Blues recover to get a draw after awful first half

Let it Rohl!!!

Should give Armstrong a confidence boost.

Bench looking better.

Subs: Travers, Beto, Dibling, Dewsbury-Hall, Coleman, Alcaraz, Brathwaite, Röhl, Aznou.

The Senegal guys come straight back in. Armstrong apparently at #10, which is awesome.

That's a strong looking line-up.

COYBB

Man Utd have just beaten Man City and Arsenal but have still only picked up 9 points during their last 5 fixtures. This has still only been bettered by one team, with Newcastle gaining 10 points over the same period.

A win tonight would put Everton joint top in the form league and, although we have lost Grealish, our bench is so much stronger tonight.

Another thing is that, in a season of such inconsistency, my own view is that Everton will be one of the fresher teams going into the final third so tonight has now become a really, really important game for the Blues.

I thought our midfield was very fluent against Villa, but certain players always seem to get picked so I just hope it doesn't backfire on us.

Knife-edge fixture, this one, which Everton will show up? Which Leeds will show up?

I wasn't expecting that.

And who will be playing out wide then?

Armstrong? Rohl?

And keep the balance of the team that won at Villa.

Maybe Rohl is a little unlucky.

Glad he keeps the same back 4 and young Armstrong. Finally a strong bench! Only 1 keeper!!

Rohl is on the bench; he is not a starter this evening.

I fully expect a disappointing setback.

And then Alcaraz or Dibling for McNeil.

Minimum changes needed.

I never expected a result in our favour.

I will be surprised, however, if we actually wake up today. Can't wait to get back on the road. Hill Dickinson Stadium is turning into something of a curse.

Awful display. Awful management, Awful coaching. Just fuck off, Moyes.

Another in midfield and proper full-backs would make a real difference for us, I think.

Unbelievable!

Let's have it right.

Great to have Dewsbury-Hall back. I don't know what to say about Barry, shocker of a footballer but was Johnny on the Spot tonight

Dibling needs to shoot and cross when he gets the chance. I know he's young but he gives the impression of being slow and ponderous.

That second half shows that you have to play your best XI. I'd have put Alcaraz on and not Dibling. Decent point given the first half.

When the players attack then the crowd get up for it; it's not hard to understand the lack of atmosphere.

If we want to make something of this season, we need to strengthen over the next week.

If it would've been Aznou, maybe I'd agree with you in some way.

If Gana's shot goes in off the bar, then we are singing everyone's praises. The margins are slim.

Leeds were a worthy opponent and I enjoyed the tactical aspect of tonight's game. Moyes changed the system twice and we got a result when we looked down and out first half.

Sign a quality centre-forward and some wing-backs and we are cooking. We looked good with the twin towers at the back.

Second half was an improvement but still too late!

Is it down to the manager fretting about them as opposed to letting them worry about us?

Why put Dibling on when he has Anzou, Alcaraz and Rohl on the bench? Dibling looked like he had just got out of bed, what a dozy few minutes from him -- and that was a shot not a cross bleedin' pathetic.

Whatever he does in the future, he's not worth a place now and Moyes should know that.

As for Mykolenko someone should pick him up and twat O'Brien over the head with him -- another pair of useless professionals (?)

Barry was an absolute joke for the entire game... except for one moment of excellent skill to turn in that cross.

Dibling must actually be mentally retarded. If he want's to be a footballer, he has to do something -- especially when it is laid on a plate for him.

Ndiaye tried but I think he may have been drained by his efforts in Africa. Nothing he tried really worked.

Leeds had 2 players on him all the time yet he still tried to take them on had the ball taken off him almost every time. Does he not watch Grealish draw men to him then lay it off to whoever fills the space behind him?

No wonder Dewsbury-Hall (brilliant) went mad at him for crossing instead of shooting when he laid it on a plate for him.

Second half definitely an improvement but still not quite enough. Lacking urgency and precision at Hill Dicko again!

But these so-called coaches still play this system without the appropriate players.

I know you have never rated Calvert-Lewin but at least he played as a centre-forward, whereas the amount of times we pull our centre-forward back, which takes away any outlet, is totally bemusing to me.

A point was about right in the end. I felt sorry for Patterson, and thought he maybe would have complimented Dibling a lot more than O'Brien.

But the biggest disappointment was that we went from being a team that was compact, organised and dangerous on the counter-attack at Villa, to a team that didn't quite know what they were supposed to be doing at times tonight.

Dibling, the speed of a dustbin lid, the brains of a greyhound.
Passes -- but doesn't move. Gets deep in the box -- doesn't shoot.

McNeil -- did nothing

Armstrong -- unlucky to come off -- needs a definite role, not sure centre mid is it.

Gueye -- lucky to stay on, asking someone his age to play that energetic upfield role should not be a regular thing, yet he gave the cross for Barry.

Yet another poor initial 1st half selection from Moyes.

Not the world's biggest surprise that we bottled it -- it's the Everton way.

They looked like they have been injecting the Red Bull off their shirts compared to us sipping Horlicks first half. The energy they showed put us to shame first half.

McNeil can't be persisted with if we have another option, definitely not on the right.Armstrong struggled to compete, which he can be forgiven, for a young lad. Gana looked like he was still hung over first half, got better second but still looked tired.

The boost of quality second half was clear to see with Dewsbury-Hall and Branthwaite. Dibling, although he lost the ball a lot, was trying to have a go. I'd play him leftside, tell him to cross it, I've not seen him cross the ball once this season!!

Jarrad just looks like a Rolls-Royce in car park of Reliant Robins. The players coming back are the thing I'm clinging to as a positive.

I always thought the move to the docks would prove a tricky transition, teams enjoying playing here!

I thought Darren's pre-match post on O'Brien was spot on.

Mykolenko has flaws but never shirks.

Dibling still finding his way but tonight he seemed less ‘weighed down by expectations', apart from his decision to not take that shot on. Garner's shot trying to beat the keeper at the near post when he had to try for the far corner was an equally bad choice.

“Is it down to the manager fretting about them as opposed to letting them worry about us?” - I thought the rubbish first half was down to the opposite. Farke had done his homework and used a system we couldn't deal with with our starting formation. Our midfield was anonymous. Gana was some way off the pace and Garner never seemed to be anywhere near where the ball was.

All put right by half time re-jig.

Great to see Branthwaite and Dewsbury-Hall back, with Alcaraz also on bench. May take a few weeks to get everyone up to proper pace but if we can avoid injuries and suspensions for a while could yet be threatening the European places this season.

Barry's other effort was actually quite good... but he should have hit it harder of course, so it was past the keeper before he could save it.

