Crystal Palace 1 – 2 Everton
After the intense last-minute drama of Wednesday night, David Moyes must reinvigorate his dwindling resources as the team head to South London and a televised early evening game at Selhurst Park.
The impact from that midweek game which saw a vital point salvaged at the end includes medial ligament damage to Iliman Ndaye’s knee that will keep him out for an unspecified time, and that represents a massive loss to the limited creativity of the side.
Also, Abdoulaye Doucoure misses the game as a result of the red card Michael Oliver showed him for celebrating in front of the Liverpool fans and then being assaulted by Curtis Jones, who was also show na red card.
Ndiaye and Doucoure bring the total number of Everton players missing to nine: Mangala, McNeil, Chermiti, Broja, Calvert-Lewin, Patterson and Coleman are all out injured, leaving David Moyes with a few very limited options for adjusting his team selection to counter the threat that Crystal Palace present, with Charly Alcaraz given his first start, Harrison replacing Ndiaye.
And there are now four young lads from the Everton Academy on the bench: Martin Sherif (18); Coby Ebere (19); Isaac Heath, (20) and Roman Dixon (20).
Everton kicked off in the established manner, Pickford’s punt conceding possession, Branthwaite then trying to release Lindstrom. The early exchanges saw Alcaraz easily robbed but he did well to win it back moments later, then he was fouled in midfield.
But Tarkowski put Branthwaite in difficulty, with Mateta the one to profit, Pickford saving his shot confidently, before Devenny did a reprise, forcing a similar save from the Everton goalkeeper. Alcaraz got Everton into the Palace penalty area for the first time but Hughes went for the ball as he made to shoot and the Palace man was given the debatable free-kick decision.
Palace forced an attack but the ball was cleared and Everton tried to build with Beto testing Lacroix. Hughes was given space to shoot but finally closed down as he did, Everton living on their defensive wits until Beto almost released Alcaraz, getting his shirt pulled by Hughes – but no yellow card – nor when Harrison then caught Hughes.
Pickford made a fabulous save when Guehi headed an excellent Lacroix cross powerfully at goal. Fromm the corner, Lerma powered his header into the net but the officials thankfully thought it had drifted out of play and VAR kindly failed to overturn the onfield decision, although it looked marginal at best.
Everton finally got forward for a spell of play in Palace aresa. On the second attempt, Harrison put in a low cross that was slightly defected and evaded three Everton players looking to convert. But Palace responded, mounting a frenetic attack of their own, with Mateta fouled but advantage played.
It was end to end as Beto cleared a Palace attack and then drove forward, the game being very competitive on both sides. Gueye won the ball cleverly from Hughes but Harrison could not follow through and Palace looked to break but Pickford was out smartly.
Alcaraz set Harrison off again and his deep cross to Lindstrom was volleyed in smartly, Henderson and Lacroix colliding, with Beto going a fraction too far forward. Henderson needed treatment before the game resumed, Alcaraz snatching a chance to test him from distance, but not enough guile or power on his shot.
Harrison got the ball and played it in for Alcaraz to have another attempt but this one was horribly mishit. Lacroix rolled a dangerous ball through to Mateta, Pickford out briskly to intercept. Place return with interest but it became messy in the Everton area and the whistle was blown.
At the other end, Beto tried to cause more havoc but only fouled his man. Everton should have advanced from O’Brien’s interception but it was Palace who attacked again, the ball finally coming through to Pickford.
Palace worked their way through the Everton defence, Richards forcing his way through and Shar rattling the bar with an incredible shot from close range when it looked easier to score. It seemed to shake everyone up and Alcaraz worked very hard to cheekily steal the ball at a Palace throw-in and play in Beto who squeezed it between Munoz and Henderson, into the Palace net for an excellent Everton goal to give them the lead.
Mykolenko was chopped down, but Branthwaite’s free-kick didn’t quite reach Lindstrom. Palace were awarded a free kick in added time, Pickford catching it competently. It had been a very lively first half – made all the better by that splendid goal created by Alcaraz and finished superbly by Beto.
The home side won an early free kick that forced a corner, the ball falling to Mateta after O’Brien and Tarkowski went for the same ball, and he slotted it past Pickford, confirmed after a ridiculously long VAR check.
Everton tried toi respond but a lot of silly head tennis thwartred that, Eze showing how to progress the ball forward and shoot powerfully, just over the Everton bar. But Everton responded, Beto setting up Lindstrom for possibly his best shot at goal, anticipated brilliantly by Henderson, who pawed it away.
Palace then countered, and forced a corner, with Everton’s defence looking shaky, having finally been penetrated. But still Everton pushed forward, Alcaraz having his shot blocked by Hughes.
A great Everton move saw Lindstrom beat his man and cross to Beto who tried to be a little too subtle this time and Henderson and Lacroix somehow kept it out. Alcaraz was called for a strong shoulder charge on Guehi.
Palace had been boosted by the goal and some key substitutions, with Everton struggling to adjust as they came under repeated bombardment. A n Eze corner was headed away by Branthwaite. Everton got forward, Gueye’s shoot deflected wide for an Everton corner but Place broke and Garner had to stop Eze, for the first yellow card of the game.
Everton looked to build again but Harrison’s loose cross put an end to it. Palace countered and Chilwell’s shot across goal forced a fingertip save from Pickford and a corner that needed plenty of defending at was recycled a few times before going out for a goal kick.
70 minutes gone and still no subs for what must be an exhausted Everton side looking now to protect a precious point. But it was still really competitive in midfield, with Alcaraz almost chiseling out an opportunity that was blocked for Beto.
Gueye stole the ball off Wharton and fed Beto but his cross cum shot was bneither one thing nor the other, and he was finally flagged offside. Ashley Young finally came on for Jesper Lindstrom.
Branthwaite’s free-kick was Harrison, A cross was dug out to the far post, O’brine’s attempt came out to Young who’s shot bounced back off Wharton to Alcaraz who made absolutely no mistake to give Everton the lead again. Brilliant stuff from the Blues!
