Everton 3 - 2 Tottenham Hotspur
Everton came out of the traps, with Calvert-Lewin and Ndiaye scoring two excellent goals, to go in 3-0 at the break, but allowed Spurs to come close after Richarlison scored their second in added time.
The starting lineup includes Lindstrom with Jake O'Brien finally getting his Premier League debut. Harrison and Young are dropped… but not Doucoure or Calvert-Lewin, while Garner, Coleman, Iroegbunam, McNeil, Broja, and Chermiti are all ruled out through injury or lack of fitness.
Mangala got things going and Everton played forward with a bit more intent from the off, but the first attempt to play out from the back saw O'Brien easily dispossessed and Spurs won an early corner, then Ndiaye almost got the Blues into further trouble.
Mykolenko drove forward but his cross was easily intercepted. Doucoure stole the ball and Lindstrom tried to score, forcing a diving save from Kinsky, the corner delayed by a problem for the assistant referee. O'Brien tried to be a nuisance and fell heavily on his back, before springing up to take a throw-in!
A better move driven by Lindstrom saw Ndiaye's shot blocked after Calvert-Lewin had lost a ball played in to feet. But Gana Gueye next found Dominic Calvert-Lewin in the Spurs area and this time he pirouetted around three defenders to slot it past Kinsky and finally break his months-long goal drought.
Spurs came forward quite strongly in response but Everton defended well and Tarkowski tried to release Calvert-Lewin but he was late getting back onside. Son got past two defenders and bore in on goal, Tarkowski back brilliantly to take the ball off his toe.
Everton again tried to play forward and looked to threaten but when Spurs countered, the overlap was always dangerous and they won another corner that Pickford parried away. Spence's shot was blocked before they won another corner, taken short, and defended away.
Kulusevski got behind the line far too easily and set up Son but Pickford was down well to cover his shot, when normally the Korean would have buried such an opportunity.
Brantwaite sent Calvert-Lewin off on his way again but his touch on the ball proved utterly abysmal as it came off his knee and was easily grasped by Kinsky. But the call came through to Doucore and his shot was parried by Kinsky onto the post, and Calvert-Lewin headed the follow-up tamely into Kinsky's hands.
Son got through again but found hos way blocked by Branthwaite who dared to and Son collapsed in a head but the referee was adamant it was not a penalty.
Going the other way and a one-two with Gueye on the half-way line saw Iliman Ndiaye scampering forward, dodging brilliantly past Dragusin and then scooping the ball past Kinsky high into the roof of the net in one continuous movement, a brilliant goal! Such excitement at Goodison Park almost unheard of!
Bergvall tried a shot that floew over Pickford's goal. Ndiaye almost found Calvert-Lewin with a forward ball but the move was closed down. Gana Gueye had gone over and finally needed treatment.
Bergvall protested too much when he sent Calvert-Lewin flying and got himself booked. But Mykolenko's deep free-kick did not beat the first defender. To even things up, Calvert-Lewin was booked for a loose elbow that smacked Dragusin, drawing blood and requiring lengthy treatment for a cut above the eye, leading to at least 7 minutes of added time before the break.
Ndiaye picked up a loose pass but turned back this time and the move crumbled. Lindstrøm was clipped by Spence, his free-kick was a beauty, met by a Tarkowski diving header that was straight at Kinsky. Tarkowski went down on the corner, a bit too easily: no penalty.
Another corner was worked around to Lindstrøm whose deep cross was headed back from beyond the far post by Tarkowski, glanced on by Calvert-Lewin, and in off Archie Gray, an own-goal to round off a quite splendid half of football for a rejuvenated Everton after 10 added minutes.
Richarlison replaced Dragusin as Spurs kicked off the second half and immediately put Everton under pressure. Calvert-Lewin was awarded a free-kick to relieve the early pressure. But Calvert-Lewin was then called when he seemed to win a fair header on a long ball from O'Brien.
Maddison wanted to break free in the Everton area but was well-marshalled until he fouled Lindstrom. Then Davies went through the back of Calvert-Lewin. Lindstrom swung the free-kick in, Calvert-Lewin heading well wide.
Ndiaye advanced again, to the bye line, but his cross was cleared before it could reach Calvert-Lewin. Geueye should have got a counter going but artlessly dithered then lost the ball. Maddison drove in, winning a corner, headed behind by Branthwaite. On the next corner, Maddison's arm caught Ndiaye as the ball was cleared.
Everton got forward but Lindstrom's low cross went straight to a defender. Ndiaye and Calvert-Lewin broke well but the ball back to Mykolenko saw him fire horribly high and wide.
Spurs tried to clear but Lindstrom leapt on the ball and fed Calvert-Lewin who spun around but clipped the ball just wide. Ndiaye earned another free-kick off Bergvall. A brilliant ball in from Lindstrom into the danger area was just watched all the way through, nobody attacking it.
It got lively when Spurs ran into trouble playing out from the back but Everton failed to capitalize. Everton then had to defend and got away with some questionable challenge.
Mangala drove hard into Kulusevski but Doucoure was booked for delaying the free-kick. Young replaced Lindstrom, who had earned his round of applause. A great spell of football followed with Everton harassing Spurs defenders into a series of mistakes but the ball in to Calvert-Lewin was too difficult to convert.
Spence did well to get to the bye line and the cutback was deflected to Maddison whose shot curled past the far post. Kulusevski's deep cross then flew inches in front of Richarlison and past the far post.
Pickford got himself into trouble trying to stop Maddison and the ball came out to Kulusevski who calmly chipped a perfect ball over four Everton defenders to spoil the scoreline.
Patterson replaced Ndiaye as Everton continued to come under pressure. Moore got past O'Brien and fed Richarlsion, his fist attempt blocked, his second gathered by Pickford. At the other end, the ball almost fell nicely for Calvert-Lewin but Kinsky got to it first.
Spurs almost got through with Spence but he was stalled. Doucoure was robbed of a corner as the game entered the 90th minute. Moore's cross was deflected behind for a corner and the ball was delivered on a plate for Richarlison to convert at the far post as Keane and Pickford looked at each other.
Fortunatley, it had come too late for Spurs to get a third as Everton held on for a very precious win and 3 points in the now perennial battle against relegation.
Everton: Pickford, Mykolenko, Branthwaite, Tarkowski, O'Brien (87' Keane), Ndiaye (81' Patterson), Mangala, Doucoure [Y:67'], Gueye, Lindstrom (70' Young), Calvert-Lewin [Y:43'].
Subs not Used: Virginia, Begovic, Harrison, Beto, Sherif, Armstrong.
Tottenham Hotspur: Kinsky, Porro, Dragusin (46' Richarlison), Gray, Davies, Spence, Bergvall [Y:41'], Sarr, Maddison, Kulusevski, Son.
Subs not Used: Austin, Regulion Yang, Lankshear, (73' Moore) Ajayi, Olusesi, Hardy.
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2 Posted 19/01/2025 at 12:50:15
3 Posted 19/01/2025 at 12:50:44
4 Posted 19/01/2025 at 12:55:05
5 Posted 19/01/2025 at 12:56:25
Like the good old days when Lescott was an outsize rampaging left-back.
6 Posted 19/01/2025 at 12:57:30
I think he's gone 3 at the back with Mykolenko & Lindstrom as wingbacks.
7 Posted 19/01/2025 at 13:01:34
8 Posted 19/01/2025 at 13:03:06
I immediately think, playing with 10 men again from the start!
9 Posted 19/01/2025 at 13:05:02
10 Posted 19/01/2025 at 13:08:30
11 Posted 19/01/2025 at 13:12:36
He's supposed to be an attacking midfielder, has scored one goal in 20 months and zero assists. Maybe slightly out (not a stato) but a waste of a shirt and good oxygen to boot!
12 Posted 19/01/2025 at 13:13:12
Criticism should be aimed at the top, the people who make the decisions and implement their philosophy (or lack of, in our case) on the team. Professional footballers need confidence, and it's a very thin line.
A couple of seasons ago, we couldn't win a game without Doucoure.
13 Posted 19/01/2025 at 13:15:04
Now is the present!
14 Posted 19/01/2025 at 13:19:46
I just wish the team wins this afternoon. I will be watching from my phone here in Lagos, Nigeria. COYB!!
15 Posted 19/01/2025 at 13:22:23
If we're winning or happy with a draw, Doucoure is the leader of a highly effective defensive system across the whole pitch. He closes down passing lanes, presses defenders and makes it very difficult for opponents to play out from the back. If we want to have the ball, play football and score goals, then he's everything you think of him.
Lampard froze him out, Dyche and Moyes love him. That tells you the attitude of the respective coaches about how to set up a football team.
16 Posted 19/01/2025 at 13:30:24
Still, if it doesn't work this time around we could fall back on Begovic or Virginia.
17 Posted 19/01/2025 at 13:33:36
I think Calvert-Lewin should get one more shot under a new manager. Hopefully he is shipped out next week anyway. I would have just played Armstrong instead of Doucoure.
We have to win this; if we do, it could be the end of Ange.
18 Posted 19/01/2025 at 13:38:31
Big clear-out with all 12 in the last months of their contracts – none deserve to be given an extension.
19 Posted 19/01/2025 at 13:41:04
Didn't he play there briefly in the League Cup vs Southampton after Dixon got pulled? He did alright, if I recall? A little bit different vs Son or Brennan tho!
Let's trust in Moyes for this selection, I feel Doucoure is in there more as a spoiling role, whilst hopefully able to pop-up and support attacks!
20 Posted 19/01/2025 at 13:43:08
Fingers crossed for points today!
21 Posted 19/01/2025 at 13:43:37
22 Posted 19/01/2025 at 13:44:05
23 Posted 19/01/2025 at 13:46:25
“partnerships develop.
24 Posted 19/01/2025 at 13:50:54
Not very confidence-building.
25 Posted 19/01/2025 at 13:51:46
It looks like Moyes is good to his word and trying to encourage more attacking play. Today, with a weakened Spurs team, is the right time to try it. I think we will win this one.
26 Posted 19/01/2025 at 13:53:53
27 Posted 19/01/2025 at 13:56:47
Let's have a plan A with in game management. Still 2 keepers on the bench...
C'mon Davey, give young guys a chance please, Plan B for shape change or tiring legs, give us a sign we can mix it up a bit, be less predictable...
28 Posted 19/01/2025 at 14:10:18
Is there an industry with more waste than professional football? Has there been a more wasteful club than Everton over the last 10 years, even accounting for the last few seasons when we have one of the lowest net spends?
29 Posted 19/01/2025 at 14:37:31
Beware of 2-goal leads!!!!!
30 Posted 19/01/2025 at 14:37:57
Well made and well finished.
31 Posted 19/01/2025 at 14:47:23
32 Posted 19/01/2025 at 15:00:08
33 Posted 19/01/2025 at 15:00:21
Spurs are woeful, wonder if Ange will get the sack next week. They are missing loads of players, if they had 6 fewer points than they currently do then they wouldn't have flattered be talked about as relegation candidates.
More of the same second half please Blues!!
34 Posted 19/01/2025 at 15:03:55
Then Calvert-Lewin scores a goal that has you taking it all back and then later when put through, with only the keeper to beat, stuffs it up by using his knee or thigh when he needn't have done.
Then Ndiaye does what we all suspect he's capable of which isn't playing on the wing. Spurs then looked to throw more men forward and their highline seems to suit us down to the ground.
Moyes the Moyesiah or a new manager bounce. Now, more of this and let's not hang back trying to overly defend it.