I'm not sure he's really isolated, or that it matters. If the ball goes toward him, he's got his back to goal, a defender all over him and, if he does get the ball, it goes in a completely random direction.

He should have had a third chance as well, when he got behind their defence in the build-up to Gana's bar-busting strike. But he stalled and seemed to lose any notion of what he should do with the ball.

He seemed more confident and tried to take them on. He'll get there.

I won't start talking about who starts and which formations, just have some fire in the belly! That said, we really need pacey defenders at left- and right-back that also can do crosses, that would do wonders.

At least they gave us a good second half... that saved some hope for the rest of the season.

Barry is a conundrum, good finish and a good attempt before that, but sometimes he looks ungainly and random. Yet he's scoring, he can find the net.

Worryingly, we still haven't figured out how to take the game to teams at home. Moyes's "sit back and counter" tactics are fine on the road, not so good when the onus is on us to win the game. Pickford hoofing it long to Barry is depressing to watch.

I thought Patterson was impressive again. I'm beginning to think it's the left-back position that is more problematic. Mykolenko is a good defender but offers very little offensively. Nothing we don't already know.

Onwards.

Second half much better than first, mainly as we had 2 of our best players on the pitch. Moyes has a decision to make as Branthwaite has to play, absolute quality.

Barry was isolated in the first half which made him look worse than he is, that finish was real quality. We played 10 yards further up the pitch 2nd half and pushed Leeds back.

A draw was a fair result. What price a win at Brighton next week?

Buy a right back

Buy a left back

Buy a striker

You lazy feckless shower of backslapping txxts. The real Evertonians are sick to bastard death of your intransigence.

That first half was an embarrassment. And that should never NEVER happen again.

Get rid of McNeil - he’s crap and can’t be arsed. Terrible.

It was a decent second half, the atmosphere was pretty good, it wasn’t as cold as I thought it was going to be, we deserved the point.

Mykolenko is a defender for when we are 1-0 up and hanging on, he is useless if we need to chase a game.

Patterson was my motm tonight. I thought he had his best game for us and was very unlucky getting the hook. Why not put Aznou on for Mykolenko if we are playing wing backs?

Mykolenko was purposely being ignored by his own team mates as he is that poor on the ball.

Great to have Branthwaite back. I wouldn't be surprised if the 5 at the back started our next game.

2 points lost but at least we showed some desire to get back into the game.

The result and the way we played showed that we are more than just deficient in the right back, left back, and striker areas, although credit to Barry for his strike.

If Barry is going to be one of those "do nothing for 89 minutes but pop up with a goal" type of players, then I'd be ok with that, if he does it more consistently.

I don't know what O'Neill is like away from home, but he is useless on the right at home every time I see him. Play him on the left or don't play him.

I must have been watching another Patterson at right back, I thought he is worse than O'Brien defensively yet still just as poor going forward. We NEED a Prem quality right back.

So good to see KDH and Branthwaite back, we looked a different team with them on the pitch. With KDH, Garner and Ndiaye linking play we suddenly looked capable of breaking them down.

Barry 80% awful, 20% brilliant, nothing in between.

I thought Dibling had it tough with 2 players on him at all times. To me he got better as the game went on, but that should have been a shot not a pass.

In the first half I was wondering who was the home team and who the newly promoted as they played us off the park and while some will say it is "Moyes bashing" I thought he got it wrong by moving Gana into the role that Garner had been playing. Gana didn't really have a bad game it was just that Garner seems so much better bringing the ball out and the only change he needed to make was Ndiaye for Grealish.

Then in the second half Leeds just sat back and paid the for it, a tale of two managers?

Of the half time changes I thought that McNeil was never in the game and the only reason for subbing Armstrong is so he can send him back to Preston.

And again Barry shows an unexpected finish for the equalizer which makes me wonder how much more we might see from him and good to see Branthwaite and Dewsbury-Hall available and now just to see more players getting into the opposition penalty area when we attack.

He was shite and deserved to be hooked at half-time. Not very 'awesome' really. That does not look like his best position.

Patterson should have stayed on the pitch with Dibling ahead of him. Was it Forest where they did well together? Agree completely with Tony (46).

It was 5 defenders Sean Kearns not 3: 'Let's have it right'.

Gana was shocking but then creates a goal and nearly scores what might have been a winner. None of this ought to deflect how truly bad he was. He did not deserve to survive half-time.

McNeil. Speechless.

Gana looked like a headless chicken and Stmstrong just strolled through the game.

With Brandthwaite and KDH brought on and no doubt some strong words we saw a lot more of the ball and made our way up the pitch.

Thought O’Brien Ann’s Jarrad dominated and they carry more of a threat from corners seeing as we struggle to score from open play.

Dibling was ineffective but to be fair peter right MF was totally lacking as KDH/ Armstrong were towards t he e left as was Jimmy Garner leaving Gana Gueye who did not support well. Why wasn’t Rohl given a chance.No partnerships developing either. It’s just percentage football with long hoofs from Pickford which I detest.

On the plus side, if there is one, having Jarrad and Kiernan back has to augur well for the run-in to the end of the season. McNeil should not play again unless it is a dire emergency !

Mind you, isn't Keane back for the next game. Let's see what happens but Patterson should start with a winger ahead of him. So, that's a back three with O'Brien at right-back and McNeil ahead of him.

We must have the worst full-backs in the league. Leeds get Justin on the cheap who scored with his weaker foot.

Shocking recruitment.

A shocking window if no one comes in.

All the January sponds have gone to Rome so far, the ground where Friedkin has actually bothered to turn up. Friedkin, naturally, supports playing Serie A games overseas. Of course, he does.

Personally I saw nothing about Patterson that impressed me except his ability to watch the back of Aaronson. The Yank is hardly a top player but had the complete freedom of Patto's side for the entire first half, running past him at will. And I can't recall a single dribble, pass or decent cross from Patto, no contributions at all in attack, can you? Anything jump out at you?

As for Barry, totally agree with you, he has a great deal to learn and he'll never look elegant but he clearly knows how to move in the box and how to finish a play. The shot with the outside of his foot looked off-balance but it was headed for the side netting and required a top save, and he got nicely across the defender for his goal. And I really like his low-key celebrations -- no sliding, no ripping off his shirt, just an almost-bored "hey, what did you expect" expression. I said it last month and I'll say it again... in a year we'll be happy to have him.

Home form:

P 12. W 4. D 4. L 4.

Dropped 20 points out of possible 36.

The problem as far as I can see, is that we aren't very good when we've got the ball. Any team away from home that can keep their shape, just need to quieten the crowd down and play for the counter or set pieces.

