Everton 0 - 1 Chelsea

Depleted Everton kick off the 2022-23 season with a tricky fixture against last season's third-place finishers Chelsea and they'll do it without a recognised striker.

Dele Alli had been expected to be in the lineup in some capacity, either as a "false 9" or in central midfield but the former Tottenham man was only named among the substitutes once more as Dwight McNeil was handed his debut in a front three rounded out by Demarai Gray and Anthony Gordon.

At the back, James Tarkowski also made his first appearance for Everton alongside the fit-again Yerry Mina and Ben Godfrey and there was also a first Premier League start for Nathan Patterson.

The Blues fans once again welcomed the team bus to Goodison Park in fine style and plenty of blue smoke. And it was glorious sunshine for a bumper crowd inside the ground and in fine voice to start a new season thankfully in the Premier League.  

Chelsea got things started but Everton won an early free-kick that was delivered rather poorly, however Everton continued to play up, a looping cross poorly headed wide by Doucouré. Everton looked to play forward and moved the ball around well enough but were driven back to half-way before Chelsea stole possession. 

Tarkowski was a little too strong on Sterling, the set-piece met by Havertz and fortunately directed to Pickford. Sterling tried to break through but literally ran into and bounced off Yerry Mina. Chelsea continued to apply pressure. A ridiculous back-pass by Godfrey went behind but Pickford pushed it back in play direct to Havertz who was running in when Godfrey went scything into him, as players seem to do after they make an idiotic mistake, and ridiculously injured himself... apparently seriously given the long treatment and lack of replays. 

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On came the stretcher, off went Godfrey with his right leg in splints, adding even more headaches to Lampard's injury list with the season barely 10 minutes old, while Holgate was called off the bench to replace him. A series of four Chelsea corners followed, one needing a low save by Pickford, before the last was overhit and out of play. 

On the resulting Everton attack, a nice ball in from Gray went right over Gordon's high leap.  At the other end, a moment of comedy when sandwiched Sterling on the ground with the ball trapped beneath him. Mykolenko played a wonderful crossfield ball that Gordon won Everton's first corner from but went over everyone, Mykolenko sending it back in and a decent header from Tarkowski had to be flicked over the bar by Mendy. 

Good defending by Patterson resulted in Gray giving away a corner and another followed but Everton eventually broke out, Iwobi to Mykolenko who crossed for Gordon but his prowess at heading such balls probably needs further work. Chelsea were again trying to work it in but this time Havertz could not get past Mina. 

With Sterling running forward at speed and Mina struggling to keep pace, Iwobi fouled the new Chelsea man for another dangerous free-kick, headed clear. Corners 9, 10 and 1 followed for Chelsea with Everton struggling to break out, Koulabily chasing Gordon and fouling him but escaping a yellow, much to the annoyance of the Goodison crowd.   

Chelsea sporadically built another attack looking for yet another corner, denied this time.  Gordon and Doucoure almost linked up as the big man surged into the Chelsea area but Everton were under pressure again, but defending robustly. 

Gray had a great chance to break forward and play in Gordon but his pass was atrociously bad. What an opportunity that would have been. Chelsea had the ball in the Everton net soon after but Sterling was offside before a shot rebounded out to him off Pickford. At the other end, Gordon tried to dribble in but an outstretched leg stalled him. 

With 8 minutes of added time due to Godfrey's on-field treatment, Everton's lively but ultimately unproductive play continued to thwart the visitors without looking as effective as they should have been when in possession going forward.  Another string of Chelsea corners needed defending again.  

Pawson gives Chelsea a ridiculous free-kick when Sterling slipped in front of Tarkowski. Then Doucoure clumsily bundled into Chilwell, just stupid defending. A simple penalty with Mina trying hard to disrupt things and seeing yellow... equally stupid! Jorginho rolled it in very easily to give the visitors a half-time lead thanks to Everton's traditional charitable nature. 

Everton restarted the match but the ball was soon down their end as the Chelsea pressure resumed. But the ball broke forward and Gray looked to be in with a chance but made hard work of it, Silva deflecting his shot behind and the corner wasted by being overhit. But Everton worked it forward again through Gordon and McNeil, winning a corner. And it was Keystone Cops stuff with no cleans hot until Mendy finally collected. 

McNeil did well to steal the ball and feed Doucouré but Gordon could not get a clean shot on the ball that was played into him. Chelsea delayed another throw-in and this time got yellow. Chelsea won yet another corner, cleared by Tarkowski. Everton were sinking deeper and deeper and Frank Lampard decided to make a change, Dele Alli on for NcNeil.

Tarkowski picked out Mykolenko with a lovely ball but he got his shot over Mendy all wrong. Gray got forward on the other wing but could not force the cross. Patterson gave away a silly free-kick for a completely unnecessary shove. 

Mina then collapsed in a heap with cramp... for another ridiculously long break in what is a distinctly non-flowing game before Ruben Vinagre replaced him for his debut. When the game finally got going again, Chelsea had a free-kick that was cleared. Everton played it around but Chelsea looked happy to sit on their lead.. Patterson broke forward and fed Dele Alli a beautiful ball for sweeping into the net first time... but instead he falls over then kicks it wide.  

Another long break for more Chelsea changes, really milking the new rules! The game had gone largely flat with some faintly promising cameos from Dele, but Iwobi giving the ball back. Such shockingly poor football from Everton!  Iwobi did marginally better trying to release Dele Alli but the attention on him was too intense. 

Loftus-Cheek got to run forward and Mykolenko was penalized and shown yellow for barely brushing his arm, and a free-kick given away just outside the Everton penalty area, which James wellies over the Everton bar. Chelsea finally tried to score, and almost did, Mykolenko cross smartly to deflect Sterling's shot wide... for another corner, caught by Pickford. 

Yet another stoppage, this time a medical emergency in the stand. 

The game eventually restarted and Patterson tried to launch an attack but it was cleared... leading to yet another Chelsea corner, cleared. Everton tried to play forward again, and eventually won a free-kick when Pulisic fouled Gordon. An incredible 10 minutes of added time shown! Everton seemed to realise that this would e their last chance and started to play a bit... only for Thiago Silva to go down now with cramp or a tight hamstring. This is getting just ridiculous!

There was some more football played, if you can call it that, with free-kicks, taken quickly, then recalled and taken again. Then a silly bit of nonsense where Holgate gets a late yellow card, then another stoppage while Gallagher comes on. More stops and starts... throw-in, free-kick, yellow card for Cucurella kicking the ball away. 

Scorer:  Jorginho (pen:45+8')

Everton: Pickford, Godfrey (17 Holgate), Mina [Y:45+6'] (70' Vinagre) Tarkowski, Patterson, Mykolenko [Y:81], Doucouré, Iwobi, Gordon, McNeil (60' Dele Alli), Gray
Subs not Used: Begovic, Keane, Allan, Gbamin, Warrington, Mills

Chelsea: Mendy, Azpilicueta, Thiago Silva, Koulibaly (75' Cucurella [90+3']), James [Y:56'], Kante, Jorginho (90+9' Gallagher), Chilwell( 65' Pulisic), Mount (65' Loftus-Cheek),  Havertz (75' Broja), Sterling.
Subs not Used: Arrizabalaga, Kovacic, Chalobah, Ziyech.

Referee: Craig Pawson
VAR: John Brooks

Attendance: 39,254


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Jim Harrison
1 Posted 06/08/2022 at 16:44:36
Alli on the bench? Didn't see that
Paul Hewitt
2 Posted 06/08/2022 at 16:54:16
Going to struggle for goals.
Kieran Kinsella
3 Posted 06/08/2022 at 16:57:43
Jim

Yeah I assumed he’d start up top. If he can’t get a game now, what chance once DCL, Rondon are back and we have the two new midfielders?

Tony Waring
4 Posted 06/08/2022 at 16:58:02
Talking of goals I see Simms has bagged 2 for Sunderland !!!!!!!
Dave Abrahams
5 Posted 06/08/2022 at 17:02:50
Two in midfield?
Neil Lawson
6 Posted 06/08/2022 at 17:03:39
Beat me to it Tony. No striker playing or on the bench. DCL injured. Rondon not adequate. Simms off to Sunderland. 2 goals. Where is the sense ? Let's see what this evening brings us.
Christy Ring
7 Posted 06/08/2022 at 17:06:36
Big Dunc in the studio, hope we don’t struggle in middle of the park
Mike Morgan
8 Posted 06/08/2022 at 17:11:24
I thought Simms looked good in his one game he had v Chelsea.
He leads the line well and knows how to score. He could have slotted in and kept the system the same as for DCL. Big decision letting him go if we don't replace him with someone better before the window closes. Just saw Lampards interview on Sky. He already looks like he has the devil on his back !!!
Oliver Molloy
9 Posted 06/08/2022 at 17:29:03
Duncan Ferguson just tipped Everton to win at least 2 nil.
Everton front three are better than the Chelsea defence.
Hope he's right!
Mike Morgan
10 Posted 06/08/2022 at 17:46:00
Godfrey injured. Stupid back pass, stupid recovery tackle when ball was out. We just don't help ourselves :-(
Pete Hughes
11 Posted 06/08/2022 at 18:27:49
No need for the Chelsea keeper and back four to bother coming out for the 2nd half?
Alan J Thompson
12 Posted 06/08/2022 at 18:32:46
That formation is just not working. The defence has been haphazard with out being desperate but once we get over the halfway line we haven't got a clue with all the wingers trying to get wide but not knowing what to do with it as there is no focal point.
Without the ball Gordon, Gray and McNeil just wander around and Gordon still can't head a ball and just when you think we've made it through to halftime dickhead Doucoure has to manhandle someone inside the penalty box. We have to get some sort of target man, line leader on the park.
Kieran Kinsella
13 Posted 06/08/2022 at 18:35:38
I saw a lot of positives. Given our record on defending corners last year we did well to keep out what 12 or 13 first half. Some of the passing and movement going forward was better also. But we had some foolish mistakes, Godfrey's back pass, Duke's ridiculous foul, Mina's unnecessary card. The ref didn't help any with some non calls on fouls for and against us. But Gray is frustrating giving the ball away too easily and Gordon is running into dead-ends. Not seen much of McNeill yet. I was hoping to keep it 0-0 to 60 mins then chuck on Alli and go for it. But I might bring him on sooner for any one of the front three. At least he can hold the ball up better.
Justin Doone
14 Posted 06/08/2022 at 18:38:51
Pickford very lucky. Still a flapper.

Doucoure hasn't learnt not to tackle with his arms. It's not rugby. Get the silly sausage off the pitch. He could have cost us the match.

No excuses for for poor players. We need better, a high standard and consistency is needed.

Ciarán McGlone
15 Posted 06/08/2022 at 18:43:37
Not the worst.
Arild Andersen
16 Posted 06/08/2022 at 19:03:51
That panic shove from Doucoure was so, so typical. Attacks soaked up, adjusted after getting a starter injured, just wait for halftime….but no. Not us. Extremely silly from Doucoure.
Ernie Baywood
17 Posted 06/08/2022 at 19:40:12
Silly for the penalty. But hard to see where a goal would come from for us. That's the bigger issue.
Jim Bennings
18 Posted 06/08/2022 at 19:40:48
Tepid shite.

Felt like a preseason friendly to be honest, even the atmosphere was flat as a pancake, almost like the majority of the support have given up the ghost.

It's apparent that none of those attacking players out there are ever gonna be the answer in terms of goals.

If we don't sign at least two or three quality attacking players this month then we'll struggle for 30 goals.

New season, same old shite problems.

Sean Roe
19 Posted 06/08/2022 at 19:41:33
completely and utterly toothless.