35 Posted 19/01/2025 at 15:04:15
“How bad do you have to be for Everton to create so many chances?”
Absolute shit-eating wanker.
36 Posted 19/01/2025 at 15:04:55
Got to keep this up! Playing well
37 Posted 19/01/2025 at 15:09:07
Maybe the O'Brien move is a classical Moyes's move who made the back line a fortress in the old days. Strong back line… I like that.
38 Posted 19/01/2025 at 15:09:15
I don't know how VAR is ever going to give a push or short pull from a corner now. It's just allowed, isn't it?
39 Posted 19/01/2025 at 15:10:33
Spurs are very poor today but it's good to see us on the front foot.
40 Posted 19/01/2025 at 15:10:58
Keep up the good work!!
41 Posted 19/01/2025 at 15:17:00
What an amazing 1st half. Unreal!!
42 Posted 19/01/2025 at 15:38:54
No penalties please!
43 Posted 19/01/2025 at 15:46:30
3-1
44 Posted 19/01/2025 at 15:47:14
45 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:03:19
Brighton away will be very difficult.
46 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:04:17
47 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:04:27
We were brilliant until Jesper came off.
48 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:05:14
Great first half!
49 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:06:15
It changes everything.
50 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:09:28
51 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:10:22
I've been wondering whether Patterson has some kind of reputation that goes before him. There's nothing we see that would indicate he couldn't get into this team. Hopefully that cameo has done his chances some good.
52 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:13:13
53 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:13:34
I didn't want Moyes back but we now seem to be able to pass the ball to each other for at least 60 minutes.
Dyche Out!!
54 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:14:43
Armstrong should have come on and Harrison for Lindstrom.
55 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:15:06
I thought all apart from him played well!
I expected Harrison Armstrong to come on after getting good reviews from Moyes.
56 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:16:17
That was our most important game for a long, long time, and we got such an important win. MotD tonight!!
57 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:16:30
One of his usual brain farts for the first one coming off his line without purpose and then resorting to tackling with his feet like a full back.
Then on the second when he should've come off his line to claim the cross, he allows it to go to the far post for Richarlison to bundle in.
On the positive side, for me the stand-out players were Lindstrom, Calvert-Lewin and Ndiaye were very good. O'Brien grew into the game.
58 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:17:32
Pickford at fault for both Spurs goals but give Richarlison his due – he deserved his goal but our game management sucks.
Great win, good to see a positive display.
59 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:19:27
He took our two best players off and kept the abysmal Doucouré on, it could've easily cost us the 3 points.
60 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:23:35
Anyway, good performance from Lindstrøm and hopefully we've seen the last of Young at right-back. Onto to Brighton we go.
61 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:24:21
What a difference in Calvert-Lewin and Lindstrøm. Doucoure is woeful. I thought the lady sat next to me was going to have a coronary screaming at him!
62 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:24:31
I would have considered Keane for O'Brien as this was also his first full game and there was a case for bringing in some experience.
63 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:25:18
The first half was so good, but as soon as we fluffed chances in the second half and players were obviously tiring Moyes sticks to type.
64 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:25:30
Lindstrom very good. Pickford and Keane leaving the ball for Richarlison to score.
65 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:26:30
Owing to Optus's usual poor service after 2 excellent weeks and a good 1st half, I missed their second goal. Their first I put down to a Pickford brainfart.
66 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:27:25
We have 20 points, 4 off Spurs, 6 off Man Utd. If Man City win at Ipswich, the table begins to take a better shape.
67 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:27:29
Why we didn't continue to play the same way is a strange one.
Lindstrom, who was excellent coming off, changed it for me. Calvert-Lewin excellent today too. O'Brien did well also.
Seen more football from the Blues today than the whole season under Dyche, so those who believe it wasn't Dyche, it's the poor quality players – do they really believe we would have these 3 points today with Dyche?
68 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:28:20
Strange times!
69 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:30:46
Our first-half performance was outstanding. Even for most of the second half, we looked the most likely to score until Jordan's brain fart.
After 2 games, there has been a monumental improvement. Let's hope we can keep it going.
70 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:30:57
A nice 3 points toward survival amid the usual fuckwittery near the end to ensure we aren't kidded into a laissez-faire attitude to this squad – we still need players.
But for today – well done, marvelous!
71 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:31:37
We played some of the best football we've seen for ages. Beat a very rich club, We entertained the nation and moved away from the relegation zone.
There are no 'but's. Save them for another time. We won, for fuck's sake.
72 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:33:24
Make no mistake, the score line absolutely flattered Spurs.
Could so easily have been 6.
73 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:34:48
74 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:35:42
We put everything into that 1st half with players closing and harrying better technical footballers and upsetting their rhythm. He also was able to expose their weaknesses due to their injuries and defensive high line.
The first players to go were the 2 who rarely full minutes for Dyche. It wasn't just those who faded but it was the rest of the team to a lesser extent.
Harrison has been woeful and as poor as Doucoure was Moyes would have needed him for shape purposes. The manager would have expected better from 2 of the subs who came on.
Once Moyes has Tim, Jimmy and Dwight back he will have the opportunity to change up the midfield should he wish.
Don't forget Spurs are one of the fittest teams in the league and generally come on strong at the end of games and still brought on genuine quality with Richarlison and Moore.
At least it is refreshing to see front-foot action and tactical tweaks during the game rather than the formulaic stuff previously.
75 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:36:04
Work on an away formation for Brighton next week. Blanket midfield and score on the break for a narrow win will do for us.
76 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:36:08
If Moyes can bring in a few players this week, it'll definitely freshen things up. I thought Garner would have made the bench.
77 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:38:12
We had players attacking the box, bit disappointed with the goals we conceded but plenty of positives today. Neil, spot on.
78 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:41:22
you'll always, always get "buts" no matter what.
Some just can't help themselves.
79 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:41:55
We were completely comfortable for 75+ minutes. Ndiaye scored another cracker. Still some people want to moan, particularly about Moyes. It's a strange obsession.
80 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:42:01
Moyes is no different from Dyche.
Our squad is useless.
Eat shit!
81 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:42:35
But too harsh saying "usual brain farts" -- he hasn't had one of those in a long time.
82 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:45:05
On the other hand, it's perfectly okay to criticise Moyes for terrible, negative substitutions that made things really jittery. The one thing you never do is mess with a defence that is working.
An extra defender doesn't mean better defending, it means more confusion, less clarity of responsibility and more danger. If you want to make ‘defensive' subs, do it in midfield.
However, if you've already started with your most negative midfield, you've not really got anywhere to go, other than trying to bring on fresh legs and pace on the counter-attack.
83 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:45:22
More times than ever this season, teams have piled on the pressure late on and won or salvaged a point. But we held on.
So enjoy, there is some hope that Moyes can get us moving up the table. He deserves the credit and will get us winning at home again.
Now on to Brighton, we have a decent record there so although tricky they do like a draw so let's get at least a point.
84 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:45:24
Moyes's selection was spot on. Playing O'Brien at right-back was shrewd. His substitutes made sense. Lindstrom and Ndaye were knackered. Doucoure will never be everyone's cup of tea but it's clear he's in there for his energy.
Yeah, we need to learn how to close games out better, Pickford was not at fault for the second, Keane was ball watching. Mistakes happen but there were far more positives to dwell on.
I agree with Ernie (51) about Patterson, how does he not get a start? However, O'Brien was impressive, offering extra defensive solidity and another threat at set pieces. I think that works as long as Lindstrom is there to put crosses in.
COYB, the sunny uplands of mid-table are in sight.
85 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:49:01
Two changes from Dyche: Lindstrøm in a better position… and no Dyche.
86 Posted 19/01/2025 at 16:57:58
I have stated before, I would have preferred someone else than Moyes, but I believe he needs 4/5 games to prove himself. So far, there seems positive steps forward and congratulations on the 3 points today.
Points are the aim for the rest of the season to keep in the Premier League that the previous manager's style found hard to do. Although the 3 goals today were a welcome sight, I am sure the 2 goals against are more of a concern to the manager.
Still, it is a long time since I can look forward to the rest of the weekend. Thank you, Everton.
87 Posted 19/01/2025 at 17:01:49
It is well known I am not a fan. Best shot-stopper in the game but causes too much confusion in the box because of his inability to cut out crosses and his tendency to blame everybody but himself.
Jimmy @ 84 for me, that is Pickford's ball all day, he is facing out and can use his hands and the ball came right across the box to be bundled in at the far post. Easy to blame Keane, he is the whipping boy.
88 Posted 19/01/2025 at 17:04:02
But that's a problem now fully imprinted in Davey's mindset. Get Jimmy, Tim and Dwight back into the squad and we can sub tired legs without losing all shape and threat.
Multi subs to save a lead have undone us too many times... But we won, happy day!
89 Posted 19/01/2025 at 17:08:39
Thank god we won.
Just bring Garner, Iroegbunam, and McNeil and it could gently continue
COYB!
PD: what does Doucoure will never be “everyone's cup of tea” stand for?
90 Posted 19/01/2025 at 17:09:13
It's only one game, but it should change the confidence after all the pressure.
The teams below us also keep doing us a favour, long may it continue.
91 Posted 19/01/2025 at 17:12:46
There may even be a few more goals from open play. Remember them?
92 Posted 19/01/2025 at 17:14:50
If anyone was at 'fault', then maybe Pickford but it was just a well-worked goal. Pickford was in his usual towards the front of the goal (corner side) and the ball was looped to the back, I'd expect he'd have thought the man at the back post should have had Richarlison.
Anyhoot, that was 3 points well deserved, and hopefully more lessons learnt, and some boost to confidence. COYB
93 Posted 19/01/2025 at 17:18:36
All was okay until Groundhog Dave came up with his usual raft of defensive substitutions.
94 Posted 19/01/2025 at 17:20:33
I think we brought on one too many defensive subs. I would have liked to have seen Armstrong brought on for Doucoure and Beto on for Ndiaye just to have two up top to hold up the play. I don't think there was a need to bring Keane on.
Big 3 points and we nudge away slowly from the Bottom 3. Need a couple of players in the next week or two.
95 Posted 19/01/2025 at 17:23:18
Foden just celebrated a goal and then dropped to one knee and pointed a "rifle" at a home fan in the front row. Unforgiveably classless.
96 Posted 19/01/2025 at 17:23:19
The win saved Moyes a shellacking for those negative substitutions.
97 Posted 19/01/2025 at 17:25:48
98 Posted 19/01/2025 at 17:25:59
99 Posted 19/01/2025 at 17:26:58
100 Posted 19/01/2025 at 17:29:34
101 Posted 19/01/2025 at 17:29:53
Couple of decent acquisitions in this window and Iroegbunam, McNeil and Garner back should see us safely up the table.
Ipswich current losing 3-0; just Wolves tomorrow and we should have a good cushion to build a bit more confidence.
102 Posted 19/01/2025 at 17:31:44
They could have scored first but Son luckily made a mess of it. Calvert-Lewin was very lively and Ndiaye scored a cracker but that own goal on half time was so crucial in the end.
Cannot believe how nervy they became, especially after the substitutions, and I suppose we all had thoughts of the Bournemouth debacle again.
The results of those below us were very favorable once again.
103 Posted 19/01/2025 at 17:33:15
104 Posted 19/01/2025 at 17:33:16
I do like Calvert-Lewin, sure he's not potent enough but I do feel we are better when he's in the team.
Bashing the badge and leaving in the summer... 🤔
105 Posted 19/01/2025 at 17:33:30
Didn't the chav Foden get his arse kicked for doing that a while ago?