I picked the same team as Moyes in the preview, but the issues were we dwelled on the ball and had 3 or 4 leeds players attracted around it. Space was there, but the overlap or picking someone to avoid the press wasn't.

It is easy to pick in the usual ones and say the passing & crossing was poor, it was. Mcneil was rarely there on the right when Patterson had the ball, Gana gave it away a fair bit, but no one else shone either.

Huffed and puffed in the second half for the goal and a well worked cross bar strike. But in truth that was it.

A point, players back, but definitely 2 points dropped.

One week everyone moans that Moyes is one dimensional and never changes anything. Then when the manager changes the game at half time from one we couldn't get a kick in to one we couldn't lose, by changing the shape and personnel, this is ignored.

I was sat in the pub surrounded by Leeds fans moaning that their manager hadn't got the nous to respond to Moyes' changes.

We were overrun in the first half but had over 70% possession in the second. Gana was 3 inches from winning it, after having set up a fine equaliser with Leeds playing with their backs to the wall.

We are not Real Madrid. We will not win every week. But for F sake give some credit where it is due.

That, Ian, is a key point, made worse that Nathan was subbed for Dibling.

There are still erm dead smart fellas who believe that Patterson or FFS 'Patto' should not be starting in the current circumstances. Unless we buy a right-back in the next 6 days - TFG, yeah fucking right - Nathan should start every game.

'Everton Bashing site' is pathetic. There are a belligerent small minority, I agree, but most of us write what we see and we care for and love our club and want success every bit as much as an erm 'optimist' like you.

Dibling was very, very poor and that effort on goal was a shot that turned into a bad cross.

We definitely need a couple of loan signings in the next few days or the season will see plenty more displays like this.

Your last sentence is critical. It's down to you Yanks and your ace recruitment team. Absolutely zilch confidence. Ndiaye will most likely be gone this summer after a sleepwalk to the end of the season. These Yanks have a fucking lot to prove.

Moyes will most likely start O'Brien at right-back at Brighton.

Branthwaite looked assured when he came on, but him and Dewsbury-Hall have both been out for a long period of time, so the formation suited the personnel and shaped the thinking.

The Dibling effort was absolutely shocking, and if we are all honest, he needs regular games in the Championship to develop. The Premier League is too much for him to grow. It's just killing his confidence. It's all well and good looking like a world beater in a shit side on Match of the Day or highlight reels, but a 90 minute match is a different story.

Could Aznou come on for the last 15 minutes over Mykolenko? That was my thinking. We had little quality on the left in the 2nd half.

For those of us fortunate enough to be attending Brighton with the travelling Blue Army, focus now on Saturday, when hopefully he nets another in what I expect will be another tricky test for Everton.

McNiel was next to useless, never available for a pass or doing his defensive duties as shown by Justin leaving him for dead for their goal.

No one will ever convince me that O'Brien is a better right-back than Patterson. I agree with you about Barry, he's gone from being, what was it? "Bollard one" to the only one who is scoring goals, he's even getting some begrudged credit.

I'm not convinced by Dibling; he might turn out to be a decent player but I'm sure that £40M could have been put to better use. He looks like he can't be arsed, he should be wanting the ball all the time but he looks gutted when he gets it, I'm yet to be convinced.

Good to see Beto scoring. He won't be prolific, ɓut it's becoming a fairly regular habit.

Well said Mick @80. I have confidence in TFG. They are shrewd investors & for the first time in decades, we are being run like a business rather than boy's pen Bill's new Christmas train set.

Interesting take on Patterson, Dave. A player I always wanted to do well, but maybe this isn't his level? I can see him back in Scotland in the summer.

A tad more sunnier about Dibling, Mick - just a tad. I saw things I liked and how on earth is he to feel better when the waste of space McNeil is picked ahead of him.

Similarly, this game was crying out for another Aznou cameo.

At least we didn't lose.

No post/er matches what you said there.

Well said Mick @80. I have confidence in TFG. They are shrewd investors & for the first time in decades, we are being run like a business rather than boy's pen Bill's new Christmas train set.

@80 is me.

And based on this and the last window your confidence is compromised. Erm, 'shrewd investors', sure, but that means fuck all for how they run our club other than their Texas profiteering.

McNeil didn't look interested, Gueye looked knackered first half but more energised in the second. Rohl must have been peeved not to get on.

Barry is an awful footballer on every measure except, in the last few games, getting himself in the right place to score. Is that 4 in 5 now?

I also agree that it must be soul-destroying to see the lamentable McNiel get picked ahead of you constantly. He was truly woeful last night -- and not for the first time.

Dibling just looks a little lost, not sure of what the manager wants from him. Does he take players on and risk losing it and get Moyes screaming at him? Or just pass backwards to retain possession?

I want to see him have a run with the ball, whip a few crosses in. As I said, I really want the lad to do well.

Erm Geoff, 93, that is what a striker does.

But, the Leeds left wing back's runs forward saw Patterson doubled up on time after time. We were ripped apart in the first half and the manager just stood watching it happen. He doesn't, and never has, reacted to what is happening on the pitch fast enough.

Leeds took a few minutes to settle, but had been well coached to take the game to us, use spaces well, and move for each other with energy and purpose.

There are slightly bigger spaces at our new ground, slower players (due to age or ability) are disadvantaged. The answer? Easy in theory, younger high-energy players with a skill set appropriate to their position and role... So in practise this is a challenge, but we need to buy better and coach better to get a highly functional team.

Changes made a big difference at half-time, we suddenly presented a different challenge for Leeds, and they lost their momentum.

A back 3 works best with decent overlapping wing-backs, we don't have a single one, although Aznou may have potential.
Dibling showed more potential at Southampton, our coach is not getting the best of him.

McNeil is a very limited squad player. Grealish is missed. Very good to see Branthwaite get minutes, ditto Dewsbury-Hall. Ndiaye is always a star player. Barry is underwhelming for long periods, but is finding some good touches.

The squad rebuild may not come on much, if at all this window. We have half a good team that are carrying the rest, and we have a half-good coach... we really can get better. Coyb

Perhaps I want more from a striker, not falling over his own feet, looking lost for large parts of the game.

Having said that, if he keeps scoring, then I'll gladly applaud the ‘awful footballer' and welcome his name on the team sheet every week.

I don't pretend to know why our results have improved so radically since O'Brien came in to play right-back last season. Maybe the sight of somebody built like a brick shit house narrows the path down our right and makes wingers think twice about trying to get down there.