Palace tried to respond but Beto threw himself in front of a defender, winning another free-kick, but it was wasted. Branthwaite needed to make a very clever intervention to stop Mateta without fouling him as Everton sought to take the sting out of the final minutes. Eze got free but fired wide across goal.
The frenetic pace of the game would not let up though, with Beto and Harrison up for the chase to put more pressure on a very frustrated Palace side. Only 6 minutes added on despite 7 subs and 5 minutes for VAR.
Beto did very well to win the ball high up and push it out to Young but he could not win the corner and Palace came back for more. A fantastic Palace cross in to the far post was defended brilliantly and Everton continued to battle for the ball against the .rlentless efforts of their opponenet =s.
A fine Chilwell cross was headed away by Bramnthwaite, then Tarkowski was very smart in denying Mateta. The ball almost fell to one of three Palace players but it was belted away. The pressure on Everton was intense but Everton could finally celebrate a massive win.
Crystal Palace: Henderson, Munoz, Richards, Lacroix (86’ Nketiah), Guehi, Mitchell (60’ Chilwell), Hughes (86’ Kamada), Lerma (46’ Wharton), Sarr, Devenny (46’ Eze), Mateta.
Subs not Used: Turner, Clyne, Esse, Kporha.
Everton: Pickford, O’Brien, Tarkowski, Branthwaite, Mykolenko, Gana, Garner [Y:67’], Alcaraz (86’ Iroegbunam), Lindstrom (79’ Young), Harrison, Beto.
Subs not Used: Virginia, Begovic, Keane, Sherif, Dixon, Heath, Ebere.
Referee: Anthony Taylor
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2 Posted 15/02/2025 at 19:44:47
3 Posted 15/02/2025 at 19:46:32
4 Posted 15/02/2025 at 19:48:03
5 Posted 15/02/2025 at 19:52:31
6 Posted 15/02/2025 at 19:56:06
I tried to describe that winning goal... great finish — but so much luck in the handball from the defender O'Brien headed onto, then the dreadful shot by Young, into the ground, and off Wharton I think, straight to Alcaraz, who makes no mistake!
And that bloody stupid xG — Palace twice Everton's. What nonsense.
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7 Posted 15/02/2025 at 19:57:48
Thats why we keep MK in the team haha
8 Posted 15/02/2025 at 20:01:10
Dont let it wither and die.
9 Posted 15/02/2025 at 20:01:57
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10 Posted 15/02/2025 at 20:06:02
That was never the plan to let that site die. What is the point to acquire a site and let it Die ?
MK is part of a plan to give you more and more info on your beloved club.
Building a team that has réal interest on Everton takes a Little time. But it is sorry the wait.
11 Posted 15/02/2025 at 20:07:29
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12 Posted 15/02/2025 at 20:08:16
Your support and trust is Precious to us
13 Posted 15/02/2025 at 20:10:02
14 Posted 15/02/2025 at 20:10:20
I knew youd be back — great report as usual.
I think a few of us will make Charles an offer he cant refuse!
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15 Posted 15/02/2025 at 20:14:13
16 Posted 15/02/2025 at 20:14:41
I posted my general thoughts on the game on Conors thread so Ill just ask for one clarification on this one:
Does anyone know why their goalie ended up restarting the game after he collided with his own player and another defender punted the loose ball out of play. I dont think the ref had blown his whistle before the ball went out and if the defender had (somehow) sliced the ball into his own goal under those circumstances surely the goal would have stood.
One thing for Charles. It surely cant take too much time to keep the league table up to date? Not even updated after the midweek game.
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17 Posted 15/02/2025 at 20:15:02
Means a lot.
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18 Posted 15/02/2025 at 20:19:13
I am not in charge of technical stuff. Ive push the button on the back office but doesnt seem to work.
Thats one priority on monday morning.
19 Posted 15/02/2025 at 20:21:32
Classic Michael, excellent report!
20 Posted 15/02/2025 at 20:27:23
21 Posted 15/02/2025 at 20:28:45
Davey Moyes seems to be thriving. Just watched his after match interview and it looks like hes shed 10 years somehow!
22 Posted 15/02/2025 at 20:28:56
In all seriousness though, great to see you posting again Michael. And great to be celebrating another win with a centre forward that actually scores goals.
23 Posted 15/02/2025 at 20:29:19
24 Posted 15/02/2025 at 20:29:35
Nice to have you back but you may have been wrong about Moyes😂
25 Posted 15/02/2025 at 20:37:55
26 Posted 15/02/2025 at 20:42:09
I was 100% wrong. The results and performances speak for themselves. My sincerest apologies Mr. Moyes, COYB 💙
27 Posted 15/02/2025 at 20:53:55
So Im not eating humble pie for a while yet.
That said, he has done more in a short time than I thought even a manager of his competence would and so that 30 month contract doesnt seem to be over the top, as I did judge it to be at first sight.
28 Posted 15/02/2025 at 20:57:53
An away victory and Michael back...
ToffeeWeb is starting to look familiar again.
29 Posted 15/02/2025 at 21:03:45
Anyway, brilliant away win. Lots of momentum in our favour and looking up not down.
Relegation is not even an issue now. Looking up. Not looking down. Let's enjoy the rest of the season.
30 Posted 15/02/2025 at 21:13:02
Joking aside, brilliant to see you back on here Michael.
31 Posted 15/02/2025 at 21:18:35
32 Posted 15/02/2025 at 21:22:02
I've had a cream cake to try and assimilate the surprise.
33 Posted 15/02/2025 at 21:27:16
Today Beto was incredible. Well done to him for persevering - he was having a horrible time under Dyche.
Also a word for Alcaraz he is just the type of player I want see at Everton like Ndiaye he is young with bags of energy and football brain.
It's becoming enjoyable to watch us play again.