106 Posted 19/01/2025 at 17:35:51
Nothing to see here.
107 Posted 19/01/2025 at 17:36:37
Played some super attacking football and could have scored 6 in the 1st half. Also could have conceded 3!
2nd half was poor sadly - perhaps we were burnt out by the 1st half effort? But also we reverted to poor decision-making and under-hit passes.
Moyes will have seen our best and worst in that game. Brave and unusual to play a 6ft 6in' centre-back at right-back but it worked.
Need to find a way to play 2 good halves but let's focus on the positives: 2 superb open-play goals, Calvert-Lewin back in it, valuable 3 points and a win!!! Woo Hoo!!
108 Posted 19/01/2025 at 17:38:03
I thought the first half we played some terrific stuff, could easily have gone in at half-time 4- or 5-nil. Still created chances in the second half. Last 15 minutes we rode our luck a bit, but a totally deserved win.
Get the injured players back and get 2 or 3 in this window, and relegation will be a thing of the past.
109 Posted 19/01/2025 at 17:41:43
I guess, if you become more offensive, you have to get used to your opponents having more space in attack.
Glad Spurs were so bad in the first half. Good to see O'Brien given a chance… but at right back? I thought Spurs would have attacked him more.
I thought we worked incredibly hard in the first 60 minutes, with Lindstrom, Ndiaye, Mangala and Gueye running the game, but we then paid the price for them becoming tired and less effective, allowing Spurs to get right back into the game and nearly pinch a draw. I can't imagine how sad and confidence-sapping that would be. But we got there!
It does show up our current lack of midfield players to come on when our legs tire, and it's probably why Doucoure stays on the pitch. Garner and Iroegbunam will solve that soon? Might have given Harrison a go in midfield?
I think we emptied the bench of defensive players trying to hold out and taking Ndiaye off meant we lost our ability to move up field. But I can't expect Davie boy to fix everything in a week.
Great to see Calvert-Lewin have such a good game and score. He should have got 2 when couldn't beat Kinsky.
So, with everyone else down there losing, we put another 3 points in the bank and more distance away from the dreaded drop zone. Kept our goal difference more than the rest which is worth another point. Tough trip to Brighton and then we have Leicester at home!
What a difference a win makes and scoring 3 goals at home! COYBs
110 Posted 19/01/2025 at 17:46:34
Okay, the subs were slightly 'negative' but players like Lindstrom were spent, plus Moore came on and looked dangerous -– so we needed Patterson on.
Some people have forgotten how to enjoy a win. We just battered Spurs, folks. But for a Pickford special, they wouldn't have gained any momentum.
111 Posted 19/01/2025 at 17:47:12
Let this be the day our fortunes changed.
112 Posted 19/01/2025 at 17:49:07
He didn't turn out too bad in the end.
113 Posted 19/01/2025 at 17:55:09
I honestly don't know what Moyes is doing, but for fuck's sake, at least we're creating chances! That brings hope.
I wasn't in favor at all of bringing Moyes back, but if today is any barometer, this is much, much better footy and we have hope restored. So keep it up, Davey! Prove your doubters, myself included, wrong.
UTFT. Huge three points.
114 Posted 19/01/2025 at 17:55:09
Armstrong, 18 yesterday I think, in such a high-pressure game?
Sherif, 18?
Harrison, who everyone, and I mean everyone, thinks is shit?
Beto… for MotM Calvert-Lewin?
115 Posted 19/01/2025 at 17:58:23
Once a Blue!
116 Posted 19/01/2025 at 18:04:34
Well done, David Moyes, none of the above can be taken for granted and I am happy to give him the credit for the positives to be taken from this.
However, Doucoure is infuriating and Moyes does have options to remove him from the team – as he has the equally poor Harrison.
117 Posted 19/01/2025 at 18:06:56
Moyes never had a good away record with us!
118 Posted 19/01/2025 at 18:07:04
What a strange game, one which we could have lost, or won 7-4. Spurs were all over the place in the first half, some of that was down to our pressing, some to their poor passing. We took advantage well, with two of our goals being very good.
Lindstrøm, Ndiaye and Calvert-Lewin were excellent. The first two of those 3 are still getting used to the pace and running in the Premier League, and I could understand them being substituted. But the personnel brought on changed the dynamic of the game, and created a degree of confusion in defence.
The replacement of O'Brien, who had performed well, puzzled me. I can only assume he was tired or had taken a knock.
Nobody I spoke to at halftime was confident of us seeing out the second half. Another 10 minutes and we probably would not have done so. But we held on, well done to all concerned for a very entertaining and important victory.
119 Posted 19/01/2025 at 18:07:05
It's a pity we can't send him back to Leeds.
120 Posted 19/01/2025 at 18:13:31
121 Posted 19/01/2025 at 18:18:02
Thought so.
122 Posted 19/01/2025 at 18:24:53
Doucoure just runs around like a kid in a schoolyard, offers nothing, zilch.
123 Posted 19/01/2025 at 18:27:35
I doubt if it was a different, newer younger guy on the touchline today that they wouldn't have as many negative comments after that nervous finish.
The points were the ultimate goal, we won – by one goal. We would have all taken 1-0 before so am not bothered if we win 13-12 or 5 up at half-time and win 5-4 at the moment.
Yes, we would have loved a clean sheet… but we'd rather have the points. I'd say the players put a lot into that first half and it took its toll second half.
We can actually score!!!!
124 Posted 19/01/2025 at 18:29:31
It's him in a nutshell. The lack of awareness for their 2nd was diabolical.
125 Posted 19/01/2025 at 18:32:16
Yep, should be a sterner test for our new manager and his team. As you say, away form was never his forte.
There's been lots of references recently to his “knife to a gunfight” quote back in the day. I wonder if he's considering new metaphors in advance of the game. “Like taking a pork pie to a bar mitzvah”, maybe?
126 Posted 19/01/2025 at 18:40:12
The subs, not many options and I reckon, with Garner or McNeil on the bench, it would have been a different story, not to mention Iroegbunam. The 2 wingers looked spent and the midfield needed freshening up – but with whom?
As for Harrison, I would actually like to see him tried on the left at some point instead of just getting written off.
For a big lad, O'Brien looks quite tidy and can play a bit… and Patterson, like many of us have said, could do what Coleman did and learn his trade as a right midfielder or winger. He has the skillset, I reckon, and quick feet.
So, Moyes has already tried a few different formations in his 2 games, so will at least be on a quick learning curve as to who can do what, and who can't.
Plus, he said the right things in the press conference afterwards – giving the ball away too much, wanted a 4th, wants Ndiaye to carry the ball more, and some good insights and comments on Calvert-Lewin.
127 Posted 19/01/2025 at 18:41:45
We could've put a bucket full past them today if we'd have gone at them 2nd half but, like I said, grateful for 3 points and a million times better than Dycheball. UTFT.
128 Posted 19/01/2025 at 18:48:54
Jake had played only a few minutes the entire season, and I can understand why Moyes didn't think he could go the full 90. But credit to him for starting the kid in the first place. That certainly worked out well.
As for the subs... well, the simple fact is that our bench is weak. Maybe one reason why Dyche was so reluctant.
But I still believe we would have seen out the clean sheet, subs or not, except for Jordan's unexpected brain bubbles. He hasn't had a stretch like that for a long time. Probably intoxicated by the 3-goal lead…
129 Posted 19/01/2025 at 18:57:54
I recall people saying after the Bournemouth debacle that Dyche should have put on more defenders as Moyes would have done!
The team's, and supporters', confidence is gossamer thin. We needed a win and we got a win, with some good play to boot.
130 Posted 19/01/2025 at 19:01:24
Then this poor Spurs team showed how fragile this Everton squad was by getting a goal out of nothing, then a lot of defensive subs coming on and confusing each other.
Spurs get another goal back but, with only 2 minutes left, we hung on for a precious 3 points and leaving most were happy with that.
But for me what should have been a confidence-boosting win turned into reality — that this is still a very poor squad which gets worse with each silly and stupid goal we concede.
On to next week at Brighton and what to expect — a couple of new players would be nice with another couple leaving and maybe the gap between us and the others below getting bigger!
131 Posted 19/01/2025 at 19:04:53
I bet the players were somewhat amazed that they could do that after being shackled by Dyche for so long. Let's hope this isn't another false start (Spurs really were awful) and that we can build on this.
132 Posted 19/01/2025 at 19:06:13
Absolutely wonderful to see him back at the football club. He will sort this club out like he did the first time he was here.
We have our Everton back ladies and gentlemen. I love him.
133 Posted 19/01/2025 at 19:06:14
I didn't particularly want Moyes back, but some of the comments on here are just daft.
134 Posted 19/01/2025 at 19:07:07
Pickford's saves have undoubtedly been priceless the last few years, but, boy, does he put us under pressure with his long punts and aimless booting. It's as if he thinks that he has some part to play in creating chances. Stay in goal. You are not, and never will be, Kevin Sheedy.
Credit to Moyes who identified Spurs' soft underbelly and set us up in a fluid 4-5-1/5-3-2 hybrid which allowed us to negate their strengths and press a bit more effectively. Positive signs and something to build on.
135 Posted 19/01/2025 at 19:08:15
136 Posted 19/01/2025 at 19:11:39
But, positive points: Calvert-Lewin put in a proper centre-forward's shift (although he could have had two more goals); Lindstrom was excellent; O'Brien got a game and looked okay; we actually created chances and looked like scoring.
I'll actually stay up to watch MotD for the first time in a couple of months.
137 Posted 19/01/2025 at 19:12:08
Ship him out to Sheffield United as is the rumour.
138 Posted 19/01/2025 at 19:12:30
Anyway we won thanks to a really good first half and got the 3 points that were desperately needed.
Good to see Lindstroøm and O'Brien have good games and Calvert-Lewin get on the scoresheet at last. Another one at Brighton would not go amiss.
139 Posted 19/01/2025 at 19:15:03
Well, we ended the match with a one-goal lead and we won the game!! I'd say they worked! Keep going, Davie!!
140 Posted 19/01/2025 at 19:16:59
Even when he's got the ball, he's shouting, yelling at someone, pointing at his own head, or just being generally erratic. I wish he would catch crosses, stay calm, hold the ball for 5-10 seconds without doing stupid shit.
Just calm me down, fuck the lads in front of him, just let me chill for 10 seconds ya blurt… how can crosses land in his 6-yard box!! To opposition players nonetheless!
Some keepers come out and catch crosses on the 18-yard line; he watches them land 2-3 yards away!
141 Posted 19/01/2025 at 19:18:57
As for blaming Keane for not tracking back, that cross was Pickford's all day, inside the 6-yard box. If Keane had gone for it, there is only one place it would have ended up at that height and that is in the back of the net. Then the whipping boys would have a bigger heyday.
Yes, Pickford has been brilliant for us at times, especially as a shot-stopper, but he doesn't command the 6-yard box which often leads to panic in our area, then he goes and spreads himself for the shot and becomes a hero.
Pickford is not and should not be exempt from criticism but, for some reason here, it is everybody else who is at fault with Keane being the usual victim.
142 Posted 19/01/2025 at 19:22:04
May it get the monkey off his back. The goal drought being 16 games this season rather than the over 20 last season is a slight improvement.
Maybe he thinks it was all Dyche's fault he failed to convert the numerous good chances he had in the huge barren runs? If he can start scoring regularly, it's a plausible tale.
All I wish for is a functioning, fighting, Everton side that gives it's all til the final whistle. Converting chances is so often the difference between victory and defeat, that a reliable, scoring forward is the number one priority. May Lazarus Lewin rise up and deliver. UTFT.