Jim Bennings
20 Posted 06/08/2022 at 19:41:54
Gana and Onana will be good signings, so too would Conor Coady (I've officially given up on Mina now).

But none of them are the answer to our lack of goals.

Tony Hill
21 Posted 06/08/2022 at 19:42:48
Iwobi was outstanding and Patterson very promising. Otherwise, there is nothing to say.
Kieran Kinsella
22 Posted 06/08/2022 at 19:42:54
I think there are certainly positive signs here with the defence, the passing. But, we still have obvious issues e.g. Mina is made of glass, Godfrey, Duke making the same kind of mistakes we get from Holgate and Keane. But if we get the two new midfielders in then we should see far less of the likes of Duke, Gomes, Tom etc. If the Coady rumors are true then great! But we do need a scoring forward, as opposed to Gordon, Gray, McNeil all of whom get into forward positions but seldom score or even get an assist. Neither Gueye nor Onana offer anything creatively so as of now our only goal threat is from corners. In that respect it could be dicey with lots of 0-0s and 1-0s which is the kind of form that saw Villa almost relegated a few seasons ago because missing those chances turns draws into defeats and wins into draws. But, overall I feel we are moving in the right direction but we need to make sure we fill in those gaps before the window shuts and preferrably asap.
Alan J Thompson
23 Posted 06/08/2022 at 19:46:47
A bit of a nothing game, Everton without an attack and Chelsea good at keeping possession but never creating anything. We did however have a couple of chances which needed a first time effort, most notably Dele Alli, rather than trying to put a foot on and controlling the ball.

On the basis of that display nobody should be in doubt as to whether Patterson or Mykolenko are good enough and indeed Tarkowski and Mina looked good but it might be interesting to see them against an old fashioned English centre forward.

We really do need a striker rather than three wingers none of whom seem to know how to score. Much work to be done and difficult to see how two defensive midfielders are going to improve that.

Jim Bennings
24 Posted 06/08/2022 at 19:47:11
I don't think you'll even get a combined 10 goals out of Gordon,Gray and McNeil if we are realistic.

None of them are consistent and have end product.

Gray does something good then just looks absolute shite for an hour.

Gordon seems to have developed a rather annoying habit of just running into blind alleys all much John Oster-esq.

McNeil needs game time but his overall career total isn't promising so far to suggest a goalscoring player.

Dele Alli is at a stage where this is probably his last season in football if he hasn't got the hunger for it, I think he'll quit the game.

Robert Tressell
25 Posted 06/08/2022 at 19:47:59
Jim, I think you're right. There are no goals in that First XI. We obviously need a striker and hopefully we'll get one soon.

I'm catching up as been travelling back from holiday today. It sounds like the full backs did well - along with Iwobi in patches. But is the 3 man defence working or is it still looking like a muddle of defenders with too few in midfield?

Tony Everan
26 Posted 06/08/2022 at 19:48:26
We played ok, We looked tougher and more organised. Chelsea were not much better than us and if we had a goalscorer the game would have been a 1-1. With no one to finish chances goals are going to be very thin on the ground. All hands to the pump in recruitment now to get us a couple of players who can score goals.
Will Mabon
27 Posted 06/08/2022 at 19:49:59
Post 25 - the man with no name
Joe McMahon
28 Posted 06/08/2022 at 19:50:22
Kieran, we haven't scored goals since Lukaku left 5 years ago. It's never been addressed.
Steve Brown
29 Posted 06/08/2022 at 19:50:52
The shape and organisation of the team was good, effort was excellent but we lacked a focal point for the attack. Patterson and Mykolenko were good, Holgate was decent when he came on and Iwobi was excellent in central midfield.

We need a striker.

Tony Hill
30 Posted 06/08/2022 at 19:50:53
Iwobi created 3 good chances - one very good - and his use of the ball, until he tired a bit, was exemplary.

Kieran Kinsella
31 Posted 06/08/2022 at 19:52:24
25 Whoever you arernrnI thought the back 3 worked but the difficulty was that Chelsea played the same way and so Myko and Patt were up against Chilwell and James who love to get forward so with Chelsea dominating possession it was harder for our wingbacks to get forward although Myko did nicely a few times in the first half. I think aginst other sides playing 4-3-3 or 4-4-2 or whatever we will see more of an attacking threat from Patt and Myko but of course we still need someone in the box to finish those chances.
Will Mabon
32 Posted 06/08/2022 at 19:53:29
I agree, Tony.

I know there was no legislating for DCL's injury, but still very amateur to have no cover or one of our loaned players available - and the money excuse doesn't fly, in view of other signings we've made.

The team spirit and effort looked so much better at least.

Jim Bennings
33 Posted 06/08/2022 at 19:57:29
Number 25

Invisible like our attack lol

Tony Twist
34 Posted 06/08/2022 at 19:58:45
Same old, same old. Lukaku scenario no 2. Bunch of idiots still running this club. Why send Sims out on loan until at least Rondon is back from suspension. Self infliction. Everton are the most stupid of football clubs. Embarassing and unprofessional. Who is going to score the goals when we have lost the majority of our goal scorers. Why isn't somebody highlight this huge risk. Everton never stop making their fans embarrassed to support them.
Ciarán McGlone
35 Posted 06/08/2022 at 19:59:01
Second half Lampard fluffed his lines. Persisting with that defensive line up while a goal down is criminal. Mina going off (the useless fraud) should've been the cue for an extra midfielder. rnrn
Pat Kelly
36 Posted 06/08/2022 at 19:59:34
Bunch of misfits and injuries. Two out today. DCL out before starting. And we’ll lose more players along the way. This squad is now more ill-equipped than last season. Relegation now more likely.
Colin Glassar
37 Posted 06/08/2022 at 20:00:35
Best performance since the first game of last season imo. Let’s get real. We hustled and bustled until the very last minute today. We passed the ball crisply and to each other (hallelujah).

We weren’t outplayed. Our heads didn’t drop. We desperately need a goal scorer to build on that game but it was night and day compared to the shite served up last season.

Yesterday I was nervous. Tonight I feel a lot mor confident and look forward to our next game.

Ian Edwards
38 Posted 06/08/2022 at 20:03:27
Ellis Simms should have started that game and Gordon could have played his normal and more effective position. Not sure what Doucoure was doing for the pen. Absolutely ridiculous. Hopefully he gets dropped for Onana.
Will Mabon
39 Posted 06/08/2022 at 20:04:19
Colin, I agree, in the context of our situation, which can only improve.

Maybe I'm unwell, but I kind of enjoyed the game.

Paul Hewitt
40 Posted 06/08/2022 at 20:05:12
That was much better. Anyone saying anything different hasn't a clue.
Kieran Kinsella
41 Posted 06/08/2022 at 20:05:26
Colin

The last time I saw these play was in person in Minnesota so my anxiety level was greatly reduced by what was a professional (for the most part) performance against a team that while out-of-sorts have the caliber to be title contenders. I'm a bit perplexed by some of the relegation comments being made on here on the back of that. It's not like we got ripped apart.

Jim Bennings
42 Posted 06/08/2022 at 20:06:08
Colin

Whatever you've had a drink or snort of let's have some lol

I felt more positive yesterday but today just reminded me why we will barely score any goals again.

It was organised against a half bothered Chelsea team, they didn't get out of their comfort zone, didn't need to.

We won't be scoring goals to win many games.

Wait, the Tree (Rondon) is back next week? No?

Julian Exshaw
43 Posted 06/08/2022 at 20:07:10
Rubbish game it was. Shocking.Constant free kicks, stoppages, no rhythm and little or no skill or flair on show.
Under the circumstances, we played alright'ish' but what can you do without a striker? Gordon and Iwobi worked hard with little end product, Patterson improved as the game went on; I liked Tarkowski at the back ( he could be a great signing), McNeil was quiet and all the others were six out of tens.
It looks like two new midfield players will be coming in but a striker is a must (even if DCL hadn't been injured).
We need to hang in there for now because this will be a tough, long season I fear.
Rick Tarleton
44 Posted 06/08/2022 at 20:09:17
I lost my bet: Godfrey and Mina to join DCL on the long term injury list before half time. Mina lasted for almost three quarters of the game. Where do we get such players from? Iwobi tried, Patterson looked good with the ball, Tarkowski looked the part, but honestly, did we really threaten?

Gordon ran his socks off, but he wasn't going to be the focal attacker, Gray was Gray, neat feet, no strength and not really a football brain.

The penalty was so Everton, a mistake, Holgate followed the dummy runner, Doucoure panicked when he'd have been better to hope the angle and Pickford would do the job.It wasn't the slaughter of the innocents, but it wasn't really a game in which we deserved to end up with a point.

Joe McMahon
45 Posted 06/08/2022 at 20:11:37
Ian, I agree. But someone on this website said he is crap and never make it at Everton! I disagree, he's no Aguero (we know), but he can strike a ball better than DCL.

Mykolenko again was reassuring today, and as Digne had been in poor form for over a year. It was a good decision to let him go to Villa.

Will Mabon
46 Posted 06/08/2022 at 20:12:26
Whatever else was seen or whatever anyone's opinion of the game, there was more passing, movement and energy than for a long time.

Last season we looked a flaccid mix of scared and not bothered. Today we tried to play a football match. A much better base to build on.

No doubt I'll be moaning at some stage of the season but I'm not starting yet.

Ian Edwards
47 Posted 06/08/2022 at 20:16:03
Why on earth the bottom 14 clubs voted with the top 6 to allow 5 subs was utter madness. Turkeys voted for Christmas.
Colin Wordsworth
48 Posted 06/08/2022 at 20:18:21
Positive performance really, played far better out of the back than last season. Thought Gray was poor throughout and Gordon not in the game second half. Obvious need for a striker/pacey forward. I feel the game proves that any money spare needs to be spent on the forward line...
Bill Gall
49 Posted 06/08/2022 at 20:20:07
Why wasn't the corner given before Godfreys injury, the ball was at least a yard over the line when Pickford put it back in play.rn I think with the 2 new midfielders signed on we will improve in that area and it is needed. rnThere was plenty of effort put into today's game but no end result and the only positive was with the amount of corners and crosses that were put in that is usually our downfall, it seems the extra coaching has paid off.rnWe all new that we would struggle for a goal and can only hope that the club has someone lined up to come in before the end of the transfer window. rnOverall it wasn't great but I still think the players should be thanked for their fight against a top 6 team. Another point was our 2 young full backs dont look out of place.
Matthew Williams
50 Posted 06/08/2022 at 20:20:16
A poor game all round, why we persist with three at the back is beyond me and why is Mina and Kenshite still at our club??

We need some serious firepower up top ASAP and need to get back to basics... like 4-4-2.

Tony Hill
51 Posted 06/08/2022 at 20:20:50
Correct, Ian, @47, I think it's going to prove a disastrous change all round.

The absence of goal threat is, of course, the main problem. If we don't get at least one serious striker in then we will be in massive trouble. That's obvious.

Colin Malone
52 Posted 06/08/2022 at 20:23:39
Takes a couple of games to get back up to speed. BUT Frank has got to tell Anthony Gordon, he is not as good as he thinks he is. Very disappointed in Gordon.
Jack Convery
53 Posted 06/08/2022 at 20:23:48
Frank has only 3 experienced CBs for the Villa game - Holgate, Keane and Tarkowski, so Coady must be signed before next weekend. Mykolenko could do a job if called on, as he did today but I prefer him at Left Wing Back.

Broja or whoever must be signed by Tuesday to give us a CF option. Rondon can play 15 minutes in an emergency.

John Keating
54 Posted 06/08/2022 at 20:25:26
Nothing changes. Officials were shocking

Negatives. Chelsea, for a supposed top 4 side they were shit and there for the taking
Gray wasn’t just poor he was abysmal
Gordon and McNeil very poor.

