sure a few fellow Evertonians would at least give it a damn good go.

How daft do you want to appear? Bless your heart.

Please just keep your trap zipped and start producing performances on the pitch that pick us up a few points. Otherwise we are headed for the Championship.

I'm totally fed up with reading the absolute drivel that these idiot players keep spouting. The more intelligent ones will keep their heads down.

Paul #73, and don't forget to have them train with wet leather balls to make them tougher.

Meantime DCL has 5 in 5.

Don't joke. Martinez was in the news yesterday saying he has "unfinished business with Everton" and is insisting he could still make a success of it. He will have to get in line with Moyes who last week said he is "close to the club," when asked about returning. No news on Mike Walker or Gordon Lee yet.

As for mental determination/fortitude, some do, some don't. I can't recall players like Digne ever giving up. Same goes for most of our newer guys. The older, pre-Brands players? They give up before the matches begin.

To me, your observation that the players don't have it isn't wrong, you just picked the wrong players.

As an Evertonian that lives 12,000 miles away, but was brought up to be a rabid blue by my dad, I cannot imagine the misery fans like you are suffering at this time. You deserve much, much better than what you are being dished up.

This club needs someone to grab it by the scruff of the neck and shake it very hard.

How many more players are going to give the manager the dreaded vote of confidence before Moshiri admits that he was wrong?

Moshiri grows weaker, inept and more clueless by the week.

He did. I think of Lee as a Moyesy type. Breathe of fresh air at first but he seemed to stagnate and have a glass ceiling mentality. Still better than most we've had though.

I remember at Everton I was looking for a second striker to play with Bob Latchford, and I went to watch Chester Reserves and a young boy called Ian Rush playing as an attacking midfielder.

"The next night, I was at Dumbarton and saw a raw striker called Graeme Sharpe. I went back to the chairman and told him that, paired together, they could be one of the most exciting partnerships in English football.

"Chester wanted £300,000 for Rush, so I signed Graeme for £80,000 because the board said I couldn't have them both.

Wow, l didn't know that. As much as l loved Sharpie (and its weird saying that. Maybe its an age thing but the last player l really looked forwards to seeing was Arteta). Maybe we got the wrong man!

Maybe?

And the draw for the quarter finals:
Crawley will play Liverpool
Oxford will play Aston Villa
The winners of these two ties will meet in the semi final. Meanwhile the other semi final will feature the winners of
Chelsea versus Leicester
and Man City versus Everton.
The Man City Everton game will be trialing a new VAR system that only affects decisions which could go against Everton. Collina will referee with Clattenburg and Clive Thomas on the sidelines.

Was that one in the FA cup?

If we beat Watford? Haha.

Of course we will bet Watford. A game we should win, and it'll stay the hand of the axe-slayer for Marco.

The following game we will lose.

Rinse and repeat, and on and on it goes.

You also forgot to mention with your Ref lineup that Lee Mason will be in the VAR booth.

You won’t see a better one than that.

Its a Biblical scale the demise of EFC and consistent crap officials giving crooked descisions for decades plus now VAR.

The curse of Old Nick, and they get away with everything would go against other teams.

You make your own luck, and I fear this rot is terminal, unless some serious recovery plan is launched as for me football and what it means and this Everton squad, have forgotten their purpose and meaning, and their confidence is eroded to shreds.

Tomorrow we shall see what happens.

It the next round we need to worry about because there wont be any teams starting with a W.

David 85, You got what you deserved.

Christy 80, I planned to go over tomorrow but no Tuesday flights from Knock this time of year. Might be a blessing in disguise. Hope you bring “the luck of the Irish”.

Sharpie was better than Ian Rush. I’ll fight anyone who says otherwise.

Absolutely brilliant

Spot on with his total destruction of Kenwright

At this very moment the job description for the new manager is being written

It includes the phrase “Duncan Ferguson local legend will form a key part of your coaching team”

Bottom line is, 6 defeats in 10 is getting pretty damn close to getting any manager at any club sacked.

Lucky for Silva that we are (still) in the cup and are (just) 3 points from 7th and 6 from 5th. Season can be turned around.

It's one thing for fans to blame a poor decision for a loss, but for a player to do it just screams out a lack of professionalism.

I've coached local club rugby and if a player even mentioned a ref's decision at training I'd be ripping strips off him. This clown has said it to the national press! Just words of a loser.

There's only one clown if you actually think that Holgate said any of this. Has it not occurred to you that no player has had consecutive opinions posted?

All it points to is that which the club is worried about which is almost exclusively in defence of the Manager, his tactics and why we didn't win the last match.

I wasn't at the game but vividly remember it on TV. I had this sickening feeling Rush would score despite being well past it. I am pretty sure Dalglish was their manager at the time just to compound the misery.