143 Posted 19/01/2025 at 19:22:15
I can only assume he's gonna be asking Jordan “Why cannae ye nawt git off yar 6 yard leen ya numpty!!”… or something along those lines.
144 Posted 19/01/2025 at 19:26:41
Cue Pickford letting them back in it and then the shit show second. Took the shine off but I've always said the players could play, the ex-manager wouldn't or couldn't.
As far as singing the manager's song, as ever too much to osoon, no one has to do much to get Evertonians going over the top these days.
Players, managers can we have sustained high-performance levels before fawning?
145 Posted 19/01/2025 at 19:27:42
146 Posted 19/01/2025 at 19:31:55
It was nice to see Doucoure and Co running off him for the flick-ons as well. Dyche was clearly telling them not to!!!…
Big shout out to Lindstrøm as well. Him and Ndiaye are both positive, modern footballers and athletes!
Lindstrøm is winning me over bigtime. Even sticks his foot in and isn't a shithouse; Goodison appreciates such things.
147 Posted 19/01/2025 at 19:32:32
Moyes took the right two players off: Ndiaye and Lindstrom were both goosed. I just thought he brought the wrong players on, but after only just over a week, we can already see the difference closing teams down and getting on the front foot.
He is tweaking here and there and will eventually know which is his best formation and starting 11; how refreshing to not sit back at 1-nil up. Missed a few chances and could have easily have been 5-nil up at the break.
Had Everton been 2-nil down, then came out the second half and won 3-2 everyone would be saying what a great second-half performance.
Both goals we conceded were soft; god knows what Pickford was thinking of for the first one! Overall, I thought it was an excellent performance, the two scruffy goals we inflicted on ourselves were down to poor judgement.
Onwards and upwards.
148 Posted 19/01/2025 at 19:33:15
Although the song is a bit cringeworthy! 'He's got grey hair and we don't care'... is hardly Dylanesque in its wordplay!
149 Posted 19/01/2025 at 19:35:16
Higher standards across the club, mate, higher standards. :-)
150 Posted 19/01/2025 at 19:36:38
I hadn't really paid attention to just how poor Spurs have been of late – they're one spot above us in the table!
151 Posted 19/01/2025 at 19:37:10
But maybe when we watch it all back, it won't look as nervy as it felt.
152 Posted 19/01/2025 at 19:37:21
I thought the game changed when Ndiaye and Lindstrøm went off – by then, Mangala and Gueye were also tiring.
Like everyone, I was happy to see Calvert-Lewin score a goal – the most difficult of all his chances. He should have scored at least another but that's him and I would say it's about fucking time. I'm never sold by badge slapping – I'm sold by goals!
Thank goodness Richarlison was on the bench for most of the game, If there is any truth that he would come back to us, then the club should move heaven and earth to make it happen.
Today could easily have turned into a another Bournemouth scenario – Pickford played his part!
I thought Spurs were awful, by the way – thank god. COYB.
153 Posted 19/01/2025 at 19:43:08
In fairness to Spurs for their second goal, I was right in line with the cross which was hit with pace, swerve and dip, and Richarlison finished it well.
We may criticise our centre-back for letting it drift over his head, or our goalie for not anticipating the ball travelling so far, but I thought it was a good goal in real time.
154 Posted 19/01/2025 at 19:46:38
The teams who normally go down are the teams who ship the most goals. On that score, it looks very difficult for Saints (-35), Leicester (-25) and Ipswich (-23) compared with us (-10).
I suspect we won't need goal difference though and should stay up with as few as 4, maybe even 3 wins (with a good handful of draws on top).
I hope we're close to a couple of incoming players now. That would really add to the momentum built today (and the final nerve-racking 10 minutes shows just how fragile that momentum can be).
155 Posted 19/01/2025 at 19:47:50
Just kidding. Great to get a win lifts the gloom suddenly things don't seem so desperate.
156 Posted 19/01/2025 at 19:57:28
More forward passing ✅️
More work rate ✅️
More fan engagement ✅️
More attempts on goal ✅️
Was it perfect? No, but that was so much better to watch as a home-going punter.
157 Posted 19/01/2025 at 19:59:36
Great first two-thirds by Moyes, but I think that he went all cautious over the final third and 15-year-old memories came flooding back. The best form of defence is attack. Even so, some silly comments on here in only his second game that we won and when the final whistle blew today, that was all that mattered.
The Premier League table looks better. We're running away with the breakaway basement league at the moment and it looks like we'll get promoted to the mid-table league in a few games' time.
158 Posted 19/01/2025 at 20:00:30
I thought we were absolutely brilliant! Alright, there was a wobble at the end and they made it nervy but we should have been home and hosed by then.
I've been saying for months on here that any half-decent coach could get a tune out of them players and today proved it albeit against an injury-ravaged Spurs. I know its only 1 game but he tweaked the system and, hey presto, chances galore.
I thought Lindstrøm was excellent along with O'Brien making his first start and Tarkowski was back to his best, that tackle on Son was something else.
But MotM for me was Ndiaye, absolutely fantastic, and the Spurs defenders were terrified of him, when he picked that ball up, I said to the kid next to me, "He scores here!" An absolute gem of a goal.
Anyway, I'm feeling more optimistic now especially after getting home and seeing Ipswich get battered, they Leicester and the already doomed Southampton looking favourites for a swift return. Not getting carried away but feeling a lot better.
159 Posted 19/01/2025 at 20:11:36
Spurs play “Keegan ball”, so the worst possible thing to do was to give them the ball and sit back. That didn't seem to occur to Moyes as he threw on Young, Patterson and Keane.
O'Brien played well and I think it was a mistake to take him off. Somehow Doucoure warranted 90 minutes in his eye. I have no idea how.
160 Posted 19/01/2025 at 20:14:47
Taking off a forward and bringing on a defender so often backfires. Fight fire with fire.
161 Posted 19/01/2025 at 20:18:31
"I feel very fulfilled for all the 83 times I've stepped onto this pitch. Where I played the most and scored the most goals in my entire career. Today, for the last time. Thank you, Goodison Park.”
😭 Come home lad
162 Posted 19/01/2025 at 20:26:28
163 Posted 19/01/2025 at 20:26:55
Moyes will get better – it's difficult currently as panic stations owing to shambolic season we've had to date. Hopefully, more wins to follow quickly.
164 Posted 19/01/2025 at 20:27:53
He could truly be the Prodigal Son of Goodison Park! :-)
165 Posted 19/01/2025 at 20:28:47
166 Posted 19/01/2025 at 20:30:10
Just send him back and call it even, lad.
167 Posted 19/01/2025 at 20:31:03
Whatever happens, Good Luck Richy, you shall always be made welcome by Evertonians everywhere. Just look for the Blue Smoke!
168 Posted 19/01/2025 at 20:39:42
Having watched Southampton the other night against Man Utd, they were flying until they imploded. We nearly imploded today without the energy or fitness.
169 Posted 19/01/2025 at 20:41:45
If he had never played for us and was at West Ham, then would there be a clamour to sign him? I think not.
170 Posted 19/01/2025 at 20:48:22
Some ill-informed comments on here about the substitutions. Ndiaye was affected by cramp while Lindstrøm was clearly suffering from energy depletion. We don't have like-for-like replacements for them and none at all for Gana and Mangala who were both running on empty in the last 20 minutes.
The team as a whole put a lot into the opening hour and, as against Bournemouth in August, ran out of steam in the closing stages. I would not have fancied playing another 5 minutes. B
etter options on the bench are required as a matter of urgency. Hopefully the return to full fitness of Garner and Iroegbunam will solve the midfield problem and a couple of signings will help the attack.
Currently, Spurs have a very weak defence, playing a ridiculously high line and lacking physical strength as well as pace. Vulnerable to long balls, they were ideal opponents for us today. We must hope our team will gain some confidence from today's win and build on it.
171 Posted 19/01/2025 at 20:50:24
In two games we've seen the whole team push further up the pitch, press higher, attempt to use the ball, and changes in players and formation. It's not revolutionary, it's not perfect, and it's not the full extent of what could be done. But it is trying to be more effective.
That first half was as good as we've seen in some time. Lindstrom looked reenergised, Ndiaye with a bit of freedom to move off the left, and Dom getting players around him.
Dom scored a beauty, played really well and missed some other really good opportunities. No-one is really talking about that though... does anyone know how many he missed under Ancellotti? No, because no-one cares. Keep giving your striker chances.
I thought the midfield tired terribly. We're asking a lot of them. And there is nothing we can really do to replace Mangala and Gueye. That probably gets resolved by getting players back to fitness.
Doucoure played his role in our shape. I'm not sure it's a role anyone else naturally fits. But he does nothing with the ball. I'm hoping that's the first position that Moyes is trying to fill with a transfer. I suspect it is. Otherwise he's going to have to compromise and put Harrison or Ndiaye there.
I'm not sure Pickford deserves the criticism he's getting. He had to come out to Maddison... then it's a choice of staying out or leaving him there. Either choice could look terrible with hindsight. For the second you'd hope he would attack the cross rather than try to block the shot... but that was a wicked ball. He did make some good saves too.
Lots to be a bit more positive about and three points on the board. Plus the sense that we might actually see a new player or two holding up the shirt soon.
172 Posted 19/01/2025 at 20:52:15
Bit of a silly answe,r lad, he did play for us though and not West Ham – that's why he's still held in the highest regard here.
He's said nothing but good things about our club since he left and he'd be welcomed back with open arms. It's not just his goals, he leaves everything on the pitch when he plays, unlike a certain prick currently plying his trade in the North-East.
173 Posted 19/01/2025 at 20:57:21
Scenario: Spurs go in at half-time 2-nil up, we come out the second half and score 3 goals and play well.
Take the win Blues, we played well and gifted them two soft goals, could have easily won that game 5- or 6-2 today. A few more weeks on the training ground and Moyes getting used to the players and he will work out his best starting 11.
174 Posted 19/01/2025 at 20:57:24
I said to the lad next to me, with about 15 minutes remaining, at what point do we feel relaxed? I was thinking after 85 minutes, but that comfort zone seemed to disappear when Spurs scored their first two minutes later. Only Everton could throw away a three goal lead in the space of thirteen minutes, not counting added on time, but thankfully we held on for a deserved victory.
Hard to pick a MOTM, but for me our best three players, in no particular order, were Lindstrom, DCL and Ndiaye. OBrien had a solid game in a back three, with plenty of bite in the middle by Gueye and Mangala. Doucoure was Doucoure, running round, full of energy, but producing very little. I thought however, it was a bit unfair by those around me in the Upper Gwladys to blame him for the Spurs second goal, simply because he gave the ball away on the Spurs by-line, a whole 100 yards + away from our goal!! When fans have got it in for a certain player, then they certainly have it in for them, no matter what they do!
Anyway, feeling a lot more confident tonight about staying up, than I did 72 hours ago. Watched a piss poor Leicester get turned over easily by Fulham yesterday, and Ipswich the same on Thursday night by Brighton, and then mauled by Man City today.
Southampton are gone!!
Regarding Richarlison at the end, was great to see him walking towards the Gwladys St. while all his team mates were stood in front of the Spurs fans. Would be great to get him back, even only on loan for the rest of this season, because its obvious he doesnt want to be at Spurs, and I cant really blame him!
175 Posted 19/01/2025 at 21:01:29
176 Posted 19/01/2025 at 21:03:17
177 Posted 19/01/2025 at 21:20:32
But a huge 3 points. Hopefully new additions this month.
