Our problem really comes down to the DNA of Everton FC

Martinez was not ran out of town for the wonderful attacking football for his team played in his first season. It was for the over-complicated, possession obsession he seemed to develop during his second one. His baffling interviews didn't help.

Show me someone who thinks Evertonians want to see their team play with fear and I will show you one who doesn’t go near a game...

Or somebody trying to excuse the cowardice Moyes regularly displays in his relentless pursuit of respectability.

The standards of McCarthy, Lukaku, Deulofeu, Barry, were unfortunately not maintained.

Niasse, Robles, Alcaraz, Funes Mori, McGeady, Tarashaj, Lennon, Besic, Kone, were all a poor set of players that were destined to see the team be less competitive than before he arrived.

One of the articles on ToffeeWeb had Martinez as the emperor with no clothes. Well he couldnt defend for shit, and his transfer record bar those 4 was ugly. Certainly those 9 would get thrashed most weeks.

While Moyes has admitted he was responsibe ALL signings, gets exonerated by his disciples who like to blame a "recruitment team" that hadnt been assembled yet.

Are there no lengths to which they wont go ?

170M and the guy who makes a point of saying he has final say on ALL signings has nothing to do with it.

Moyes has nowhere near that total in 12 years of trying.

I've changed to “abandonment of defending” and moved the off-topic posts to this new Mailbag thread.

I think Eric said his Samsung was an issue. I’m going to check out my iPhone….

Well, it seems to work okay with my iPhone, even though the Edit button sits on top of the text… not ideal.

I just hope they make the change before the end of the season so the new manager can asses this brilliant group of players who successive managers have made into relegation candidates. Also we want fast attacking football sprinkled with a bit of the old school of science.

Well there wasn't prior to 2002. We were known as the School of Science before that. Always played open attractive football.

What happened in 2002 to change our character???

All would be possibly okay but David would have to lose the con miedo approach.

If you thought Aaron Lennon wasn't competitive, then you were very hard to please. I wish he had been playing on Sunday alongside a few more players with his work rate and ability. I think there might have been a different result.

Don't you think he would have been an ever-present under Moyes?

That 72 points was built on the back of Moyes's team. Very good defensively.

Once Martinez broke that up, it went to pot.

Don't you understand anything, don't you realise we have been fighting relegation for years?

What did Joe Royle say again to the assembled media, after we beat Spurs!

Utter nonsense.

Martinez's signings of McCarthy, Barry and the brilliant Lukaku upfront made the difference, we were toothless upfront under Moyes.

How do you build an out-and-out attacking team, that scored more goals in a season than Moyes has ever achieved, on the back of defensive football?

In 6 weeks?

See you just picked out the good signings Martinez made. Well done.

Solid foundation, mate.

Moyes himself says he thought we had a better team than Liverpool -- let's not go on about the half-time team talk when we had Liverpool exactly were we wanted them -- and another chance was gone.

He says a lot of clubs had come in for him during his 11 years at Everton, but at the back of his mind, he always used to think he didn't want to outstay his welcome.

I live in Liverpool, but what's that got to do with it?

Anyway this is the last time I will mention Moyes till the end of season. Let's go and beat the Hammers on Saturday. COYBs

I'm guessing Tony thought you lived outside the city when you posted "I don't know anyone who wants Moyes out".

I live in the city. All of my Everton mates want him gone.

If we have the “one big gangly centre-forward” brought on this Saturday or any day for that matter, I’ll just give up. What is the point?

Does Moyes think he’s going to suddenly turn into a prolific goalscorer? I’d rather see one of the young lads from the U21s given a game... at least they’d put in an effort.

I was in town this morning and out of the six Evertonians, I spoke to, three of them told me they don’t like Moyes, and I hear the same thing from quite a lot of match going Evertonians.

I am very surprised to hear that someone who lives in Liverpool, never speaks to anyone who doesn’t want to keep Moyes, Mike, and this is why I asked you mate, because I hear it all the time.