35 Posted 15/02/2025 at 21:28:26
36 Posted 15/02/2025 at 21:34:37
The only point worth debating at the time as far as I was concerned was whether anyone could even be guaranteed to save us this season. I thought even that would be a tough ask for anyone although I did believe it was possible.
Fantastic job by Davey Moyes so far. Doesnt mean he was the only one could have done it and is no guarantee he will go on to exceed his previous best efforts in the future.
37 Posted 15/02/2025 at 21:42:41
Relegation is now all but gone as a realistic possibility and the sights will be set on 11th-ish. I was pleased at Moyes appointment and obviously delighted at his start. Whether he is the optimal option for long term is not a question for now. No doubt there will be losses on the horizon and toothless days which will give the Moyes Out Brigade fresh life but for now hes probably already done the job that he was brought in to do and we will be playing Premier League football at Barkley Moore next season.
Particularly helpful will be giving Thelwell (or whoever is leading recruitment) foresight of our situation next season and accordingly good time to plan this summer.
38 Posted 15/02/2025 at 21:44:56
39 Posted 15/02/2025 at 21:56:49
Soaking wet pitch, I saw nothing wrong with Youngs shot, especially when the defender could only block it into Alcatrazs path, rather than watch it blaze over the bar (which would have been pathetic) and just like the other night, Ashley Young has come on and made an impact.
Incredible for his age and Moyes, is another who looks to have improved after accumulating a lot of experience👏
40 Posted 15/02/2025 at 22:02:17
Since the Bosman ruling was in 1995, Moyes wasnt as completely hamstrung by that policy as some people like to make out.
41 Posted 15/02/2025 at 22:02:37
42 Posted 15/02/2025 at 22:05:54
Just asking for a friend.
43 Posted 15/02/2025 at 22:09:00
The test will only come once he his allowed to spend a bit of money, imo, because once we improve, only then will we find out if he has got more nerve and the self- belief that is needed to win
44 Posted 15/02/2025 at 22:25:12
45 Posted 15/02/2025 at 22:57:32
Obviously Lyndon and Michael are devout Toffees and the credentials of the current site managers are unknown. That said, I am very impressed they have aligned with a 100% (sometimes contentious!) Toffee in publishing his match summary. Well done!
Lyndon's contributions on TW would be welcome to me too, but for all I know he's "moved on" in his life and his published loyalties will be for others to try to find.
Tonight's game was to me the epitome of what professional players should be doing as a matter of course. I'm made up that Beto is now starting to show himself to be a beast to opponents and I credit our latest manager and coaching team in instigating what is so good for him and us.
O'Brien impresses me, and Branthwaite is immense (hats off to Brands for that).
But then again Keiran Dowell of similar age to O'Brien impressed me before turning out to be a mere bog-standard player of hardly any interest to anyone at all of note (now aged 27, with a mere handful of Premier League games as a lad, he's quickly on lone from Rangers to third-tier Birmingham).
And that comment causes me to ask if anyone is still interested in defending Finch Farm in terms of developing players of any real ability at all, or does Friedkin see what I see; namely a flatulent, bumbling, mediocrity inducing swamp of ineffectiveness that permeates the club from the heart and therefore largely throughout, despite the (very occasional) signing of a potentially game-changing player?
46 Posted 15/02/2025 at 23:52:46
47 Posted 15/02/2025 at 23:56:28
48 Posted 15/02/2025 at 00:13:22
"Gonna make you an offer you can't refuse
Gonna put my finger on you
'Cause I need you so
And I won't take no for an answer"
Never mind, it doesn't really matter. What matters is Moyes was made an offer he couldn't refuse...and I have to say - I'm glad he didn't ( glances down at WHU...therein lies another whole discussion).
I have to admit my memories of Moyes Mk I were clouding my opinion on the appointment of Moyes Mk II.
You can only beat what is put infront of you, or so they say and over the last 12mths under their 'new' Coach...whose name escapes me at the moment (and to be honest, I don't really care)...Palace are (allegedly) worth 58pts from 38 games - so call it about 8th or 9th in the table.
Given the limited choice from the bench...did anybody really think any of the 3(?) potential debutantes would get so much as a minute? No, me neither...Moyes played it exactly right*
* It was the ultimate QED; it was right because it worked and it worked because was right (some of us remember bringing Hibbo on at 1-1 Vs Spurs only to lose 1-2 but that was Moyes Mk I )
It wasn't broken so he didn't fix it.
KITAP1 became KITAP2
Job done; Pickfork my MotM.
Edit; How long this run goes on for (please, please, ffs, don't give Moyes The Manager of the Month thing - it's the kiss of death) who knows?
How do we react when we do lose - as we will one day, again who knows?
At what stage in the season will...hopefully not at all...the players realise they're safe, put on the mental sunglasses and flip flops and coast through the motions thinking of summer.
For the answers to these and other burning question - stay tuned!
Same Moyes time,
Same Moyes Channel.
49 Posted 16/02/2025 at 00:13:58
I, like many others, wasnt over the moon with Moyes appointment but Fcuk me - we are a completely different team since he got a grip.
What a week for him, Beto, James Tarkowski and Charly Alcaraz, Charly Alcaraz, nanananananananah, Charly Alcaraz….and Davey Moyes, and US - the best supporters in the land!
Everton are Magic!
Love this club
Xxx
50 Posted 16/02/2025 at 00:18:14
They shalt not pass!
And they didnt
UTFT
51 Posted 16/02/2025 at 00:35:29
Talk on the coach back home is of European football next season!!
Joking of course, but it's a far happier coach journey back home than the majority of games this season.
52 Posted 16/02/2025 at 00:38:51
53 Posted 16/02/2025 at 00:48:23
Just watching MOTD.
See you at Brentford.
UTFAwesomeT
54 Posted 16/02/2025 at 01:15:35
Onto the match, I gave us little chance today. Maybe because my only competitive match I have seen live at Selhurst Park saw us being thrashed by Wimbledon in '96.
