Moyes counting on 'second wind'

Another home fixture against a team in the Prem also struggling to stay in the Premier League. A semi-final possibly against Blackburn Sounds good. The only team that can stop us is EVERTON!

Come on, Blue Boys... lift us out of this gloom that's hanging over the place; 4th or even 5th spot seems too far ahead of us now, so let's make a mighty effort in the FA Cup! Get behind the team Tuesday night and lift the roof off. I will be up early, watching the game in Oz with my fellow blues in the Sports Bar, Sydney.

"I'll look at it in the summer" ring any bells Davey - shot your bolt lad getting grumpy won't wash - one mis-judgement too many.

Jesus.

Ok...erm...as long as we're counting on wishful-thinking ethereal ideas, rather than anything realistic, I think I'll count on the mythical winged-creature 'Evertonius the Awesome' (half man, half 60 goal-a-season striker..horse type thing).

Seriously, if he wants to 'count' on something, count on us keeping hold of the ball and not needlessly giving the fucking thing away every five seconds.

I say season, more like a four game run without a win. Awww boo hoo, people don't like to lose? Awwwwwww, here's a cookie.

He's turned around supposedly poor half seasons before, most seasons in fact. You telling me he can't get us winning again?

Oh ye of zero faith!

Jagielka's aimless 60-yard Scud missiles (or 'Icaru' ploy) will play into Oldham's hands. Keep it on the deck.

Barry, we'll be luck to be the "best of the rest" next season, that one will belong to the evil presence across the park. We have a sqaud mainly of OAPs and a few terrified kids given no chance to play.

David, have you any idea what happened to the first wind? And if we do get past Oldham (whick we should do comfortably)and then Wigan who I believe to be up for this in a big way (no real home advantage, that's a 50/50 in my opinion), will your second wind be strong enough to power past one of the big boys who'll be waiting for us. We kind of have an inferiority complex when playing these teams.

Not to worry, if this second wind should go the way of the first, there might be a third that will see us through to 7th, 8th, 9th ......

How big will the turnaround be? Enough to catch Spurs or enough to avoid being overtaken by Liverpool and West Brom?

"Hah! A lot of you are going to look mighty silly when the Moyesiah turns the season round"

When?

Try IF!

And even IF it happened, why would I look silly - for pointing out HIS team give the ball (therefore results) away far too often and currently look shite?

Your hopeful bluster continues - "I say season, more like a four game run without a win. Awww boo hoo, people don't like to lose? Awwwwwww, here's a cookie"

FOUR game run?

Well maybe...but check our next few fixtures and give me your points total.

My guess, based on present form - fuck all!

(and this is Britain by the way, it's biscuits nor cookies...duuuude)

Your based-on-nothing-but-wishful-thinking tripe continues - "He's turned around supposedly poor half seasons before, most seasons in fact. You telling me he can't get us winning again?"

'Poor half-seasons'?

What the fuck are they...quarter seasons?

Forget the sky-speak, there are just good performances, average performances and shite performances.

You finish with "Oh ye of zero faith!"

Guess what Nick, it's not about faith on a forum, it's about giving INFORMED opinions.

Seriously, look at what you're posting and think about what a forum would look like if everyone ignored what was ACTUALLY happening, ignored results and form, ignored tactics and team selection and simply kept posting 'We WILL do it....we WILL do it...we WILL do it...."

A few months ago I was posting that I was happy with our performances because they were good, now they're shite and I'm posting that I'm not happy - that's kind of how it works.

4th?

If they're serious, you can't fault their loyalty.

Although there's a touch of the Fuhrer's bunker about them, believe everything you're told until it's too late!

The general message appears to be - Keep the ball and play with passion, two things we have failed to do for quite some time now. Indeed, the only time Fellaini shows passion is when someone kicks him. They are all too nicey nice. We know Moyes comes down heavily on players who are penalised for dissent but it's about time we protested as vehemently as our opponents. Quiet acceptance is not the way of Real Madrid, Barcelona, Man United, Juventus or Bayern Munich so why should we be so different. It just doesn't make sense. The passion is being stifled.

Well said - Biscuits Not Cookies!!!

