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Besic's Bosnia lose to Cyprus

09/09/2014  Comments (22)  jump
Muhamed Besic played the full match and hit the woodwork late on but couldn't prevent Bosnia-Herzegovina from going down 2-1 to Cyprus in their Euro2016 qualifier this evening.

Meanwhile, Luke Garbutt played 80+ minutes for England U21s in their 3-0 win over Moldova and Gethin Jones was an unused substitute in Lithuania as Wales U21s earned a draw.  


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Tommy Davis
1 Posted 09/09/2014 at 22:44:24
You have to feel for Mo right now, seems like things aren't going his way?! As with nearly all pro players, he needs that confidence, no matter what his ability is & I don't see him starting in any of the Prem games (just yet), so his ego is taking a bit of a pasting, with no 'help' coming his way..........just yet!
Derek Knox
2 Posted 09/09/2014 at 22:51:34
I watched the Bosnia game and I think most of the team had an off-night, but after a great start, I thought it was going to be easy for them.

In all fairness to Cyprus, they did not let the game get beyond them, and just plugged away, which yielded dividends in their two goals.

Mo had two decent shots at goal, one went over and the other thunderbolt hit the bar, it was one of those nights for him but he did show some good touches, but not as often as I would have liked to see.

As Tommy (#1) said, he needs confidence and games and maybe will get a start for us soon, there is no doubting he is a rising star.

Colin Williams
3 Posted 09/09/2014 at 22:58:05
Tommy, "cream always rises to the top". Besic will soon be a regular in the team, unless there is a protocol within our team? (I hope not.) The lad has so much to offer our club, NOW!
Ciaran Duff
4 Posted 10/09/2014 at 00:34:44
Apparently he locks himself away for 2 days if he loses - So, he may not make it to the WBA game!
Mike Keating
5 Posted 10/09/2014 at 09:47:42
I hope he locked himself up in Walton after that howler against Chelsea.
Jim Bennings
6 Posted 10/09/2014 at 10:52:37
Colin

I really want Mo Besic to be a massive player and leader for Everton FC but I wouldn't put too much pressure on him just yet with possibly over the top statements such as "the cream always rises to the top". It's of my opinion that we are perhaps heaping too much expectation on a relatively young untried, at this level at least player.

Yes, he seems eager and looks like he wants to get stuck in but in this day and age in the Premier League the way referees are, he's unlikely to get away with "getting stuck in" too much.

What he needs is to use the likes of Barry as a tutor – a guy who's seen it all at this level; learn from him, know what he can and can't do, and use what he is best at to influence games.

He won't be a regular in the Premier League before Christmas in my opinion unless we have injury issues. He will and should play in the Europa League and Capital One Cup, however, to get him blooded into how we play and give us a more thorough look at what he can offer us.

A very good player in the making, but hey, let's be patient and a bit realistic.

Tony J Williams
7 Posted 10/09/2014 at 11:58:39
That's the way I would view it Jim.

Learn from Barry and play the Euro games and the Cups.

Hopefully he will come on quickly and might end up pushing Barry/McCarthy for a starting place sooner rather than later.

His age gives him time though.

Jim Bennings
8 Posted 10/09/2014 at 12:06:48
I'm glad I'm not the only one to see it from a realistic view Tony.

It just seems since the early pre-season every man and his dog has been laying these huge expectations on Besic, with not really a great deal of foundation for all the rave – most of us had seen him play one game against Argentina where he was excellent against Lionel Messi.

Since then, it's all "Oh he has the skill to dictate" or "Play Besic in Barkley's role as he could be creative."

Give the lad a chance to adjust to life here on and off the pitch. He has never really played in a hard competitive league yet, the English league is unforgiving when you are not ready for it. Blood him in slow and let him learn.

I just hope all the hype merchants that have been out all summer don't get on his back if he starts and has three bad games. You should have heard the stick Lukaku took against Chelsea.

Be patient. He is not Xavi or Iniesta. He is a lad new to the league and needs the support of the fans and guidance from his team-mates.