I would like to see him at centre-back, if only to make it possible to ease the classy Branthwaite back in gradually, but I would invite anyone who thinks his days at right-back are over to come and see me.

I have an Ayrton Senna that says Moyes will play him there at the very next opportunity.

A better team would have put that game to bed before half-time. We've been played off the park several times at home by teams who are either our equal or considered inferior with regard to league standings.

That has to be down to coaching, not just on a tactical level but on an attitude and mental level. Leeds were much quicker and more dynamic than us, even in the 2nd half whilst defending they looked composed; we on the other hand, were all piss and wind and luckily found a way through.

We need a forward-thinking manager who understands the modern game, not a stoic, stuck in his ways pair of safe hands who will deliver the odd decent result. We deserve better than that after years of basically nothingness.

He turned it around in the second half with changes that almost won the game but that first half was a horror show.

Moyes's tactics guarantee a mid to lower table standing. Win one, lose one, draw two and repeat -- that's always the pattern.

O'Brien Tarkowski Keane Mykolenko

Revert back to the back four playing deeper than they did last night.

I think Barry and Dibling would benefit from an SAS training course.

If you watch the Leeds goal scorer, he runs past McNeil who lets him go and continues to jog back while Justin runs unmarked in the penalty area to slot home at the far post.

Unfit... lazy... both? It's hard to say... but Moyes rightly hauled him off after half-time. Zero goals and 1 assist all season, unfit or disinterested -- he cannot start another game.

As usual, all the pre-match debate was about the right back position and I nearly fell off my seat when reading that Nathan Patterson was the main target of criticism for some posters.

The bigger issue was Mykolenko at left-back! He was all at sea down his flank throughout the game. His defensive positioning was poor, situational awareness non-existent, distribution awful, and he offered no offensive threat -- he is not good enough and needs to be replaced.

On the manager, Moyes got the selection and tactics wrong in the first half. He matched Leeds in the second half when he should have started the game with 3-5-2. The midfield of Garner, Rohl and Armstrong had huge energy in the Villa game and we lost that with the selection of Gueye. No slight on Harrison, but he is too young to influence a game when his senior midfield team mate is playing so poorly.

Overall, I think David Moyes has challenges with the balance of the team when we are expected to play higher up the pitch, control possession and get on the front foot. The players, the manager? I don't know... but 16 points from a possible 36 at home is not acceptable.

I would let him go back to Preston where he will start in most games. He needs to be playing every week for his development.

Still, there are footy-challenged little voices on here who will grab every chance to pop at our one true playable right-back. The corrector-in-chief Gaynes as he climbs into his DAN DAN DAN cheerleaders dress and his frilly knickers with D❤️ above his sweaty gusset is lard.

Moyes, instead of subbing, try Dibling and Patterson together -- it worked before.

But nowhere near as shite as McNeil: 12 touches, 8 passes, 7 sideways, no dribbles, no effective crosses.

We stopped the all-out attacking that got us the goal.

Both of our full-backs are limited. However, if Patterson keeps playing, there is potential for improvement as there's a footballer in there somewhere, though I acknowledge he is massively injury prone and that has hindered his development.

On the other flank, Mykolenko has been almost an ever-present for 4 years... he's not going to get any better. He is what he is.

It's a toss-up as to which full-back position needs upgrading first.

I don't think Paul was saying "he's" shite... more like he had a shite game.

As for Patterson... I thought he was one of our best players last night, full of running and put in some important tackles.

Yes possibly, mate, reading the post again. Harrison Armstrong had an ineffective game last night.

Paul, what are your overall thoughts on Harrison Armstrong?

Looked like he was asked to play off Barry, fine, but someone tell our goalie that firing bombs 20yards over both of their heads doesn't give either of them much of a chance to shine.

Whenever McNeil plays, I worry that he switches off defensively. For some unknown reason, we have started a few games at Hill Dickinson Stadium slowly and, for most of the first half, we were on the back foot.

I don't agree that Gueye replacing Rohl had a detrimental effect on our game. Nobody played well first half, including Gueye. But he was the one sprinting down the touchline to put an inch-perfect pass for Barry to score as well as hitting the bar.

The inclusion of Dewsbury-Hall and Branthwaite made a big difference and the midfield of Gueye, Garner and Dewsbury-Hall dominated the 2nd half. For those critics of Grealish asking what does he do, well, I think last night's game answered that question.

I really don't know what to make of Barry last night. He scored his 4th goal in 5 games, which any striker would be pleased with, but his general game is awful. He has no confidence in holding the ball up, he is easilly bullied by defenders.

But our biggest problem is Tyler Dibling. We paid between £35M and £40M and he has been here 6 months and has shown us nothing. Not even a glimpse of talent... but we are stuck with a player who can't be trusted to deliver and heaven knows how much he is getting per week to sit on the bench.

There is one thing in signing potential but when it's obvious that it isn't going to bear fruit, we may have to cut our losses and use him in a swap deal.

Finally, I thought the crowd in the last 20 minutes were the best we have been since moving to Hill Dickinson Stadium. Please can we ditch the siren. It was never part of our history and the quicker they stop using it, the better.

Second half was better, great to see a few returning players, but we lack the much-needed sparks of quality. Crosses don't beat the first man.

We offered no forward outlet on the left really, kept going back. Missed Grealish. We desperately need some pace and guile.

With you 100% on the siren and Forever Everton
can go with it.

Evidently we were over run and had difficulty with the Leeds formation. Credit to the manager that he changed things and brought back previously injured players, perhaps sooner than he would have; it worked and we could have won the game.

There are still naysayers against Barry but, in his defense. I will say this: His last two goals have been class finishes -- not flukes! Additionally, a glancing chance brought off an outstanding save by their keeper; had that gone in as well, we would have been licking his lips.

I see a possible assassin in the box, his finishing looks cool and calm. We have a great striker in the making here.

Please can we ditch 'Grand Ol' Team'? Just embarrassing.

How many times have we put ourselves in a great position to kick on after a good result, only to shoot ourselves in the foot???

It seems that we need to play a defensive away type game if we want points on the board.

I think young Armstrong needs sending back to Preston until the end of the season. As for young Dibling, God only knows what's up with the lad? Hopefully after longer here and a good next pre-season, he'll come out of his shell. Right now... 'disappointing' is not the word.

I think that's a bit hard on Dibling giving him 6 months...

No, put him on probation for now!

It's strange how we always had a decent home record but couldn't buy an away win; now, I favour us more away. Perhaps it's the style of play, perhaps the change of ground. It is probably a combination of the two.