What I would say it that the recent results have made the Moyes doubters look particularly stupid and it would be nice if they swallowed their pride and saw the events surrounding his exit in context. But instead I keep encountering Toffees who now worship him despite being really derogatory only a month ago?
55 Posted 16/02/2025 at 01:18:46
56 Posted 16/02/2025 at 02:34:15
57 Posted 16/02/2025 at 02:49:25
I think this has been his best ever all round display. Oh, what a change in manager can do? Well dine Davy!
58 Posted 16/02/2025 at 04:11:36
We deserved this. Moyes has been a lovely surprise for me. We keep getting injuries, but we keep on getting results. Cant argue with that.
Good to see the ED back and read some wonderful happy posts, but you have got to laugh at post 45 - "Hats off to Brands for that" - Priceless.
59 Posted 16/02/2025 at 04:15:49
Something else for you to ignore.
60 Posted 16/02/2025 at 04:31:18
Play him through and he is deadly. A chance completion rate of 44% in the last 4 games. He works incredibly hard and has suddenly also realised that he is massive - he bossed Konate and VVD in the derby.
Must admit I had written the guy off!
61 Posted 16/02/2025 at 05:34:54
62 Posted 16/02/2025 at 05:55:47
Steve, only once before in his career has Beto had a patch this purple -- 4 in 4 for Udinese three years ago -- but if you check out his highlights on Youtube you'll see him scoring recurrently in Serie A on defense-splitting runs just like we've seen in the past few games. It's his style.
63 Posted 16/02/2025 at 07:11:53
Expect him to be stretchered off in the next Derby game. And no card given of course.
64 Posted 16/02/2025 at 07:36:59
You were not alone Steve mate. To be fair, Dyches's handling of him was shocking, preferring the long ball to lonely DCL rather than for Beto to run on to.
Beto must be on cloud 9 right now. He seems so confident one-on-one or with a defender to shrug off unlike, sadly, DCL. No way DCL would start now even if he was injury free.
Kudos to Mr. Gaynes and others who stuck by him. If Broja had been fit in mid-January, it is likely that Beto would have been sold. Small margins.
We would make a nice little profit on Beto if he could be sold on Monday.
65 Posted 16/02/2025 at 07:50:49
66 Posted 16/02/2025 at 08:44:11
In your post you write "generally I think us fans could try and be more understanding of players individual circumstances", bud that is understatement of the year.
How many on here are quick to jump on players, label them as dogshit and then lambast them? Remember Iwobi? Pickford was widely slated on here a few years back, our most consistent performer over the last few years.
I could go on and find other examples, then of course there are the players who were hounded out or turned on, some who couldn't wait to end their Everton nightmare.
What I am trying to say is we have one of the best and most passionate fan bases in the PL, if we could stop with the player bashing (i know I post this all the time, sorry!) and utilise this to drive and motivate players then we would undoubtedly turn this ship around for good IMO.
How we achieve that is a very complex thing. The toxic combination of historical expectations and many years of mismanagement and subsequent frustration are large contributing factors of course.
I think Moyes (his detractors are very quiet on here at the moment btw!) has been almost flawless in the media since being re-appointed. I applaud his attempts to address the issue by mentioning the crowd and the relationship to the players. He is trying to re-unite us and them, something Dyche failed to do quite spectacularly.
67 Posted 16/02/2025 at 08:59:12
The calmness Young showed when he came on especially keeping the Palace player away from the ball and harness it out of play, there was plenty of panic in the Everton defence throughout the game but Young illustrated the way to play.
He wont get but Young is my player of the season for his consistent performances right through this season and maybe the least mistakes.
68 Posted 16/02/2025 at 09:10:42
Nice one Michael Kendrick. Good report.
I noticed that too Si, it seems that Nosferatu has been banished.
69 Posted 16/02/2025 at 09:25:16
Contrast that with something that hasn't been mentioned... when Harrison was given the ball down the left side in the last few minutes. Just keep it there you're thinking. Not only did he immediately play it out for a goal kick, but he actually went and got the ball and returned it to the keeper!
I can't quite figure out how people think Harrison has improved. He's still constantly losing the ball and he's not got much between his ears.
70 Posted 16/02/2025 at 09:31:21
Doesn't it feel better to win games again.
71 Posted 16/02/2025 at 10:08:25
Getting back to the game, I thought it was obvious after the monumental efforts the lads put in on Wednesday, that they were bound to be a bit leggy, and probably mentally not were they wanted to be. Because of injuries and suspensions Moyes had very little changes he could make, but somehow he has got this team to get a result when not performing at their best.
I know on his return Moyes said that we were getting a different Moyes than the one who left. I am sure he can still hand out bollockings when needed but he seems a lot calmer and more studied in what he does. I always wanted him back but I know many didn't, but even those that didnt must agree the difference has been remarkable. He has improved players individually and the team collectively. O,Brien couldn't get a game and while he will probably end up alongside Branthwaite he is doing a solid job at right back. But the player who looks transformed under Moyes has to be Beto, while we like he always gives his all many including me thought he wasn't up to Premier league level. How wrong I was and I doubt at present I would change him for any of the other strikers at the club.
Who would have thought that after just half a dozen games we would be nearly safe from relegation. I think we can all look forward to our first season at BMD being in the Premier league. I get to see BMD on Monday along with the other 17,000 lucky enough to get tickets, cant wait.
72 Posted 16/02/2025 at 10:38:21
For the record, and based on the highlights, Moyes comments and most importantly Michaels report, looks like we were a bit lucky to get all 3 points. But winning builds confidence and no reason why we cant keep climbing. 30 points by mid Feb, its like a dream.
But you make your own luck dont you?
You cant score if you just sit back and defend, get up the pitch and things happen (Dycheosaur didnt understand this at all, was always looking for excuses for a defensive set up).
Its a bit rough on DCL, but hes had enough opportunities. Beto has been clinical and his finishing has looked top drawer to me. Its early days but if he gets on well with Alcaraz then it could get even better.