Tony J Williams
9 Posted 10/09/2014 at 12:21:18
Jim, the problem we, as fans, have is that we see a player do something good once and then base our whole judgement of said player on that. His first touch in a Blue shirt was a silky piece of skill and now he has to live up to that hype.

it was the same way with Fernandes, that silky skill against Le Arse and the goal against Man Utd meant we expected that all the time. Sadly he didn't sign and the second loan period was quite forgettable.

We are a fickle bunch who expect too much from players, we're doing it now with Besic and I would say Barkley.

Colin Williams
10 Posted 10/09/2014 at 14:51:02
Jim, we all have our personal opinions about all Blues who play for our great club. Just because my assessment of Besic’s footballing talent differs from you. All this crap about "over the top" statements – my comments are, what I believe the lad will give us NOW! Not in three months.

All players have different skills which can effect different type of games. Besic leads from the front with desire, energy and a fair bit of ability, and his all round game will drive us forward. The boy is a natural leader on the pitch; that’s what I believe we need now.

Players will follow this type of leadership which can help maximize our potential while playing to create momentum and confidence.

Steve Carse
11 Posted 10/09/2014 at 15:50:23
I'm with Colin. The lad is 21, not 17. He jumped straight into a different type of football when he played in the World Cup. Why should he be likely to struggle if pushed straight into the PL? Can he be much less impressive than Barry or McCarthy so far this season?

I suspect one of these two will be rested for the Wolfsburg game and Besic will be in. If he shines (and I'm sure he will) then it'll give RM a headache as to whether he stays in.

Andrew Ellams
12 Posted 10/09/2014 at 16:12:51
Steve, I would expect to see Gibson before Besic.
Tommy Campbell
13 Posted 10/09/2014 at 21:28:38
I'm not sure where this perception has come from that he is going to be some kind of world beater? Have I missed something? He had a steady World Cup and didn't stand out any more than say Enner Valencia or Jara of Chile.
Phil Walling
14 Posted 10/09/2014 at 22:16:29
Not according to our manager. He was 'phenomenal' in Brazil. Did things no other could do.
Darryl Ritchie
15 Posted 10/09/2014 at 23:53:29
Give it a rest, Phil.
Harold Matthews
16 Posted 11/09/2014 at 01:02:47
I watched him carefully after the Chelsea error. There's no doubt about it. This lad is a special player.
Jay Rollinson
17 Posted 11/09/2014 at 01:52:40
Strange comment. No doubt about Besic being great on the base of 5 minutes so far? What did he do in his very short time on the pitch to convince he is special? He made a stupid error and put the game out of reach through his recklessness. That's all. With his first touch he showed he's still got a great deal to learn. What more did he do in the last few minutes following that mistake to prove his class is beyond question?
Kristian Boyce
18 Posted 11/09/2014 at 02:18:19
Did he play in defence or in midfield for the Bosnia game?
David Ellis
19 Posted 11/09/2014 at 02:44:01
Let's see him play a full Premier League game (or three or four) before we make a judgement, hey lads? Lots of players look good in a World Cup and don't do it week-in & week-out in a foreign league and nowadays there is no league with greater strength in depth than the PL.

I saw in the press today the new signing for Hull City saying he turned down a move to Benfica in order to play for Hull... astonshing, but the pull for him was not Hull City but the fact that he could play in the Premier League.

I can't ever imagine Eusebio leaving Benfica for Hull!

Anto Byrne
20 Posted 11/09/2014 at 02:56:57
Bryan Oviedo had to wait and wait and wait, obviously working behind the scenes with coaching staff, and he can now consider himself an invaluable member of the first team ready to come in and do a very good job.

Mo Besic will have to be patient and earn his place in the first team; meanwhile, he will do his apprenticeship on the fringes. When all the hype has evaporated and the World Cup is a distant yawn, then we will probably see the emergence of Mo Besic.

Harold Matthews
21 Posted 11/09/2014 at 17:52:04
Jay. It's not what he did. It's how he did it. You'll see.
Brent Stephens
22 Posted 11/09/2014 at 18:00:26
I'm with Harold #21. We'll see!

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