Looking on the bright side, we have come through a period with lots of players missing or injured and managed to hold position in the Premier League. The players are now returning, so hopefully we can kick on. Leeds have been on a decent run so, after the first half horror show, I was content with a point.

Hopefully the likes of McNeil will be sold or revert to the shadows, he seems to have an incredible talent for arriving half a second after the ball has gone, it's uncanny.

Barry is scoring, I don't care if he does nothing else all game but at least hits the net. And having Dewsbury-Hall and Branthwaite back will be a massive bonus.

Hopefully a few signings this week to bolster quality, not just numbers, and we can get upto the 50-point mark or over.

Staring blankly into space, and seemingly without a friend in the world from any of his teammates. I'm no psychologist, but this lad seems to me to need some therapy.

Everyone goes on about the need for a right-back, and I agree, but we are desperate for a left-back just as much.

Oh brilliant. That means we won't have to suffer dozens of posts expressing amazed, astounded, flabbergasted astonishment when the inevitable happens... Thank fuck for that.

We won't be deeper than last night though. I'm not sure that is possible without going behind our own goal.

The whole section around me were screaming at Tarkowski twice last night. First when Patterson had nothing on and then turned back; and then when McNeil found himself in a similar position. On both occasions, Tarks was ambling out of his own area a country mile behind play.

Mick O'Malley @71,

"Tarkowski can stink the gaff out, but cos he goes around playing the hard man, he hardly ever gets called out."

You are spot on, of course. I've been saying it all season, if it's any consolation. The matchgoers were giving him both barrels last night. That said, a seasoned professional like him should not need to be told where to be by the crowd.

The good news is: he will be gone soon. Jarrad Branthwaite showed what a difference a classy centre-back playing properly weighted passes into midfield can make to the entire team.

I know we had to push up because we were chasing the game, but his simple distribution enabled the entire team to naturally move forward as a unit. Such a refreshing change from seeing Tarkowski or Pickford hoofing it down the park and waiting for it to come back.

The temptation to risk Jarrad's recovery by rushing him back too soon must be resisted Easy does it.

Unsatisfactory result. Appalling first half. Several below par individual performances... But, without troubling the edge of my seat, I still saw glimmers of hope.

So we seem to be moving towards a more Italian model, where we endeavour to hold onto the ball and wait for a weakness, but the crowd has no patience with this way of playing: they want front-foot.

There are no easy answers, especially when we lose for the season the one player most capable of unlocking a hunkered down defence.

As has been said before, all four home teams on Sunday lost. This is a league-wide phenomenon. It was amazing to see the difference once Branthwaite and Dewsbury-Hall came on... this is what we've been missing for months.

There is so much to be optimistic about with Everton: we have a striker who is starting to look elite level, and about six quality players are due to be added to the squad in the next couple of weeks. And we have the capacity for significant further improvement when we buy competent full-backs in the summer.

We've been spared another horrendous relegation fight (and it promises to be the worst yet this season), but the discontent among the supporters mystifies me. Moyes has barely been in the job a year, and we've made so many steps forward, but the criticism of him continues to be relentless.

One of the main ones being he doesn't use his subs well. Has there been any acknowledgement about last night['s switcheroo? Nope, they immediately jump to 'Well, why did we start so bad'?

You cant' win. It's very strange.

Pace, aerial ability, reading and passing, he is the complete package.

Give it a rest, for fuck's sake.

I pointed out to you last time you were bleating about "relentless criticis" of Moyes, that you were defending him from criticism that hadn't even been levelled at him. You were the only one who mentioned him. You're at it again.

Considering the desperately poor performance by the team Moyes originally selected and the degree to which he had been tactically out-thought, he has gotten away very lightly... in fact ,he has gotten away with absolutely fucken murder on this thread. 130 posts and he barely gets a mention...

These are match day threads and people come on to voice their honest opinion. The only thing I would describe as relentless is your sycophancy.

Our weakness is we are poor at scoring; if you don't score, you don't win... that's why we are never a good thing to beat any team.

The betting for the game had us only slight favourites; the bookies had a good idea what the result would be because we seldom score more than 1 goal. Very few ever bet for a draw, the game starts a draw. Two low-scoring teams produce plenty draws 0-0, 1-1.

We are better at stopping teams than scoring against them, Moyes gets plenty stick but I think he relised early that was the way to go. At this stage of the season we are higher up the table than I for one thought, so I cant be too critical.

Next season we will have a better Idea of how much ambition our new owners have for us. We need 3 or 4 more top class players to challenge for the Champion League places, if we don't get them and lose some we have, it will be more of the same.

I'd love to know what your expectations were for the new manager who took over a team with 2 goals in 10 games. 'Were you hoping for a late bid for the title this year, as we bore down inexorably on all comers?

You're the one congratulating themselves that our captain 'will be gone soon' and that every Evertonian has the right to howl at the moon over every bump in the road. I just don't see it that way.

If we get a good manager after a decade of utter tripe, and he presides over an instant and statistically significant improvement, that should allow him a degree of wiggle room where he is cut some slack, allowed the odd mishap, without a crescendo of boos.

Also, Armstrong was a bit of a scapegoat after being asked or told to change his game to play nearer Barry. I do wonder, if Dewsbury-Hall and Branthwaite were fit, why they didn't start? Did Mr Moyes comment on this at the presser?

I couldn't be bothered going because I was tired and it was freezing but I've been freezing cold hundreds of times at the football before so, if I'm being honest, I just can't get excited about my team at the minute.

We all see a different game. Kevin sees us playing in the old Italian style, with the fans having to be more patient. Although I saw that type of performance at Villa, I saw a totally different set-up last night with gaps all over the park.

Maybe you don't think it really matters if the centre-forward is isolated, Michael, but when you have got a big central defender all over you, then I think it's imperative that you need options. But I take your point about the next phase of Barry's game, because his touch was awful, and he never really tries to get a hold of the ball, which was the complete opposite of how the Leeds centre-forward tried to play last night.

I thought we missed Grealish, and the return of Branthwaite makes me realise that, even or unless you have got a fantastic manager, football really is all about the players.

You simply can't have enough good players; one of the reasons why we have been struggling in our home games is that we don't have enough movement or creativity.

Both McNeil and Dibling look completely lost on the right.

With the exceptions of Ibroegbunam and Grealish, Moyes had a full-strength squad at his disposal last night.

I'm looking forward to a strong finish to this season now that Branthwaite, Dewsbury-Hall and Ndiaye are back in the team.

It sounds like our performance was just about right for the unsettled and uneven squad we have. Trying to bed back in 4 of our top players, losing our best player, having no choice but to play 2 very average or below-average full-backs plus one of Dibling or McNeil on the wing, plus a striker who looks like he might fall over when the ball is at his feet.