Positives. Iwobi best player on the pitch, never thought I’d say that!
Tark, Myko and Patterson very good as was Holgate when he came on

One stupid mistake and we come away with nothing

Hopefulky we can get a bit of creativity and another striker in
If we do I doubt this season will be as bad as last

Colin Glassar
55 Posted 06/08/2022 at 20:29:14
Jack, Rondon can only walk for 15 mins in an emergency.
Jim Bennings
56 Posted 06/08/2022 at 20:30:18
Gray has been more down than up since December last year.

He had a thunderous start to his Everton career but he's showing now why he's never been able to nail down a club.

I'm afraid at this moment I haven't been able to jump on the Gordon bandwagon either.
I see a player that runs lots but I don't particularly see anything at the end of it, I don't see craft or a football brain, I don't see anything more than a John Oster or Dan Gosling at this moment.

We big players up too early.

George Cumiskey
57 Posted 06/08/2022 at 20:32:18
For me defence sound midfield a bit light up front besides Gordon poor, Onana for Doucouré would be an improvement, over all not too disappointed, one chance for Chelsea and they took it because of that dickhead Doucouré !

58 Posted 06/08/2022 at 20:38:34
A pretty acceptable performance. When GP does not boo the team at the final whistle you know the effort was there. A decent debut from Patterson and Tarkowski and I actually thought Holgate looked pretty composed when he came on. Rumours were he was going to be sold if Coady came in, but I think both Keane and Holgate need to stay now that Godfrey is out, for the long term I assume. Hoping that Gueye and Onana are fit and ready for next week. Whilst scoring goals may not be as easy task this season I think the defence with Tarkowski and the incoming defensive midfielders means we wont be loosing no where as many games as last season. We should be ok this seaon!
Brian Williams
59 Posted 06/08/2022 at 20:38:53
Just home from the game and I have to say I think we were robbed.
We had much the better chances and more of them.
We are a club that has loads of luck, unfortunately it's all fucking bad.
Not gonna slag any player but have to (and I never thought I'd ever do this) laud Iwobi who had, for me, his best game in an Everton shirt.
For all their money and their supposed stars Chelsea were poor.
Rob Jones
60 Posted 06/08/2022 at 20:45:38
Reminded here of why I much prefer Lyndon's match reports. This is just angry nonsense.
Terry Farrell
61 Posted 06/08/2022 at 20:45:46
Please stop using Rondoms name on this site he is a total irrelevance. Does anyone think that had he been available he would have caused Chelseas defence any problems at all? Struth
Mick Conalty
62 Posted 06/08/2022 at 20:46:57
Usual suspects on the injury list. Same old lack of firepower.
Boring Boring Boring 🥱
Raymond Fox
63 Posted 06/08/2022 at 20:49:37
Injury wise we are carrying on from last season. Mina is a sick note we know that, whos going to buy him? Shame about Godfrey, that looks like a long term injury, are we jinxed or what.We did ok against a top side, but didnt really threaten a lot.We have reinforcements arriving and there will be more, so I'm expecting better as the season progresses.
Lee Courtliff
64 Posted 06/08/2022 at 20:49:43
Positives from today were definitely Patterson, who should be our first RB/RWB from now on, and the debut of Tarkowski. Both looked good.

And Iwobi must be one of the first names on the team sheet now.

Overall, not bad considering the absence of a striker and our midfield lacking options. I'm actually quite encouraged, as long as we get Onana/Gueye and a striker in.

Colin Glassar
65 Posted 06/08/2022 at 20:49:56
Thank you Brian W for some perspective. Last season not only couldn’t we score, defend, pass the ball to each other etc… but there was no effort, or fight, until it was almost too late.

We were poor in the final third but decent everywhere else which is a huge improvement over last term.

Danny O’Neill
66 Posted 06/08/2022 at 20:55:17
I didn't have the privilege of attending today and haven't really gone through the comments, I usually give myself 24 hours, so excuse the raw initial assessment.

I thought we done well. Putting the result aside, that was a decent performance in the context of having no striker on the pitch and playing against a team that will likely finish in the top 3.

I didn't feel threatened aside from when Doucoure had his moment of madness. Until then I was commenting to my brother that it's the best I'd seen him play for a while. The annoying thing is Mina had that covered so it was unnecessary.

Quite a lot of positives to take from that performance though.

We looked organised and disciplined at the back. When you consider how bad we were from set pieces last season and how many corners Chelsea had today, we defended very well and comfortably. I never needed my inhaler.

A bit fluid up front, but we had no out and out striker on the pitch.

I thought Patterson looked solid and given his age, alongside Mykolenko, we have 2 promising young full backs on the books.

I thought McNeil looked a bit off the pace to be honest. But aside from that, I think we played well considering the loss of Calvert-Lewin 3 days ago and the injuries to 2 of our centre backs during the game. On that note, kudos to Holgate who was fantastic in winning that first ball at the first post on most of the corners that Chelsea threw at us. And there were a lot of them.

Considering we played a team that is in the Champions League and could potentially win the league whereas we are looking to finish 6th or 7th, I was happy with that performance. They put the effort in and penalty aside, matched them.

Everton man of the match. I'm torn. I'd probably go for Gordon. But I thought Patterson showed what potential he has and Mykolenko continues to impress. Doucoure until that penalty moment. Tarkowski is our captain in waiting. Yerry, can you just please stay fit.

Final comment on the opposition. Note the player who opened up the play with a splitting pass that led to us being on the back foot that led to the penalty. Koulibaly. I called it 2 or 3 years ago when we had the potential due to the links with Ancelotti. We had a debate on another thread about age of centre backs. It's an area of the pitch where experience and maturity is key. He was quality today in my opinion.

Result aside, I'm okay with today and it sounds like the crowd were too??

Colin Malone
67 Posted 06/08/2022 at 21:06:50
Anthony Gordon. You ain't as good as you think you are.
Danny O’Neill
68 Posted 06/08/2022 at 21:07:22
Onana at Goodison and Lampard pretty much confirming him coming in.

Coady next and a back up striker. We're marching.

Danny O’Neill
69 Posted 06/08/2022 at 21:10:37
Harsh Colin. He's still young and developing.

All opinions, but I don't think he's a wide player, which is generally where we've been using him.

I don't think he's a striker, which is where we played him today.

I think he could end up being a modern number 10 supporting a striker.

Si Cooper
70 Posted 06/08/2022 at 21:13:11
I think some people need to review the penalty incident.
What was Doucoure thinking? Er, well obviously nothing! What he was doing was reacting to a desperate defensive situation that he wasn’t solely responsible for.
He barely laid a finger on Chilwell (certainly didn’t give him a ‘shove’) but there was enough contact to somehow convince the ref that Chilwell had no chance to stay on his feet. A very soft one, in my opinion, although if those are given the VAR official will never overturn them.
What he should have done? Well, obviously some think he should just not have bothered and been confident Chilwell would have fluffed the opportunity or the sliding block would come off.
Yes, it was a bit clumsy but most attempts to get a challenge in in those circumstances would have been.
I didn’t think there was much wrong with the rest of his game. Judging by the manager’s post match comments the new recruits may see him ultimately playing a more attacking oriented role but I doubt he will simply be doing bench duty.
Colin Glassar
71 Posted 06/08/2022 at 21:14:23
Regarding the mention of Koulibaly what do the age obsessed amongst us think of that Chelsea back three? Azpilcueta, Silva and Koulibaly have a 100 years between them and still look a class above most prem league defences.
Gary Jones
72 Posted 06/08/2022 at 21:14:41
Some plus points today:

- we were competitive against a good side
- Patterson, Iwobi, Doucoure and Tarks
- atmosphere

Negatives
- Grey, Pickford and Mina (whats the point)
- Still playing gordon central
- hitting long balls to gordon (against 3 cbs!)
- Under use of subs
- own mistakes again

All in all, i’m not giving up hope yet, but if we don't sign at least one (ideally two) decent strikers its going to be a squeaky arse season again.

Christy Ring
73 Posted 06/08/2022 at 21:15:25
I thought Tarkowski Patterson and Mykolenko in defence were so good, Holgate did nothing wrong, another horrific injury for Godfrey, but it would never have happened if the linesman had opened his eyes, the ball was way over the line. Mina has to go, but who will want him now, another injury and no one near him. Iwobi immense, as for Deli Alli, he had one great chance, but his first touch was worse than Brett Angell
Danny O’Neill
74 Posted 06/08/2022 at 21:17:55
Colin @71, you're playing my scratched record.

Silva was the best player on the pitch today.

Phil Bickerstaff
75 Posted 06/08/2022 at 21:18:03
Total boring rubbish
No attacking excitement at all
Put Gordon in the reserves
End of last season,the friendlies and tonight he is totally shite
Can’t wait for randons contribution next week
Bottom 3 he we come
Kunal Desai
76 Posted 06/08/2022 at 21:19:24
In general we played reasonably well, defensively very sound. Sadly no cutting edge ans we'll need atleast two strikers in before the window closes.

We've been competitive under Lampard at Goodison narrow defeats, narrow victories. The real indication will be our away form starting with Villa away next week.

Jeff Armstrong
77 Posted 06/08/2022 at 21:20:42
I thought we had the better chances today,Chelsea where toothless, don’t remember Pickford making a save, positives... Tarkowski, Patterson, Iwobi. ...... That first half missed header by Gordon would have been buried by any one of Rondon, Alli, or Simms, I thought Alli should have started and still do. .... Patterson should have shot on the late chance but pulled it back fo Alli who should have hit it first time........Apart from the pen I thought Doucoure did quite well too, overall not a terrible performance and we will get better with more reinforcements. ....Frank, please leave Gray up for corners and free kicks, sooooo negative and wasteful when we could go on the break, but never can.
Lynn Maher
78 Posted 06/08/2022 at 21:21:08
Have not read any of previous posts yet, as not long got back from match.
It was by no means a great game, but to be honest, better than I had anticipated.
After the trials and tribulations of last season, I am trying to be more positive about the team.
Yes we are lacking an out and out striker but what’s new?
With the amount of corners Chelsea had today, we would have been at least 4-0 down last season. I thought Ruben Vinagre looked quite good..

I really think we should try and get BUPA as our next sponsors though!

Colin Malone
79 Posted 06/08/2022 at 21:21:34
Danny # 69.
The only harsh thing about it was McNeil got took of instead of Gray or Gordon.
Also, why was Allan on the bench? a leader in midfield, who makes sure we keep our shape, instead of running around like headless chickens.
Chelsea where there for the taking.
Danny O’Neill
80 Posted 06/08/2022 at 21:34:13
Agree with you on Allan Colin. I wonder if he's on his way out?

I called McNeil as the change before it happened. Not that I'm slating him, he just didn't seem to be having a good game. It could also have been Gray as he was probably the only other player I thought had an off day. The rest performed. That's all we ask of them.

I did enjoy Gordon's Phil Neville movment in around the same area of the pitch in the second half.

That's the spirit Phil. See you at Wembley next year and Europe next season!!!

Colin Glassar
81 Posted 06/08/2022 at 21:34:51
Danny, when PSG released Silva I was hoping we would get him. The same goes for players like Fernandinho and Azpilicueta etc.. they could have all done a great job for us despite being on the “wrong side” of 30.
Mark Ryan
82 Posted 06/08/2022 at 21:39:56
Should have started with Dele up front. Lots of positives. Patterson was okay, Tara too. Yerry Mina. The man has to be sold
Alec Gaston
83 Posted 06/08/2022 at 21:42:15
Lots of positives - done by poor officiating again - assistant ref should have given a corner meaning Godfrey doesn’t have to make last ditch tackle and Sterling’s dive for free kick leading to build up !!! Need firepower quickly though - COYB
Andy Meighan
84 Posted 06/08/2022 at 21:43:41
Don't like watching a game in a bar, as I feel you don't get a true reflection of what's going on.