It wouldn't suprise me if this Nick Entwistle was really BK on the forums trying to change opinions!!!

He might slip one post - "I'll never sack him!!!!"

The Moyesiah will save us!!!!!!!!!

"go figure" := "work it out"
"do the math" := perform the arithmetic (maths); apply a suitable algorithm; calculate
In the pub: "can I get a..." := "could /can I have a..."
In response to "how are you?" the answer is "fine, thank you", not "good"

Oh and never in Britain ask a lady holding a baby's bottle if she's scalded the nipple

Maybe he's confused!

What an astounding piece of absolute nonsense. How can anyone respect this man as a manger — least of all of EVERTON Football Club — when he comes out with utter shit like that?

I'm not totally sure what you are on about either but 'Do the Math' and 'Go figure' – as far as I know about it – originate the other side of the pond.

If the same thing had occurred during Moyes's very first game in charge, there would have been uniform support of his complaint, and Lee Mason would have copped it instead.

Yet, due ENTIRELY to the MOB mentality, he's been mocked for posing a perfectly reasonable question. Of course every single thing he says gets ripped by an openly-hostile crowd, who skew his position, even when he's justified.

He is not justified as it states at every ground " Their will be a MINIMUM of........."
Not." Their will be a definite minutes played.

(Or if Suarez had done a 'Hulse,' in the Derby).

No-one on here knows what is going to happen this season, football is so unpredictable (apart from any game against Villa will finish a draw). If we get to the end of the season in 8th behind Liverpool without European qualification and we went out to one of Oldham or Wigan in the Cup then fair enough, vent all the fury that you want (everyone seems to do it anyway after the first draw of every season). But what good is being ridiculously negative now going to do for the team? It will achieve nothing.

Let's get behind the boys for the rest of the season and see what happens. It would be great to go tonight and find a great atmosphere that the players could sense before kick off rather than this negative air of expectancy that seems to accompany every home game now until we score 2 goals.

We've had pretty good football for 12 months, but we seem to be in a bit of a slump now; let's try and get the players out of it by sticking together rather than booing then off at half time, booing players before they even come on, moaning at every single missed chance like the miss has just relegated us. I know that eventually this team should be paying us back and that they don't regularly enough but sometimes that is unfortunately the life of a football fan. Some fans spend their entire lives supporting teams destined never to win a single thing.

You will not find even a single one of his peers who would share that view, even privately.

And again, no mention of the players' ambivalent form either.

He has decided that he will wait until the end of the season.
But, his waiting game began just when exactly ?
A year ago?
Two?

Or at the moment he realised that he can sit on his hands because avoiding relegation constitutes success for being the third highest paid premiership manager.

Go.
Get rid now.

Mr Moores would NEVER have tolerated such dithering, and like him or loathe him, Kenwright HAS been EVERTONIANLY loyal to Moyes.

Go.
Go now.

You've been here a very long time, won bugger all and nobody else wants you.

He gets results by getting his team playing at a very fast pace, grinding down the opposition. If the opposition can match us in doing this then we have got problems. Doing this against lower league opposition causes its own problems. It's hard to get the players up for playing this way against teams that on paper at least are inferior. They relax and try to play at a more leisurely pace and as a result often come unstuck. This way of playing the game can only take you so far as Everton's record under Moyes proves. If he leaves and goes to another club, one that has money to spend, a team that expects to win trophys, then it will be very interesting to see how Moyes gets on. Can he change his ways when his circumstances at another club are different? The money clubs have left him alone up to now and haven't been willing to to take a chance but that maybe about to change.

I have a feeling Arsenal could be his new club. Wenger is under mounting pressure, mainly due to the fact that he hasn't won anything for some time. I think that he may well go at the end of the season. Arsenal can't quite complete with City, Chelsea and Man Utd and are very careful with the money that they generate. They may see Moyes as the man for them, someone who has a record in bringing in bargain buy players. The problem would be getting shut of a manager for loosing his winning ways and replacing him with a manager who spent 11 years at a club and won nothing. Yes, I hear you say but has Moyes had the money to win something? Has Michael Laudrup.