We have a long way to go. Send Armstrong back to the Championship, give Dibling a few chances to start the match, don't make any panic buys this window, slowly reintegrate Dewsbury-Hall and Branthwaite, and we'll be just fine. Unless we completely shit the bed the next 15 matches, persist with Moyes next season.

We're a work in progress, and we're about 12th-14th best in the Premier League right now, but it's a far better place to be in than the past 10 years, so I'll take it.

If we keep hold of all of our top players and sign a couple full-backs plus either Grealish or a top winger, we'll be in good shape next season.

You started it by making a point that my 6-year-old grandson could tell you re Jake starting right-back next game.

You must have watched a different game to me last night.
You and the "whole section around you", you are relying on to enhance your non-existent point.

It is by no means a chore and I always look forward to matchday. Depending where I am in the country, home matches can be an equally long trip. I thank Moshiri for his one & only legacy and thank TFG for pushing the new stadium project over the line.

Theses days, I get more ecited attending the away fixtures.

Still too early to predict, but European qualification is very much on the cards. Possibly even the final Champion's League berth.

Is our current manager the person to get us there this season? Time will tell, but as it looks right now, he'd have to try hard not to.

Is he the manager to take us into competing in Europe next season? Opinions will differ, but not for me. I'd rather see change.

Get rid.

You go to all the away games, we've got the best record in the whole league with ten wins since he got here, and you'd rather we twist next season and get AN Other in, after the last seven disasters.

I just don't get it.

I'm not in the least bit interested in how you saw the game or how much you love Moyes.

The fact is (and it is an irrefutable fact) That football fans around the world will give an opinion on how they saw their teams game. It is their right...You do understand that...Managers who fail to win what fans believe to be very winnable games will be criticised. Whether you like it or not. That goes for Moyes too. Compared to some of the abuse I have heard directed at some of the managers this weekend. Moyes is indeed. Getting away with murder. He failed to win and his team served up abject football. That said I STILL don't see any abuse. I've read every post and I see no evidence of "relentless criticism" you are raging against Its in your head.

Not many people will be quick to congratulate Moyes for the tactical turnaround. That would be like patting the arsonist on the back for for putting out the fire he started in the first place. Moyes was merely correcting his mistakes.

Apologetic posts, like the ones you frequently put up berating fans for giving honest opinion will only ever attract more criticism for your hero.

The "crescendo of boos" at half time, which so upset you, did not come a stadium full of unreasonable people with an over developed sense of entitlement. They came from the most loyal, long suffering fans in the league. They clearly thought it was about time they told this manager that they are no longer prepared to accept this utter shite after forking out hundreds of pounds to see what is supposed to be entertainment

Of course they could have just happy clapped like you and let Moyes believe his fuck-witted tactics were in some way acceptable

You should be thanking them for forcing the managers hand rather than bleating about them for demanding something approaching the watchable

Because quite honestly, all this “happy clapping” stuff is tediously predictable fucking bollocks.

I didnt start anything. You addressed me. I didnt say that O'Brien would be right back at Brighton. You did that. I don't even know who will be fit. neither do you...and neither does you six year old Grandson.

I did say that there will be many people expressing their amazement when he is played at right back again. That's because there will be.

It was not just the whole section of the stand I was in. 52000 people and fuck knows how many telly viewers saw our defenders fall back to their own area as Leeds were given the freedom of the park to attack at will for pretty much the whole of the first half.

Ask your six year old Grandson He'll tell you

I'd offer it to you, but my conscience wont allow me to take money from somebody who doesnt even understand the bet

It is a painful watch across many a team.

Did our defence play higher, than we have seen for the majority of this season, in the second half?

The ease to get down the left was embarrassing, but James Justin running past Mcneil wont have been unnoticed by the management team.

Mcneil, Dibling, Beto, Mykolenko will be trying the patience of the management team.

Its the midfield and forward players where we lack that bit of class.

As Tony says @ 136 you cant have too many top players, they can get you out of trouble with one or two outstanding plays.

Considering the injuries we have had I think we are in front of expectations at this time.

Yes we can moan about some players, but the results are ok.

I like HA a lot John, just thought that he was 'shite' yesterday, perhaps poor is more appropriate. I'm not sure that this is his best position/role. He looks good running from deeper down. But let's see.

Man management, if we can afford it? I would have kept him on for another 10 minutes to see how things developed after the Half-Time revamp. I don't worry about his confidence, unlike Tyler, sadly, but Gana should have gone off at HT along with the truly dreadful McNeil.

I wouldn't send HA back to Preston, though with KDH apparently fit he might not get too many starts. I also worry that if there is no incoming this window that we will really struggle for the rest of the season with added pressure on Harrison and others.

But I think he's a potential star John who is allowed a stinker from time to time. I hope that he might prove to be a rare thing: an academy product who actually stays with us.

If Harrison goes back to Preston I will not be disappointed. I do get a tad sick and tired of hearing how regular footy at a lower level will improve him beyond, I suppose, what might happen if he were to stay. I think that's a load of xxxxxxx in. Harrison's case, as he is already PL ready and, guess what, look around at other clubs, where teenagers feature regularly and sometimes always.

Preston have lost their last three league games. No wonder they want our Harrison back.

Amen brother Brian. I hate it. It's so Wrexham. I assume that it had something to do with retired half-decent boxer Tony Bellew, but not sure. If so, it ought to be retired with him.

Also, it makes me think of Dad's Army, not erm SAS.

I thought the half time changes were so we matched their back three plus wingbacks, and that it worked very well at reversing the momentum. Jake O’Brien struggled a bit in the first half (as did pretty much everyone else) but he was contending with the very lively and physical Calvert- Lewin as well as anyone else who stormed through on the right. He is right footed and having to play on the left hand side, to boot.

In my opinion, he was fine second-half apart from two blatant giveaways, the first after he tried to deal with a poor lofted pass from Tarkowski, and the second after initially doing very well to break out but then getting too excited and telegraphing his pass once he was too far advanced to retrieve the situation. That meant Moyes had limited options for increasing the threat on the right hand side. Patterson was okay but he’s not a winger and whilst he had helped to completely nullify the threat from Leeds on that side we weren’t really threatening them either. Ultimately I think Patterson went because we were still operating with three at the back, that is, I don’t think Jake O’Brien replaced Patterson at right back last night, If we do revert to a back 4 in future the big choice is going to be who is paired with Jarrad.