That said got to agree with Jim 56 Gordon was dreadful tonight and I'm sorry but I just don't know what people see in him.

Ditto Gray keep expecting things to happen when they get on the ball but nothing ever does.

Thought Chelsea weren't much better either to be fair but deffo a pen, and its settled the game.

A fit CL and we'd have got something there tonight or any striker to be honest.

We go again with a couple of tweaks next week

Peter Mills
85 Posted 06/08/2022 at 21:44:35
It was telling that when Mina was injured Frank did not make the obvious substitution by bringing Keane on as a straight replacement, but preferred moving Mykolenko into the centre.
Si Cooper
86 Posted 06/08/2022 at 21:46:54
Not sure either Thiago Silva or Koulibaly would have looked so assured in our team last season.

Quality they may be but at Chelsea they are surrounded by quality and pace in abundance and I don’t think you can underestimate how much freedom that gives them to be themselves, and I very much doubt they would have been tempted by us.

So it’s a very hypothetical missed opportunity.

I think Allan is still some way from being fully fit so probably on the bench for extreme emergency use only.

Colin Glassar
87 Posted 06/08/2022 at 21:49:36
My point Si, is that class is permanent. Age is a state of mind.
Tony Hill
88 Posted 06/08/2022 at 21:51:27
Alec,@83, I wonder if the media will make anything of Sterling's outright cheating and Pawson's dreadful blindness?

Imagine if that had been Gordon diving, or Richarlison last season. Sterling does this all the time and gets away with it more often than not.

Si Cooper
89 Posted 06/08/2022 at 21:52:26
Alec, to be fair to Sterling I don’t think that was a dive. It was, however, a slip and he was clearly already going down before Tarkowski got to him.
Tony Hill
90 Posted 06/08/2022 at 21:54:41
Si, @89 have a look at the video on EvertonAren'tWe.
Dave Abrahams
92 Posted 06/08/2022 at 22:02:15
More positives than negatives unfortunately all the positives were in defensive and once that goal went in it looked long odds on it being a Chelsea victory and although Chelsea looked poor it was because we made them look poor, not enough quality up front today from Gordon, Gray and McNeil and when Alli came on he did one or two good things but after a good pre season training he still looks half fit, doesn’t bode well for a man of twenty five and he’s on the pay roll for the next two seasons.

Tarkowski should be given the captaincy immediately to let Pickford concentrate on his goalkeeping job, I don’t think he had a serious shot to save today except the one he cocked up for the offside goal but his kicking was poor and he nearly gave a goal away getting caught near the end losing the ball outside the penalty area with careless play.

The improvement shown today defensively needs to carry on further up the field right into the opposition penalty area.

Frank Thomas
93 Posted 06/08/2022 at 22:03:45
Holgate once again at fault for the loss of three points. Lampard was playing three at the back. Mykolenko stayed in position at the left of the goal area, Mina stayed in the middle and Holgate was supposed to stay on the right, the moment Holgate went to support Patterson he left a massive hole for Chelsea to exploit. Yes Holgate did lots of clearances from corners but that was his job to be in that position.rnrnCan we afford to keep Alli he played as fast as Rondon today. This is not your money Mr Lampard we need value for money not your old friends.rnrnSome players need urgent coaching Grey gets too excited about going past players and leaves his passes too late or he gets caught in possession. Gordon played well but needs to move into the goal area in a similar manner to DCL when we are pressing. If he had been 5 yards further forward he would have tapped in Greys attempt.rnrnALL the players need to stop pushing players or pulling them back. This is Everton, refs always give needless free kicks against us but nothing when our players are pulled or pushed.rnrnWelcome to Everton Tarkowski, McNeil and Vinagre you have learnt today what Lampard learnt last season we get the most mystifying and often game changing ref decisions against us, some might say biased decisions.rnrnWe are in a sticky situation though no Simms ( scored 2 today) and no Dobbin they are both gaining valuable experience in a much lower division and no centre forward.rnrn
Robert Williams
94 Posted 06/08/2022 at 22:06:00
Ridiculous, atrocious clumsy, ridiculous, dangerous, stupid, ridiculous, silly,
beautiful, ridiculous, faintly, shockingly, ridiculous, silly, INCREDIBLE. !!

Wow what a match report!!

Jerome Shields
95 Posted 06/08/2022 at 22:08:36
I though Delli Allie should have started. Everton good defensively. Decoure did his Gomes impression, deeper than he should have been. The defensive line was too deep leaving the space to run into. Colgate was nowhere. . The midfield was ok, though Chelsea did find space in it. rnrnThe lack of a striker is a Everton flaw, which there is no mention anywhere of being remedied. I do think there was a lot being expected of Gray and Gordon against Chelsea's defence. Without a recognised striker it was easy for Chelsea to spoil their play. IAs for McNeill he was beekeeping to get the time or appease he had against Dynamo Kiev. . rnrn. I did state on the live forum that it beggars believe that a Professional Club like Everton appear to have a mental. block regarding strikers. rn
Andy Meighan
96 Posted 06/08/2022 at 22:11:00
Dave it'll get better of that I'm sure. Frank is no mug and he'll work his hardest to completely overhaul that squad. The likes of Gray Allan Gomes Davies Holgate Mina etc will be history. Tough start tonight but not much between the two teams. Bodes well but we need reinforcements up front ASAP.
Ian Edwards
97 Posted 06/08/2022 at 22:18:04
I think it's time Holgate got some praise. I thought he was magnificent after coming on. Commanding and confident. I hope he stays in the team.
Steavey Buckley
98 Posted 06/08/2022 at 22:19:24
The value of Richarlison to Everton was underrated. There was not one Everton player who was close to him, judging by Everton's performance today.

Chelsea were never in trouble at Goodison park which would have been 'rocking' if Everton had scored.

I can't believe Everton can wait for the return of Calvert-Lewin in 6 weeks time. At the moment, Everton are in desperate need for 2 goal scorers.

Jeff Armstrong
99 Posted 06/08/2022 at 22:24:31
Ian 97, he was still wasteful in his passing, he finds touch and the opposition 60% of the time, yes even today on one of his supposedly good days. Magnificent....nah
Frank Thomas
100 Posted 06/08/2022 at 22:29:22
Could someone please clarify the new substitutions rules. We used 3 subs and then we were informed we had used all our subs up but Chelsea used 4 in the same half?
Jerome Shields
101 Posted 06/08/2022 at 22:30:43
Just realised this season, after 13 November, then there is a break till January.

Maybe Everton took a risk on strikers because of the short start to the season, with the intention of signing one or two strikers in January. Defence and midfield being the priority this transfer window.

What other explanations is there for no apparent interest in strikers this transfer window? Everton that.

Andy Meighan
102 Posted 06/08/2022 at 22:31:36
Jeff 99.

I honestly think Ian is taking the piss. To be fair he's got previous.

Bill Fairfield
103 Posted 06/08/2022 at 22:31:56
There where some good performances today in a very organised team. Feel positive about the future. Unlucky to lose.
Lyndon Lloyd
104 Posted 06/08/2022 at 22:33:01
Frank (100), you can make 5 subs in all but only get three windows in which to make them. For instance, I think Chelsea did 2, 2 and 1 whereas we did 1, 1 and 1 in our windows because two were unforeseen injuries.
Frank Thomas
105 Posted 06/08/2022 at 22:34:28
Lyndon is that 30minutes a window?
Alec Gaston
106 Posted 06/08/2022 at 22:35:28
Tony @90,

Waiting to see what they say on Match of the Day but not holding out much hope – never a free kick.

Lyndon Lloyd
107 Posted 06/08/2022 at 22:39:27
Frank (105), I don't think they're time windows. They're occasions on which you can make subs and each team gets 3
Frank Thomas
108 Posted 06/08/2022 at 22:39:59
Sorry still not fully following this new rule. If every window is 30 mins long 0-30. 31-60 and 60 to 90 how were Chelsea able to use 4 subs in the 3rd window (2 @65mins and 2 @75mins)
Jamie Crowley
109 Posted 06/08/2022 at 22:40:48
I had to re-watch the second half due to my mother-in-law's air conditioning breaking in the sweltering heat here in Florida. Can't leave an 80-year-old lady inside a brutally hot house!

I thought we looked much, much better than I actually thought we would. I seriously feared a relegation battle, and I still think we will need to dig deep to avoid one, but based on today I wouldn't see that being the case. I think we'll be fine in the end.

Some observations:

Gray was awful. Can he maybe once use that pace to get down to the goal line and not cut inside? He cuts in every single time! Try going wide just once, son! You don't have to cut in and lose possession or blast it over the bar every time!

The injury to Godfrey was so, so unlucky. Then couple it with perennially injured Mina going off and that's our back three screwed. To have two injuries on opening day is unlucky. When they both occur on your back line you wonder if you kicked God's dog?

All-in-all not terrible. We didn't look hopeless in the least, as we did so often last season. Frank is improving the squad and we need to be patient. Give me Gana and Onana and we're looking up. Tough loss, not negative today though.

Ian Edwards
110 Posted 06/08/2022 at 22:43:49
Jeff @99 and Andy @102,

I wasn't taking the piss. Credit where it's due.. Holgate was excellent today. Anyone saying the opposite is just being over-critical and moaning for the sake of it.

Frank Thomas
111 Posted 06/08/2022 at 22:44:07
Ok, Lyndon, I understand you now. Sorry, I responded too soon. The 3 occasions makes more sense.

Thanks, Lyndon.

Ian Edwards
112 Posted 06/08/2022 at 22:45:44
I've just seen Simms's goals today. He has pace and power and a good shot.

Disgraceful he wasn't playing for us today and isn't at least on the bench going forward.

Ed Prytherch
113 Posted 06/08/2022 at 22:45:57
Peter @85,

Keane could not come on because he was not in the squad. Illness or knock I suppose. Frank made the only possible substitution when Mina went off.

I thought that Doucouré was lucky not to be called for a penalty earlier when he was on Sterling like an octopus before Sterling went down.

Ian Edwards
114 Posted 06/08/2022 at 22:51:09
Ed 113. Keane was a Sub.
Kieran Kinsella
115 Posted 06/08/2022 at 23:00:45
Ian,

Simms's goals were both pretty lucky, a better keeper would have kept both out. I don’t see those going past Mendy. Plus he’s hardly a state secret having played at Hearts and Blackpool.

Assuming Frank is an idiot and can’t spot talent, what about the other 19 Premier League managers and all the teams better than Sunderland?

Tony Everan
116 Posted 06/08/2022 at 23:15:04
Jerome 101, The league starts back on Boxing Day. We are home to Wolves.
Peter Mills
117 Posted 06/08/2022 at 23:15:46
Ed#113, every match report I’ve read has Keane amongst the subs. Not being argumentative, I just thought the substitution choice indicated the manager’s way of thinking.
Tony Abrahams
118 Posted 06/08/2022 at 23:21:59
I had to leave after Doucouré had a very good chance, and although I didn’t expect us to get back into the game, when I was leaving the stadium, I still saw a lot more positives than I’ve seen with Everton, for a few years.

I definitely think we need two more forward players, although it’s possible that the players who I thought were our two worst players, also really struggled because we never had a focus point.

Gordon and Gray apart (Demarai still put in the cross of the game, but although Anthony leapt high, he wasn’t quite brave enough), I saw loads of organisation, a leader at the back, plenty of effort, but players in good positions, sometimes rushing, instead of being that little bit calmer and more careful with the ball.