178 Posted 19/01/2025 at 21:21:41
It's about time some spirit was shown. We gave it a go early in the season but I think the Bournemouth and Villa games knocked the stuffing out of us.
No idea what Moyes and the team have done to Lindstrom but he was excellent today, worked hard, got crosses in and was my MotM.
DCL and Ndiaye took their goals well. Tarkowski back to his best and O'Brien got a run out. Credit to Moyes and the team. Results like today's make me look forward to the next game.
179 Posted 19/01/2025 at 21:24:48
I do think Moyes needs a few in before the end of the transfer window though.
The Spurs Manager is heading for the sack.
180 Posted 19/01/2025 at 21:26:22
But wasn't it great to see us attacking. Tricky away match at Brighton next, then another home game. Let's do it!
181 Posted 19/01/2025 at 21:31:27
As it happens, we played some real joined-up football and looked capable of scoring at any time, even when we lost our way in the second period, there were still opportunities to extend our lead.
Alas, those chances were spurned and Spurs managed to reduce the deficit, but the most important thing was we won, others around us lost and we moved closer to safety.
It's not at all job done, but it was a step in the right direction, and who knew, this Everton team can play football even if it was against an injury-hit Premier League foe.
Has a David Moyes Everton side ever scored three first-half goals prior to today? Surely it must have happened… if not, what a time for it to happen.
182 Posted 19/01/2025 at 21:34:23
Knew our kids confidence at 3-0 was misplaced. I have watched this team for over 60 years.
So glad for so many
Moyes, especially as I felt towards the end he had us playing exciting football and always averaged 50 goals a season with a positive GD. Unilever's Lynx tag line was first impressions last and I think Moyes suffers from that with many Evertonians.
Calvert-Lewin could have had 2 v Wolves but for Dawson. I think we are a better side for what he does.
O'Brien – for showing why we bought him. He's 24, a year older than Branthwaite, played in Champions League so he should not need to be handled like a youth team graduate.
Lindström (Swedish spelling) showing us why Thelwell stole him and playing like he did before the dead end that was Italy.
Ndiaye for just being Ndiaye.
And where is Don Alexander today? Probably still eating that pie.
Fred - yes. Southampton (H) 29 Serptember 2012 and there may have been earlier ones.
183 Posted 19/01/2025 at 21:36:41
(Though well done Davie Moyes!)
184 Posted 19/01/2025 at 21:37:59
I can't think of another ex-player in recent times who is so loved at Goodison Park.
185 Posted 19/01/2025 at 21:38:18
I am ecstatic with the 3 points though and like many have said, feeling more confident now. If we can ship Doucoure and one of Beto or Calvert-Lewin and get in a striker and an attacking midfielder plus a right back, that will transform the energy of this team. Let's hope the recruitment is underway.
186 Posted 19/01/2025 at 21:44:24
Don't turn it into a Moyes debate, Phil. I didn't join in when some sang the manager's name, I just stayed sat down. He called it right today and we got the points. That is what is important. The players were great for 50-60 minutes.
That isn't the Swedish spelling. Sorry to nitpick. That's an umlaut. It's German!!
Happy with the win and most of the performance today.
187 Posted 19/01/2025 at 21:52:29
Swedish has ä å and ö in their alphabet as separate letters.
And sorry to express my opinion. I won't do it again. I should realise that is not what is expected on ToffeeWeb. We must all toe the party line. Moyes was a boring defensive minded traitor. I'll go and write it out 50 times as a punishment.
Oh, and somehow Britain spells Göteborg, Gothenburg. Not sure how we got that.
188 Posted 19/01/2025 at 21:53:23
I couldn't quite bring myself to sing the Moyes chant either, but happy to do so if that kind of performance becomes regular. After all, he's working with the same players we've watched all season.
189 Posted 19/01/2025 at 21:57:40
"How, how, how, are you going three-nil down to this Everton side??"
190 Posted 19/01/2025 at 22:00:30
And are we begrudging about a win against a team we haven't beaten at Goodison in 13 years and 8 managers, since ehmm… David Moyes was our manager.
Credit where it's due?
191 Posted 19/01/2025 at 22:02:15
Quick check and O and Ö are the same letter in modern German, the umlaut being a pronunciation help. O and Ö are separate letters in Swedish. So whilst O and Ö will be next to each other in the German phone book, in Sweden people like Elvina Öberg (who won gold today in Biathlon) would be after the Zs, Äs and Ås in the phone book.
Shall we get back to Everton's performance now?
😊
192 Posted 19/01/2025 at 22:06:21
193 Posted 19/01/2025 at 22:07:12
194 Posted 19/01/2025 at 22:08:40
He's Danish.
195 Posted 19/01/2025 at 22:09:25
My concern though, is that he will do exactly the same job he did years ago and keep us hovering around 6th/8th next season. Then be given a contract extension.
A much-improved performance today for sure and, though I have my doubts, I sincerely hope he keeps us up.
After years of battling relegation, 6th/8th probably sounds something to be ecstatic about. But not year after year with no progress. Which is what I believe Moyes will deliver.
But kudos to him for the win and I hope he can deliver a few more and guide us to safety.
196 Posted 19/01/2025 at 22:09:32
197 Posted 19/01/2025 at 22:11:15
It's incredible how much relief was experienced in those first 70 minutes of the match today (let's pretend the last 20 didn't happen). Nothing like hearing Goodison rocking all the way across the pond!
As others have mentioned, we may have made the wrong substitutions — would have preferred Beto or Armstrong, even Harrison despite all his flaws, so he could bring some energy up the field — but we're so light in midfield right now, we'll struggle no matter what in the last quarter of matches.
As someone who has defended Calvert-Lewin through and through — which was getting very hard to do these past couple months — I'd like nothing more than for him to score 6-10 goals the rest of the season, re-sign with us, and find a new life under Moyes and at the new stadium. I still believe he has it in him. Just keep doing what he did today, what a goal.
Great to get a look at O'Brien, whom I always assumed was bought to replace Branthwaite when we sell him for £70M in the summer, but who knows. Maybe James, Jarrad and Jake can give us one more year as the most imposing backline in world football.
He deserved a run-out and looked the part. And everyone had their moment today, not least Ndiaye, who continues to impress and is slowly building what will hopefully be a lasting legacy at Everton. Also good to see Patterson finally show a bit of what he can do, Lindstrom too.
Let's go take it to Brighton next week and channel that drubbing we gave them 2 seasons ago.
198 Posted 19/01/2025 at 22:19:11
199 Posted 19/01/2025 at 22:19:14
So if the o with 2 dots above it is called an umlaut, does that make the other one with a line through it a krosaut?
200 Posted 19/01/2025 at 22:20:58
It wasn't a back 3 or a back 5 he was slotting in to a 3 at the back when they were on us but at RB when in possession.
It's a sign that some little tweaks can make a huge difference.
It's not reinventing the wheel, it's using what you have to the best-suited way of playing, to get the best from them, rather than saying" I'm playing this way, this rigid way and you have to fit in "
A couple of reinforcements in January would lift the spirits of fans and players even more,
It felt like players where running faster, pressing harder, taking responsibility without the fear of dyche saying why didn't you clear it or lump it up.
Players believing in what they are doing is a good start compared to players knowing the tactics are flawed.
201 Posted 19/01/2025 at 22:26:27
Changed team set up, playing further up the pitch, imposing ourselves on the opposition and deservedly taking a 3-0 lead, with good goals from open play. Far more positive and enthusiastic, lifting the crowd, Goodison alive again.
Yes, still plenty to ponder. Surrendering 2 goals and bringing pressure through a tiring team with limited options for change, and maybe taking the wrong ones. Tho it's hard to see obvious alternatives.
How to solve the problem of Doucouré, who works hard but adds little.
The squad will be strengthened by returning injured and hopefully a couple of new additions. Far from job done, but after prolonged darkness there is a little light at the end of the tunnel.
202 Posted 19/01/2025 at 22:28:28
Yes, I know he is Danish but ø and ö are the same, one Danish, the other Swedish. Same goes for æ and ä.
Oh the joys of having a Swedish wife. The things you learn - which includes telling the EU forget your 90-day rule for me.
203 Posted 19/01/2025 at 22:30:36
If he achieves that it will be a truly remarkable achievement given the size of the rebuilding job required.
204 Posted 19/01/2025 at 22:35:21
No way we would score 3 if Dyche had stayed. I said Moyes would keep us up when he came in. I'm not changing my mind.
205 Posted 19/01/2025 at 22:51:56
Danny, surprised with you. What we got today was a transformational performance from any game I saw under Dyche. High Press, Fast movement, and probable more shots at goal then we have had in the past 6 games. What does one have to do to get credit.
Yes we were under pressure but that was for 2 reasons, Ndiaye had cramp and had to come off, Lindstrom was knackered. How many 90 minutes has he played. Same with O Brien. If left on and had given the ball away in the last 10 minutes and they scored the cry would be out for Moyes about SUBSTITUTIONS. Why didnt he take him off.
The second reason was a rush of blood to the head by Pickford which let them back in.
As for Annika, it seems reading your post that you would prefer us to go down just to prove that, in your option, Moyes was a wrong decision. ‘
Can believe such pettiness.
The appointment of Moyes didnt excite me. Did see some logic as there was no other low risk manage with PL experience available other than Potter and he is already feeling the pressure.
However I was waiting to see what a new manager would do with the resources available to him and must say what we got today was chalk and cheese from Dyche. Lets enjoy the moment and hope it continues. Ill back any manage who can get these players playing like they did for 70 minutes today. Its the club thats important not your petty begrudgery.
206 Posted 19/01/2025 at 22:52:16
For me Spurs with Postecoglou are like we were under Martinez, yes they play well and score goals but they'll always concede more. They're a shambles at the back.
Both Lindstom & Ndiaye had nothing left, our two main attacking threats today had ran themselved into the ground. Substituting them was sensible but due to our thin squad we only have Young & Patterson to replace them. O'Brien hasn't played 90 mins at this level yet so again for me replacingh I'm was sensible.
We won, that's good enough for me without any of the Quincy forensics. One thing is certain Moyes will get them fitter.
We'll have Garner back for Brighton so hopefully he can slot in for Doucoure.
Well done Blues, now lets get something from Brighton before we do Man United.
207 Posted 19/01/2025 at 23:02:27
208 Posted 19/01/2025 at 23:11:27
210 Posted 19/01/2025 at 23:37:43
Sean Dyche was amazing for Everton - a hero 2x over for what he did but ultimately this is why Dycheball doesnt work. You have to take risks, get players in the opposition box (loads) and score goals in the premier league. Its not rocket science - the shite are living proof. On the other hand, well never play like Peps City nor do I want us to. If you “get” (cliche alert) Everton then you know the fans want; hard work, hard tackles, and players in the box. The School of Science is really a myth, as even Kendalls 84-87 sides were super hard working and hard.
But you cant defend for nil-nils nor can you try and defend leads. Foot on throat football if youre winning. Never ever defend a lead.
COME ON MOYESY
UTFT
211 Posted 19/01/2025 at 23:43:05
It could've cost us and unless his options improve it will cost us against better teams...that's assuming we get to that winning position.
The hard running Doucoure will find it hard to get dropped by Moyes.
O'Brien's is not a wing back and looks lost in the final third of the pitch
212 Posted 19/01/2025 at 23:43:37
'I didn't join in when some sang the manager's name. I just sat down'
Did you then put your pampers back on?
213 Posted 19/01/2025 at 23:49:45
You've maybe misread me or I wasn't clear.