Up the Toffees and up the table we go!
73 Posted 16/02/2025 at 10:56:31
74 Posted 16/02/2025 at 11:09:37
Looking forward to seeing the retraction of your anti-Moyes diatribe, Michael (wink-wink)!
75 Posted 16/02/2025 at 11:13:19
76 Posted 16/02/2025 at 11:21:00
I dont have any particular beef with their fans but I am sick to death of them hogging the sports pages and the media in general (other than the ongoing love-in for the Red c***s). Whether its months of speculation during the summer as to who they might sign; or the ins and outs of a cats of arse when it comes to something utterly unimportant that just so happens to relate to them.
I think a certain David Moyes is also showing how shite Amorim is. With that squad, he shouldve turned the corner and be motoring up the table by now.
77 Posted 16/02/2025 at 11:22:52
Who are you and what have you done with Paul Ferry??
UTFT
78 Posted 16/02/2025 at 11:32:50
Palace could have been 3 up at half time if it wasn't for England's number 1.
We got our act together a bit after their equaliser and looked a bit more organised, I think alcaraz didn't know whether to stick or twist a lot of the time but was Johnny on the spot with a calm finish to win us the game. He moves a bit like Alexis Sanchez with his low centre of gravity. Beto again making life hard for the oppo defenders something DCL hasn't done all season.
Pickford my motm this time around.
We got the rub of the green in this game which has eluded us for most of the season. Are we still riding the new manager bounce?
We are functional at best which is an improvement on where Dyche was taking us.
I do think there is a massive test ahead for Moyes this summer. Many out of contract in an already weakened squad.
Makes a change but I am looking forward to the united game next week.
79 Posted 16/02/2025 at 11:34:03
So welcome back and very glad you are back.
Moyes's loan spell at Manchester , London and Spain seems to have done him alot of good.
80 Posted 16/02/2025 at 11:47:18
I was totally anti Moyes returning. A leopard never
changes his spots but hes done brilliantly so far.
I love Alcarez already. After the brawl on Wednesday
he probably thought hed died and gone to heaven.
Doucoure would probably have passed that ball
behind Beto.
81 Posted 16/02/2025 at 11:47:21
I was totally anti Moyes returning. A leopard never
changes his spots but hes done brilliantly so far.
I love Alcarez already. After the brawl on Wednesday
he probably thought hed died and gone to heaven.
Doucoure would probably have passed that ball
behind Beto.
82 Posted 16/02/2025 at 11:59:29
The one I am excited about is Tim- he has everything he needs to become a top player and Moyes will be good for him.
I would add my greetings to MK- great to see you on board Michael!!
83 Posted 16/02/2025 at 12:26:08
Beto was superb as was the midfield duo of Gana & Garner who never stopped running
JB was largely excellent and we may have found one in Alcaraz!
COYB!
84 Posted 16/02/2025 at 12:38:00
85 Posted 16/02/2025 at 13:21:14
How about Betos Battleground?
86 Posted 16/02/2025 at 13:33:54
Just now waiting for next week. Remember, we are Everton. United at home. Revenge for the drubbing at their place. Moyes able to sit with a smug face and should never have sacked me. Not a hope. You know the result. Dang!
87 Posted 16/02/2025 at 13:41:19
88 Posted 16/02/2025 at 14:23:54
Humble pie time, I described Beto as Rondon without the skill and fitness. Well, how magnificently wrong was that. Beto has been superb, Moyes has been superb and Kenrick was man of the match.
Well done Pete Moore, by the way, who has championed Beto as much as anyone.
89 Posted 16/02/2025 at 14:42:51
Dave@67, agree on young. Not just last night, his experience shines through constantly. No prior connection with Everton, I wonder if he's thinking of a career in coaching?
Charles, great move bringing back Michael. We all understand change and adjusting to change takes time. We can live with that and remain supportive. There is a place for both ToffeeWeb and Lyndon's new project and we all want both to succeed as they are complimentary rather than competitors.
Where is my offer I can't refuse?!!
Welcome back Michael, I still don't know how you manage those as it happens reports. I often have to ask who scored!!
Finally, Mr Murphy. Never mind Rob. What about me?!! Great to see you both and the guy who shall now be known as Barry. Pub joke for those wondering wandering what I'm talking about. Those who understand, need no explanation as the saying goes!!
90 Posted 16/02/2025 at 15:10:14
I think it's a side-effect of being stuck a long way from 'home' on the left side of Yankeeland for so many years, and only having a TV feed of the game to live off, with fortunately every single Premier League game available to watch live as it happens. (Still astounds me that they work so hard to prevent such freedom of choice here in this country…)
You really do get spoilt by the in-depth, in-your-face, full-on coverage, with some dudes also telling you what's going on, and what the ref's doing, and why. Plus of course the fantastic immediacy and full-frontal exposure of the instant slo-motion replay.
As for being there, only about 25 people who were sat either end of the goalline could have judged that Palace corner kick curved out before it swung back in and was headed into the net.
Strangely, Premier League Productions or whoever they are never mentioned the critical role of the linesman in this instance: he was on the far side, but looking intently along the line, and raised his flag after the goal was 'scored', no doubt having a word in Anthony Taylor's shell-like as he immediately indicated no goal.
I was going to say that was an example of the luck that usually goes against us — imagine that scenario playing out at Anfield! It would never in a million years be disallowed.
But we rode our luck — fully deserved based on effort and commitment — and came away with 3 precious points. It may have been a 'poor' performance technically but for spirit, desire and commitment, I think it was exceptional.
91 Posted 16/02/2025 at 15:27:08
92 Posted 16/02/2025 at 15:44:11
93 Posted 16/02/2025 at 15:44:16
I did think it was out.