The atmosphere was flat? I thought it absolutely brilliant, but I think one of the biggest problems inside Goodison, can sometimes be that a lot of Evertonians are realists, and could see we just never had enough going forward, once Chelsea had got in front.

Brian Wilkinson
119 Posted 06/08/2022 at 23:31:47
I thought that today was much better than last season's football, playing quicker balls, some nice one touches and passing, created a few chances. On the whole, the defence looks more organised. If we get both the midfielders in and a forward, I think we will be fine.

Mykolenko is looking one hell of a buy, Patterson was decent and Tarkowski looks a natural leader in the defence.

Add Gueye and Onana to that midfield and hopefully a striker and I would forget about the game today, it’s gone, we gave it a shot, now for the reinforcement to come in.

Be a little patient, we looked much better today.

Kieran Kinsella
120 Posted 06/08/2022 at 23:43:58
Brian, Brian, Colin, Tony, Dave, Si, Jamie, Danny, Mike, Alec, Jeff, Frank Lampard … seems like a lot of level headed posters are on the same page here regarding improvement, optimism and the remaining issues we need to address.
Sam Hoare
121 Posted 06/08/2022 at 23:45:53
I only saw the second half but thought there was room for optimism with some better organisation at the back, mixed with passing through the lines and creating a few decent attacking platforms.

I thought the likes of Patterson, Iwobi, Tarkowski and Mykolenko gave encouraging performances though I was a bit disappointed with Alli.

Obviously we need goals and whether we finish 12th or 17th may depend on who we can get over the line in the next few weeks.

Andy Crooks
122 Posted 06/08/2022 at 00:00:09
Robert @94.

It is not a match report. It is a description of the match in live time by a passionate Blue, and as such it is absolutely real and, in my view, spot on. It is restrained in comparison to the Live Forum.

Lyndon does the considered, reflective stuff allowing a bit of time. Paul does the fan's view and Michael does what he does. It is unique and authentic. I disagree with some of his stuff but the live match reports are excellent.


Brian Wilkinson
123 Posted 07/08/2022 at 00:46:26
Koulibaly looks like he should be working as a hod-carrier's mate, he just does not have the physique or the look of a footballer, makes Rondon look like Olive Oil, Popeye's other half.
Ernie Baywood
125 Posted 07/08/2022 at 01:28:02
We can call the attackers out but no-one is scoring goals with that midfield supporting them. The gap between defence and attack is huge and we simply don't have the quality to retain possession and move up the pitch as a team.

So it's kick and run with Doucouré and Iwobi playing attack and defence – constantly sprinting between the two.

Hopefully the midfield additions can change that. Then we can focus on what a striker would give us.

Phil Lewis
126 Posted 07/08/2022 at 01:55:00
The minuses?

Pickford back to shaky antics. Doucoure erratic and ineffective. Mina injury prone again. McNeil, Gray, Gordon and Alli no threat whatsoever.

The plusses?

Solid competent performances from both full-backs. Tarkowski and Holgate are developing an excellent understanding. Iwobi looked comfortable on the ball. He's beginning to look like an important player for us.

The plusses far outweighed the minuses overall and the signs are looking good. We deserved a draw at the very least.

The new signings will improve the midfield immeasurably. If we can also secure another striker and, dare I say it, a keeper to put real pressure on Pickford, then a European place is not that far beyond the realms of possibility.

Soren Moyer
127 Posted 07/08/2022 at 02:17:34
Even with an injury free Calvert-Lewin, we need two more attackers to have any chance of finishing higher than 15th.

There are absolutely no goals whatsoever in our midfield. We are lucky if they get 5 goals combined all season!

Mike Gaynes
128 Posted 07/08/2022 at 02:27:09
Phil #126,

Doucouré erratic and ineffective? You've got to be kidding. Nobody was more effective today except Iwobi. Doucouré covered more ground than anybody on the pitch, pushed the attack, made good passes (mostly), had our best shot and supported the defense very well.

Frank #93,

You are partially correct. Holgate was more at fault for the penalty than anybody. He had Chilwell tightly marked, then stepped away from him and left him open. Doucouré had to try to cover from a bad angle. (And having watched the replay several times, I think Doucouré challenged legally.) That said, Holgate otherwise had an excellent game, and his mistake cost us one point, not three. We would have gotten a 0-0 at best.

Jack Convery
129 Posted 07/08/2022 at 02:46:07
Either Keane had a slight knock or the plan is to flog him to Moyes after we get Coady. However, that was before Godfrey broke his leg. Frank knows you cannot rely on Mina and would like to see him sold but I've heard he doesn't want to leave and wants to see out his lucrative contract.

I expect the plan was to have a back three of Godfrey, Coady and Tarkowski, with Holgate as back-up, with Coleman and Mykolenko filling in when needs must. Keane going to West Ham should bring in £20 - 25M, given the length of his contract and the fact he is English. Given the money we are spending on Onana, I expect the centre-forward will be a loan, maybe even 2 loans coming.

We just need to get Gomes and Gbamin out the door, even if it's on loan, to get them off the wage bill. I would love to see the Excel spreadsheet Thelwell is using to make sure he is balancing the books. It must be a nightmare.

Our squad, come the end of the window, may look healthier than it does now – in fact, it has to be. The forwards (plural) that we bring in will decide that.

Pickford, Begovic, Lonergan.

Tarkowski, Coady, Godfrey, Holgate, Coleman, Patterson, Mina, Vinagre, Mykolenko, Nkounkou, Keane (he may have to stay given Godfrey's injury).

Allan, Davies, Onana, Gueye, Doucouré, McNeil, Mills, Alli, Warrington, Iwobi, Gordon, Gray, Townsend

Calvert-Lewin, Rondon, AN Other, AN Other (hopefully Broja will be one of them).

[As an aside, given Broadhead played 27 games for Sunderland last season and scored 13 goals, why are we sending him out on loan? If he's not up to Premier League standard – he is 24 – sell him and bring in some cash!]

The big conundrum is whether we allow Dele Alli to reach 20 games. If he does, that means we will have to pay Spurs £10M immediately. Can we afford to do that or do we cut our losses? After today, he's played 12, so 8 to go.

Jamie Crowley
130 Posted 07/08/2022 at 03:25:14
Ernie @125,

The gap between defence and attack is huge and we simply don't have the quality to retain possession and move up the pitch as a team.

I'm picking your post to reply to, but many, many people have said this over time.

As an American finding soccer like 14 years ago, this is something I'm not as honed in on. So many people have mentioned this – it started for me with "Sir" John Pierce who isn't on TW any longer – it gives me another facet to analyze. I honestly don't pay enough attention to the gaps in midfield. It's clearly a key facet of successful soccer.

Personal note: Yes, but I think your post is the switch that will turn me on to this personal next level of analysis. Thank you, and to all the others who have mentioned this.

Jay Harris
131 Posted 07/08/2022 at 04:09:50
Jack, someone told me today that Dele's deal is 20 starts – not 20 appearances.

How true that is, I don't know. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable can confirm?

Having said that, I was disappointed with all the forwards today, including Dele.

However, I was very impressed with the overall confidence and play. Kudos to Frank and his boys for at least making us competitive again and particularly for addressing our soft spot from dead balls and crosses which I thought we dealt with brilliantly today.

With the two or three new midfield additions and hopefully a striker, I feel a bit more optimistic for this season.

Kieran Kinsella
132 Posted 07/08/2022 at 04:36:03
Jack,

Godfrey or not, if we can sell Keane, I’d sell him. The Lisbon fellow, Mykolenko and Welch can more than compensate for his absence at much less cost.

Sean Roe
133 Posted 07/08/2022 at 05:12:26
Positives for me were the two full backs, Tarkowski and Iwobi. Everybody put in a shift which should be a given anyway.

Negatives, absolutely no movement upfront forcing the ball sideways and backwards, Gray should be nothing more than an impact sub when the opposition defence is tired. Both him and Gordon continually run into dead ends and produce nothing.

As well as the two new midfielders, we still desperately need another out-and-out striker and an inside forward.

Danny O’Neill
134 Posted 07/08/2022 at 05:48:44
I'm going to stick up for Michael here. The fact he seemingly writes his reports as it's happening and in the heat of the moment never ceases to amaze me.

That takes some doing and I couldn't do it. You'd either get a rant full of nonsense or an emotional blub that you wouldn't be able to read through the tears.

I enjoy Michael's reports as much as Lyndon's, Paul Traill's and the numerous diverse posts we get on here. Even the ones I don't always agree with. If we were all the same and agreed with each other on everything, it would be dull.

I said at the time, Dave Abrahams, Pickford got out of jail with that offside goal. He seemed a bit jittery again yesterday. Often taking an extra touch and that additional second or two, which put him under pressure to rush his kicks. I've never been a fan of keepers being captain. I said earlier, Tarkowski is captain in waiting despite his new signing status at the club.

I keep saying, I think we're going to like Tarkowski. Along with the new signing from Lille, potentially Gueye and Coady, we are going to look solid and full of leaders.

We will have closed that gap. Now for the one up front.

I don't ask for much!!! Just 6 points from the next 2 matches please Everton.

Colin Glassar
136 Posted 07/08/2022 at 07:28:56
The truth is, if we’d have had a normal striker to put away some of those half chances yesterday, we would’ve won that game.
Andy Meighan
137 Posted 07/08/2022 at 07:37:13
Sorry Ian. Hope you accept my apology. He done well when he came on. But I wouldn't be heartbroken to see him moved on.
Bernie Quinn
138 Posted 07/08/2022 at 07:58:05
Danny @ 134 - Whilst agreeing with most of your post, I disagree with your comments on Michael. I know he is writing as it happens which is a wonderful gift, but does he always have to be so negative? One day. hopefully. he will shock me by being positive about the game. Of which I say that although I was disappointed with the result, I was expecting a loss; and in fact was quite impressed with the way the Lads played. It may be a slow start as we bed the players in, but I am looking for a 10th place finish and your trophy!
Jim Harrison
139 Posted 07/08/2022 at 08:00:08
I actually didn’t think we played that badly! For a team that has no striker.

Chelsea are a very good team, and in Sterling they have one of the best forwards in the country. They were largely nullified.

With the new signings coming in, hopefully including Coady, the defence and midfield look well set if not full of flair and excitement.

Clearly a forward is now essential, probably two. I doubt Chelsea would have done any business for their players before the match. Hopefully there are a couple of deals pushed through in time for Villa.

Tony Everan
140 Posted 07/08/2022 at 08:01:25
Now it's all about the attack. We can't progress as we are.

For me too, we need another striker and inside forward, a Dennis and a Broja. Or two similar, the Senegal lad from Dieng at Marseille worth a look.

Yesterday, Gray, Gordon, McNeill didn't come close to having the menace that Richarlison brought towards the end of last season. Gray particularly continuing to frustrate, poor final balls and decision making and lacking in any meaningful penetration. He needs to step it up or he's dropped.

I give a little more leeway to McNeill as he is new and needs time to adjust. Still I expected much more yesterday, I expect him to make some sort of impact so that's slightly concerning. I'm still asking myself would Cornet have been a better investment?

Gordon was below average too but I thought it was a poor strategy to play him through the centre. Still he needs to give us more end product, but I have a feeling that will come if we stick by the lad and back him.

When Dele came on I thought he looked the best player out of our forwards on the day, but even so still not great either. Got himself in a good position from Patterson's cross and if he hit it first time could well have scored. He should know better you don't often get time in the PL in the box for two touches.

Overall I thought we were miles better than last season. Tougher, organised and no pushover at all for Chelsea. In fact, even without a striker, we should have had a 1-1 draw. With a striker, we would have definitely drawn this game and could easily have won it.

With the right attacking reinforcements, we will have a decent season. From what I've seen, despite yesterday's narrow defeat, Frank has us on the right path.