It looked like Dibling had instructions to prioritise trying to take on the defender(s) at every opportunity. It wasn’t very successful. I’ve looked at his opportunity a few times and it looks like he opted to cross to me. It was a terrible cross though and he should have taken on the shot.

Kevin, there are not 'about xix quality players are due to be added to the squad in the next couple of weeks'; we did not draw with 'half a team out'; many people have praised the HT subs (care to comment on the Patterson/Dibling fiasco?).

You crow about our away record, what about our very poor home record? And fans who spend hard-earned money to watch that first-half shite are entitled to express themselves, whether that be the folks around Darren, the increasing murmuring and groans from all parts of the ground, and half-time booing.

These people are not idiots Kevin. They pay a lot of money and see with their eyes and imagine football as they would like to see it played. They saw the one 'relentless' thing, fecking little sideways and backwards passing punctuated by the odd ball forwards. They saw Gana, Mykelenko, Armstrong, McNeil, Garner, and Tarkowski who were all crap in the first half and told the manager, the forever absent are Roma at home this weekend Friedkin, and a seemingly inept management/recruitment team who are fucking around with our club this window.

Danny, nice Danny, we have not got any hope at all of CL footy next season. Nor the one after, unless this apparently crack management/recruitment team get their act together. Presumably, they are preparing for life without Ndiaye.

I fully agree with your post there.

In a fully fit squad Harrison wont get many starts,just the odd ten minutes.

Imo we have got a potentially very good player,his development will come faster by playing every week.

I misread your post,half asleep.

My worry, is the managers reluctance to give him enough playing time to aid his development.

Imo he will be starting games for us regularly next season,the more games he plays this season the better for me.

I agree,it would have been interesting to see how he played with the extra man in midfield after the managers delayed change of shape.

He was closed down by two players when he received the ball in wide areas,with no pass option on a few occassions.Forcing him to try and beat one,sometimes two by taking them on.We both know that is not his game,

He will be top player Paul.

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Your post got me thinking about going to a concert in a small venue, and took me back to 1984/85 season, when after watching Everton go top after beat Leicester 3-0, (we might have already been top - but we just knew this team was different) I went the Royal Court, to see Marillion.

A great concert, another one in the memory bank, especially whenever I hear those open lyrics to Kayleigh!

Didn’t you notice O’Brien trying to shield the ball out of play in the first half only for his opponent take it off him and put a good ball across the goal or when they scored half turning his back on the player putting the ball across the goal to go with those two poor defensive mistakes near the end of the game, neither of us or anyone else mentioned Pickford’s cock up running out of his goal,and mishandling the ball, Tarkowski made a couple too which was why I thought Patterson was our best defender in that first half, I don’t understand the praise O’Brien gets, to me he’s very average at best and as for Dibling I’m still waiting for the lad to show some football gumption which lets me know he understands football never mind loving going out and getting stuck and enjoying the game which is so easy to play especially when you’ve got the talent to hug and stroke the ball and use it well.

Thanks for your reply Si I understand your opinions and agree with loads of them but we really all see the game different — no rights or wrongs just different opinions with the same love of the team we support.

Liverpool definitely has better nightlife now but not as many good bands.

Jeez, I saw Talking Heads there, Clash six times, STILL GOT ALL THESE TICKETS MATE, 46-50 YEARS ON - Buzzcocks, Joy Division, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Undertones, Echo and the Bunnymen their first ever gig, Deaf School, Crucial Three, Teardrop, The Fall, Big in Japan, Elvis Costello, The Associates, The Cure, A Certain Ratio, Ultravox, Wire, Madness, Stiff Little Fingers, Dexys MR, Simple Minds, B52s, Pretenders, Specials, John Cooper Clarke, Skids, Human League, Orchestral Manoeuvres, John Otway, Iggy Pop, The Damned, Skids, Cabaret Voltaire, Scritti Politti, Pere Ubu, David Johansen, X-ray Spex, Penetration, Magazine, Jonathan Richman, Steel Pulse, XTC, John Otway and Wild Willy Barrett, Wilko Johnson, Aswad, Devo, DIRE STRAITS BELIEVE IT OR NOT, Alberto y Lost Trios Paranoias,The Police, Ian Dury and the Blockheads, Boomtown Rats, Nick Lowe, Ramones, the Stranglers, Squeeze, The Jam, John Cale, Sex Pistols, etc. etc.

Those were the days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiwVcQhlODU

I was a member of Eric's and Bradys back in the day, wish I'd of kept my ticket stubs.

Think last gig I attended was Dead Kennedys at Bradys but saw 90% of those bands you mentioned.

Mateta £35m.. no thanks.

Tammy Abraham £18m..? Going to Villa.

Oscar Bobb to Fulham.. loan.. do a job for us? Harry Wilson to be sold?

Douglas Luiz loan availability… going to Villa?

There is movement.

Will there be a meeting of our transfer committee before next week, have we any appetite for business?

Might we look at a right back, a short term Grealish replacement, another forward?

No panic buys, no huge financial outlay. A bit of fresh impetus might just give us that push.

I always loved the intimacy of a smaller venue but I have probably attended a lot more concerts, in the bigger arena’s, so just thinking about some of the songs you have heard sung, while being so close to the stage, must have definitely filled you with a lot of great memories.

The B 52’s singing love shack, and one of my all time favourite female artists Chrissie Hynde, singing Brass in Pocket. I could go on and list at least one hundred great songs, but I’ll finish with Brothers In Arms, instead!

I sometimes think that more than a few of us on here of a certain age must have rubbed shoulders back in the day in town or at the match or Eric's etc.

I remember back in the day Chrissie Hynde was on some sort of record review show Friday evening on Beeb-1 and she said that Al Green's voice made her orgasm, and the plug got pulled.

Chrissie Hynde used to work and hang around Vivienne Westwod's shop sex. This is from 1976. Can you spot her mate?!

https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheFilthAndTheFury/posts/7885805481548804/

Did you get to see New Model Army the times they played the Royal Court? I remember after one gig we ended up at a club I'm positive was called the Pink Parrot?

Crowded House, The Christians, etc.

Pistols would have been 76 or 77? This probably isn't the place for it but I would love to hear more about those shows. I've seen a few of those bands myself but mostly in later years due to my age.

Apart from the early days Pistols, I'm most jealous about XTC. They only played live for a relatively short time and IMO are one of the most underrated bands in history. It's a crying shame that Andy couldn't stand touring.

I never did see NMA Joe, they were, if I remember,1981 on-ish. I was rapidly turning into a sort of funk thing at that point (though 1976-80 is sacred stuff) and Sly and Robbie were dictating my walkman! Tragedy that Sly just left us. Was playing Grace Jones and Black Uhuru in tribute. What music! What bass lines!

