Moyes: Confident or Cautious about progressing?

I know he can't open his gob without putting his foot in it but he is funny... not £4 million a year funny like!

By the way, Mr Moyes, sir - Preston need a new manager. How would you feel about going back there?

He needs locking up.

"The team is tired, out of form and devoid of confidence. I have a squad of players here yet I will not consider using any of them outside of my 'special 13', despite regularly pointing out that there is no point in having a squad if they cant play.

I have heard a lot of talk about square pegs not fitting in round holes. As yet, this may be true, but I believe with persistence and an awful lot of force it may be possible to distort both the hole and the peg. Whatever the outcome, it is obviously going to be better than putting a nice young square peg into a square hole. That doesn't sound like a good idea to me or the guy on the other end of Mr Round's headset."

Our team cost ten times more than theirs and are paid ten times more so there are no wuckin furries.

You mentioned my mysterious offsider, did you mean that bloke who sits next to me in the dug out? I have no idea who he is or what he does. He never says much, offers no advice, doesn't appear at all interested and he is always whispering into a headphone, nobody knows who he is in contact with.

A bad defeat and some crap league results then it might be time to vent, with Moyes departure inevitable. However, with the first choice XI now back after a couple of games out, it's fair to expect performances to improve. Time will tell.

One thing is for certain reading the Bates / Barkley piece is every fan loves to be a critic (Leeds in this instance, but I suspect BR, Mancini, et al are getting loads).

For god's sake they've only knocked us out once don't you get paranoid as well.

Sorry I shouldn't have mentioned the word positive, as its not something the majority of posters on here either like or understand. They much prefer to slag off anything to do with the manager or the club, and whisper it these profess to be supporters.

I could be wrong but I could not see where in the article Moyes actually says he is "confident his players won’t get caught cold at Oldham Athletic – and remains convinced Everton can qualify for the Champions League"???

Why do the local papers always insist on putting out this false positive spin?

C'mon guys, let's have a positive thoughts day. I'll start it with, "We will defeat Oldham!" There ya go. I feel better already.

Or is he blowing smoke up your arse?

Interview with Lewis Holtby with a picture of him stood in front of Everton scarf... If only, eh?

Last 6 Premier League games, P6, W2, D3, L1 That's 9 points from a possible 18. Extrapolating that form to our final 12 games, would give us another 18 points. Those 12 games include: RS, Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs away, and Siteh at home.

Is 60 points going to be enough to get us into the top 4? Mr. Moyes seems to think so, despite his diabolical team selection which has been directly responsible for losing us at least 4 points in the last 4 games.

I find it perplexing (but not surprising) that I'm reading it on an Everton fan's blog.

Personally, I found Moyes's comments cogent and hitting the right spot to galvanise the team for the final quarter of the season.

I believe that as supporters we should adopt the same position.

COYB

"We are in your headset and know your Every move, Mr.Round"

"You cannot escape us".....

It's utterly pathetic.

It really is.

Moyes is the best manager in the Prem operating on a lower budget.

Ooh why didn't we sign Lewis Holtby? - because he would break our wage structure!!!

Why are we so negative? - because our squad is miniscule thanks to the BK

Plus Moyes ALWAYS undersells us. He wants to keep people on their toes and he is humble by nature. Imagine how dumb we and he would look if Oldham knocked us out following him saying otherwise.

The only issues I have had with DM over his reign is the loyalty to Pip and this ridiculous inability to see Johnny cannot cope at the moment.

I think this is exactly the way Moyes thinks.

The quote that sums Moyes up for me is: "[O]ur record has been that we haven't been losing games and keep picking up points, and if we continue to do that then we'll be in with a chance."

What on earth does that actually mean? "We'll be in with a chance?" No, no, no, David. If you get the points, you are in. Not in with a chance, you are in. It is simple. Aim to win every game. Every. Single. Game. If you get as many points as you possibly can, you finish where you finish. If that is fourth, you aren't "in with a chance", you are in. If you only have enough points for fifth, you are not "in with a chance".