Peter Neilson
141 Posted 07/08/2022 at 08:03:13
Defensively, we looked much improved and Iwobi was tidy in his work. Even so, Chelsea weren’t in top gear.

Encouraging that we’ve new players coming in but a striker is essential as we were completely toothless yesterday. Hoping we fix this before Villa rather than relying on Rondon.

Many Wolves fans comment that Coady can’t play in a back four and it’s why he’s leaving as they change formation. Interesting to see if we go for him.

Bernie Quinn
142 Posted 07/08/2022 at 08:06:47
Danny at 134 - I have tried 3 times today to send a post but I seem to be getting blocked. Just wanted to say that I feel confident you will be at Wembley next year to see us lift that trophy!
Jerome Shields
143 Posted 07/08/2022 at 08:13:46
There has been little mention of a striker in the Summer transfer window. Backs, midfielders and wingers, but no strikers or recognisable strikers.

Calvert-Lewin had injuries last year, Richarlison has gone, Rondon is a sub at best. All last season Everton's finishing was below par and Richarlison out of the blue goals saved the day often. Calvert-Lewin was his usual underwhelming best when he did play. It was a big risk to take a chance in not bringing in a proven striker. To rely on midfield runners is effectively the tactic at Everton. Premier League clubs will be quickly onto this.

As I said earlier, it could be that changes were concentrated on the back and midfield, with January being the window for forwards. The short beginning of the season till 13 November being assessed as being the opportunity to do this, but someone forgot about the early August start.

There are reportedly transfers going on, but none of these are strikers. Now panic will be the order of the day. What a way to start a season. The only club with no recognisable starting forward.


Ray Smith
144 Posted 07/08/2022 at 08:15:50
Lyndon 104

Your example of substitutions brings clarity to the new rules on 5 subs. I think I now understand the new rules!

So, are you saying that double (or more) substitutions are the way to ring the changes?

A manager/coach these days may need to consider using double substitutions when one player gets injured, in order to rejig the setup. Interesting.

Eddie Dunn
145 Posted 07/08/2022 at 08:44:46
I think Chelsea will have a disappointing season.

This was a real chance to pick up points. I feel sorry for Godfrey getting injured but the lad is reckless and could easily have broken the Chelsea player's ankle with the challenge.

We did move the ball quickly and showed some slick passing, particularly Iwobi. Gray is infuriating and holds on to the ball too long, fails to spot the right pass, really displaying why he has been released in the past.

We just don't look like scoring.

Martin Mason
146 Posted 07/08/2022 at 09:03:32
I didn't watch the game but it's good to see the general positivity in the comments.
Colin Glassar
147 Posted 07/08/2022 at 09:10:33
Don’t worry, Moshiri and Kenwright are having a strategic review of the strategic review to see if the need to have a striker on the pitch was raised.

If not, Little Miss Dynamite will be blamed and placed, face down, in front of the bus.

Laurie Hartley
148 Posted 07/08/2022 at 09:20:39
We need a goal “poacher” – my suggestion: Alfredo Morelos, £10M.

Apart from that, I thought we played quite well today and defended about 16 corners.

Brian Harrison
149 Posted 07/08/2022 at 09:32:54
I thought Tarkowski had a very good game, strong at the back, always talking to his fellow defenders, and his distribution was very good. I also thought Patterson did very well considering he hasn't had a lot of game time since he arrived. McNeil was not as mobile as I thought he would be, has good feet but he didn't contribute much but very early in his Everton career.

I, like many, were surprised that Dele didn't start up front and thought it was a big ask to have Anthony Gordon play in that role. I guess the thought was to play balls through for him against the 36-year-old Silva but it never really worked. I thought both Iwobi and Doucoure worked very hard but the final ball just lacked a little and maybe the incoming of midfield players had an impact on their game. Gray put in a couple of good crosses that a regular Number 9 may well have scored from, but too often his final ball wasn't good enough.

Seems like Lampard's selection and substitutions would mean that, despite giving Keane more minutes in the lead-up games, he prefers Mina, Godfrey and Holgate, so it looks like Keane may be looking to move on. Like Danny @134, I also thought Pickford looked very jittery and I thought he had cured that last season.

So not the start we wanted… but the manager, his DoF, and every Everton fan knows where we desperately need strengthening and hopefully we will start to address that problem this week. I know Lampard is a big admirer of Broja but I think, with Tuchel bringing him on yesterday, that may have signalled that he intends to keep Broja, so we may be forced to look elsewhere.

I know all my posts bang on about our lack of goal scorers but it's not just our strikers who don't score enough – there are very few goals from midfield as well, and for me this is our biggest concern – we don't look like a side which will score many goals. I do really hope we bring in at least 2 goal scorers before the window closes.

I know it's not our problem but although Chelsea have spent big they don't look like a side who will trouble the Top 2 or 3 teams in the Premier League on this form.

Chris James
150 Posted 07/08/2022 at 09:41:01
Good to see the usual ToffeeWeb positivity has survived the summer heat and server transfer to launch into the new season. Jesus, will some of you guys get over yourselves?

Chelsea will be vying for Top 3 again but we made them look very ordinary today and, but for a couple of bad decisions and some terrible luck with injuries, we could easily have come out of this with at least a point (the fairest result) if not another win over them.

This isn't to say we played brilliantly, but we did defend very well most of the game and created some genuinely good opportunities despite lacking a proper centre-forward – again this was in part down to bad luck (although I agree the transfer priorities should have been different).

None of us were happy with Richarlison leaving, but I think it's understood we needed to make a sacrifice for FFP and he was the only viable option. If Arsenal or Newcastle had genuinely put similar cash up for Calvert-Lewin, then he may have gone instead, but clearly that hasn't happened.

Assuming Onana and Gueye sign as expected and we can pick up one striker (that we are clearly trying for), plus defensive cover we now clearly need (I'd take Coady), then I think we can point to a solid window – given the constraints we were operating under – of building the spine and players with a spine!

Tarkowski and McNeil both look decent additions, some real bite in central midfield will address a key problem from last season where Doucouré and Gomes were often found wanting, Davies unable to rise to early promise, and Allan clearly not fancied. Vinagre is way too early to say but it's at least extra squad depth with Premier League experience.

Is everything brilliant? Not at all. Will we be challenging for top 4? Sadly not. Could we finish the window more balanced than we ended last season (Richarlison aside)? I genuinely believe we can.

Thelwell seems to be making the right moves, I do like Frank's passion (feels oddly the most Moyes-like we've had since Davey left) and I'm going to give them a few games before I declare everything shit and resign myself to a relegation struggle.

I'm feeling guardedly positive for the season tbh and defeat by a soft penalty decision against a team full of recent European Champions doesn't seem too bad.

Jerome Shields
151 Posted 07/08/2022 at 09:41:30
Simms at Sunderland, Dobbin at Derby.
Derek Taylor
152 Posted 07/08/2022 at 09:49:49
For all the claptrap about Lampard's qualities, how he could not foresee the likelihood of a crisis of strikers, gawd only knows!

With Richarlison sold to ameliorate FFP problems, Calvert-Lewin's injury record and the positively useless (and injured) Rondon as the only back-up, he allows the DoF to ship out the two youngsters who have worked so hard to earn a first-team chance.

No doubt this was in the cause of Thelwell achieving his wage budget targets rather than 'giving the kids pitchtime' but that is Everton today!


Robert Tressell
153 Posted 07/08/2022 at 09:53:01
Presumably, with a fit Calvert-Lewin in the side, we'd have posed a real threat to Chelsea, completely changing the dynamics of the game.

Much more likely a win or draw, given the loss was so marginal and unlucky on balance of play.

I still think it's madness to play 3 centre-backs when we're so poor in central midfield but there you go.


154 Posted 07/08/2022 at 10:07:17
We played very well yesterday. Of course we were always going to struggle without a forward. Many excellent performances against a very strong squad. Competed all over the park. Great effort, boys.

If one or two passes had hit their man then we would have taken something from the game. It was a tribute to our efforts that Chelsea spent 45 minutes trying to freeze the game.

COYB

Chris Locke
155 Posted 07/08/2022 at 10:12:46
Chris @ 150 I totally agree.

We won this fixture last season thanks to Pickford's heroics and a mistake by Chelsea. Not because we played well or deserved to win.

Yesterday (IMO), we played better than I’ve seen for a very long while. Yes, we were light in attack but that didn’t stop us from creating quite a few decent opportunities which on another day could have won the game.

Our midfield held their own against quality opposition which is more than they managed for at least 35 games last season. With two new midfield recruits on the way, we look like we may have 3 or 4 combinations that could work well throughout the season without any drop in standard.

Also worth mentioning the improved set-piece defending. At one point, they had 4 or 5 corners in a row which would previously have guaranteed a goal for the opposition. We also conceded 3 or 4 free kicks in ‘Gomes’ territory which last season would’ve meant an easy goal or 3 against.

I for one have much more hope for the season ahead based on yesterday's loss than I would have if we’d won the game in the same way as we did last season.


Mark Ryan
156 Posted 07/08/2022 at 10:14:45
The morning papers says "Frank wants to bring in Serhou Guirassy"...

Has anyone heard of him?

Colin Glassar
157 Posted 07/08/2022 at 10:22:08
Anonymous 153, if DCL was playing I’m 100% certain he’d have nodded in one of the chances that came to Gordon.

Derek, I’m positive Lampard would’ve wanted an immediate replacement for Richarlison but he doesn’t negotiate deals, or signs cheques or have the final say on who leaves or comes in. Those decisions are made by our Eternal Leader and his spiritual guide after she’s read his tea leaves.

Dave Williams
158 Posted 07/08/2022 at 10:59:20
Funny how we all see different games?

I enjoyed our performance in the main. Passing was much crisper, we played with pace and energy and fought tooth and nail. Gordon led the way with his phenomenal workrate and what on earth has Frank done to Iwobi? He was the best player on the pitch by a distance and is now looking an essential part of our team. Young Patterson was excellent and Doucoure had a fine game apart from the crucial giveaway. Holgate was also very good.

We obviously need a striker, the midfield will be sorted this week from the sound of things and Coady alongside Tarkowski will make the defence solid. Sell Mina ASAP and give McNeil a chance to settle in. The forward players will be far better if we can construct a midfield to win and retain possession.

I hate to lose but that was far better than anything I saw last season. Frank is getting them to play much faster and it is taking shape.

Bill Griffiths
159 Posted 07/08/2022 at 11:14:23
I think I understand the new sub rules but not 100%.
Is anyone able to say whether you can make the 5 changes at one go?
Sam Hoare
160 Posted 07/08/2022 at 11:20:48
I’m not desperate for Coady, good leader and communicator but he’s not a brilliant defender. Tarkowski is superior and will provide the leadership we need.

I actually thought we looked a bit more balanced when Vinagre came on; this system benefits from wingbacks with real attacking impetus and, as much as I like Mykolenko, he’s unlikely to beat his man with a burst of pace and skill like Vinagre can. The Ukrainian did well as the left-sided centre-back and I wonder whether him, Tarkowski and Holgate (if he keeps up yesterday's levels) make a nice trio with Vinagre and Patterson adding penetration as wingbacks?

Chelsea bringing on the likes of Broja and Gallagher for the dying minutes really highlighted the gulf in personnel.

Danny O’Neill
161 Posted 07/08/2022 at 11:28:09
I read quite a lot of things yesterday and not just on here.

Tottenham are early contenders for the title alongside Arsenal.

Liverpool are shaky.

Fulham are going to be the surprise package. I think that one came about 20 minutes into the first game of the season when, pumped up on adrenalin, they were 1 - 0 up.

Forest are doomed.

Newcastle will qualify for Europe having regained their status as darlings of Sky who dine off the riches of billionaires wherever the money comes from.