I enjoyed the match. Nervy last half hour and even nervier last 10+added as we hung on.
The manager got it right. He had to make changes, but was constrained by what was on the bench resulting in us going defensive and inviting Tottenham on to us.
A sense of relief when the whistle went, buy in all a good day out, leaving Goodison feeling mostly positive. It's been a while since I could say that.
214 Posted 19/01/2025 at 23:57:45
I just watched the game back and I join in the compliments for Lindstrøm (I don't have an "ø" on my keyboard so I have to cut and paste from more sophisticated posters). This was finally the guy I'd seen play once in the Bundesliga.
Today, he was constantly looking to attack, put in more good crosses than I'd seen all season, and was a snapping terrier when checking back. Great stuff.
215 Posted 19/01/2025 at 23:59:26
“ The Ugly... the last 25 minutes. That was a bad as the Bournemouth debacle. ”
I have to disagree. Bournemouth scored 87, 92 and 96. It was farcical. It could easily have been 5-0. Bournemouth were average until about the 85th minute, got lucky and took their chances. Dyche never countered their changes and fortune favours the brave.
Today we won. But the point is you can't sit on a lead in the premier league. It's suicidal. There always needs to be an outlet and a threat.
216 Posted 19/01/2025 at 23:59:31
Disagree with whoever posted Ashley Young has probably been our best defender. Sure, he has been much better and not a liability by learning to curb his ambition, but the natural constraints due to him slowing down with age affect the whole flank he plays on. Hopefully Moyes will continue to use him when it suits rather than having him as the nailed on starter Dyche saw him as.
Glad Lindstrom showed a lot more of what he can bring to this team. I don't think any of our players, or the squad overall, are really atrocious but you do have to be incredibly careful about the balance of the team to get the most you can from most of the players all at the same time.
I think Dyche had lost sight of that and was fixated on the players he thought were the ‘safest pair of hands'. Moyes has quickly identified other permutations and been open to trying them. That's to his credit, although I think many other managers would have done the same, and he has given us a really good performance and result.
But it's still just the one swallow isn't it?
217 Posted 20/01/2025 at 00:20:15
We were cruising and then we shut up shop and Spurs, with nothing to lose, went for it. Which is pretty much what happened against Bournemouth (them going for it).
If we had had the ability to hit them on the break, we could have carved them up. Maybe we just don't have the players to be able to do that and that's why he made the subs he did. I'm just happy with the win.
218 Posted 19/01/2025 at 00:20:33
I too think that the glass is half-full.
219 Posted 20/01/2025 at 00:37:40
What the fuck have West Ham got to do with anything? If it has any logic it would, I suppose, have to be that you believe that Richarlison's time with us was not good enough for a second invitation. (“Why would we want Richarlison?") It's kinda easier to say that in a single clear sentence if that is indeed your position.
Ryan Holroyd (212): Daft post. Insulting post. Danny or anyone else for that matter has an absolute right not to join in the Moyes welcome song if that is what he chooses to do. Who are you to tell him what to do? Oh, by the way, Dave Abrahams said on here that he was not going to join in the fun. Should he put his “pampers” back on too?
Are you able, Mr Holroyd, to understand that there is a perfectly reasonable, intelligent, articulate and mature argument to be made for waiting to see what happens and expressing reservations and, therefore, being somewhat less excited and enthusiastic than say your good self?
220 Posted 20/01/2025 at 00:38:45
I might post a match report tomorrow (later today!) if I'm making any sense.
221 Posted 20/01/2025 at 00:41:25
Happy and enthused. Still not over the moon. Many moons yet to go but it was nice to see the manager do something.
222 Posted 20/01/2025 at 00:43:35
Sorry - I'm thinking of Umleitung
223 Posted 20/01/2025 at 00:45:01
Tell you what, there's some good actors in that Spurs team. Did you by any chance manage to touch Moyes or get a lock of his hair!?
Make sure to have a good glass of wine when you close the front door.
224 Posted 20/01/2025 at 01:07:20
I enjoyed the ‘he's got red hair but we don't care' chanting, and it seemed he did too.
225 Posted 20/01/2025 at 01:46:30
As I stated earlier, I sincerely hope he keeps us up. But I do not want him in charge long term. That is simply my opinion to which I am entitled.
Try reading and understanding before making accusations that are wrong in their entirety.
I do not like Moyes but will back him whilst he is here. I will congratulate him if, as hoped, he keeps us free of relegation.
I cannot stand ridiculous posts that make the completely wrong assumptions. Again, as previously stated, I do not want Moyes in charge long term.
But if, in your bias, you believe an opinion is begrudgey, then that's your problem. It certainly won't make me change my opinion.
226 Posted 20/01/2025 at 03:29:23
As a number of us have been asking to try a 3-5-2 for a while, it was good to see it today and used successfully. No doubt another week with the squad will see Moyes slowly change the style, tactics and confidence of the players.
One negative for me though, thinking of Villa, Bournemouth, and to a lesser extent, this Spurs match, is game management. I understood the reasoning of the subs but, regardless, our game management really needs to improve.
A similar first-half performance over the 90 minutes next week and a similar result will be greatly appreciated and set us up nicely for Leicester.
227 Posted 20/01/2025 at 03:41:33
I'm alive and well, thanks, happy with the result, dubious about the game management by Moyes, and still depressed as hell by the decades-long damage bestowed upon us by Moyes's greatest supporter (who he screwed to the max in classic "professional" mind-set mind you), Kenwright – Kenwright having screwed all of us to the max in classic "bogus-professional" mind-set of course – hence our all but engulfing ongoing woes.
Still, if a mere 3 points floats your boat, well done.
And tonight's "pie" was a delicious beef stroganoff by the way – devoid of crustiness for a change!
228 Posted 20/01/2025 at 04:24:20
Umlaut means ‘changed sound' in German and, like the acute and grave accents in French, cedilla in Portuguese, etc, it indicates the way that vowel or word is to be pronounced.
Phil Roberts is correct that the Swedish alphabet has 29 letters (I didn't know that) but German one is technically exactly same as ours with 26 but, with the 3 umlauted vowels and something called eszett or ‘scharfes s' which looks like Greek capital letter beta and which modifies the ‘s' sound, it isn't really.
229 Posted 20/01/2025 at 04:39:32
This result and performances was as good as it's been in a while. It's a good day.
230 Posted 20/01/2025 at 04:54:48
Defensively minded with a supported attack, a set-up on Dyche. The last game, he made no changes to Dycheball and the selection. This game, he made changes.
In the next game, Lindstrøm will be marked. Moyes needs a step up on Doucoure. He now has a deeper squad, bringing Dyche's fringe players in from the cold. I wonder how much Garner is off fitness?
231 Posted 20/01/2025 at 05:05:28
Patterson, I could agree with as he could play wingback, but I didn't see O'Brien needing to be replaced but then to throw on Keane was just inviting Spurs to play their game.
And if there is a shortage on the bench, why not try a youngster rather than two goalkeepers? There must be one youngster who puts in as much effort as Doucoure, if that is the yardstick.
Overall it was a better performance than we've seen under Dyche this season and credit to Moyes for that but, whatever the strength of the bench, I thought they were the wrong players to send on.
Yes, I'll celebrate the win – but that doesn't mean I should overlook what I think were mistakes that seemed to surrender our position in this game.
232 Posted 20/01/2025 at 05:38:11
The fact is that Moyes has the same problem that Dyche had. Whichever way you turn, there isn't a clear winning option. There's nothing he can do that everyone would say, "Well, it was clearly the right call, and he either just got unlucky or the players let him down."
The difference is that Moyes still made some of those marginal calls, both with the setup and the subs. If he got them wrong, then he would be blamed… but he was just about brave enough to make a change and he got the win. So he gets to write the story on this one.
Dyche understood that, if you never make any decisions, then very few people can criticise you for changing the outcome. That's how he remained a 'miracle worker' in many people's minds.
He got more value out of fine-tuning the narrative than he did the team. For a while, he was unlucky, and then it was the players' fault. Easy game this football management. About £12M he got for that.
233 Posted 20/01/2025 at 06:10:52
Is it being brave to replace a player suffering from cramp? And if you believe some who have written on here that Lindstrøm was "knackered", having given his all, and O'Brien wouldn't see out 90 minutes as this was his first full Premier League game.
Yes, mistakes will be made, the art maybe keeping them to a minimum, but I thought, regardless of the number of options, the wrong ones were made which I assume was to go more defensive, having come up with a plan that got us in a winning position, he chose to change it.
236 Posted 20/01/2025 at 06:16:56
Besides, he had only played a few minutes this season and I could well understand Moyes not leaving him on for the full 90 minutes. You don't get maximum fitness with training alone.
237 Posted 20/01/2025 at 06:56:18
Annika, my post was based on this sentence: “A much improved performance today for sure and, though I have my doubts, I sincerely hope he keeps us up.‘ I interpreted this that you believed that the manager who you did not want would not keep us in the Premier League.
There has been so much negativity around ToffeeWeb over the past months where Dyche and almost every player in the squad were considered not good enough. Yesterday, we saw something different from the same group of players. Only difference is the manager. Give credit where it is due and leave our prejudices at the gate.
To end, I would like to ask both of you, who would you have picked to replace Dyche who would realistically have taken up the job?
I also was not enthused about Moyes getting the job, I am of the school of never going back but I don't think TFG had any other options. I would have preferred a shorter contract but, for the moment, he is our manager and, based on yesterday, certainly got Goodison rocking which we haven't seen in a while.
It's easy to sit on the sidelines and be an armchair manager; after two games in charge, I will give Moyes huge credit for the performance yesterday. A lot done, a lot more work to do.
238 Posted 20/01/2025 at 07:00:55
What has an infant undergarment got to do with a great, and much need win?
239 Posted 20/01/2025 at 07:22:10
The subs disrupted the pattern but, in fairness, he didn't have many options and the players were looking tired.
240 Posted 20/01/2025 at 07:32:23
I've watched, in the past, players clearly struggle and not be changed out. With Lindstrøm, he made one loose pass and he was off in favour of fresh (though old) legs.
241 Posted 20/01/2025 at 08:21:33
Don't get me wrong, I celebrated Sunday's win as if we had won a trophy and was extremely happy with the performance. Which I fully attribute to Moyes's team changes and more positive tactics.
If he keeps us up and continues to deliver much-improved performances, I will be further impressed.
My concern is if we offer him a long-term contract – as I feel Moyes can only take teams so far, as in his previous stint here. But that doesn't mean I won't appreciate any improvements he makes whilst he is here.
My personal choice would have been Thomas Frank. But I suspect that would have been a difficult choice, given the compensation that Brentford would have requested.
242 Posted 20/01/2025 at 08:43:30
All Moyes has to do is keep on improving, to climb the table and quieten down the doomsayers.
243 Posted 20/01/2025 at 08:47:04
From what I read, Lindstrøm is available for around £18M in the summer, that's not a massive amount by today's standards and this is a player who, not too long ago, had the likes of Liverpool sniffing around him. Definite potential in that lad.
244 Posted 20/01/2025 at 08:54:06
"My concern is if we offer him a long-term contract as I feel Moyes can only take teams so far, as in his previous stint here. But that doesn't mean I won't appreciate any improvements he makes whilst he is here."
We already have – 30 months.
Totally agree on Jesper, Lee @243
245 Posted 20/01/2025 at 09:07:26
I truly hope that he celebrated Calvert-Lewin's not 'great' but fucking magnificent goal v Spurs.
Where's that CEO you told us would be in place 2 weeks ago Mike?
