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Everton duo unlikely to face Germany

by | 08/10/2014  Comments (17)  jump
O'Neill resigned to being without McCarthy and Coleman
Martin O'Neill has admitted that there is very little chance of either James McCarthy or Seamus Coleman being fit enough to make the Republic of Ireland's Euro2016 qualifier against Germany next week.

Both players are nursing soft tissue injuries and were already ruled out of their country's match against Gibraltar, although O'Neill's explanation of McCarthy's problem is at odds with that provided last week by Roberto Martinez.

The Everton boss had suggested that the midfielder was left out of the squad that travelled to Krasnodar because of tightness in his quad but O'Neill says that, like Coleman, McCarthy sustained a hamstring strain.

"No, no, it's a hamstring injury," O'Neill is quoted as saying. "I think he got a scan on it. Whatever grades they are this day, it's definitely not (fatigue)."

"With Seamus, it's not the hamstring he's done before, it's the other side, he's been feeling very, very tight. You know what Seamus is like: he'd want to play, he'd want to play for both club and country. But if he's not right."

"I'm not obviously in control of club affairs so I don't know how things are dealt with there but I'm sure very professionally. I'm hoping that Seamus and James will be available, if not for us now, then for Scotland. But I just don't know."

"I haven't spoken to Roberto Martinez, but I had a word with Seamus - Seamus doesn't feel fantastic at the moment - and James ."

"There was talk about James being available, or trying to be available, for last Sunday's game against Manchester United, but I think that was a long shot.

"At the moment, you would say that there is no chance of them being available," he concluded.

Both players are presumably staying at Finch Farm to continue their recoveries in the hope that they might be available for the visit of Aston Villa on Saturday week.

On the flip side of the injury equation, Darron Gibson is now fully fit, raring to go for his country and hoping to start both qualifiers after missing almost a year with a knee injury.

Being out for so long, it was going to take me a while to get back in the swing of things and get match fit, Gibson told The start of the season was just about getting minutes, but now I'm ready to go and hopefully I can show the manager that in training this week.

"Coming back and having to fight for my place has been hard. I knew I would have to fight for it but I didn't realise it would be so mentally tough but I'm going to keep pushing — keep going until I'm starting."

Quotes sourced from Irish Herald

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Phil Walling
1 Posted 08/10/2014 at 18:46:13
ThatÂ’s the third diagnosis weÂ’ve seen of SeamusÂ’s injury. DidnÂ’t it start with a headache?
Paul Hewitt
2 Posted 08/10/2014 at 19:14:10
As long as theyÂ’re fit next week, I donÂ’t care.
Mike Oates
3 Posted 08/10/2014 at 19:35:26
The enigma that Martinez is, last year, and, to some extent, the beginning of this, it was xyz is out for many many weeks/months. Yet, this year his injury news is a tad optimistic, Oviedo and Kone nearly ready, really. Coleman just taking precautions with concussion; McCarthy, slight muscle fatigue.....

We lost Steve Tahijan ( American conditioning coach) in the summer. Was he pushed? Did he jump because of Martinez and are we missing him big time?

Conn Prosser
4 Posted 08/10/2014 at 20:41:25
I understand that we were fourth in the injury league last year, this season we have run away with the title – no-one can catch us. Summat's going on. So many hamstrings and some even being reported as otherwise.

Is it the physio team? The pitches? The training methods? The amount of sideways or backward passes? Or just the shite pre-season?

Either way, it needs serious attention.

Minik Hansen
5 Posted 09/10/2014 at 00:02:28
I think Arsenal is leading the injury season yet again. Come on, let's all wish for a great recovery, the international break only helps the club.
Chris Gould
6 Posted 09/10/2014 at 07:44:09
So many players going down with hamstring injuries. Now Seamus has done the other one! And Roberto has seen fit to lie about McCarthy's! Does anyone recall if the Wigan players had similar problems with Martinez in charge?