They published the league table last night. Really? On day one when there are still teams who haven't played. I remember when it never got published until at least 3 games in. And even then, I still pay little attention to it until the Christmas fixtures are done. That tends to be when you know where you are.

I think I'm going to have to admit to getting old and slightly grumpy.

Forget the result. Good start. Good performance. If we hadn't lost our main striker 3 days prior, we'd have taken the points.

Christy Ring
162 Posted 07/08/2022 at 11:28:56
I thought Iwobi was outstanding yesterday and definitely his best game yet. Doucoure, apart from giving the penalty away, ran his socks off.

Playing 3 centrebacks, leaves us lacking in midfield, and less of an attacking threat. With Onana and Gueye coming in this week, and hopefully a striker, it makes sense to play 3 in midfield, with Doucoure or Iwobi in a more advanced role.

I thought Gordon, Gray and McNeil were average yesterday, but to be fair, their game is to cross the ball, and link up with a striker, which we totally lacked yesterday.

Dale Rose
163 Posted 07/08/2022 at 11:30:55
I thought it was a good performance, all things considered. Chelsea are a very good side and we handled them very well. With a decent striker, we would I think on balance have won this.

I was impressed with Patterson and Iwobi. I thought they played well. Dele is a conundrum, how he could have lost form the way he has is a mystery.

Neil Thomas
164 Posted 07/08/2022 at 11:35:00
I thought yesterday was a big improvement.

It’s okay criticising Frank for not bringing in a striker, but there’s not a lot decent ones out there for our budget. Plus it seems that every other team are after one too. And we’ve made the same mistake for the last few years by panic buying, and bringing in garbage. It has to be a striker that will suit the way Frank wants to play.

As for saying that 3 centre-backs don’t work, well, I think yesterday showed it does; we were more organised. 5 at the back, and 2 holders doesn’t mean defensive football, it means the 2 fullbacks are free to go forward, without being exposed at the back, which is more offensive anyway.

Bringing in Coady – who, whether you like him or not, has years of experience playing that system – will be a massive help in settling our backline down and organising it.

Well done lads, good performance and great effort.

Jeff Armstrong
165 Posted 07/08/2022 at 11:36:57
Good fair post that, Christy.



incidentally, which centre-back would Evertonians prefer after yesterday’s performances: £33 million Koulibaly, or Tarkowski free?

Ray Smith
166 Posted 07/08/2022 at 11:38:30
Bill 159

My understanding is that ‘in theory’, yes you could make 5 subs in one go.

As per Lyndon’s (104) explanation 2,2,1 or any combination of 5 subs, has to be done on no more than 3 occasions.

Christopher Timmins
167 Posted 07/08/2022 at 11:40:53
We simply must bring in a striker in the week ahead. So between now and the window closing, we need 4 in.

Positivities from yesterday, the back 5 who finished the game and Iwobi.

Mina is another Delph. Godfrey has history with misplaced backpasses. Gray was ineffective.

We should enjoy a more comfortable season once we tie up the two central midfielders, a striker and a central defender.

Danny O’Neill
168 Posted 07/08/2022 at 11:41:35
Can I be greedy and have both, Jeff?
Joe Bibb
169 Posted 07/08/2022 at 11:47:35
Pickford constantly kicking the ball, either out of touch or straight to the opposition… how come the so-called goalkeeper coach never says anything about this?

We also can't pass the ball forward, we can't tackle without silly little schoolboy pushes on the opposition. I can't understand how Lampard can stand and watch this week after week yet do nothing to stop it.

This squad of players would find it hard to get in a Championship side.


Joe Bibb
170 Posted 07/08/2022 at 11:47:35
Pickford constantly kicking the ball, either out of touch or straight to the opposition, how come the so called goal keeper coach never says anything about this?
We also can't pass the ball forward, we can't tackle without silly little schoolboy pushes on the opposition.
I can't understand how Lampard can stand and watch this week after week yet do nothing to stop it.
This squad of players would find it hard to get in a Championship side.
Joe Bibb
171 Posted 07/08/2022 at 11:47:36
Pickford constantly kicking the ball, either out of touch or straight to the opposition, how come the so called goal keeper coach never says anything about this?
We also can't pass the ball forward, we can't tackle without silly little schoolboy pushes on the opposition.
I can't understand how Lampard can stand and watch this week after week yet do nothing to stop it.
This squad of players would find it hard to get in a Championship side.
Bill Griffiths
172 Posted 07/08/2022 at 11:55:13
Thanks Ray, that's how I see it.
Brian Murray
173 Posted 07/08/2022 at 12:09:46
Mark @156.

No never heard of him (Guirassy) which is by no means a bad thing as, depending on his contract and how skint his club is, he maybe worth a go. Just Googled him he is everything Rondon isn’t. Mobile for a start.

Jerome Shields
174 Posted 07/08/2022 at 12:13:09
'These are crucial weeks for Everton, with a board – led by chairman Bill Kenwright – and owner Farhad Moshiri asking a critical fanbase to judge them at the end of this transfer window.

'How they deal with this striker emergency and other aspects of recruitment will form part of that judgement after a much-touted "strategic review" at the end of last season, the specific results of which seem vague, and currently looks very much like a case of those who have made Everton's previous errors marking their own homework.'

McNulty BBC

Really a summary of concerns on ToffeeWeb.


Eddie Dunn
175 Posted 07/08/2022 at 12:13:30
Chelsea were hammered in pre-season by Arsenal. They were ordinary yesterday. It was nothing to do with us –mark my words, Tuchel will be toast by November. Chelsea will get exposed in their next games and we missed a great chance to beat them.

Who knows if Calvert-Lewin would have got on the end of any of those crosses, I think Koulibali would have marked him very tightly.

The club is totally amateur in its actions. That Chairman, the coach and Thelwell are responsible for not buying a proper striker whilst allowing two kids to go out on loan.

We hardly looked like scoring last season and, with Richarlison gone, we will be in the bottom again very soon because, if you can't score goals, you can't win games.

Mark Ryan
176 Posted 07/08/2022 at 12:20:56
Cheers Brian
Neil Thomas
177 Posted 07/08/2022 at 12:37:21
Eddie #175,

You say without Richarlison, but he only scored 10 goals last season, and if he had spent more time getting back to his feet and doing his fair share of tracking back, rather than rolling about like he had just been snipered, then maybe we wouldn’t have conceded 66 goals.

Yesterday was more positive than negative, but we still ain’t giving anyone any credit.

Pete Neilson
178 Posted 07/08/2022 at 12:47:34
Without Richarlison's 10 goals last season, only Norwich would have scored less. A goal scorer is essential – not just a nice to have.

Even before Calvert-Lewin's injury we were far too light up front hopefully things will change soon, preferably before Villa.

Danny O’Neill
179 Posted 07/08/2022 at 12:51:38
Yesterday was positive, Neil, and most posts I've seen reflect that view.

Richarlison was targeted because he was fast and a threat. I know to some he will always be someone who went down too easily and will no doubt give that perception for Tottenham. Same drills for Andy Johnson back in the day and something Anthony Gordon is getting a tag for now.

Tricky quick players get targeted. If you clip them, they will go down and because of momentum it looks spectacular even though it's a genuine foul.

I don't want my strikers chasing back. I want them threatening the opposition penalty box. That's been our problem. Ancelotti tried to address it by his instructions to Calvert-Lewin. Stay in the box.

If they play for Liverpool, it's different. Salah rarely gets accused of going down easy. Even though he is the master of a World War 2 sniper shot scene in the best of Hollywood movies.

Neil Thomas
180 Posted 07/08/2022 at 13:09:43
That’s fair comment, but you’ll find this season with the new contact rules for players going down, that players like Richarlison are going to find themselves picking up a lot of yellow cards.

As for you saying you don’t want our striker tracking back, I agree, but he’s a wide man, and their job is to help the fullbacks.

Brian Murray
182 Posted 07/08/2022 at 13:20:18
Frank can’t publicly write off Mina or Calvert-Lewin but surely he knows he risking his reputation and job waiting and planning around these two for weeks or months until they are back?

Time to plan without them short and long term. Clocks ticking. We have a hell of a lot going for us on the pitch. The two full-backs will mature to be real players for starters. Midfield will take shape soon.

The clocks ticking on the striker situation but don’t we make things harder, loaning our players out? We could at least have waited until closer to the window shutting.

I won’t say "Everton that" as we want a new Everton. Professional on and, er, off the pitch.

Trevor Peers
183 Posted 07/08/2022 at 13:30:05
If we don't or can't score goals, it won't matter how positive we are or remain – that doesn't get you goals. In simple terms, we either sign two strikers or end up in the relegation zone.

Gordon and Gray don't look like they have five goals between them this season and personally I wouldn't play them both in the same team. It's all down to the next few weeks, that's crazy but not at all unexpected at Everton…after all, we did loan out Simms and Dobbin without replacement… breathtakingly bad management.



Who knows? A miracle may occur and we might do the right thing in the transfer market for the first time since signing Lukaku.

Mark Taylor
184 Posted 07/08/2022 at 13:30:43
I'm also on the side of seeing more positives than negatives. It's fine to blame our attacking play but we were mostly playing 5-4-1 with Gordon running around up front, not in his favoured position.

I think the plan was to fast transition through midfield or direct cross balls (including from Pickford) and hope we could expose a lack of pace in their back 3, mainly via Gray and Gordon but also with the full-backs bombing forwards. Sometimes it worked but not often enough. I wish Gray made more of his undoubted talent, he really lacks a good final ball.

The positives were Iwobi – amazing – the young full-backs, Holgate and Doucouré muffed up for the penalty but otherwise were very good, and Tarkowski looks quality.

I agree with those who say we moved the ball much quicker than last year. All that said, Chelsea were poor and I can only assume are not at the stage some others are in early season, otherwise they won't be qualifying for Champions League anytime soon. Clearly they have their own problems up front and have a bad habit of turning good strikers like Werner into stone.

Eddie Dunn
185 Posted 07/08/2022 at 13:52:51
Neil,

My post had some positives- the crisp passing, Iwobi and our defence looks far better.

However, Richarlison worked his socks off in defence as well as his 10 goals.

John McFarlane Snr
186 Posted 07/08/2022 at 14:03:42
Hi Mark [184] and many others,

I too saw a vast improvement in Everton's performance compared to those lacklustre games of last season.

I learned many years ago not to attend matches with preconceived ideas and was pleasantly surprised with the performance of the team at large.

I'm not one to pick on individual players, I tend to judge the game with the view of 'We win as a team and lose as a team'. I fear that too many fans demand perfection; "It's alright for the opposition to make mistakes but woe betide the Everton player who does so."

I'm looking forward to a much better season, but I'm prepared to expect any defeat to be described as a 'dross' performance.

Andy Meighan
187 Posted 07/08/2022 at 14:06:19
Even before the Calvert-Lewin injury, most on here were stating we need two forwards, not one. So it's time for Lampard and Thelwell to get busy. Let's be fair, Frank's no mug and the lack of firepower will be worrying him more than us, because it's his arse on the line.

As someone brilliantly put earlier, time to plan without Calvert-Lewin and soft lad Mina because worryingly Calvert-Lewin is picking up niggly injuries even at his tender age.

As for Mina, forget him; we'll be lucky to get 15 games a season out of him. And who's going to want to buy a crock of a centre-back?


Jerome Shields
188 Posted 07/08/2022 at 14:11:11
The most positive thing in football is the scoring of a goal. How are Everton going to score a goal?

A team can look good in defence and midfield, but that needs to be impacting at the other end, with goals being scored. If goals are not being scored, what is the point?