Can anyone name a skint Premier Legue club that has consistently finished in the top 8?

If we replace Moyes but continue to have no money, how likely are we to finish in the top four when we are competing against Liverpool, Chelsea, Man Utd, Arsenal, Man City and Tottenham?

Our problems are financial ones, and while fans have every right to criticise the manager, some of the comments on this board make me laugh. You would think we were fighting for survival at the bottom of the league rather than fighting for 4th place.

If Moyes is such a joke, does that mean every manager currently outside of the top four is also a joke?

The clubs above us have a clear advantage in terms of their financial clout. We consistently punch above our weight and the manager deserves credit for this.

So as a team member you're feeling like any confidence you had has been taken away, and surprise, surprise you have a self fulfilling prophecy that comes true....

Moyes has got to come out with positive comments and get some belief into the team so that (hopefully) on Saturday night we can all sit here and think banana skin avoided there! And go back to ripping the piss out of our RS friends...

If fans are content to sit there for another 10 years, and say what a good manager he is, keeping us in the Premier League on such a low budget without a trophy to show for it, then that is their prerogative. Frankly I've had enough. As I've said it on previous posts, Moyes will be remembered as a survivor, and not as a winner. He's happy to keep us in the Premier League and receive the accolades, when he has it in him to take Everton to that next step, and make himself a great manager. This is what's so frustrating about the man.

Moyes is suffering on here because of the fickle nature of fans who have unrealistic expectations, always think the grass is greener (Villa, Bolton, dare I say the RS – the list could go on and on), view life through one jaundiced eye, believe that hindsight equals insight etc.

With what has been at his disposal Moyes has done a fantastic job – he might cap it all yet this season – who can say he won't and, in any event, isn't that what we all want.... (an alien reading this website for the first time may be forgiven for arriving at a different conclusion)

Moyes has never won anything but he's done far more than just keeping us in the Prem.

Max, tell me mate how you see Moyes making this step change from working wonders keeping us up near the top to actually winning silverware too? Would that be just by being more positive? Magic wand? Let's assume it is by unleashing our team's massive potential that DM is obviously stiffling and running at the top clubs for 90 minutes at their own grounds. Do you not possibly see an eenie, weenie little chance that they could stuff sacksfulls of goals past us?

We all want to do better but to do that now we need a lot more money than we have now to strengthen the team or a miracle such as ManU had when they had 5 international standard players come through there Acaddemy in close succession. When you think about that look out of the window. their may be a line of pink pigs flying past.

Moyes has done himself no favours with his dourness and hubris over the years he's never been someone to warm to and now he's embroiled in arsing round over a contract he looks none too clever - a bit big for his boots actually.

I'm probably his biggest fan... but he doesn't half do my head in. As stated above, he is such an unlikable human being. Not a fucking ounce of humour in him – and seems to be giving off an air of arrogance recently. I don't want a joker in charge, just someone who has a personality and relatively engaging with the fans. He almost treats us with contempt.

I do dread him leaving us but at the same time I long for it. It's probably a good job I'm not in charge.

I just hope that if we did get someone else it would be a hungry young manager with a long term plan. I think we can all agree that stability is important.

Yes but it is purely on the roll of the dice. The odds on either winning are very small as they are on EFC doing it. If the odds are 20:1 against us then the fact that we haven't won in 19 years doesn't mean that we are doing anything wrong and won't eventually match the odds.

Expecting Everton to win a trophy in todays game is irrational and unreasonable. Would you prefer that we put everything in winning the League or FA cup and get relegated? Trophy at any cost?

I'll settle for 4-1 tomorrow in the cup!

A touch of realism please.

Having said that, I expect other clubs' forums are the same: full of vitriol and ignorance.

Oh well, he may be off at the end of the season. So, update your CV's now. You've as much chace as anyone else who has never managed a football team.