246 Posted 20/01/2025 at 09:23:23
I have always been one of his biggest fans but his performances of late have suggested his head is elsewhere. I have even found myself in the last couple of weeks (for the first time ever since he's been with us) suggesting it was time for him to go.
That performance at the weekend has got me wondering (yes, I know this is the age-old trap for us and I am probably foolishly optimistic!) if there is still a chance if he can strike up a bond with Moyes?
Has he been taking it easy for fear of injury 6 months before his contract ends… or has he been taking it easy because his head is elsewhere? I think those are two very different scenarios and, when you consider the money at stake for him, can you really blame him if it's the former? If he did his Achilles or cruciate ligament in February or March, he'd be absolutely fucked and his risky contract game would have backfired.
Now let's say this is a turning point for him and us (trying not to get carried away here!) then a new contract could ease a lot of stress around this. Ship Beto instead and use it towards one of those Brazillian forwards we've been linked to (Alberto or Igor Jesus), a bit of flair to push Dom and challenge for a starting berth.
That and add a quality wingback and a right winger and we will look an entirely different outfit! So, so important we recruit first team quality, people who immediately improve us. [I think I need a lie down, that is way too much optimism for an Evertonian on a Monday!]
247 Posted 20/01/2025 at 09:42:03
The theory from those thinking that was the only way this group could get anything from any game was to keep playing that style as, if we played a more attacking style, we would get ripped to shreds.
Well, it just shows what happens when you get a proper manager in who wants us to play front-foot football. The pre-game interview where Moyes talked about 'we' and 'us' – not 'this club' as the previous manager did.
Then in his interview after the game, after praising the players, he said he was delighted to send the Evertonians home happy – again, another word Dyche never used.
Look, Moyes isn't stupid and knows there is a lot of work to do, but for the first time in quite a while, I feel excited about watching my team again, so thank you for coming back, David Moyes.
248 Posted 20/01/2025 at 09:47:46
Saved me some outraged typing.
249 Posted 20/01/2025 at 09:54:06
Moyes was referring to Everton as 'we' in interviews months ago. I think he's genuine in his feelings for the club.
Of course points matter more, but both are good. I can understand people not wanting to go back, but as a step change from Dyche, it's night and day.
250 Posted 19/01/2025 at 09:57:08
But I can't for the life of me understand criticism of taking him off. The lad hasn't played all season and actually staggered as his team mates high five'd him when he came off. Lindstrom was running on empty too.
The hindsight merchants make me howl. When Dyche didn't take exhausted players off against Bournemouth, they couldn't express their outrage loud enough; they were screaming that the lack of substitutions cost us that game.
The naivety of the Spurs defending defied belief, but credit to Moyes: his team were set up to exploit it. Great to see us repeatedly press as a unit.
I simply don't understand how people who watch football regularly can't quite grasp how a team with players like Kulusevski, Maddison and Son decided to make a fist of things towards the end. Did you really think we would get it all our own way for the entire gamer???
We probably spent 3-4 minutes (max) worrying that we might not win. A very pleasant change from spending 90 minutes worrying that we may not even get a draw.
I really don't know what it is about some of our fans. Many seem to be more than capable of feeling the agony and crushing disappointments of failure, but they seem completely unable to take any joy from a great day like yesterday.
Over 40 years, ago Ricky Villa scored a very similar goal to Dominic's yesterday in a cup final. While Spurs (famous for their misery) still talk about Villa's goal to this very day, we have many who will simply concentrate on the one Calvert-Lewin missed.
Well done, Davey Moyes. I wasn't in favour of his appointment, but I will be more than happy to come on here every single time he wins and give him the credit he deserves.
251 Posted 20/01/2025 at 09:59:02
For me, nearly every Spurs attack came from him losing the ball somewhere on the pitch, it could easily have cost us the win.
252 Posted 20/01/2025 at 10:09:07
Time will tell if this is a welcome blip or meaningful trend but, for now, it's just good to beat a decent side like Spurs.
253 Posted 20/01/2025 at 10:15:21
You look at that bench and you must realise how limited we are at the moment. We're missing three of our "best" midfielders in Tim Iroegbunam, Dwight McNeil and Jimmy Garner. Pretty sure, if they'd all been available, they'd have been brought on or started.
Too many slag the substitutions made but never offer an alternative. We won and played some very good football. How many think we could have said that in January?
254 Posted 20/01/2025 at 10:18:05
For 70 minutes we did very well, then poor decisions and non-markings got us getting the worry beads out but thankfully we held on to get the win we deserved.
The posts were very favourable to Dyche after that 4-0 win over Wolves but didn't last long; hopefully Moyes can build on this win and, with midfielders coming back and a couple of signings coming in, he will have a stronger squad to help him achieve that.
255 Posted 20/01/2025 at 10:18:21
I agree with all you have said there. I also think there are a few managers in Premier League who I would also like to have but my point is I believe that none currently at other clubs would have left their job to join us in a relegation battle at this stage of the season. For me, that left 2 available and I would have even been afraid of Potter having the stomach for that battle. Moyes was the least risk besides being divisive for many.
A saying I hate but we are where we are, so let's all forget whatever our past opinions are, build a bridge, and get over it and hopefully it will be stabilising in the short term so we can plan for a bright blue future in the long term.
256 Posted 20/01/2025 at 10:32:03
Great if nail-biting win but the drama didn't end there. A few hours after the match, our daughter was admitted to hospital and gave birth to our first grand-daughter. Mother and baby doing fine.
Dominique... perhaps?
Dyche gone, Moyes back, win over Spurs and baby grand-daughter... dry January has never been so difficult!
257 Posted 20/01/2025 at 10:38:30
258 Posted 20/01/2025 at 10:39:30
Being a grandfather is fantastic. Most of the time!
259 Posted 20/01/2025 at 10:40:03
1. Harrison's wages until the end of the season (assuming the £90k per week and the loan ends 25/5 not 30/6) are £1,620,000. Can we not just pay Leeds £1,5M to take him back so we can bring in on loan someone Moyes wants?
2. We got the best part of the Dobbin - Iroegbunam (In Germany it would be Irögbunam) as Lewis was loaned to West Brom with no goals in 17 starts and now at Norwich. Meanwhile, Tim played in 6 matches before being injured. And we lost or drew them all. Is Moyes going to think he is more of an answer for a tiring midfield than Harrison Armstrong?
3. I presume, when McNeil is fit, he will replace Doucoure and Garner to cover Gana and Mangala.
260 Posted 20/01/2025 at 10:46:44
Congratulations!!
261 Posted 20/01/2025 at 10:50:31
Congratulations to Breige, yourself and to your daughter of course who gave you and Breige this wonderful gift of a lovely grandaughter and maybe a lucky mascot for the Blues!
June adds her congratulations to all of you, we hope she has a long, happy and healthy life.
262 Posted 20/01/2025 at 11:06:46
I was impressed with O'Brien's ball control and his demeanour. I think we are on a winner with this lad.
Lindstrom showed signs of what he is capable of – he can strike a football. Methinks we will see him on the scoresheet soon.
Great to hear Goodison going off – the joy enhanced by the obvious disappointment of Jim Beglin.
Last but not least – that Ndiaye… he's a footballer, he is.
What's Our Name?
263 Posted 20/01/2025 at 11:10:56
Calvert-Lewin getting his goal and causing the own goal by the Spurs player is another plus. We now want our injured players fit and maybe a couple players signed. The teams below are continuing to help us by losing which is also good.
The downer on here is the same moaners who are always negative whatever happens, give it a rest.
264 Posted 20/01/2025 at 11:21:01
We then got what some would call the David Moyes special, but which I'd say was simply the paucity of our squad. It claimed Dyche (along with the limits of his imagination and belief in the players). The subs weren't great. They weren't. Even the Bens (can someone please explain that term?) can admit that. But there really weren't many great options. Two kids, a dire left-footed right-mid, or Beto, who has proven a disruptor, but can't hold the ball up, which would have invited pressure onto us.
We don't win that game under Sean Dyche. We maybe (maybe!) scrap for a lucky point from it. I wanted Dyche in January 2023. I wanted Thomas Frank or Danny Rohl this month. I'm happy with David Moyes, and if he pushes us up to the 6th/8th window that some have absurdly suggested, most of us would snap hands off.
By the way, there are some of us of a certain age who freely admit that the best version of Everton we've ever known came under David Moyes. Best results, best consistent run of league finishes, FA Cup final, European football, etc... but can we please remember we're Everton fans, and not David Moyes fans?
People have a right to be skeptical about the man after the way his first run ended. You don't have to like the comments. But making specious remarks questioning their fandom and suggesting they'd prefer us to lose helps no-one.
Unity among the fanbase has seldom been more important than it is right now, and splintering it with shitty, caustic remarks do the club and yourselves a disservice.
265 Posted 20/01/2025 at 11:26:55
That is not a criticism of Mr Moyes, as his work on the team was admirable yesterday. High line, pushing Mykolenko forward, aggressive pressing, counter-attacks with pace, players actually linking up with Calvert-Lewin. He got most things spot on.
His substitutions weren't successful and lost us all momentum – venting on here won't change that. The subs who replaced O'Brien and Lindstrom looked slower than the “exhausted” players they replaced. Young and Keane were off the pace from the moment they stepped onto the pitch to the final whistle.
Lindstrom misplaced his first pass on 66 minutes and was substituted 4 minutes later. If 'one misplaced pass = exhaustion' was the standard applied to the team this season, we would have made 5 substitutions after 20 minutes in every game. O'Brien did not look tired at all to me, and had contained threats down his side admirably.
We will have a bit more perspective on where we are after Brighton away and Leicester at home, so maybe take it down a level until we have a bigger evidence base.
266 Posted 20/01/2025 at 11:40:37
Then probably Ndiaye on the right unless he's fancied down the middle. Personally, I'd love to see him centrally with room to run at players. That goal was a thing of beauty.
I assume, though, that we're trying to buy the Doucoure replacement... but now you mention him, could it be Iroegbunam?
267 Posted 20/01/2025 at 11:47:48
In the short term, though, *if* we're keeping Harrison to the end of the season, we'd do worse than to play him there.
We get his hard work, and he's better placed on the pitch than on the right, which negates what strengths he has.
268 Posted 20/01/2025 at 11:48:46
I can only see us going from strength to strength on yesterday's performance but I was still a bit disappointed we didn't go at them in the 2nd half as I reckon we could have put a few more past them.
269 Posted 20/01/2025 at 12:03:44
I won't sing any Moyes songs if you promise not to sing about fucking curtains, candles and tanners!
270 Posted 20/01/2025 at 12:07:23
271 Posted 20/01/2025 at 12:11:09
272 Posted 20/01/2025 at 12:33:15
Reading further down, they were talking about Michael Keane. Hope they didn't see his defending yesterday, he can still shock you with how hopeless he is.
273 Posted 20/01/2025 at 12:53:35
I cannot do that anymore because Everton have now stopped naming who is on the bench. Why?
274 Posted 20/01/2025 at 12:53:50
One flogged them to death, then expected them to play a full 90 minutess, blowing out of their backsides. The other will get them fit without over-flogging them, and making changes when he sees a player hitting a wall.
Lindstrom and Ndiaye were struggling towards the end and he took both of them off. O'Brien has hardly had a sniff under Dyche, again he got minutes, then taken off.
We can complain all we want about the players that came on, but with few options, the correct players were taken off. Instead of the same 11 playing for the 90 minutes or so each week, Moyes is making switches and trying to give the squad minutes on the pitch.