94 Posted 16/02/2025 at 15:56:49
95 Posted 16/02/2025 at 16:04:24
96 Posted 16/02/2025 at 16:50:11
97 Posted 16/02/2025 at 17:18:25
98 Posted 16/02/2025 at 17:37:28
99 Posted 16/02/2025 at 17:41:16
Yes, Barry…. I get it. Rob has known him for ages but still doesnt know his name. He actually asked him twice yesterday but “Barry” just blanked him. I think he said something we would associate with another Barry on here so Rob christened him that.
Re their disallowed goal, I was near Rob and everyone around me knew the ball had gone out. What we couldnt understand is why that Lino waited for the ball to hit the net before putting the flag up? We thought hed missed it. I understand why they keep their flags down in certain situations but the ball was out of play so no scenario other than a goal kick could result.
There was also another strange decision on the other side of the pitch in the first half. One of our players, I think it might have been Lindstrom, won a strong tackle and we had the ball. The palace player went down and the ref stopped play, resuming with a drop ball. He didnt give a foul and the palace player wasnt seriously injured, so why did the ref stop play?? It totally stopped a possible attack by us for no reason that I could see?
100 Posted 16/02/2025 at 18:32:19
Still enough for plenty of them to crumple to the deck these days, and the ref would have seen a head clash, but there was nothing that actually needed treatment.
101 Posted 16/02/2025 at 18:41:26
102 Posted 16/02/2025 at 19:29:31
Ah Mark! You never lt me down.
So glad that you, Rob, Danny, Barry and the rest had a great day yesterday.
103 Posted 16/02/2025 at 20:06:21
Last Season's results at GP to this season
Bournemouth - Won 3-0, Lost 2-3
Forest - Won 2-0, Lost 0-2
Newcastle - Won 3-0, Drew 0-0
Chelsea - Won 2-0, Drew 0-0
Liverpool - Won 2-0, Drew 2-2
Brentford - Won 1-0, Drew 0-0
Brighton - Drew 1-1, Lost 0-3
Villa - Drew 0-0, Lost 0-1
Fulham - Lost 0-1, Drew 1-1
Palace - Drew 1-1, Won 2-1
Spurs - Drew 2-2, Won 3-2
Luton/Leicester - Lost 1-2, Won 4-0
Wolves - Lost 0-1, Won 4-0
So whilst 43% of games in the Premier League this season have had the same outcome, every match at GP has had a different result to last season.
104 Posted 16/02/2025 at 20:17:22
I was at Southampton earlier in the season and just knew we werent going to win that. Since then Ive seen a completely different attitude at Brighton and Palace and Im actually enjoying the games, not just the pre and post match socialising.
UTFT
105 Posted 16/02/2025 at 20:52:22
Such a difference in attitudes and Alcaraz is showing up with real intentions.
Yes, it wasn't great yesterday but when you still get the points who cares.
Manure still below us so lets keep them there on Saturday.
106 Posted 16/02/2025 at 22:33:06
Im not going to ignore you because Ive got some great news.
Firstly, I dont want you to worry your little head about not putting the full details of my critique of the previous set up because lets be honest its just what you do.
The great news is Im coming to Chicago on business in a month and if youre free we can finally discuss your issue with me man to man.
Pop a contact point on here - email, home address even your place of work and Ill make arrangements.
Pointless snarking over the web dont you think?
107 Posted 16/02/2025 at 22:55:46
We need Eugene Ruane back!
108 Posted 16/02/2025 at 23:34:22
In the other equally blue corner is Paul "The Fairy" Ferry... he moves like a bee and stings like a butterfly.
Ding ding Round 1.
Ferry is on the front foot...a dissertation, a PHD... he's almost AILi like (see what I did there?}.
Meanwhile "The Wrath" is almost off his stool.
Ding, ding... end of Round 1.
Difficult one to call.
109 Posted 16/02/2025 at 23:46:50
Will it be televised, if so, what channel ?
Boxing Gloves or Handbags ? :-)
110 Posted 16/02/2025 at 23:59:12
"De Sade"...they're having a "whip round" after.
Sorry...
111 Posted 17/02/2025 at 00:09:32
ToffeeWeb is all the better for it.
Great win yesterday. We seem to have the hoodoo over Palace lets hope we can beat the other red shite next week.
Good luck to the U18s on Monday at BMD. Lets hope its televised or at least captured on video.
112 Posted 17/02/2025 at 02:18:39
113 Posted 17/02/2025 at 03:32:47
114 Posted 17/02/2025 at 07:20:52
Barry Rathbone:3: “Two things I don't understand from the hand wringing anguished of old TW / If your fragile little arses can't cope then piss off to another site alternatively stop expecting to be spoon fed and write your own stuff/ I hoped the lunatic antagonists from the old site would follow LL but I see some of the desperados are flitting between both sites/ Piss or get off the pot”.
Seriously, who on earth would want to spend an atom of their life with someone who can write this self-appointed piece of narcissistic crap? Who the feck are you Gripes, an often isolated/solitary figure on here, to dictate like this? Its like a tiddly little larva telling a caterpillar what to do or Sanchez biting necks.
There is no way that you are a business-man Gripes of Rath. Im a porn star, by the way, in demand for my ability to edge and release a virtual tsunami. Nor are you coming to the Mid-West next month. Sad, really. Are you coming here "on business" for a hit? The editor of The Chicago Tribune is not very popular at the moment or the head of the Opera House.
So, what is this nasty ear-eating tiny Tyson up to? I think I know. It is a moment of pathos, but you issue your challenge to a duel in the hope that I will say no so that you Gripes can forever crow about Yellow Ferry or maybe you can call me Séamus an Chaca a Chaill Eire (‘James the shit who lost Ireland) as Irish Catholics call James-II who put up a 0-5 Rush Derby performance at the Battle of the Boyne?
I would rather spend time with Benitez, Stevie Me, Tommy Smith, the three hard-boiled eggs, Richard Dodd, Ringo Starr, Mark Murphy, Stephen Miller, Benjamin gobshite Netanyahu, the twat keyboard player from New Musik (World of Water/Living by Numbers: p.s. the bass players name is Tony Hibbert, I kid you not) etc.
