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Moyes keeps tabs on Naismith situtation

26/06/2012 | Comments (17)
David Moyes is monitoring Steven Naismith's contract situation at Rangers before deciding whether or not to make an approach for the 25 year-old.

Naismith and teammate Steven Whitaker have both declared themselves free agents rather than agree to have their contracts transferred to the Rangers newco which is being established in the wake of the Scottish club's liquidation.

The Charles Green consortium that bought Rangers' assets say, however, that they will block the players' attempts to become free agents and have warned that potential suitors like Everton and West Bromwich Albion could face legal action to recoup damages if they signed them.

Naismith had a hugely productive partnership at Ibrox with Nikica Jelavic but is recovering from a second cruciate knee ligament injury in his relatively short career and that may give Moyes pause before paying any fee for the forward.

Original Source: Liverpool Echo

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Gareth Fieldstead
086   Posted 26/06/2012 at 22:07:07

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I can understand Moyes's reluctance to part with big money for a player that has had such horrendous injuries but, considering how him and Kenwright like to remind everyone how Everton do things with a bit of class, it would be nice to see Everton not take advantage of the Rangers crisis and actually agree a fee of sorts for the player; after all, if Moyes thinks he can do a job for us, is a few million really too much to ask?
James Stewart
087   Posted 26/06/2012 at 22:20:50

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Why pay for him if he is on a free though gareth? I don't think he would command that big a fee anyway. Certainly not over 2m.
Alan Humphreys
089   Posted 26/06/2012 at 22:26:02

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Maybe there's a compromise - after all didn't we let them off the final Michael Ball payments...
James Flynn
094   Posted 26/06/2012 at 22:49:40

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There wouldn't be a crisis but for the disgraceful behavior of the owners. They caused this situation. If this fellow's worth it and on a free, tough shit. How or why would it be "unclassy" of EFC if they signed him?
Jay Harris
116   Posted 27/06/2012 at 04:51:25

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Gareth,
Rangers is no more.

We would be dealing with "Newco" that aquired the assets of Rangers but not the debts nor the players contracts for a paltry 5 million.

Rangers owed other clubs significant amounts of money that "Newco" will never pay.

Class is a two way street.

Declan O'Shaughnessy
135   Posted 27/06/2012 at 09:18:26

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Gareth, I'm not sure Everton could legally pay for his services at all. As I understand it, Naismith is exercising his right not to transfer his contract to newco, therefore he is no longer an employee of newco. As such, he is a free agent. If Everton attempted to pay money to a third party for a free agent, they would be setting an unusual precedent, one akin to slavery or people trafficking.

Now, whether Naismith really is a free agent or not is another matter. Charles Green seems to adamant that the players can't refuse to the transfer of their contracts in this way. The rest of the world, including every employment lawyer that I've read so far, seems convinced that the players have a legal right to do this. Green's argument seems to boil down to "football is different". Which leads me to think his argument is screwed.

Philip Quilliam
143   Posted 27/06/2012 at 10:27:29

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Regardless of what Charles Green believes employees are not "assets" of companies. Regardless of what Charles Green believes employment law applies to footballers as much as it does to any other emloyee. Regardless of what Charles Green believes contracts signed by companies that no longer exist are cancelled.
He can threaten and bluster all he wants he won't change employment or company law.
He may have a moral argument that it is undignified for clubs to try to profit from his new companies predicament and there is no doubt that their fans don't care what the club is called or the legal status of contracts but if the players want to walk then where they end up is their decision. Just like anyone else changing jobs.
Jack Molloy
189   Posted 27/06/2012 at 14:54:46

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Since when was "Glasgow Rangers" and "class" used in the same sentence? They screwed us on Michael Ball - and screwed Michael Ball himself. Their former manager, Walter Smith was without question the worst manager in Everton's history. If we can go to Ibrox and pillage players we should. I hope Glasgow Rangers goes the way of that other great football institution, Accrington Stanley.
Dan McKie
194   Posted 27/06/2012 at 16:18:56

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It's a bit up in the air about him being free to sign for another club. Until a decision is made legally, signing him could mean future court cases and being forced to pay a fee we maybe wouldn't, or even couldn't in Everton's case, if it was found that Naismith is still contractually obligated to Rangers or whoever.
Steve Smith
242   Posted 27/06/2012 at 22:31:45

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Jack #189

"Their former manager, Walter Smith was without question the worst manager in Everton's history."

Close between him Gordon Lee and Mike Walker I reckon.

Gareth Fieldstead
263   Posted 27/06/2012 at 23:47:46

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Even according to Michael Ball there was a lot of mischief from both sides with that transfer mostly Everton selling a player that was going to have a long term injury problem. Thanks Dan that is my point, we could arrange something with Newco surely to avoid all that. By the way Steve a little harsh on Lee isn't it. Two top four finishes, playing great football with Latch, Thomas, Dobson, King, Pejic. Signed Sharp and brought the likes of Stephens, Richardson and Ratcliffe from the youth system. Three great cup runs and but for a certain Welsh referee we would have been in a cup final against a side that we had already beaten at OT 3 0 on our way to the League cup final. Most pundits at the time felt Lees biggest mistake was signing a good keeper rather than a great one.
Matt Traynor
266   Posted 28/06/2012 at 00:16:36

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Gareth #263, I see where you're coming from, however we owe no favours to Rangers, new or old co. Let the courts decide, and the "experts" have already called it, and therefore treat the players as any other Bosman. They will not be "free", they will command a signing on fee in recognition of the fact there's no transfer fee.

As frustrating as it is to Rangers fans, they are "merely customers" of an organisation gone bad, albeit very loyal customers with little alternative. Even though their income profile in the SPL is vastly different from what the EPL has become, it is still a business at the end of the day - a sports business, but still subject to the same laws as the likes of Farepak, Enron, Andersons et al that have had to die or reform due to the actions of their directors.

Steve Smith
273   Posted 28/06/2012 at 01:39:33

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Gareth,

Your memory is much better than mine in regards of Lee, although it was Bingham's team that got us to the League Cup Final wasn't it? I was fairly young at the time and Duncan McKenzie was my hero, so Lee was never a popular Manager in my eyes.
Jack Molloy
280   Posted 28/06/2012 at 04:25:50

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Steve Smith, Lee was not a popular manager, it's true, not even with the players, and I share your high regard for Duncan McKenzie. However, as far as managerial success on the field goes, Walter Smith made Gordon Lee look like Mario Zagallo and Mike Walker look like Helenio Herrera. Yes. That bad.
Kieran Fitzgerald
309   Posted 28/06/2012 at 11:41:24

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I think that there may be a lot of clubs keeping tabs on the Rangers' players. It would be interesting to see how much is going on behind the scenes between agents and interested parties. I would have thought that it would be very much on a tactful level but apparently Stoke have signed one of their players already.
Steve Smith
311   Posted 28/06/2012 at 12:11:22

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Jack#280
Do you remember them throwing out those miniature Bells whiskeys when he {Lee} won Manager of the month? they should do that now, one on every seat til Christmas, might help us get through the pain of our usual fucking awful first half of the season syndrome.
Thomas Windsor
447   Posted 29/06/2012 at 08:26:51

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To Steve Smith,

Everton's football under Gordon Lee was good attacking football. Latchford scored 30 goals and we qualified for Europe two seasons on the run and got to two FA Cup semi-finals plus a League Cup Final.

I agree over Walter Smith though

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