Can the awful pre-season explain these injuries? The players clearly started the season unfit. I'm assuming they've now been pushed too hard to get their fitness levels to where they should've been.

Martinez is really trying my patience.

Alan Williams
7 Posted 09/10/2014 at 08:36:02
Why are these players in the Irish squad, they missed the last game? They should have been withdrawn to stay home for treatment.
Les Fitzpatrick
8 Posted 09/10/2014 at 09:24:57
As many on here know, I have contacts at Finch Farm. Most of our excessive pulls, strains and hammy issues have occurred on the Finch Farm training pitches, NOT on the field of play during games.

A comparison of the amount and type of injury sustained at the Old Bellefield training complex and at Finch Farm is currently underway. ItÂ’s quite hush hush at the moment, so do not expect any club statement; however, if we see replacement training pitches being prepared and laid in the next few months, we will know why...

Steve Guy
9 Posted 09/10/2014 at 12:38:50
Personally I will go with our Manager's assessment of injuries .....especially as O'Neill says he hasn't spoken to RM. I'm sure the latter is delighted to be contradicted by O'Neill: who comes across as not really having a clue and is just blagging off the back of a couple of phone calls with players.

What reason does RM have to lie ? What does he gain ? So unless you are a conspiracy geek, there's nothing to see here apart from the second part of the piece about Gibbo being fit and raring to go. I notice no one picked up on the positive !

Pete Edwards
10 Posted 09/10/2014 at 13:00:37
Chris @6,

IÂ’d prefer to believe Martinez over OÂ’Neil any day of the week!

Nick Entwistle
11 Posted 09/10/2014 at 13:24:10
I have no desire to listen to the bog standard media drill managers have to go through. If a player is fit, then he gets to play, what the manager says doesn't change his return date one bit.

If Martinez's pre-season is to blame then surely he would know after all these years as manager.

But selling Duffy to Blackburn though was wrong without replacement.

Minik Hansen
12 Posted 09/10/2014 at 14:55:24
Again, this shows that McCarthy and Seamus are doing better, being able to be involved with the Ireland team. As long as they're back as they we're or even better, will be super. A few back fully fit and we are back on track.
Nick Entwistle
13 Posted 09/10/2014 at 15:33:42
Les, I presumed most injuries would happen in training, but is Finch Farm more astro based than Bellefield? What surfaces are they training on?

Les Fitzpatrick
14 Posted 09/10/2014 at 15:45:24

Finch Farm is in Halewood, just outside the village. As many of the local gardeners (me included) are aware, the local soil is quite dry and free draining. My own lawn dries out like concrete in any spell of weather where no natural rain falls for a few days or so. Finch Farm was formerly arable farming land known for its quick drainage.

Current thinking at Finch Farm is that the playing surface is drying out at the sub-soil level, leading to a hard surface just beneath the contact area of stud penetration. Although the pitches are constantly watered, the problems persist, hence the study of injuries of Bellefield vs Finch Farm.

There are two all-weather pitches indoors which use an American form of Astro turf; however, too much use of this surface causes other problems, as Oldham Athletic found out about 10 years ago.

Obviously the manager knows his stuff on sports injuries and it was he who initiated the current analysis/study. As I said in my other post.... Do NOT expect the club to make this public — it’s best not to put your errors into the public domain.

Nick Entwistle
15 Posted 09/10/2014 at 21:04:39
Les, you're the new Monty Don. Thank you for your answer.
Gavin Ramejkis
16 Posted 10/10/2014 at 07:47:23
Longest concussion in history or Black Bill dollar signs?
Les Fitzpatrick
17 Posted 10/10/2014 at 16:22:47
See Howard KendallÂ’s interview/comments in Friday Echo talking about football pitches, injuries, footwear, etc.

I think he must have got a sniff of what is going on with Finch Farm training pitches and the Bellefield vs Finch Farm injuries analysis.

Remember, you heard it on ToffeeWeb first, LOL

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