So, we can do this. You, Gripes of Rath, give me your email address on here, if you have one, and I will get in touch. This may lead to a conversation. Ill call you, my calls to England are free.
And, if you appear reasonable rather than the Attila the Hun on the Everyone's a critic? thread, then we could meet. Happy to host if it all works out. Ill cook dinner. I love to cook. Is Middle Eastern OK? But, big but, try and be reasonable and convince me that you are a decent fella to be welcomed in mine and Taras household.
I am usually not here Monday evening/Thursday during term time but next month there is Spring Break for 10 days where I will be here all that time.
115 Posted 17/02/2025 at 07:31:24
Charles and Anjishnu dont worry youll get used to it 😂
116 Posted 17/02/2025 at 07:41:47
Redlaw will fill his trousers at thought of a face-to-face. He'll be looking at ways to stop all transport into the windy city.
Forget thriller in Manila. Think Embargo in Chicago
117 Posted 17/02/2025 at 07:43:18
118 Posted 17/02/2025 at 07:47:11
P F This soiree to be held at your's will it be a candlelit affair ? Will Barry bring a bottle ? (no cheap shit Baz, Aussie White/Bentox/Buckfast/Red Biddy etc) :-)
119 Posted 17/02/2025 at 07:49:45
You Crooksy, are the heavy dated cumbersome, and awkward Spanish galleons in 1588. I am the lighter, sleeker, more flexible English ships who dart in and out giving hits, taking the piss.
120 Posted 17/02/2025 at 07:58:25
121 Posted 17/02/2025 at 07:58:27
Todays “journalists” are a bunch of mercenaries in the back pockets of the sky 6 and the Murdoch media empire.
Henry Winter might be the last one standing.
122 Posted 17/02/2025 at 08:02:38
I've seen more intimidating pedalos.
Haven`t laughed so much to you announced to a hysterical TW audience that you were "kinda smart"
123 Posted 17/02/2025 at 08:08:50
124 Posted 17/02/2025 at 08:09:46
Erm, hang on a minute - what have I done to deserve that??
Btw - IF Rob H correctly identified “Barry” on Saturday youd be best advised to decline the challenge - hes massive and mean!
125 Posted 17/02/2025 at 08:10:28
Looks like they are forgoing any formalities like weigh ins Derek, wait, whats this, someone from the crowd has just jumped in, its turned into tag team wrestling. The gloves are off!
126 Posted 17/02/2025 at 08:12:19
127 Posted 17/02/2025 at 08:17:28
Hehehe.
128 Posted 17/02/2025 at 08:23:52
Oh, 127, 'he he he', the vast majority of us on that thread won that one by country miles. Sad you try and cling and keep. AI means artificial intelligence not aged or asanine individual.
129 Posted 17/02/2025 at 08:28:18
‘Alcaraz comes up big in huge Everton win provocative thread.
Blues at each other throats, should be ashamed of yourself.
130 Posted 17/02/2025 at 08:32:21
131 Posted 17/02/2025 at 08:36:23
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132 Posted 17/02/2025 at 08:37:17
Nah, rest easy - I dont think Rob was correct in his identification. The short version is we (Rob Danny and I) were talking and another guy joined in. Rob knew him but said “Ive known you for ages mate but I still dont know your name” but the guy didnt reply (he had a hearing aid in tbf). Rob asked him again later for his name but once again was blanked. Then the guy said something that I didnt catch and Rob said “Kinell, youre not that Barry Rathbone are you”?
And it stuck.
IF it WAS him, you should be ok - some light training beating up dead cows and run up some steps with loads of kids and maybe some light sparring with your trainer Mick (Gaynes) and youll crap lightening and kill him to death, Rock…(Ferry)
UTFT
133 Posted 17/02/2025 at 08:41:30
134 Posted 17/02/2025 at 08:42:12
Remember who you are son and where you`re from. You give it. You take it. All part and parcel. The craic.
Keep that tongue firmly in you cheek
135 Posted 17/02/2025 at 08:44:57
136 Posted 17/02/2025 at 08:46:14
137 Posted 17/02/2025 at 08:47:02
138 Posted 17/02/2025 at 08:49:36
139 Posted 17/02/2025 at 09:49:41
Guess it was my time turn to get Ferried.
Seems that Paul is the only one allowed to move overseas to further his career.
Oh well lets hope he gets a good nights sleep.
140 Posted 17/02/2025 at 09:57:06
Of course youre in porn youre a complete dick and of course you didnt supply contact details because youre a cowardly keyboard warrior.
You flat out refuse to chat with me but want my email to ring me, ha! - the rationale of an inebriated village idiot who thinks idiocy should be advertised.
.
Any interested passers by who would like to watch events unfold (btw I havent offered to box his noggin off my gloves were hung up years ago if hes a good boy Ill just pat him on the head) my associate will film the event and post it on YouTube. Just need to find the cancerous buffoon.
Any details to this email address pls - jackrodwell73@googlemail.com
141 Posted 17/02/2025 at 10:38:02
You label Barry as an aggressive little loner but I have always had a lot of respect for him as he goes against the grain and his views always reflect what he sees as being best for Everton and his frustrations always seem at how the club has been run and why his expectations can be viewed as being so low.
In many of your posts and views I am in agreement with but although I have found myself in perpetual disagreement with Colin and Barry on things like the strength of the squad, the job Dyche was doing and what I View as him being bullshitting and being caught out regarding Jarrads injury, never once did those posters get personal.
Even when I have an alternate viewpoint to yourself I like how you challenge my thought process and construct your argument. I'm thinking about your views on Thelwell here.
The other day I proferred something up to get a thread going as the natives were getting restless. I got a lot of support and a lot of legitimate criticism. It was wordy, it was unprofessional, it was unresearched and mistake ridden.