He made a simple adjustment that we were all calling for: get the players higher up the pitch to support Dom; get some width out wide and get crosses over; press them high up; force mistakes from the defenders.
In just over a week, you can see a huge difference to the playing style, it will take more weeks to get it right from the training pitch to the game itself, but you can see already these players are taking it all in, they actually look like they can play.
Already, he has seen through Jack Harrison, he has got Lindstrom looking like the player we were hoping for, Young is not an automatic starter anymore, Doucoure looks like he is putting more in but he is still struggling to put a simple pass in.
I said when Moyes came in,it would take a few weeks to drum out the negative style they were forced to play, that they can go forward, they can take a man on.
I still stand by Moyes as the safest option and the right choice for now; Saturday made me remember what it was like to watch a game of football at Goodison and to get out of my seat on a number of occasions.
Make no mistakes, there will be some highs and some lows until the end of the season, but I have never felt more assured than I feel now, that we have a manager who has a Plan B and demands the team go out for a win, attacking football, never thought I would see that again this season.
275 Posted 20/01/2025 at 13:00:28
I saw a lot of posts calling out Doucoure as not good enough. The reason that most of the managers (except Lampard) keep picking him again and again is because he offers something others don't have. The ability to cover a lot of ground in the modern quick transitional plays.
He's got good stamina too. A work-horse without too many skills, yes. But he's most likely the player who can get into position to receive the 2nd ball from Calvert-Lewin, help out a bit on attacking and closing the gap quick when being countered. A lot of unsung work. Hope Iroegbunam has such an engine.
I hope we can sign up Mangala. He's got a pretty good eye on goal and also a good read of the game. A solid addition if the price is reasonable.
276 Posted 20/01/2025 at 13:08:46
It was good to see Lindstrom, O'Brien and Patterson get game time and we actually got up the pitch and supported Calvert-Lewin. We actually played some football and got some nice passing patterns and interlinking going in the first half.
The two goals conceded were fully down to Pickford and not the substitutions.
Five more wins will see us safe. I don't see Soton, Leicester or Ipswich getting to 35 points, but hopefully we can get to 40 points and have a decent second half to the season.
Hopefully get another forward and an attacking midfielder wideman in during the window and Moyes can get Doucoure further up the field where he is most useful.
277 Posted 20/01/2025 at 13:12:47
I thought we played well against Villa, another Day and we come out with at least a point, the non-penalty, the non-second yellow card, the sitter at the end missed, along with at least another 3 good chances.
Once we get McNeil, Iroegbunam and Garner back, it will offer more options in the squad, plus a couple of players hopefully brought in through the transfer window.
I would certainly stick with that starting back three and use the wingbacks option to push up, rather than a right- and left-back, use O'Brien, Branthwaite and Tarkowski to man the defence.
278 Posted 20/01/2025 at 13:26:25
279 Posted 20/01/2025 at 13:56:04
Everton have now stopped naming who is on the bench. Why?
Is that at the game? As the teams come out? Must be Rossi's fault. Don't they put the teams up on the big screens?
Then there's the App, and their little poster thingy on social media. But I usually get it from the Echo website. Although needs careful checking as they often throw in a deliberate mistake or two.
280 Posted 20/01/2025 at 14:32:52
281 Posted 20/01/2025 at 14:50:09
Correct, we all support Everton and want Everton to win. They are more important us regardless of manager and our opinion on them however they differ.
282 Posted 20/01/2025 at 15:40:46
Let's not forget Spurs weren't much and Son should have put them in front early on.
It's nice to bounce back and see a couple of fine individual goals
The late nervousness is something we have seen before and the substitutions may have contributed to things getting out of shape.
Ndiaye is a delight to watch at times and reminds me of Duncan Mackenzie, quick and great ball control.
283 Posted 20/01/2025 at 16:05:17
I did note that those who are pro-Mr Moyes and demand loyalty are the same who are posting snotty comments about anyone who disagrees with them. It cuts both ways.
So lets drop some of the stuff posted on here “boring armchair managers”, “put on your pampers”, “hindsight merchants.” etc. Unity and respect go hand in hand.
284 Posted 20/01/2025 at 16:45:41
When we're in the new stadium as a steady Premier League club, I hope we'll look to install a younger, forward thinking manager to take us onwards but for now I'll back the manager we have 100% in which ever way I can.
Although I probably won't sing his song, neither will I stay in the concourse or sit on my hands “fewmin”.
285 Posted 20/01/2025 at 17:02:51
I get people might not have wanted Moyes back and still refuse to sing his name, but it's time to put the past behind us and get behind the guy.
In little over a week and barely no time for a week's training, due to two matches, the guy has got us playing football again, for me two solid performances, very unlucky v Villa, a few good chances missed, no penalty and no second yellow card.
We saw against Bournemouth 2 nil up, Coleman and Iroegbunam running on empty left on.
Yesterday we had Ndiaye suffering with cramp, Lindstrom running on empty and O'Brien starting his first game of the season, all three rightly taken off, with not much on the bench he brought on fresh legs.
I am a big Pickford fan, but I thought he was at fault for both goals.
This will be the first full week he has them for training, there will be ups and downs until the end of the season, but we now have a Manager who wants to win games.
Whatever others have against Moyes, he is our best hope for now of pressing the reset button and getting Everton back again, it will not happen overnight, but already I've seen an improvement and a Plan B, at least give the guy credit for that.
286 Posted 20/01/2025 at 17:08:53
One swallow doesn't make a summer and all that though but I feel if our best players can stay fit we will definitely be a Premier League club next season.
Moyes does seem to have got through to the players already and he deserves plenty of credit for that, but as I mentioned it's still early days.
287 Posted 20/01/2025 at 17:25:06
Danny travels thousands of miles a season, travelling hundreds just to attend home games. I get there are no "better" Blues than others but if there were Danny would be up right there.
He's earned the right to support exactly as he wants to.
288 Posted 20/01/2025 at 17:31:35
Absolutely spot on with regards to the reasons for the substitutions.
Ndiaye was down twice with cramp and was clearly suffering. Nice touch from two different Spurs players going to his aid.
My lad called the LIndstrom substitution before it even happened. The Spurs full back was a proper athlete (I think his name is Spence) and he ran past Lindstrom 4-5 times going backwards and forward. Lindstrom who had played well looked rooted in comparison. My lad said "Moyes wont have that" 5 secs later the board went up.
I was made up with O'Brien. I must be honest and say I had'nt seen enough of him to form a judgement, but worried that he couldnt even get in the Irish side. Those worries have been well and truly laid to rest. I can only assume his lack of games is what cost him his Irish shirt. He was also sending out the distress signals with a couple of weary touches and a very tired attempt to back heel a clearance. Much more to come from him though
289 Posted 20/01/2025 at 17:48:41
Apparently we had only 36% possession. Can that really be true? And if so, what did Spurs do with over 60% of the ball ?
290 Posted 20/01/2025 at 18:17:22
I can understand people not wanting to cheer Moyes, I've never been one to hold a grudge but we all see things differently.
The subs needed to be made and there were few options, hopefully we'll get our other midfielders fit as that will make a difference. Could see Ndiaye being played through the middle, with McNeill out left.
Tony, 289 - Spurs had plenty of the ball in their own third, as many possession stat loving teams do.
Much happier with Everton.
291 Posted 20/01/2025 at 18:43:44
And let's not forget Howard Kendall sold Lineker to Barcelona because he thought he was getting the Barca job and walked out on Everton to go to Bilbao.
Grow up.
292 Posted 20/01/2025 at 18:47:03
293 Posted 20/01/2025 at 18:57:53
I must admit, I stopped watching in the last couple of months as I found the football played under Dyche to be dire and not like the Everton I've supported since 1960.
Yesterday though was as different as chalk and cheese. Full of energy, fluid football and, crucially, shots at goal. I wasn't in favour of the appointment of Moyes but fair play to him, he's changed the style and tactics after only 2 games.
With the return of the injured players and possibly some needed additions to the squad, I'm more optimistic that we will be playing Premier League football in the new stadium next season.
294 Posted 20/01/2025 at 18:59:23
295 Posted 20/01/2025 at 19:01:33
296 Posted 20/01/2025 at 19:03:24
I also think Everton fans are the most clueless in football. But it's just my opinion.
297 Posted 20/01/2025 at 19:04:43
Oh and Si is wrong. There are only 28 letters in the Swedish Alphabet as the do not have a double-U which of course we write W which is really a double-V.🤔
298 Posted 20/01/2025 at 22:07:36
One thing Moyes installed last time round was fitness. His previous EFC teams ran for 90plus..Im sure hell get this lot there too
299 Posted 20/01/2025 at 23:08:13
In fact after our last game against them Iraola said something along the lines of “we knew they would run out of gas, we just had to be patient”.
I watched them against Newcastle. They just keep going.
As you suggest Winston getting them fit is one thing we can be sure Moyes will address.
300 Posted 20/01/2025 at 23:12:43
Yes. Every game. They used to name the bench at every games since I can remember, 50 years. I find it annoying, you have to wait till half time, to see the subs come on the pitch. Why? Annoying.
301 Posted 20/01/2025 at 23:47:28
Phil Roberts (297) “Oh and Si is wrong. There are only 28 letters in the Swedish Alphabet as the do not have a double-U which of course we write W which is really a double-V.🤔”
Apologies, but its all the sources on Google that led me astray - I only checked it quickly but all the ones I could see said the same: 29 letters in Swedish alphabet.
V doubled as U for the Romans (and I does same for J - Ivlivs for them rather than Julius) so Id guess thats why w is ‘double u. Not going to bother checking the unreliable internet.
Most wives are appreciative of a cunning linguist.
302 Posted 20/01/2025 at 23:54:05
303 Posted 21/01/2025 at 00:34:14
Talking of clueless, your ‘thinking at 291 is miles off. Many of the Evertonians who arent best pleased to have Davey back werent bothered that Moyes went to a bigger club (though they may believe he didnt show any regard for EFC in the way it was seen to pan out) because they actually wanted him to go because the club / team had simply been treading water for a number of years.
Nil Satis Nisi Optimum had been replaced by the ‘Well, youve had some good times havent you? mentality.
And we didnt ‘lay out the red carpet on his return because we believe he will, at best, get us back to that same ‘best of the rest state of limbo whilst someone who could have done a better job wont get their opportunity for 30 months.
We will be grateful if he does a decent job but unless he reveals a hitherto unrevealed level of team crafting he will just be a hardworking bloke delaying the hiring of the genuine EFC messiah.
304 Posted 21/01/2025 at 01:01:47
Even if one of these are taken off it ends up backs to the wall.
305 Posted 21/01/2025 at 19:18:54
And just proves Wiki is not always right.
The other one is Scandinavia is a geological peninsula of Norway, Sweden and Denmark. It does not include Finland as my wife is keen to tell me and the kids.
Cue both kids in Geography Lessons at school correcting the teacher when they said Scandinavia is Denmark, Sweden, Norway and Finland.
Anyway, having left the land of ä å and ö and through the one of ø and æ we are now overnighting in the one with the umlauts.
306 Posted 21/01/2025 at 20:41:12
Where does Iceland fit in?
I can apply for an Irish passport due to family connections. I've not bothered. I go to various parts of Europe several times a year but I'm unlikely to stay for 180 days. A bit like the US.
Even when Everton are back in Europe, I won't need it.
TW is great. Long live the Geography lessons!!!
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1 Posted 19/01/2025 at 12:44:51
OBrien for Young at right-back, and Lindstrøm for Harrison.