Paul Jones
189 Posted 07/08/2022 at 15:08:38
Richarlison was sold quite early in the transfer window and the club knew that Calvert-Lewin missed a great deal of last season due to injury and Rondon if available was unlikely to be a solution to what was going to be an obvious problem.

Signing a forward was the obvious priority for the start of the season and, given it was possible Calvert-Lewin might also be enticed elsewhere, the lack of foresight in the recruitment was lamentable. When fit again Calvert-Lewin will again be touted for another move if he hits the ground scoring before the next window.

The only positive I could take from yesterday was that we looked defensively better organised and more solid. There was no panic every time the opposition had a set-piece near our area.

Raymond Fox
190 Posted 07/08/2022 at 15:14:34
Mina has been mentioned about how fragile he is, I agree but who will buy him.
Its a pity because hes a very decent player when he is fit, but you cant rely on him.
Ok we lost but we did have 2 or 3 decent chances and I was not dissatisfied with the performance as a whole.
I feel confident that we will further strengthen the team, but its easier said than done finding the right players.
We need quality not just buying any Tom, Dick or Harry to make up the numbers.
Andy Crooks
191 Posted 07/08/2022 at 15:26:03
We will not be relegated or, in my view be anywhere near it. It was a decent show yesterday and just emphasized that our atrocious luck continues.
I think Wolves will be relegated and will bet on that. For an unexpected team to go down I think Leicester fit the bill. However well they do up to Christmas I think the will be in trouble.
Rodgers is, in my opinion, a monumentally over rated coach. A tactical dinosaur, a bully and a short term motivator. Good luck to him motivating the shite he has. I will back any team odds against v Leicester.
He will manage Northern Ireland one day and will be great at it.
Mark Taylor
192 Posted 07/08/2022 at 15:39:47
John 186. Well, I certainly can't demand perfection, not from this group. Right now I'd settle for one clear of the bottom 3 and if it looks like we will achieve that, we go from there. I feared we were done for last season.Perfection or close to it belongs to the mid 80's and 60's and we might be waiting a while for a repeat. Since you have 'Snr' in your name, it may be you remember those times too!

These days I'd settle for a decent cup run. Any cup

Mike Gaynes
193 Posted 07/08/2022 at 15:58:13
Hey, we're ahead of Mansucks United in the table! Love watching those clowns lose at home to Brighton.
Jay Harris
194 Posted 07/08/2022 at 16:08:14
Jerome
I have been complaining about our lack of goal scorers for years but we keep buying players who don’t score. Instead of McNeill I would have got Dennis or Cornet. Doucoure and Iwobi for all their energy and commitment do not score. Myolenko and Patterson are good but not as prolific as Baines and Seamus at their best.
That makes it more essential we have a prolific goal scorer up frontEven DCL when fit is not enough.
Surely Frank can see this and is addressing it.
On a more positive note I thought we showed a lot more strength and cohesion yesterday with everyone except the front 3 performing very well.
John McFarlane Snr
195 Posted 07/08/2022 at 16:44:43
Hi Mark [194] I have received criticism on occasion for divulging my age, [ more or less, suggesting that I was using it as a badge of honour]. rnMy first season of watching Everton was in 1948, and having just celebrated my 84th birthday "July 15th", I intend to hang around for the first game at the Bramley Moore Stadium. I'm quite sure that there are fellow ToffeeWebber's who can boast a longer association with the Blues, those of my generation are fortunate enough to recall League and FA cup successes, and also the relegation in 1951.rn I used to take my grandson to the match but now the roles have been reversed, it's his job to take care of me, a job he manages quite well. rnI have maintained my loyalty, but my enthusiasm has diminished, football is no longer my priority I've learned that there more important things in life, and I use the game to escape from the harsh realities for a couple of hours.rn I have used this site more than once to say, "That my world on matchday is 120 yds long and 70 yds wide."
Kieran Kinsella
196 Posted 07/08/2022 at 16:46:00
Andy Crooks

Interesting call on Wolves. I agree on Leicester. Last year Rodgers said the team were crap and he was going to replace them all in the summer. Now the club have told him they’re skint. Vardy is a year for older, Schmeichel has gone, his favorites Barnes and Dewsbury Hall are just wannabe Llalana’s and not the stars he thinks they’ll be. I can’t stand him. Going back to his bizarre berating of Sterling on that documentary. His presentation of himself as husband and father of the year before he got false teeth and ditched them. His embarrassing failure in Europe at Celtic. Yeah I think he’s numbers coming up.

Jeff Armstrong
197 Posted 07/08/2022 at 16:46:36
Jay 194, stop worrying, Gana got 5 last season and Onana 1, both in a farmers league, Coady gets a couple per season too.
Brian Murray
198 Posted 07/08/2022 at 16:58:51
mike post 193. No one I know is really interested in a club not even in the same city although it is amusing at best. Now where’s these front men cmon thelwell don’t spoil a decent window

199 Posted 07/08/2022 at 17:00:07
Jay #194,

I agree, but Frank seems to want his attacks based on midfield strength and a supportive defence. But a proven goal scorer not only is going to score goals, but he can provide space for attacking midfielders also.

Brendan McLaughlin
200 Posted 07/08/2022 at 17:01:28
Sorry, Mike,

Man Utd are above Everton courtesy of their "goals for" column.

Matthew Williams
201 Posted 07/08/2022 at 17:24:06
Is Broadhead in our 25-man squad this season?

Can we not recall the lad Moise Kean from his 2-year loan spell if we don't sign a striker?

Any of my fellow Blues know the score on the above, please.

Mal van Schaick
202 Posted 07/08/2022 at 19:25:36
Headless chicken, Doucouré.

No recognised forwards. Shocking.

Danny O’Neill
203 Posted 08/08/2022 at 04:37:21
Coming back late @Neil Thomas. Equally fair comment and well-made point. I think he always plays as more of an attacking wide forward rather than a traditional winger who, as you say, should protect the full-backs. The protection in the formations we have been playing should be coming from the midfield. That's been our problem.

On Rogers (Andy Crooks and others), now that would be satisfying. Forget it was when with them. But a person whose first act was allegedly to put a framed picture of himself up in his office, followed by changing his teeth and swapping his wife for a younger model, clearly believes his own legend.

Mark Taylor
204 Posted 08/08/2022 at 09:10:06
Hi John 195.

Wow, well you easily beat me. First match was in 1968. I was actually a Tranmere fan because I lived on the other side, but my Aunt, who had a couple of season tickets, took me to Goodison and I was hooked.

I hope our team can give you some nice escapism this year, even if only periodically!

Lee Robinson
205 Posted 08/08/2022 at 10:21:15
Doucouré is always an accident waiting to happen. Iwobi to take his position in that midfield now for me alongside Onana, and I'd like to see Warrington or Gilmour in there as well as a Number 6 to tidy up the transition from defence.

I've said it from the start with Doucouré, he is a liability in a Premier League midfield. Receives the ball square everytime, panics and usually plays a safe ball back to the defence. He rarely cuts through teams or play a through ball and is clumsy in the tackle. Needs to be used as a sub.

I think Frank knows, same with Allan, but he has limited options.

Paul Cherrington
206 Posted 08/08/2022 at 11:44:24
Disappointing result overall as I fancied us to do better at home and snatch at least a draw. As we saw many times last season, we were ultimately our own worst enemy. This time, Doucouré gave the points away with a stupid, senseless foul. I just don't get how an experienced player makes such a crazy challenge. He should know better.

I agree that Doucouré is a liability and not a top-level player. I think he fools a lot of people because he is energetic and athletic. Trouble is, he can't shoot, can't tackle, can't head it, gets caught on the ball, doesn't track runners well and gives stupid fouls away regularly. He shouldn't be getting a game – if we play the same dross as last season, we will get the same result.

The question I want answering is what exactly is the point of the Academy?! If you are not going to give players like Warrington a go when you are short in midfield and people like Doucouré have had plenty of chances to impress, when are you going to do it? Why bring these young players through if there is no real appetite to play them?

It's the same up front. We are short of strikers – even with Calvert-Lewin fit, he is the only decent one we have. The situation is even worse with his injury. Yet, instead of giving someone like Simms or Broadhead a chance to impress, we'd rather play someone out of position up top. It beggars belief.

Why bother with the Academy if you never give the lads you bring through their opportunity when you need them? At least someone like Simms knows where the net is and how to play in that position. Whoever thought it was okay to let him out on loan – this season of all seasons – is clueless.

The other thing that annoyed me at the weekend was not playing Dele Alli from the off. He had a decent pre-season and at least scored some goals. Yet he didn't make the starting 11 – I can't see any sense in it.


Jim Lloyd
207 Posted 08/08/2022 at 12:44:06
I think the three lads playing as our strikers had a bit of a difficult baptism in the new formation, with the emphasis being on a stronger defence. It worked too.

Chelsea have quality players throughout the team and I thought we gave them little opportunity to score. I don't remember Pickford having to make many saves Though I thought he had a bit of an off day on Saturday.

Two of our three central defenders injured and we managed Chelsea quite well. Except for Holgate and Doucouré combining to give them a penalty. If Mina can get fit (???) then, with Mina, Coady and Tarkowski, we at last, have a solid central defence with two good young full-backs as well.

It's midfield where we are shortest at the minute, though I think that. with Gueye and this new lad, we should have a lot more supplying the forwards as well as supporting defence; and if Allan stays, he is a decent sub.

Up front, until we get a goalscoring player (which I think we will by the end of the transfer window), we can make do with Gray and Alli. I'm not so sure about Gordon but let's see.

One thing is, we won't be the easy pushovers that we've been for way too long.

Simon Dalzell
208 Posted 08/08/2022 at 13:04:25
Tedious game. We were never going to score.

Ellis Simms bagging 2 for Sunderland rubs it in. Totally toothless. Against a very moderate team.

Iain Latchford
209 Posted 08/08/2022 at 13:38:27
Jim @207,

Unfortunately the days of saying "if Mina gets fit" are now over. He can't get fit and never will. He should not be considered in any planning Everton make (unless it's a transfer out).

It will be Tarkowski, Coady and probably Holgate. He also has the option of moving Mykolenko into the 3 and playing Vinagre LWB. Good that we now have some depth, although worrying to have long-term injuries so early in the season.

Jim Lloyd
210 Posted 08/08/2022 at 13:56:28
Hello Iain, we're stuck with him unless we can sell and I did say 'if', with a load of question marks. Because of the ones we're stuck with financially, he's by far the best.

I don't think it was a tedious game, I was fearing an exciting (for Chelsea) battering. As it was, I didn't see Chelsea have many shots, or make many openings, except that one that lead to the penalty. If good teams are finding it difficult to get through our defence, then that's a massive improvement to what we've been putting up with for years.

Again, I say let's see who we get in by the end of the transfer window.

Iain Latchford
211 Posted 08/08/2022 at 14:34:12
We're definitely stuck with him. No club in their right minds would pick up his wages.

As someone said, we could maybe use him in the last 20 minutes of games we're trying to see out.

He shouldn't be starting games going forward, as not only can he not complete them – it often results in weeks on the treatment table.

Mal van Schaick
212 Posted 08/08/2022 at 18:24:32
Lampard says that he was happy with the effort and commitment.

Hello! We have not got any strikers and should've bought one or two or kept Simms and played him.

Mismanagement.

Jim Lloyd
213 Posted 08/08/2022 at 18:35:50
Think it's a matter of waiting, Mal. it's easy to say on here, that we should have bought one or two. I think it's obvious that we would have done if it was easy to accomplish. There's lads on ToffeeWeb who I respect and they reckon that Simms isn't quite ready for the first team. This year with Sunderland will do him a power of good, it will help them and we then might have a striker that we all want him to be. I don't think it's mismanagement. lets see who else we bring in in the next two weeks or so.

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