Only one poster yourself annoyed me by mimicking my use of the word 'fellas'. Even the point you made I had already addressed by stating that I forgot Doucoure was suspended. It therefore seemed a personal and petty post for whatever reason especially when there has been no animosity and often in intellectual agreement.
I know posters love these kind of threads but others avoid this site because of it. I am guessing that's why Lyndon has gone his way. For me Paul I much prefer to see you in your element when on one and taking on all comers regarding Thelwell rather than this petty bollox.
142 Posted 17/02/2025 at 10:51:48
143 Posted 17/02/2025 at 10:51:54
Good post Conor.
The thing is Conor, I made the mistake of telling this clown that my wife passed away 3 years ago so he decides its appropriate to bring her up in one of his vile posts.
Youve crossed the line Ferry…..again!
144 Posted 17/02/2025 at 10:51:55
Good post Conor.
The thing is Conor, I made the mistake of telling this clown that my wife passed away 3 years ago so he decides its appropriate to bring her up in one of his vile posts.
Youve crossed the line Ferry…..again!
145 Posted 17/02/2025 at 10:52:25
146 Posted 17/02/2025 at 10:57:28
147 Posted 17/02/2025 at 11:08:29
Note Owen Hargreaves comment at the end
148 Posted 17/02/2025 at 11:18:13
149 Posted 17/02/2025 at 11:29:13
Well said.
People can disagree all they want it is the nature of the beast but there has to be respect afterall we're supposed to be brothers in arms.
I wasn't going to put this on the forum but Ferry is going to squirm and obfuscate his way out of a face to face so these are responses he evoked in one weekend recently
#1. I was asked an opinion by another poster and I gave it to them. but you (Ferry) decided you want to make unprovoked dig telling me my attitude on a footy forum doesn't help the club - Sigh I was going to retract from calling you a drama queen in retaliation, but you know what ? I think I'll leave that to others to draw their own conclusions about too. #2. Pretty much everybody here reached that conclusion years ago. I just laugh and ignore him (Ferry) #3. We all say daft things and we all get irritated with other peoples daft things, but we move on…… “X” is sound ….. Let it go. (Aimed at Ferry) #4. You (Ferry) do make a fool of yourself with you half-witted attempts to score points against people who have disagreed with you. #5. I know the life of a drama queen (Ferry) must get a little confusing at times when you're not quite sure who to be offended by, or outraged with, but if you (Ferry) cant find peace in your time. Leave me out of your petty vendetta's #6. I would not call someone cretinous in a vitriolic twirl without qualifying - or else I may claim youre (Ferry) a judgmental prick #7. Ive not called you (Ferry) an asshole. But your comment proves you are. #8. Simple to understand unless youre a muppet Paul (Ferry) and virtue signaling when called out. #9. This footy lark entails an awul lot more than sitting sniping at opinion you cant begin to understand
MK doesnt always get it right but he was bang on saying this clown sees stuff he doesnt agree with and kicks off FAR TOO OFTEN.
150 Posted 17/02/2025 at 12:04:32
Lets bask in the warm glow of 13 points from a possible 15.
I may need to check myself into hospital to get the smile surgically removed if these results continue.
151 Posted 17/02/2025 at 12:07:45
152 Posted 17/02/2025 at 12:11:34
However, by the look of the spats going on here ToffeeWeb is well on its way to returning to normal.
153 Posted 17/02/2025 at 12:12:28
Agreed mate, so much want this guy to succeed, maybe he doesnt have all the attributes of a top striker but he is making up with that with effort. As far as Harrison goes, did Leeds under Bielsa play him on the left or the right?
154 Posted 17/02/2025 at 12:33:53
Im very happy with those thirteen points though!
155 Posted 17/02/2025 at 12:39:42
Andy over from Belfast and Peter up from Worcester, we plan to go to Wetherspoons first for a brekkie then on to the Harlech, be great to see you mate. Mind you, early kick-off (12.30) for that one !
156 Posted 17/02/2025 at 12:56:07
157 Posted 17/02/2025 at 12:56:22
I doubt he will have the bottle to meet up with you Barry, bullies, especially keyboard ones, dont when they are actively fronted up face to face.
I just hope he changed his trousers before going to bed after Marks winding up. Cluck, cluck, cluck 🐔 🐓
‘Im more than happy to call it quits and get along after Colin had carved him a new one, was a TW classic.
Do send in the video if it does ever happen though, I think there will be a few very interested to see it.
158 Posted 17/02/2025 at 13:11:07
159 Posted 17/02/2025 at 13:27:06
160 Posted 17/02/2025 at 13:43:59
You are spot on his type never face up.
What a disgusting piece of work Ferry is referencing your dearly departed wife the cowardly hole is a wrong 'un from tip to toe and I strongly suspect he's a congenital liar. It beggars belief that he is an educator.
Imagine the lunatic trying to deal with students disagreeing with him!!
Mind you I imagine in real life he's a little church mouse frightened of his own shadow.
161 Posted 17/02/2025 at 14:38:48
Weve all seen ‘em before Barry. A complete Tit.
My new partner does the same job as him but here in the UK at a British University, she finds it absolutely incredulous that he is what he says he is, though she did caveat it by saying everyone in the States is pretty much called a Professor in education.
He called me Highfalutin excessive exegesis, but then kind of ruined it by calling me a divvy beforehand 😂.
Did you see over the weekend he extended an olive branch to Mike Gaynes with ‘Kudos to Mr Gaynes after completely annihilating him for the last 6 months, or sorry, trying to.
Pity he shit out when you made your offer of a visit. Tried to make it all about sitting down to dinner. All mouth, I was hoping you would leave a little bit of him for me.
Well done you, Colin and Mark all did a proper number on him there mate, comedy gold for TW.
Can we please be mates now Colin 😂🤣
More mixed up than the Beverley Hillbillies.
162 Posted 17/02/2025 at 23:12:25
163 Posted 18/02/2025 at 12:31:45
Thomas Frosts yes I know the gaff Derek, easier than going to town, do my best either there or the Harlech.
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