Pistols was 1976. There were about 100 people there, if memory serves. It was October. Eric's had only just opened:

https://recordmecca.com/item-archives/sex-pistols-ultra-rare-1976-erics-liverpool-concert-handbill/

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?

I always hated that some folks called XTC the new wave 10CC. Such smart songs. Lovely little twists. Under-rated voices. They were from Swindon, I think, crikey.

Despite his self-deprecatiion it's patently obvious that Andy is a songwriting genius. The Dukes of Stratosphear might be the best 60s music ever made, and it was made in the 1980s.

Syd, John & Paul, and Brian Wilson (Pale & Precious is the best Beach Boys song ever by about a skadillion miles, and it was made by XTC) would all bow their heads in tribute.

Outside of the first 2 albums and to some extent Sandinista! I don't rate the Clash as highly as most, but to see them in those early years must have been something else.

And the Pistols? That's like seeing Jimi at Monterey 67 or Winterland 68 or Dylan at Newport 65. Unfuckingbelievable. I will check out the link, thank you.

https://sun-13.com/2020/07/18/erics-a-personal-journey-through-liverpools-original-punk-club/

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=327434232086567&set=a.295880268575297

Before that they also beat City 3-1 at home.

Saw them last at the Deeside Leisure Centre after London Calling came out, and was feeling then that the magic was not quite the same. Deeside and Wrexham lads did not exactly welcome the huge number of scousers who went to the show!

They are Barcelona and Bodø/Glimt.

Probably at risk of getting these posts wiped, but if you can find the time to type up whatever memories you have of the Pistols gig at Eric's, please do.

I've seen Bob Dylan 96 times in about 30 different states and provinces (and I stopped going in 2009) and thousands of other gigs, including many off your Eric's list, but seeing the 76 Pistols is historically very important. That band at that time is as big as music history gets.

Like seeing Buddy Holly on the Winter Dance Party Tour.

Still making my way up to Darren and before. Carry on TW!

I'm still making music at 56, have a go at

https://open.spotify.com/artist/181RFGSRkvwDZ2rSRGN4eZ?si=9gfxj77KQMmdINbi0xmj7Q

I got up and was one of the singers.

I'll try to remember and see if I can trace the set list, Neil.

I had a ticket for The Stadium gig but that got cancelled by the police for fear of trouble, the idiots, I did see them in Manchester but not at the infamous only 20 people in the crowd gig.

The Stadium put some great bands on and I saw The Sensational Alex Harvey Band there, they were magnificent.

Being a student in Newcastle I saw a lot of those bands on your list up there Paul, my last one being The Clash in 1982 the night before I failed my final Law exam!

I'm sure I saw Eurythmics in Eric's, I know I saw X-Ray Specs and can be seen in the crowd in the documentary. A great night was had by all when I saw (don't laugh) Slade there in 1979. I'd seen them a couple of weeks before at a 3,000 capacity Newcastle City hall and there was no atmosphere but in Eric's the whole crowd was bouncing the whole gig.

I went to lots of gigs at The Empire but the Stadium was much better atmosphere, Thin Lizzy, Dr. Feelgood, Curved Air.

Rocking atmospheres, my ears were ringing for 2 weeks after being in the front row at the Curved Air gig with a bank of 10,000 Watt amps.

Holly Johnson was definitely there as were half of Deaf School. X-Ray Spex were terrific Eric. That saxophone was pretty unique.

I might even say that the best live band in those days was the Buzzcocks. Remember seeing them at the Uni - Mountford Hall? - supported by Joy Division.

We lost at the shite 3-1 on the next day.
The Pistols were promoted at Probe and some other Indy outlets. I heard by word of mouth. Anarchy was released on November 26, so these were the times. There was a BBC set at the end of October that just added to the notoriety.

That really hot summer of '76 was coming to an end, at long last! We often drank at Maxwell's Plum on Hanover Street before Erics, where the drinks were cheap. Walk in, down the stairs, and there it was!

There could not have been more than a hundred people there and they included some of Liverpool's recent alternative celebrities: Pete Burns from Probe, Holly Johnson. The support band was called Albert Dock, apparently, I just found that out, and I cannot remember anything about them.

Most of the 100 or so were still longish hair, feather cuts, flares. This did not go unnoticed by Mr. Rotten. Sidney was not in the band; Glen Matlock was. They were good at sneering at us in a sort of conceited London way. I felt superior too in drainpipes.

I could not dig up a setlist for Erics online, but I did find one for Bogarts in Birmingham five days later, and I imagine they were pretty similar: Anarchy, I Wanna Be Me, Seventeen. Satellite, Substitute, Liar, No Feelings (encore) No Fun, Pretty Vacant.

The next show was Notre Dame Hall, London, November 15 (with a one-song thing at the Beeb squeezed in between: Anarchy): Anarchy, I Wanna Be Me, Seventeen. Pretty Vacant, No Feelings, Don't Give Me No Lip Child, Watcha Gonna Do About It, Did You No Wrong, I'm Not Your Stepping Stone, Satellite, Problems, New York.

Leeds Poly, December 6, was the first date of the Anarchy Tour: Anarchy, I Wanna Be Me, Seventeen, I'm Not Your Stepping Stone, God Save the Queen (first time live), Substitute, No Feelings, Liar, Pretty Vacant, Problems (encore) Watcha Gonna Do About It, No Fun.

It was strange. Small crowd. Some pogoing. You looked silly pogoing in a feather cut. Most people in the middle of the room, holding back, fewer number at the front, a couple of foot from Johnny and co. They might have been in. drainpipes with a few ladies in leather.

I suspect that as many people went home that night bemused as enthused.

I do not care what Kevin thinks about the game. In fact, I already knew before the game started what he would think -- Moyes would be blameless... He always is.

What I do care about is that he feels entitled to berate other people's honest opinion on the game. The fact that he can attack people who had paid money he never pays, for booing.

I care about his false claims of unrelenting criticism of his idol when a quick scroll down the thread will demonstrate he is making it up.

I'm glad you found my "essay" entertaining. I just think it's a pity that you didn't have the wherewithal to understand it.

Did you have anything to say about football? Anything at all???

Same question. Any thoughts of your own about the game?

No???

I bet you never Paul (various) and I never jibbed in, which was unusual for me!

Probe, the birth of punk, the original Pistols///

"May you live in interesting times" indeed!

I vowed I’d never see Dylan, unless I won the lottery and invited him to my own little campfire, so for anyone who has watched him 96 times, in only thirty states, I salute you!